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[Q] Google Fit and Fitbit Sync

I know Fitbit doesn't currently sync directly with Google Fit, but does anyone know an indirect way of syncing them? I love my Fitbit Surge, but Fitbit's app and website leave a lot to be desired. Has anyone had success syncing Fitbit to another app and then to Google Fit, or perhaps a couple app/websites in between them?

lightmastertech said:
I know Fitbit doesn't currently sync directly with Google Fit, but does anyone know an indirect way of syncing them? I love my Fitbit Surge, but Fitbit's app and website leave a lot to be desired. Has anyone had success syncing Fitbit to another app and then to Google Fit, or perhaps a couple app/websites in between them?
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Been looking into this myself for the past day (since I bought a Moto 360) and am trying to find a way to connect the two services since it is clear they do not connect directly. Will come back and post my findings when I'm done.
[edit] So far the best option I can find is using Runkeeper for Weight Tracking. Nothing for steps found yet.

I've gotten my steps to sync from Fitbit to Runtastic, but nothing else will. And I can't seem to figure out how to get anything to sync to Google Fit.

Found this on github:
https://github.com/tantalor/fitsync
A bit manual process but better than nothing

kuroSAVVAS said:
Found this on github:
https://github.com/tantalor/fitsync
A bit manual process but better than nothing
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Actually for me isn't working.
I obtained the Token from Fitbit but i'm unable to obtain the data from Google Fit APIs.
I'm still searching for another method, does anyone know something else?
Thanks

Google Fit data in fitbit
Here's what I've got and how they are working together:
Withings wireless scale
Withings wireless blood pressure monitor
Moto 360 watch
Fitbit One
Withings app
Fitbit app
MyFitnessPal app
The MyFitnessPal app is a key hub because it can share data with fitbit and Withings accounts (and is awesome for food tracking). Scale readings automatically show up in MFP, asvdo fitbit steps from the fitbit devices.
Google Fit will sync automatically with the Withings app and Withings also takes all data from MyFitnessPal and the withings scale and blood pressure monitor. My Moto 360 feeds Fit steps to Withings.
So it's all interconnected and I use the Withings dashboard most often which shows Fit steps, weight, BP and MFP calorie data. I can launch MFP directly from Withings and use it's dashboards if I like.
In MFap you'll see fitbit steps and withings scale and BP data.
At this point I've stopped wearing the fitbitbexcept as a sleep monitor. I wear the 360 for all other step\fit data and use the withings dashboard primarily.
I started choosing withings devices because of the more flexible integration with partner portals like MFP, runkeeper, etc.
For what it's worth. Oh...and I couldn't integrate Samsung S-Health with anything so I ditched Samsung devices altogether

Thank you!
nocurbs537 said:
Here's what I've got and how they are working together:
Withings wireless scale
Withings wireless blood pressure monitor
Moto 360 watch
Fitbit One
Withings app
Fitbit app
MyFitnessPal app
The MyFitnessPal app is a key hub because it can share data with fitbit and Withings accounts (and is awesome for food tracking). Scale readings automatically show up in MFP, asvdo fitbit steps from the fitbit devices.
Google Fit will sync automatically with the Withings app and Withings also takes all data from MyFitnessPal and the withings scale and blood pressure monitor. My Moto 360 feeds Fit steps to Withings.
So it's all interconnected and I use the Withings dashboard most often which shows Fit steps, weight, BP and MFP calorie data. I can launch MFP directly from Withings and use it's dashboards if I like.
In MFap you'll see fitbit steps and withings scale and BP data.
At this point I've stopped wearing the fitbitbexcept as a sleep monitor. I wear the 360 for all other step\fit data and use the withings dashboard primarily.
I started choosing withings devices because of the more flexible integration with partner portals like MFP, runkeeper, etc.
For what it's worth. Oh...and I couldn't integrate Samsung S-Health with anything so I ditched Samsung devices altogether
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I think Withings may have been the missing link. I just needed to get steps from Google Fit into myfittnesspal or fitbit that would then flow into the others. It would be nice if there was a central app that would collect this all and sync it evenly across.

