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Multitasking is a joke on the One X!

What in the world did HTC do to Android ICS mulitasking!? Apps seem to be completely removed from cache every single time they're closed for ~30 seconds. They also no longer re-open in the same state that you left them! If I leave the browser, it needs to reload the web page. If I leave a game, I need to start from the beginning. If I pause and exit Slacker radio for a minute, the app closes and I can't even resume my music with the headphones button! I need to re-open the app and start playing all over again.
With my old Galaxy Nexus I never had ANY of these issues and multitasking was clearly the best of any smartphone on the market. HTC has completely crippled this device and it's becoming more and more frustrating (push email notifications & sms notifications are a whole other mess). It seems HTC has created Sense to focus more on preserving battery than focusing on creating a good user experience. The first few days with the phone were great but as more and more of these "instances" pop up, this phone is beginning to seem less and less powerful and intuitive.

NextNexus said:
What in the world did HTC do to Android ICS mulitasking!? Apps seem to be completely removed from cache every single time they're closed for ~30 seconds. They also no longer re-open in the same state that you left them! If I leave the browser, it needs to reload the web page. If I leave a game, I need to start from the beginning. If I pause and exit Slacker radio for a minute, the app closes and I can't even resume my music with the headphones button! I need to re-open the app and start playing all over again.
With my old Galaxy Nexus I never had ANY of these issues and multitasking was clearly the best of any smartphone on the market. HTC has completely crippled this device and it's becoming more and more frustrating (push email notifications & sms notifications are a whole other mess). It seems HTC has created Sense to focus more on preserving battery than focusing on creating a good user experience. The first few days with the phone were great but as more and more of these "instances" pop up, this phone is beginning to seem less and less powerful and intuitive.
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I agree, they're using very aggressive memory management.
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mobilehavoc said:
I agree, they're using very aggressive memory management.
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So much so that multitasking seemed significantly more advanced on my iPhone 4S. This is supposed to be Android's strong suit!

Ya its not even like saved state. Its just a new icon for your previously opened apps.
This is one area where I wish I still had my gnex. HOwever everything else is better on this phone.

With root available, you can probably tweak this a bit with the likes of auto killer, or a similar min free tweaking app.

Music works fine, hell it even remember my last song and position played after a reboot, using htc music.

I made two videos of the problem:
If I just tried to copy and paste these links and make this post on my one x it would have never worked, would have kept reloading the page and forget everything I typed. Lol.

demarton said:
Music works fine, hell it even remember my last song and position played after a reboot, using htc music.
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HTC Music is an HTC developed app so it's possible they tweaked their own app to work well. I listen to most of my music online and prefer Slacker radio which has been nothing short of a disaster with this device b/c of the multitasking issues.

demarton said:
Music works fine, hell it even remember my last song and position played after a reboot, using htc music.
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Does streaming google music play(app) work in the background ( while using navigation or a browser ) ?

With auto killer, i just tested, and i can keep 3 apps running in the memory. Try it out.
edit* scratch that, i tryed after a few minutes of inactivity, reloads.

I believe the reason they are using such aggressive memory management is because on the One X International Version Sense would constantly crash and you would see the "loading" screen.
Frankly I dont know which is more annoying...

dharani1234 said:
Does the music play in the background ( while using navigation or a browser ) ?
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Music works in the background for me while it's playing (even Slacker). But if I pause the music for a minute to go do something, it's impossible for me to begin playing from where I left off and I have to re-open the app and start playing a song from the beginning. It's very annoying.

spyz88 said:
I believe the reason they are using such aggressive memory management is because on the One X International Version Sense would constantly crash and you would see the "loading" screen.
Frankly I dont know which is more annoying...
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Oh it still does that also, but it isn't a crash, it happens when you go back to the home screen, you just see "loading"
I am just hoping the phone is still fast and has good battery life once/if this is fixed.

wrxdrunkie said:
I made two videos of the problem:
If I just tried to copy and paste these links and make this post on my one x it would have never worked, would have kept reloading the page and forget everything I typed. Lol.
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Thank you for portraying what I mean...but your issue is even WORSE than mine. If I switch back to an app THAT quickly it won't reload like that. For me, it has to be around 30 seconds.

Lets hope we get root soon. I'm sure some custom roms will cure this issue
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Bigjim1488 said:
Lets hope we get root soon. I'm sure some custom roms will cure this issue
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Root is already possible since yesterday. Custom ROM is not possible until we get bootloader unlocked.

i'm guessing that's why my simiclock doesn't update after i don't touch my phone for a long period of time (overnight)

