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Hi, just wondering if there is anything that can be done about this? I have a Samsung S7 and when I turn the screen off with background play enabled there is a 1 or 2 second pause before the audio continues. Oddly enough I've noticed this is something that afflicts other players with background play abilities as well. The only player I have that doesn't have this pause is podcast addict (it can play videos too). Anyway, it's not the biggest deal in the world but I would classify it under slightly annoying, especially when I feel the need to turn the screen on and off frequently for whatever reason.
Come to think of it... I wonder if podcast addict is buffering and that's why it doesn't run into this problem? Could be. Anyway... any tips, hints, suggestions? If this is an easy fix that would be awesome.
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Hi, just wondering if there is anything that can be done about this? I have a Samsung S7 and when I turn the screen off with background play enabled there is a 1 or 2 second pause before the audio continues. Oddly enough I've noticed this is something that afflicts other players with background play abilities as well. The only player I have that doesn't have this pause is podcast addict (it can play videos too). Anyway, it's not the biggest deal in the world but I would classify it under slightly annoying, especially when I feel the need to turn the screen on and off frequently for whatever reason.
Come to think of it... I wonder if podcast addict is buffering and that's why it doesn't run into this problem? Could be. Anyway... any tips, hints, suggestions? If this is an easy fix that would be awesome.
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No, It's not like that. Infact the pause is intentionally done by the developer to avoid issues on many device while detaching the video surface. It was not there in 1.7.x. but, introduced later on latest 1.8.x as a fix.
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ktsamy said:
No, It's not like that. Infact the pause is intentionally done by the developer to avoid issues on many device while detaching the video surface. It was not there in 1.7.x. but, introduced later on latest 1.8.x as a fix.
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Thanks for the info. From your answer it sounds like havoc ensues when turning the screen off on some devices. I wonder if the developer would be willing to create an "advanced" setting or something that could control this behavior?
Same issue here. I rely on this feature to help me go to sleep. The starting and stopping is very annoying.
SpongeWorthy76 said:
Same issue here. I rely on this feature to help me go to sleep. The starting and stopping is very annoying.
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Thanks for the info. From your answer it sounds like havoc ensues when turning the screen off on some devices. I wonder if the developer would be willing to create an "advanced" setting or something that could control this behavior?
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We are making an option to make it optional. It will be available on next update.
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We are making an option to make it optional. It will be available on next update.
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The problem still hasn't been fixed.
As many people have know already, apps is still shutting down in aggressive manner even if they have been white listed. This is because there is a war between Vivos Imanager that try to shutdown everything to save power and androids own power management.
I will tell you how to stop the conflict between Imanager and Powermanagement, the solution is very easy but most people that complain have not noticed this detail.
This deserves its own thread cause this really solve all strange problems I have had with vivo nex (chromecast problems also solved now)
This is mainly important for push notification apps, video apps, and apps with chromecast ability.
We need to understand that Vivo have put their enchantments ONTOP of android, but android still is higher in hiracy but vivos apps trying to shut down stuff.
You must white list stuff both with the vivo settings and also android settings.
short repetition how to get push notifications work , you can either do it one by one in app info of each app or thru I manager and and permission manger)
Use whatever method you most comfortable with permission manger gives a good overview of app permissions.
Permission Push notification apps need is in app info screen
app Info/ Permission/single permissions: enable all in the device management section, autostart is the most important toggle. other options can depend on the app and its functionality but add permission to all in the top in the device management category.
App info/ notifications: enable the toggle as you desire decide if you want to see it on lockscreen, I can recomend to not enable "display notifcation details on locked screen" this is bad for privacy since people can read your messages if you dont guard your phone.
How to end the conflict between Imanager and Android Power mangement
As I said the solution is very easy but VERY important, since Vivos own software have lower hiracy in the system they Imanager and Android in conflict, this is why even though you have white listed everything in settings apps is still shutting down.
What you need to to is to go to control panel or task switcher and you will see a lock, if you doing it from the control panel which I recommend swipe down on the app you want to let stay in memory and not shut down out a lock on it. Now apps will not shut down, this is required for push notifications to work as intended also this must be enabled for all apps you want to chromecast from otherwise you will have to reload the app you casting from, this was a big problem with youtube before I was going back to the app and it was reloaded. This detail is very important and this is simply very bad design by vivo, since you basically have TWO power mangement systems in one system that dont work with each other. Now when I have added lock on all push notification and chromecast apps all seem to work just as good as any other phone. Keep Google app with lock on and home app on too if you want to make sure chromecast work, if you cast from browser then put lock on it too. Its easy to put a temporary lock on apps in control panel so you dont have to have it memory permanently keep in mind, also, you can shut down apps in task switcher...lock is only active as long as the app exist in task switcher.