3rd party syncing solution
I realize I am late to the game here, but in researching this same issue I came across this thread first and then I found this potential solution fitnesssyncer.com. It appears to sync a number of data sources. I cannot yet confirm syncing data from Google Fit into Fitbit, but it does work in the opposite direction. I should be able to get my hands on a device to test from Fit to Fitbit in the next couple of days. I hope this helps someone else.... have a good one.
brent

Try this : http://googlefeedbit.habite.la/ but you have to do it manually ...

I am back with a quick report. The fitnesssyncer option wasn't as successful as I had hope it would be. I don't know if it is a time zone issue, but some days I would start out the morning with around 3k steps and a time stamp of when I was still in bed. I started trying the googlefeedbit option mentioned in the above post and I have had much more success. I have switched to using it exclusively. I hope this helps, have a good day.
brent

Now that Google Fit support has been added to MyFitnessPal, I'm curious how syncing them with that as the hub will work now!

xd1936 said:
Now that Google Fit support has been added to MyFitnessPal, I'm curious how syncing them with that as the hub will work now!
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Any updates on the MyFitnessPal integration? I just set it up, but I can't tell if anything is syncing. Doesn't seem like it.
The googlefeedbit page no longer seems to be working.
Also, I think I know what the time zone issue was with fitnesssyncer.com, but when I tried to sync my Google Fit steps to Fitbit, I don't see any results in the Fitbit app or website.
Any and all updates appreciated as I would love to not be wearing two devices all the time.

How do I get the moto 360 app? Can't find it

okzygen said:
Any updates on the MyFitnessPal integration? I just set it up, but I can't tell if anything is syncing. Doesn't seem like it.
The googlefeedbit page no longer seems to be working.
Also, I think I know what the time zone issue was with fitnesssyncer.com, but when I tried to sync my Google Fit steps to Fitbit, I don't see any results in the Fitbit app or website.
Any and all updates appreciated as I would love to not be wearing two devices all the time.
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I haven't used them in some time, but from my limited experience a few months ago, I was getting double the steps in Google Fit. I disconnected Google Fit from MyFitnessPal, since Google Fit was adding together and combining all of the steps that it detected with the accelerometer with all of the Fitbit steps synced over through MyFitnessPal. It could be better now, who knows.

Try this
https://www.fitnesssyncer.com/frequently-asked-questions
Rik

Fit2fitbit.com might be your solution
Those of you are looking for Fitbit to Fit sync, I can't help you. But if you are looking for Fit to Fitbit, I made an app that does that because I was having the same problem. Check it out at fit2fitbit.com!

blbaker said:
Those of you are looking for Fitbit to Fit sync, I can't help you. But if you are looking for Fit to Fitbit, I made an app that does that because I was having the same problem. Check it out at fit2fitbit.com!
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blbaker, just tried your app and it login doesn't work for Google... Error

el_chiefo said:
blbaker, just tried your app and it login doesn't work for Google... Error
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Hey bud. Got that fixed. Got hit with that classic cease and desist for trademark infringement so had to rebrand/buy a new domain and Google didn't like that. Should be good to go now!

lightmastertech said:
I know Fitbit doesn't currently sync directly with Google Fit, but does anyone know an indirect way of syncing them? I love my Fitbit Surge, but Fitbit's app and website leave a lot to be desired. Has anyone had success syncing Fitbit to another app and then to Google Fit, or perhaps a couple app/websites in between them?
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A bit manual but this syncs up all Fitbit data to Google Fit very precisely.
https://github.com/praveendath92/fitbit-googlefit
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rikwebb said:
Try this
https://www.fitnesssyncer.com/frequently-asked-questions
Rik
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It's not very accurate. All steps are aligned to 00:00! I finally decided to write my own tool to do a precise and complete sync.
https://github.com/praveendath92/fitbit-googlefit/
Works great for me. Do try!