In the developer settings, there is an option to set the limit of background processes. The default is set to "standard limit." Does anyone know what this limit is, or if changing it to 4 processes might actually help?
Edit: just tried and it clearly does not help.
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Try going to settings developer opinions and look under apps and make sure those settings are to your liking. It has a setting for turning off apps right away and how many apps can run in the background.
Edit: I keep on going in and out of apps trying this but unless I'm out for like 5 min its not making me start over Pandora. Try clicking and unclicking apps close right away.
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The issue definitely needs addressing, and I'm sure it's not a "what was HTC thinking" situation so much as a bug that they'll fix.
I've noticed the issue myself, but it hasn't annoyed me to the point of complaining. Maybe it's better on my phone. It'll almost certainly depend on what background services you have running. By that, I mean GMail, Email, Twitter/Facebook updates, playing music. Also, some apps seem to handle multitasking pretty well. NFS Hot Pursuit was obviously coded to accommodate Android multitasking, as I can quit it, check my email/twitter, maybe browse a website, and when I go back to NFS, it's on the pause screen and I can pick up the race where I left off.
Different processes receive different priorities as far as Android memory management go. If you're playing music (in HTC Music, Play Music, PowerAmp, etc,) then Android recognizes that this app is actively doing something, even if you consecutively load up every other app on your phone. You can go back to the music app and it won't have to reload anything. That's just an example. Other apps can do this too, as long as the programmers coded it right. I'm guessing NFS Hot Pursuit does this as I've never had a problem with it.
Of course, none of that excuses the poor multitasking, since the gnex seems much better at it. (And I'm assuming you people who have tried both have been running virtually identical apps on each phone.)
I don't know a ton about memory management and multitasking in Android, so I could only speculate as to where the problem really lies. Could be that Sense takes up too much memory (surprise surprise!), could be that HTC made the memory management too agressive, could be weird other things that I don't even know about, such as some sort of time-out for background apps.
I'm going to do some playing around and let you know if I can find any ways to improve it easily.

Minfree - optimal settings/exclusions?

Hi Everyone,
Currently using the ViperX ROM, and loving the ability to toggle minfree on the fly. This isn't exclusive to this ROM but I've always had a problem playing music on the One-X, which I find amusing.
Basically if I open the player, and background it, it'll randomly kill itself. I might get 30 seconds out of it, I might get an hour.
Not only that, but I pretty much can't use anything else. If I go on a webpage - dead. Music killed.
What are the optimal settings for keeping my backgrounded apps alive? I'm happy enough to lose some 'free' RAM in order to constantly keep my music alive, even if I have to manually kill it I'm okay with this.
Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks everyone.

Eambo said:
Hi Everyone,
Currently using the ViperX ROM, and loving the ability to toggle minfree on the fly. This isn't exclusive to this ROM but I've always had a problem playing music on the One-X, which I find amusing.
Basically if I open the player, and background it, it'll randomly kill itself. I might get 30 seconds out of it, I might get an hour.
Not only that, but I pretty much can't use anything else. If I go on a webpage - dead. Music killed.
What are the optimal settings for keeping my backgrounded apps alive? I'm happy enough to lose some 'free' RAM in order to constantly keep my music alive, even if I have to manually kill it I'm okay with this.
Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks everyone.
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Wrong Forum. ViperX is for the International One X, not the LTE One XL

Eambo said:
Hi Everyone,
Currently using the ViperX ROM, and loving the ability to toggle minfree on the fly. This isn't exclusive to this ROM but I've always had a problem playing music on the One-X, which I find amusing.
Basically if I open the player, and background it, it'll randomly kill itself. I might get 30 seconds out of it, I might get an hour.
Not only that, but I pretty much can't use anything else. If I go on a webpage - dead. Music killed.
What are the optimal settings for keeping my backgrounded apps alive? I'm happy enough to lose some 'free' RAM in order to constantly keep my music alive, even if I have to manually kill it I'm okay with this.
Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks everyone.
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What music player are you using? Either the app itself or the ROM might be the problem, I'd say nandroid and then flash something else to see if you have the same problem.

I don't know how I keep doing this, keep getting into the wrong forums! Really sorry about that
As for the music player, it happens with a few different ones. The one I use most is actually a YouTube streamer - it streams the audio without the video, and works backgrounded too.

Long shot here, bit have you checked settings,developer options for kill back ground apps after so many are running or kill stuff not on screen..?
If not something like that, it's over my head.
WR
Rattled off a KingCobra OneX

MusicBoss Alternative?

Hi guys
Currently have a pebble, and I have been interested in the Gears for a while, however I can't seem to find out if it can control all music apps with metadata much in the same way MusicBoss does on the pebble?
It existing on the Gear would result in an insta-buy for me. You can even switch the app you're controlling direct from the watch app.
http://www.rebootsramblings.ca/n/musicbossforpebble/

fade2black101 said:
Hi guys
Currently have a pebble, and I have been interested in the Gears for a while, however I can't seem to find out if it can control all music apps with metadata much in the same way MusicBoss does on the pebble?
It existing on the Gear would result in an insta-buy for me. You can even switch the app you're controlling direct from the watch app.
http://www.rebootsramblings.ca/n/musicbossforpebble/
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I am currently running on a non sammy version of the gear but I'm pretty sure it comes with a "Music Control" app just for the stock music player. Besides that, apps are still being developed considering it hasn't been out for even a month.

CarbonWyre said:
I am currently running on a non sammy version of the gear but I'm pretty sure it comes with a "Music Control" app just for the stock music player. Besides that, apps are still being developed considering it hasn't been out for even a month.
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Thanks for the reply, but the music control it currently offers is pretty dire in comparison to musicboss. I will probably wait and see how future development goes, also taking into account the new Android Wear devices may change the landscape somewhat going forward.