Do you have problem with google sync services you can add apps in Imanager/autostart/startup( at the top)
Startup permission means (allow startup by other applications) When looking in the start up records screen it seem it is mostly the google sync services that want to start/awake other apps, if you have any specific problem that you think is related to google sync service enable, personally I have not enabled it cause I think the battery will take a big hit cause I see the android sync serivces want to wake up apps a lot. If Android sync service is for some how very important for you then enable it, but personally I think that the syncing is restricted is one of the reason why Vivo Nex have better battery then most.
Yes, maybe you could just remove com.vivo.pem in adb shell.
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Yes, maybe you could just remove com.vivo.pem in adb shell.
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What is exactly com.vivo.pem do? and are you sure this is the best solution?
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Yes, maybe you could just remove com.vivo.pem in adb shell.
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Ok I’ve just removed it via adb.
I will report my feedback of how app perform on notifications aspect or any other conclusion(positive or negative) regarding remove com.vivo.pem service.
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What is exactly com.vivo.pem do? and are you sure this is the best solution?
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It’s Vivo battery management.
All other methods I tried didn’t work to me even first post.
I’m not getting notifications from time to time from various app.
Those stupid restrictions by Vivo software is hilarious.
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What is exactly com.vivo.pem do? and are you sure this is the best solution?
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It is vivo's battery mangement app which is more aggressive.
I have no negative impact after uninstalling it.
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It is vivo's battery mangement app which is more aggressive.
I have no negative impact after uninstalling it.
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what about the battery usage.. Are we still getting 6hrs SOT?
Ok gays the news so far is very positive.
So far I’m getting on time notifications from various app using like messenger,WhatsApp,Gmail,outlook for the first time since late August(before that didn’t have those issue)
Seems Vivo software becomes even more aggressively latest update and that results of notifications not working all time properly.
I’m continue monitoring it and report again after 1-2 days to be absolutely sure that this was the key answer for notifications issues most of as having especially after 3 disaster update got from earlier September til today.
Let me know that after uninstalling com.vivo.pem you should restart your phone to take effect 100%
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Nice ,it take me one month to figure it out . At lease this method can let homescreen widget updating in background .
One more tip: If you want app to stay in background ,you should disable "battery optimization" which is a hidden menu in funtouchos. You can create a shortcut at Nova launcher.
Many cudos my friend.:good:
All day now from the morning all notifications working brilliantly from various app as I said.
I think we got the golden egg
Yes I know the battery optimization in battery settings.
I’ve already set from beginning my favorite app to exception of battery optimization.
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Thanks!! Gave up with phone and went back so my S8 plus. Now this phone is useable again. An unlocked bootloader would be amazing but at least funtouch isn't as awful as before. Just removed com.vivo.pem and so far it's been great!!
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Thanks!! Gave up with phone and went back so my S8 plus. Now this phone is useable again. An unlocked bootloader would be amazing but at least funtouch isn't as awful as before. Just removed com.vivo.pem and so far it's been great!!
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How do you remove it?
Flyers88 said:
How do you remove it?
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through adb shell pm uninstall
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through adb shell pm uninstall
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And so far so good? No issues? Notifications work ok?
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And so far so good? No issues? Notifications work ok?
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Yes that’s the ultimate solution.
2 days now everything works like a charm and getting notifications on time without any delay.
Remove everyone Vivo battery management witch is so stupidly and so badly aggressively by killing background activity from important app our daily usage.
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No issues at all. Except when I updated funtouch it locked me out of my Vivo public account and now it won't let me back in. Back to S8 until thIS nonsense with Vivo is worked out. Greatest hardware literally worSt software ever!!
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No issues at all. Except when I updated funtouch it locked me out of my Vivo public account and now it won't let me back in. Back to S8 until thIS nonsense with Vivo is worked out. Greatest hardware literally worSt software ever!!
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Me too had issue with Vivo public account after latest update but talked to Vivo support and resolve the issue after couple of hours.