praveendath92 said:
A bit manual but this syncs up all Fitbit data to Google Fit very precisely.
https://github.com/praveendath92/fitbit-googlefit
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It's not very accurate. All steps are aligned to 00:00! I finally decided to write my own tool to do a precise and complete sync.
https://github.com/praveendath92/fitbit-googlefit/
Works great for me. Do try!
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Does this sync the Weight information too?
I have a Fitbit Aria wireless scale and would love to get my weight data points into Google Fit.

google fit and huawei fitness app

i'm having problems with inconsistant data from both apps. Google fit is able to pull in data from my sleep app etc but the steps counter is way off. I like the huawei app due to the pulling the heart rate data to show lows and highs- whereas the google app doesnt? the huawei app also doesnt pull in the sleep data from sleep with android. what is everyone else doing- disabling one or the other? thoughts please

Not sure if this helps... But I was having problems with getting the Huawei Health app to recognize my phone... I had to install the Huawei Wear app on my phone first then have it sync to my watch... Then the Huawei Health app started to sync...
Long story short... Wondering if you need to install the Huawei Wear app on your phone as well to get things to sync properly...
Hope that helps
EZ

Sync issue solved
ezfreeze said:
Not sure if this helps... But I was having problems with getting the Huawei Health app to recognize my phone... I had to install the Huawei Wear app on my phone first then have it sync to my watch... Then the Huawei Health app started to sync...
Long story short... Wondering if you need to install the Huawei Wear app on your phone as well to get things to sync properly...
Hope that helps
EZ
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Your tip solved my fitness data sync issue between Huawei watch 2 and Health App. Thanks!

Is it possible to stopay Google fit

peter7 said:
Is it possible to stopay Google fit
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You can disable the app in the settings on the watch.

ezfreeze said:
Not sure if this helps... But I was having problems with getting the Huawei Health app to recognize my phone... I had to install the Huawei Wear app on my phone first then have it sync to my watch... Then the Huawei Health app started to sync...
Long story short... Wondering if you need to install the Huawei Wear app on your phone as well to get things to sync properly...
Hope that helps
EZ
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How did you manage to pair Huawei Wear app with your watch? Did you have to unpair it from Android Wear first? No matter what I do, I could not successfully pair my HW2 sport with the huawei wear app, whether or not I have it paired with Android Wear...

ezfreeze said:
Not sure if this helps... But I was having problems with getting the Huawei Health app to recognize my phone... I had to install the Huawei Wear app on my phone first then have it sync to my watch... Then the Huawei Health app started to sync...
Long story short... Wondering if you need to install the Huawei Wear app on your phone as well to get things to sync properly...
Hope that helps
EZ
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Do the data to Google Fit synchronize to you on a regular basis or only at certain times?

I haven't watched it that closely, but it syncs on a regular basis... Atleast once a day...
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Do the data to Google Fit synchronize to you on a regular basis or only at certain times?
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I did not have to unpair it... I did have some issues initially... I ended up removing the Huawei Wear app and reinstalling it and it worked after that...
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How did you manage to pair Huawei Wear app with your watch? Did you have to unpair it from Android Wear first? No matter what I do, I could not successfully pair my HW2 sport with the huawei wear app, whether or not I have it paired with Android Wear...
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does the watch work/sync with google fit?

Akshat2100 said:
does the watch work/sync with google fit?
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It does however I have issues that it seems that sometimes it's not Google Fit doing the tracking and it's pulling the data from Huawei Health, which in turn causes issues with trying to get it to sync with Nokia Health as that only includes data that Google Fit tracked itself, not what it also imported.

And why is:
- My Google Fit app on watch is showing 826 steps
- My Huawei Fit app on watch is showing 792 steps
- My Google Fit app on phone is showing 1112 steps
- My Huawei Fit app on phone is showing 745 steps
This is so confusing
Edit: I even have a different result between huawei wear app and huawei health app on my phone. OMG

rizki_Alkaf said:
And why is:
- My Google Fit app on watch is showing 826 steps
- My Huawei Fit app on watch is showing 792 steps
- My Google Fit app on phone is showing 1112 steps
- My Huawei Fit app on phone is showing 745 steps
This is so confusing
Edit: I even have a different result between huawei wear app and huawei health app on my phone. OMG
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I'm seeing similar;
Watch Daily Tracking: 5265
Phone Google Fit: 5295
Watch Google Fit: 5353
Phone Huawei Health: 5362
It sure would be nice if Huawei had documentation detailing their software. I'm inclined to stick with the Huawei fitness apps if for no other reason than they capture more data; fingers crossed it's at least somewhat accurate.