[Q] Disabling auto-next?

Hey folks
I have checked the FAQ and done a bit of googling to no avail. Is it possible to disable MXPlayer from auotmatically opening the next video in a folder?

Kr1tikalMas said:
Hey folks
I have checked the FAQ and done a bit of googling to no avail. Is it possible to disable MXPlayer from auotmatically opening the next video in a folder?
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Goto Settings | Player & enable back to list option.
Rather than googling if you have looked at the settings, you could have saved some time....

Ahhhhhaaa! Thanks. That makes sense now. Thaaanks!

Sadly still not what I was looking for exactly I wish there was a way to just have it do nothing once the video has finished. Pity

If you mean that you want it to stay in the video playback screen when it reaches the end, that does not exist right now.

I Really Need this feature (Auto-Stop after each song)
Hi, I'm a musician performer and I want to use MX Player as my lyrics viewer, I want it to stop after each video. (Play on demand and Auto-stop)
CDB-Man said:
If you mean that you want it to stay in the video playback screen when it reaches the end, that does not exist right now.
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Same problem here. Just stop paying would indeed be preferred solution.

waize2 said:
Hi, I'm a musician performer and I want to use MX Player as my lyrics viewer, I want it to stop after each video. (Play on demand and Auto-stop)
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eighty-four said:
Same problem here. Just stop paying would indeed be preferred solution.
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If you have read the thread properly you might have found the solution. The Solution is already posted by me just before few posts.
For You guys Again,
In MX Player, Goto Settings > Player & enable "Back to List".
If it's not working just export your settings & share here. I will check it.
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When you look little few seconds videos and you need to rewatch it, exiting isn't really solution. It takes time to load player all the time. All it needs is just ability to stop playing without doing anything else. If needs, then you can exit, if needs you can click next.

eighty-four said:
When you look little few seconds videos and you need to rewatch it, exiting isn't really solution. It takes time to load player all the time. All it needs is just ability to stop playing without doing anything else. If needs, then you can exit, if needs you can click next.
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It may not be a big issue if you are opening the video from MX Player itself. Opening from third party app may not be as fast as you are expecting since it checks & verify many system modules which are required to run properly.
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Hi guys,
I reported this as a bug twice but got no reply. I have a solution though.
My "back to list" was checked correctly. However, whenever I fresh install the latest beta or alpha, the loop feature gets turned on by default. It's installed in thus state. I only figured this out by accident.
To stop it, you need to tap and hold on the fast forward/next button/arrow during a video.
You'll see one of the loop options selected. Unselect it and you should be good to go. Of course, as mentioned, make sure back to list is checked in settings too.

Dave Davis said:
Hi guys,
I reported this as a bug twice but got no reply. I have a solution though.
My "back to list" was checked correctly. However, whenever I fresh install the latest beta or alpha, the loop feature gets turned on by default. It's installed in thus state. I only figured this out by accident.
To stop it, you need to tap and hold on the fast forward/next button/arrow during a video.
You'll see one of the loop options selected. Unselect it and you should be good to go. Of course, as mentioned, make sure back to list is checked in settings too.
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By default all loop settinga are disabled. You might have enabled once, when the device has automatically backed up your data. It's a misbehavior from android backup & restore feature.
Marshmallow auto backups the app data by default. It restores the data after reinstall. I had a similar issue of non default settings on fresh install. After installing just open the app properties & clear the data. If you want to disable auto restore data, goto device settings > Backup & Reset & disable "Automatically Restore" or disable entire feature by disabling "Backup my data".
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Yea, that sounds like the most likely issue. It's a mistake I could have made by sitting on the device while listening or sleeping.
However, it took so long to figure this out because there's an manual backup and export feature in addition to the automatic restore in MM.
Anyway, just wanted to throw that in there because it was an issue that was driving me so crazy, I had already had begun moving to another player. Fortunately , that never needed to happen and hopefully it will help someone else.

Question Anyone seeing this "bsp monkey & bsp monkey1" in accessibility?

I have checked all apps and everything in my knowledge but cannot figure out what it is about? Please help me what it is "bsp monkey" & "bsp monkey1" in accessibility

I too can see that and was wondering what is that.

After recent update only this is visible.

I messaged Iqoo team over whatsapp on wednesday 14th Dec. They did not have any clue and has not answered till yet

I communicated with Google and they never heard about it. Seemed to arrive at same time META SERVICES self installed.

I think I had find something that will be helpful as I was also seeing this accessibility setting after new update.
So here that might help
Okay, so imagine you have a game you like to play on your phone or tablet. Sometimes when you open the game, there's a little video that plays before you can start playing. This video is called an ad. Sometimes, you can skip the ad after a few seconds, but sometimes you have to click a certain spot on the screen to make it go away.
The service that the statement is talking about doesn't know how to do that clicking on certain spot on the screen, so some ads that need that clicking won't work. It's like if you had a toy that only knows how to do certain things, but not everything.

Uninstall/Disable this app com.vivo.bsptest using ADB and it will be gone.