Someone has changed the password(badly wherever did that)and Vivo needed to recover the Public account.
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paatha13 said:
Someone has changed the password(badly wherever did that)and Vivo needed to recover the Public account.
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they did it again, someone change the password and i can´t log into vivo public account anymore. too bad this happens very often, the people are dump and want the account for them self idiots!
smisi said:
they did it again, someone change the password and i can´t log into vivo public account anymore. too bad this happens very often, the people are dump and wont the account for them self idiots!
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Unfortunately some people are idiots.
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they did it again, someone change the password and i can´t log into vivo public account anymore. too bad this happens very often, the people are dump and want the account for them self idiots!
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So what's the status now? Are you still having issues? Did you remove the battery management files and had issues after your last update? Or were the issues strictly related to the changing of the password on the Vivo public account?
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No issues at all. Except when I updated funtouch it locked me out of my Vivo public account and now it won't let me back in. Back to S8 until thIS nonsense with Vivo is worked out. Greatest hardware literally worSt software ever!!
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Your issues were strictly due to the changing of the password, correct? Not the removal of the files?
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So what's the status now? Are you still having issues? Did you remove the battery management files and had issues after your last update? Or were the issues strictly related to the changing of the password on the Vivo public account?
Your issues were strictly due to the changing of the password, correct? Not the removal of the files?
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Not having issues with Vivo account.
Few minutes ego tried it and re enter the known password and accepted normally.
Vivo account has nothing to do with Vivo battery management services.
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Hello, i'm not sure if this the correct section where to ask, and in the case i apologize. Anyway i've a huawei p9 lite where background apps does noit work properly. I tried every single possible change in the phone setting, but it did not solve anything. Since those apps are really important to me i'm considering buying a new smartphone.. So i am asking wich brand of smartphones does not have this type of problems? thanks
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Hello, i'm not sure if this the correct section where to ask, and in the case i apologize. Anyway i've a huawei p9 lite where background apps does noit work properly. I tried every single possible change in the phone setting, but it did not solve anything. Since those apps are really important to me i'm considering buying a new smartphone.. So i am asking wich brand of smartphones does not have this type of problems? thanks
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You can disable battery management for selected apps to stay active in the background.
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You can disable battery management for selected apps to stay active in the background.
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Hi, i already did this, as i said i tried every single possible change of the phone settings, followed tutorial on internet and so... but it's probably a bug of EMUI 5.0, so i'm going to change phone.
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Hello, i'm not sure if this the correct section where to ask, and in the case i apologize. Anyway i've a huawei p9 lite where background apps does noit work properly. I tried every single possible change in the phone setting, but it did not solve anything. Since those apps are really important to me i'm considering buying a new smartphone.. So i am asking wich brand of smartphones does not have this type of problems? thanks
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I'm a bit confused, you mention on the title your phone doesn't kill background apps, "doesn't" so it keeps them alive, running.
Then your posts describes your background apps not working properly, sorry sounds kinda confusing to me. Do you want to keep them alive? or kill the apps so your phone saves memory, battery and resources and thus your currently running app has access to all the power?
Check battery settings.
Many Huawei models allow you to specify background apps (based on energy consumption).
Developer options > kill activities, it eliminates activities as soon as the user leaves them.
Limit of background processes (also on developer options) lets you specify how many running processes you want to allow.
Also, many phones have a quick access option (you can call it via diff ways) my Huaway uses the square shape (on some phones it's the "home button") anyway you can press it and a list of running apps will show, you can kill them all there.
Another options to kill them if that's what you want is using the Huawey phone optimizer or phone/device manager, it lets you "optimize" your phone, free some space and also choose some energy plan from ULTRA (dumb phone mode), to smart (default) and also full mode increasing cpu speed.
Good luck.
I noticed that something has been using too much cpu, because sometimes i'm using an app and it suddenly minimizes, but it doesn't close completely, it happens on videos and stuff, and it's kinda annoying, so i wanna know if i can see which apps are using how much cpu to solve my problem, any ideas?
Indirectly with a battery tracking that shows system apk usage.
Google doesn't want us to see the truth.
Many times it's a Google system apk doing it too.
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Indirectly with a battery tracking that shows system apk usage.
Google doesn't want us to see the truth.
Many times it's a Google system apk doing it too.