Can you please join this thread and send a bug report for this issue? Thanks guys! https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/77606997

Whats the trick to getting sleep data into Fit from the Health app? Everything syncs but sleep data for me.

You know its kind of depends on the amount of time you had you watch on your wrist or your phone in your pocket, also the apps measure this seperately and we know none of them are very acurate to show the exact number of steps so having a difference of say 100 steps would be ok
I have also noticed that google fit sometimes gets stuck on last day's results! Thats the worst part actually...its a real shame that huawei only updates the health app on phone and not on the watch!

the latest updates to GF does not accept data from Huawei Health or a lot of other apps, on contacting Huawei their answer was that end-users should speak to Google about it.
At the moment the only thing the HH is good for is the sleep recording as the figures for the other activities never match up, the data can't be easily moved to another device

Google Fit

Has anyone noticed if their Huawei Health has stopped linking with GF and supplying data even though it's connected
Not sure if due to recent changes in GF or HH.
Regards
M Morley
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walkerx said:
Has anyone noticed if their Huawei Health has stopped linking with GF and supplying data even though it's connected
Not sure if due to recent changes in GF or HH.
Regards
M Morley
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i've never been able to view heart rate data on GF.

I have previously but with the recent updates to Huawei Health and Google Fit no data is linked anymore - to get data into GF I now have to use Fit for activity tracking.

I have the same problem. Just a couple of weeks ago, Huawei Health was able to share my steps data with Google Fit. Then Google Fit updated and it's no longer getting that data. From what I can see on Google Play, HH hasn't been updated since Aug 4, 2018. So, looks like Google changed something that Huawei will have to account for.
Until then, I'm going to try reverting Google fit using APK Mirror.

dueydotnet said:
I have the same problem. Just a couple of weeks ago, Huawei Health was able to share my steps data with Google Fit. Then Google Fit updated and it's no longer getting that data. From what I can see on Google Play, HH hasn't been updated since Aug 4, 2018. So, looks like Google changed something that Huawei will have to account for.
Until then, I'm going to try reverting Google fit using APK Mirror.
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Huawei won't do anything - their stance is that we contact google ourselves
I can inform you that you can use both applications when connecting the watch, although Huawei Health is recommended as it offers more features.
As for the Google Fit application, since it extracts information from our application (and not vice-versa), you will need to find out from Google if they fully support the Huawei Health or the Huawei Watch in order for their app to work properly.
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i just noticed that after the recent Google Fit update, I had to open the app on my watch. in doing so, i went through a series of prompts, and eventually enabled the heart rate monitor. now, Google Fit on my phone shows my heart rate data (but only since enabling it on the phone). i know that this does not appear to sync with HH, but it does give the data you could be seeking.
hope this helps.

I get the heart rate through Google Fit as well, but only through the GF side previously you also got it from Huawei Health, my issue is that the other activity data in Huawei Health is no longer synced to GF and instead to get activities showing properly you have to use the GF activity and not HH one

walkerx said:
I get the heart rate through Google Fit as well, but only through the GF side previously you also got it from Huawei Health, my issue is that the other activity data in Huawei Health is no longer synced to GF and instead to get activities showing properly you have to use the GF activity and not HH one
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I presume you are referring to the apps on your phone, not just the data in the watch?
so maybe you mean that you use the HH app in the watch to track your activity, and GF is not showing that?
from my experience, GF is tracking my activity regardless of what app I use to track (I use Map My Run). so I don't think it is a sync issue with HH to GF, but more of GF syncing from your watch to your phone. in my opinion, the two apps are redundant, so I'll probably wind up deleting Huawei's Health and Wear apps from my phone.

Both, HH has to store its data in your phone app before it gets synced to GF - this no longer happens after the update. GF will track my activity but not as it should (ie if I started an activity via HH this would end up being logged in GF stating it came from HH, but this no longer happens, you just get basic tracking. If I start the activity using GF then this gets transferred to GF properly so is in my app on phone and on webpage.
Previously I only needed to do everything through HH and this would sync across to GF, but this is no longer the case.
I used to use MapMyWalk but that doesn't use the GPS on watch and they had that major data breach, so wary about using Under Armour products now

I noticed today my data wasn't synched properly for some time, looks like since GF introduced this new system.
Fixed it by going into HH and disconnected from GF then reconnected.
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Are u fixed the issue downloading and old APK from APK Mirror?
dueydotnet said:
I have the same problem. Just a couple of weeks ago, Huawei Health was able to share my steps data with Google Fit. Then Google Fit updated and it's no longer getting that data. From what I can see on Google Play, HH hasn't been updated since Aug 4, 2018. So, looks like Google changed something that Huawei will have to account for.
Until then, I'm going to try reverting Google fit using APK Mirror.
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crich80 said:
Are u fixed the issue downloading and old APK from APK Mirror?
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I'm sorry for the late reply. I don't think it fixed the problem.
I uninstalled Huawei Health over a year ago and haven't used it, or the watch, since. I can't remember what things I tried, but, I'm guessing nothing worked and I stopped using it.

Question Google Fit sync with Samsung Health (mod)?

With seeing all the development here that de-Samsungize the Watch 4 (like the Samsung Health App mod for BP and ECG sensor for anyone), I became really confident on picking up one soon.
If I understand correctly, the modded samsung health apps will allow me to use every sensor of the watch with my Pixel, without any limitations. But can it sync the data to Google Fit, or is Google Fit supported by the watch as well? I could live without BP sync, but I would like to have my health data synced to Google Fit, just as it is now.

kergefarkas said:
With seeing all the development here that de-Samsungize the Watch 4 (like the Samsung Health App mod for BP and ECG sensor for anyone), I became really confident on picking up one soon.
If I understand correctly, the modded samsung health apps will allow me to use every sensor of the watch with my Pixel, without any limitations. But can it sync the data to Google Fit, or is Google Fit supported by the watch as well? I could live without BP sync, but I would like to have my health data synced to Google Fit, just as it is now.
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Not everything can sync yet according to Dante (the dev making the modded health apps) but he's working on it. With that said, the sync he's referring to I believe is with Samsung health, but for syncing with Google fit I found a solution to that years ago with an app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.appyhapps.healthsync

spart0n said:
Not everything can sync yet according to Dante (the dev making the modded health apps) but he's working on it. With that said, the sync he's referring to I believe is with Samsung health, but for syncing with Google fit I found a solution to that years ago with an app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.appyhapps.healthsync
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I know not everything is syncing at the moment, and I think it's one of the greatest things that after many years of not needing mods & hacks to use my device the way I want to, when the need arose, I could find a solution here in mere minutes. It's sad that Samsung is scamming users into their ecosystem, but that's probably the price we have to pay to get a Wear OS 3 watch this year.
The app you linked looks to do exactly what I was looking for, I'll still have to use the modded Samsung Health, but at least the data can be stored in my GFit profile easily. This is what I was looking for, apart from using Google Pay, which is also confirmed.

spart0n said:
Not everything can sync yet according to Dante (the dev making the modded health apps) but he's working on it. With that said, the sync he's referring to I believe is with Samsung health, but for syncing with Google fit I found a solution to that years ago with an app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.appyhapps.healthsync
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Healthsync works well, been using it for years now.