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So, there isn't a way to see it exactly? I mean, i guess it can be done with root, but i am non-root, and i wouldn't root my device just for something that i will use one time
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So, there isn't a way to see it exactly? I mean, i guess it can be done with root, but i am non-root, and i wouldn't root my device just for something that i will use one time
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Nope. Not rooted either.
After having countless great tools available with XPx64 and W7, Android is like a barren desert.
Troubleshooting a newer Android is now like playing wackamole.
Accubattery has a useful discharge current overlay feature... works with Pie not sure about Q.
When streaming vids on the browser higher usage spikes are normal. On all my apps this uses the most battery. All my browsers use about the same amount of cpu cycles/power when viewing vids.
You need something like a Task Manager on Windows.
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You need something like a Task Manager on Windows.
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Yes, but since i haven't found one, i doubt it's possible
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I noticed that something has been using too much cpu, because sometimes i'm using an app and it suddenly minimizes, but it doesn't close completely, it happens on videos and stuff, and it's kinda annoying, so i wanna know if i can see which apps are using how much cpu to solve my problem, any ideas?
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Gsam battery monitor app also tracks app usage
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Yes, but since i haven't found one, i doubt it's possible
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No such thing unless you use abd to enable the required permissions.
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No such thing unless you use abd to enable the required permissions.
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Sorry, i forgot, adb is by pc conection, isn't it?
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Sorry, i forgot, adb is by pc conection, isn't it?
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Yes. Never used it but probably should to be able to access the advanced features in some of the apps. DevChek is one.
Karma Firewall uses almost no battery, it's a VNP freeware app that works great.
Let's you see what's hogging the bandwidth/battery and lock them down as needed. Best firewall I've ever used; it's always running now.
Having multiple phones allows me to observe their battery life under different scenarios.
This is what I have seen:
If you have no sim installed, you get best battery life.
If you have only one sim installed, you get around 20% more battery life than when you have two SIMs installed. This is even if you're using WiFi throughout.
While this is largely dependent on your mobile network provider and the network reception where you live, work, etc., this is something that would affect most users.
I'm seeing roughly 45 minutes to an hour of extra SOT on average after I moved my 2nd sim to another phone on my S22U.
What about screen off time?
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What about screen off time?
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I have given the details here.
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I have given the details here.
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Specifically how much battery % per hour when sleeping with phone/internet service active?
My N10+ gets:
AOD always on, about 1%@hr (good battery)
Tap on AOD, >.5%@hr (good battery)
Right now with a degraded battery of about 3200 mAh I'm getting about 9 hr SOT. With a new battery it's over 12 hours.
Heavily optimized stock still running on Pie.
Not optimized those figures are halved and it's a hot running battery hog out of the box. All Samsung's should be hand optimized.
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Specifically how much battery % per hour when sleeping with phone/internet service active?
My N10+ gets:
AOD always on, about 1%@hr (good battery)
Tap on AOD, >.5%@hr (good battery)
Right now with a degraded battery of about 3200 mAh I'm getting about 9 hr SOT. With a new battery it's over 12 hours.
Heavily optimized stock still running on Pie.
Not optimized those figures are halved and it's a hot running battery hog out of the box. All Samsung's should be hand optimized.
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9 hours SOT is just unbelievably good. I don't know how many apps you have installed and what apps you use and when. I see that of I'm only watching videos at night (low brightness) on YouTube, the battery life is excellent during that period. But that isn't typical usage which involves browsing, chatting, video calls, a bit of camera, etc.
My phone is turning 1 year tomorrow, and here are the battery stats for now:
Everything ON: 1.5% per hour (AOD OFF)
Everything OFF: 05.% per hour (Power Saving ON)
By everything, I mean WiFi, Mobile Data, Bluetooth and Location.
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You'll notice from my stats there that WiFi consumes about 0.5% per hour on standby, and the SIM card consumes another 0.5% per hour on standby, even though no mobile data is being used.
I have a very unusual setup too. VPN running on the Main Profile, Work Profile and the Secure Folder. I'm sure that consumes additional battery.
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9 hours SOT is just unbelievably good. I don't know how many apps you have installed and what apps you use and when. I see that of I'm only watching videos at night (low brightness) on YouTube, the battery life is excellent during that period. But that isn't typical usage which involves browsing, chatting, video calls, a bit of camera, etc.