kergefarkas said:
I know not everything is syncing at the moment, and I think it's one of the greatest things that after many years of not needing mods & hacks to use my device the way I want to, when the need arose, I could find a solution here in mere minutes. It's sad that Samsung is scamming users into their ecosystem, but that's probably the price we have to pay to get a Wear OS 3 watch this year.
The app you linked looks to do exactly what I was looking for, I'll still have to use the modded Samsung Health, but at least the data can be stored in my GFit profile easily. This is what I was looking for, apart from using Google Pay, which is also confirmed.
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You don't actually need modded Samsung Health but the modded Samsung Health Monitor. Two different apps for some reason. The latter is only for BP and ECG. The former is where all the other health data goes.
I've set up the sync with that same app from Samsung Health to Google Fit and it works wonderfully. Even the GPS tracking data is included when it syncs runs.

eldis said:
You don't actually need modded Samsung Health but the modded Samsung Health Monitor. Two different apps for some reason. The latter is only for BP and ECG. The former is where all the other health data goes.
I've set up the sync with that same app from Samsung Health to Google Fit and it works wonderfully. Even the GPS tracking data is included when it syncs runs.
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So basically there is a Samsung Health Monitor (SHM), that is only used to gather sensor data and pass it to Samsung Health, so it's basically just an intermittent interface provided as a separate app?
And Google Fit will get the data from Samsung Health, which gets it from the (modded) Samsung Health Monitor?

kergefarkas said:
So basically there is a Samsung Health Monitor (SHM), that is only used to gather sensor data and pass it to Samsung Health, so it's basically just an intermittent interface provided as a separate app?
And Google Fit will get the data from Samsung Health, which gets it from the (modded) Samsung Health Monitor?
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Not exactly. SHM is only for blood pressure and ECG. The rest (steps, hr, runs, etc.) is handled directly by Samsung Health.
Regular SHM would share the blood pressure measurements to Samsung Health but modded version doesn't.

eldis said:
Not exactly. SHM is only for blood pressure and ECG. The rest (steps, hr, runs, etc.) is handled directly by Samsung Health.
Regular SHM would share the blood pressure measurements to Samsung Health but modded version doesn't.
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So let me see if I got this straight: the modded SHM, which I need for both the phone and the watch, is only for BP and ECG, and that data won't sync (as of yet) with SH on my phone. All the other data will correctly sync with SH because they come from a non modded app.
The app health sync can sync data from SH to google fit.
Is that correct?

Armadevz said:
So let me see if I got this straight: the modded SHM, which I need for both the phone and the watch, is only for BP and ECG, and that data won't sync (as of yet) with SH on my phone. All the other data will correctly sync with SH because they come from a non modded app.
The app health sync can sync data from SH to google fit.
Is that correct?
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That's correct

Question Google Fit available for Galaxy Watch 4!

Hi everybody,
Today I noticed that Google Fit is available for Galaxy Watch 4!
If you go to the store on your watch you will find Google Fit. I installed it and it works on the watch!
Do you also have it and if so: what do you prefer Samsung Health or Google Fit?

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Hi everybody,
Today I noticed that Google Fit is available for Galaxy Watch 4!
If you go to the store on your watch you will find Google Fit. I installed it and it works on the watch!
Do you also have it and if so: what do you prefer Samsung Health or Google Fit?
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Google fit for Watch 4 has been available for many months .
I had Google Fit ( Watch 4 ) installed , as well as Google Fit for Phone .
I used a 3rd party app , Health Sync app , to sync my data (Samsung health ,Google Fit and Polar .)
Health Sync app indicated that i had to uninstall ,Google fit on watch, as it was causing errors / duplication of my daily data ,
So my setup is on Watch 4 is Samsung Health ,when i go for my daily jog i also wear a Polar M Vantage M400 watch with chest strap .
I also found that in my daily exercises , my Hart Rate readings ( the Samsung Watch 4 , as well as all my previous Samsung watches ) to be , not as reliable / consistent with its readings ,
If i compare my Polar watch ,with chest strap ( 99 % accuracy , hart rate readings) to all my previous Samsung Watches and my Watch 4 ,i found that when you really start to " exercise" ( increasing your pace /sprinting etc , the Watch 4 was slow to adjust / way off ,with its Hart Rate readings sometimes ,by at least 20 bpm .
Above reason is why i sync all my data with 3rd party app to avoid duplication
good luck