My phone is turning 1 year tomorrow, and here are the battery stats for now:
Everything ON: 1.5% per hour (AOD OFF)
Everything OFF: 05.% per hour (Power Saving ON)
By everything, I mean WiFi, Mobile Data, Bluetooth and Location.
More details here.
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One of the reasons I love this model.
With a fresh battery browsing Brave uses about 6%@hr. Online vids about 9%, offline vids about 6%. Not optimized this phone was a mess, a night and day difference.
I always have wifi disabled as it's a security risk and not needed. Bluetooth standby on or off doesn't impact the battery much for me.
Power is always set on optimized.
All global power management is off.
Brightness, manual generally between 30-40%
AOD always tap on.
Location always off unless needed.
No bixby ever, NFC payment disabled
Google play Services temporarily disabled unless needed, Playstore disabled, Google backup Transport disabled, OTA updates disabled, all feedback disabled.
About 70 packages are always disabled with Package Disabler, mostly bloatware.
Your screen off usage suggests something(s) is running in the background.
Cloud apps are prime offenders.
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I have a very unusual setup too. VPN running on the Main Profile, Work Profile and the Secure Folder. I'm sure that consumes additional battery.
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I'm using Karma Firewall* (VNP based) which uses almost nothing and NextDNS to lock it down.
*only fully functional on Pie or lower
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Not optimized this phone was a mess, a night and day difference.
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Paying a subscription to some unknown company and giving them access to my device is something I'm not comfortable with. I would rather charge my phone twice everyday.
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I always have wifi disabled as it's a security risk and not needed.
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Can you elaborate this in detail?
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Google play Services temporarily disabled unless needed, Playstore disabled, Google backup Transport disabled,
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This is something I can't do. I'm heavily invested in the Google Ecosystem.
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Your screen off usage suggests something(s) is running in the background.
Cloud apps are prime offenders.
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I have plenty of accounts on my device (mail, cloud, etc.) and over 500 apps. At one point, I had crossed 1k apps.
These WILL consume battery, irrespective of whether they are in deep sleep or not.
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I'm using Karma Firewall* (VNP based) which uses almost nothing and NextDNS to lock it down.
*only fully functional on Pie or lower
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Karma doesn't work reliably on Android 11+ as you pointed out.
Would be worse if you have data turned on both SIMs.
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Paying a subscription to some unknown company and giving them access to my device is something I'm not comfortable with. I would rather charge my phone twice everyday.
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I firewall block it, it runs fine. If you don't use something like this or adb edits then there a lot of resources being squandered. This not only impacts SOT but performance.
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Can you elaborate this in detail?
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I'm running Pie, wifi is a known weak point. I have no need for it anyway. My unlimited data plan is cheap and grandfathered with excellent signal.
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This is something I can't do. I'm heavily invested in the Google Ecosystem.
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Ouch. Gmail and occasionally Gmaps are the only ones I use aside from system apps but at least 10 of those are disabled. I use some of their Samsung counterparts instead like Calendar and and contacts.
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I have plenty of accounts on my device (mail, cloud, etc.) and over 500 apps. At one point, I had crossed 1k apps.
These WILL consume battery, irrespective of whether they are in deep sleep or not.
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My total app count including system, bloatware is 474 with 138 blocked, apps I installed are 138 (about 10 of those are on the block list).
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Karma doesn't work reliably on Android 11+ as you pointed out.
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It will still block but you loss it's valuable logging features. I simply use my N10+ running on Pie as the template for the one running on Q.
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This not only impacts SOT but performance.
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That's true. But I'm always concerned about whether unknown entities/ mods/ ROMs etc. do more than what they claim. I find it safer to deal with the known devil than take help from the unknown angel.
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I use some of their Samsung counterparts instead like Calendar and and contacts.
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I use multiple platforms (Android, iOS, Windows, macOS) and Google products allow me to access my content on all of them. Quite indispensable.
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My total app count including system, bloatware is 474 with 138 blocked, apps I installed are 138 (about 10 of those are on the block list).
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Where did you get this number from? I see that the number is different under system settings, Google Play Store and 3rd party apps. Not sure which one is giving the correct figures.
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That's true. But I'm always concerned about whether unknown entities/ mods/ ROMs etc. do more than what they claim. I find it safer to deal with the known devil than take help from the unknown angel.
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Stock with locked bootloader only. Package Disabler runs well and keeps the demons stfu.
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Where did you get this number from? I see that the number is different under system settings, Google Play Store and 3rd party apps. Not sure which one is giving the correct figures.
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SD Maid Pro, a very useful app.
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Stock with locked bootloader only. Package Disabler runs well and keeps the demons stfu.
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If you search the internet, you'll see bad actors can simply install a service on your phone (locked bootloader) that you won't see anywhere and they'll be able to see everything you do, and more. As an unsuspecting user, it will make no difference to you unless they want you to know.
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SD Maid Pro, a very useful app.
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You seem to be using an old version. Here's mine (I see I'm still over 1,000 apps). 🫣
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If you search the internet, you'll see bad actors can simply install a service on your phone (locked bootloader) that you won't see anywhere and they'll be able to see everything you do, and more. As an unsuspecting user, it will make no difference to you unless they want you to know.
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Keeping it locked reduces the risks considerably.
You are what you install though...
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You seem to be using an old version. Here's mine (I see I'm still over 1,000 apps). 🫣
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I tend not to update apps unless I have a good reason. Updates carry risks.
629 apps is an awful lot. I throw out apps I don't need or if they cause trouble. Sampling apps is a bad practice that can result in messing up hidden user settings. Not all apps uninstall clean and undo changes they made. I stick to mostly to apps/versions I know to be good. One of the reasons this load will be 3 yo in June.
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Keeping it locked reduces the risks considerably.
You are what you install though...
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I have seen a video where an IT expert demonstrated how easy it is to infect someone's device with spyware and the user wouldn't even know it. The takeaway was to not give your phone to anyone.
Here we are talking about an unknown entity that charges a subscription to disable something on your phone to help with performance and battery life. How do you know for sure that they don't do anything more than that?
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629 apps is an awful lot. I throw out apps I don't need or if they cause trouble. Sampling apps is a bad practice that can result in messing up hidden user settings. Not all apps uninstall clean and undo changes they made. I stick to mostly to apps/versions I know to be good. One of the reasons this load will be 3 yo in June.
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I agree. About 250 of them are watchface apps which are essentially just placeholders that help launch the app page on Play Store on the watch.
Even then I'll be having about 400 user apps which is still very high. May be I'll uninstall the rarely used ones someday instead of keeping them in a frozen state.
TheMystic said:
I have seen a video where an IT expert demonstrated how easy it is to infect someone's device with spyware and the user wouldn't even know it. The takeaway was to not give your phone to anyone.
Here we are talking about an unknown entity that charges a subscription to disable something on your phone to help with performance and battery life. How do you know for sure that they don't do anything more than that?
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Yeap.
Never give your phone to anyone or allow remote access. Never plug in foreign OTG drives.
TheMystic said:
I agree. About 250 of them are watchface apps which are essentially just placeholders that help launch the app page on Play Store on the watch.
Even then I'll be having about 400 user apps which is still very high. May be I'll uninstall the rarely used ones someday instead of keeping them in a frozen state.
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Yeah occasionally I'll spot a misbehaving app, not malware just poorly written. Just uninstalled a photo gallery app like that a few days ago; it's database size was abnormally high. Took a good 30 minutes to clean up the mess it made. Deleting it's data screwed up another good gallery app. Fortunately it was repairable by simply clearing the good app's data and letting it rebuild. It had me going at first
blackhawk said:
it's database size was abnormally high.
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Let me guess: Was it Aves Gallery?
blackhawk said:
Deleting it's data screwed up another good gallery app.
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This is unusual. Never experienced something like this. I mean all apps are sandboxed and something like this is not expected.
TheMystic said:
Let me guess: Was it Aves Gallery?
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Simple Photo Gallery, what a mess
TheMystic said:
This is unusual. Never experienced something like this. I mean all apps are sandboxed and something like this is not expected.
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I'm running on Pie so no scoped storage. Still it shouldn't have done that. I backed up the whole dcim folder before I uninstalled it because I was expecting trouble However it didn't damage the contents of the dcim folder, just another app. Swell. Glad it's gone... it was always firewall blocked.
blackhawk said:
Simple Photo Gallery, what a mess
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If you're talking about this, I would be surprised. It works fine on my phone.
blackhawk said:
I'm running on Pie so no scoped storage. Still it shouldn't have done that.
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That's true.
blackhawk said:
it was always firewall blocked.
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Simple Mobile Tools make very clean apps, unless you are referring to something else. None of their apps have internet permission in them.