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Disable Google Voice

Hi Guys
Is there a way to disable Google Voice in Nexus One in non-Rooted devices? Google results are not useful.
I don't want this application to run in the background. It restarts even if you kill it.

read up on how android handles memory allocation.

maybe you can help me and show me where to read?

henihazbay said:
maybe you can help me and show me where to read?
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Here you go. Highlights are at the bottom of my post and of the article.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
*Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when more memory is needed.
*Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when it’s done doing what it needs to do.
*Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when you haven’t returned to it in a long time.
*Most services (while possibly running in the background) use very little memory when not actively doing something.
*A content provider is only doing something when there is a notification for it to give. Otherwise it uses very little memory.
*Killing a process when it isn’t ready only causes it to have to reload itself and start from scratch when it’s needed again.
*Because a task is likely running in the background for a reason, killing it will only cause it to re-spawn as soon as the activity that was using it looks for it again. And it will just have to start over again.
*Killing certain processes can have undesirable side effects. Not receiving text messages, alarms not going off, and force closes just to name a few.
*The only true way to prevent something from running at all on your phone would be to uninstall the .apk.
*Most applications will exit themselves if you get out of it by hitting “back” until it closes rather than hitting the “home” button. But even with hitting home, Android will eventually kill it once it’s been in the background for a while.

Thanks for the reply.
Most of those highlights are not valid for me or for any nexus one users because:
a lot of unused application cause a big amount of RAM which is resulting with a lag/slower N1
Some applications will never be used by some users, for example Amazon MP3, or Google voice (for me)
So, coming to my initial question, is there a way to disable Google Voice?

I guess the simplest way is modacos kitchen. There is a option (?) to remove google voice.
And i agree that removing unneeded apps will improve performance.

any other ideas?

I have just deleted the apk from /system/app
;-)

when i go to /system/app and try to delete amazon MP3 it gives me an error...
i do see that it is -r- (i assume that means read only) is there a way to override that?

Either root and delete the .apk via adb, or you're out of luck.

jn_vista said:
when i go to /system/app and try to delete amazon MP3 it gives me an error...
i do see that it is -r- (i assume that means read only) is there a way to override that?
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Is your device rooted?

no root, no delete

jin1207 said:
no root, no delete
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Exactly. This forum isn't really the place for anyone who doesn't have or want root. Pretty much everything we do here requires root access.

Part Four said:
Exactly. This forum isn't really the place for anyone who doesn't have or want root. Pretty much everything we do here requires root access.
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Agreed! Be rooted and do what mod you want to do...

Out of curiosity, with the Nexus, with GoogleVoice running how much free memory do you have? As Cy would say, "free memory is wasted memory." Why kill the app if it's not draining the memory that's needed?

So Carloswithac, that means ("taskiller", "advanced task killer", etc) are practically useless??
If so I'm uninstalling them From My Nexus.

Best Android Task Manager - Open Processes

Hello All,
I wanted to see what everyone thinks is the best application manger for Android.
Also is anyone familiar with the Getjar free app store?
Thx All,
Force

What do people think of "Advance Task Killer"
It seems to me it shows all tasks, not jsut the open ones.
Regards,
Force

FYI,
Many people say talk killers are not necessary, as that is a windows phenomenon, Linux & android treating background processes differently.
Regards,
Force

I personally use Advanced Task Manager for $0.99. I have read the articles about how Android does not need task Managers because it is built in, but I know from personal experience that without it if there are running programs in the background my phone gets really sluggish especially when I get a phone call and it makes it difficult to answer etc. Take in account, this experience was mainly with the Hero (slower) but I use on my Evo now.

You know people will argue either way, because there is evidence to support both sides of the argument. so with that in mind- i honestly havent had the need for one with my evo, but it you truly are considering one- i actually have a pair to suggest.
one is OS Monitor- free on the market- great app for pinning down process that could be an issue- also supports dmsg repporting- and logcat is built in to- so if your testing something and it goes all wonky you can export the log to view on a pc and send it to the developer too.
the second is AMM- or Auto Memory Manager- free and donate versions on the market. There are pretty much a couple of sliders and you set it how you want android to handle the process. I have had great success with this app on my other device- normal free memory was around 30-35 and using this set aggressively i saw gains of 50mb at most times keeping my freememory to around 75-80mb range.
Hope this helps.

I take both sides. I have task manager installed, but use if ONLY when needed. Aka, I used it when I want to kill the browser after I'm done with it so next time I launch it I won't be seeing old pages.

I like EStrongs Task Manager.

http://www.appbrain.com/app/nextapp.systempanel.r1 is nice, it can kill processes, monitor system stats, uninstall apps and more. There is also a free version.

TREYisRAD said:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/nextapp.systempanel.r1 is nice, it can kill processes, monitor system stats, uninstall apps and more. There is also a free version.
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i installed that last night, cool app

why someone who know don't explaine exactly how android works and do we need killers and if yes which one is best...
Everyone of us using something but question is that which one is best for our needs.

quick system info pro (free)
I only use the manual task killer widget when memory gets down around 100. Spikes it right back to about 250.
Whats your guys' normal memory range? I see someone on here saying 50 was normal for them but that seems REALLY low to me.

frifox said:
I take both sides. I have task manager installed, but use if ONLY when needed. Aka, I used it when I want to kill the browser after I'm done with it so next time I launch it I won't be seeing old pages.
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Does the stock Sense browser not have an option to kill the windows by hitting menu? On CM, I do menu, windows, and X them out

Task manager?

Hey guys, I've just purchased a xoom and I feel a little lost regarding running apps, does honeycomb have a task manager like froyo and gingerbread?
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it is in the same place, Settings > Applications > Manage then tap on running.
Unless you have a custom rom that has a third party task killer/manager. It will look different.

Guys, Android does not need a task manager. The only reason you may need to force an app to close is if it's hung and then as BP has rightly said above, you can do this within settings.
Please please please don't install FUD applications like advanced task manager, Android handles this far better than these programs can.

burden010 said:
Guys, Android does not need a task manager. The only reason you may need to force an app to close is if it's hung and then as BP has rightly said above, you can do this within settings.
Please please please don't install FUD applications like advanced task manager, Android handles this far better than these programs can.
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I agree Android for the most part doesn't need a task manager. I do believe though that the OP was talking about the built in task manager on some phones that you get when you longpress the home button...
And furthermore, I believe honeycomb has no need for even a longpress home button task manager.
I thought it did at first, but somehow it doesn't seem like it does. Maybe its a result of its true multi-tasking abilities idk.

vamp6x6x6x said:
I agree Android for the most part doesn't need a task manager. I do believe though that the OP was talking about the built in task manager on some phones that you get when you longpress the home button...
And furthermore, I believe honeycomb has no need for even a longpress home button task manager.
I thought it did at first, but somehow it doesn't seem like it does. Maybe its a result of its true multi-tasking abilities idk.
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Yes, this was the reason I asked.
But I've noticed the apps don't stay in the running services even if I just press the home key (mostly) ....wierd'... but GREAT
Loving my xoom guys, only got it today and its fun fun fun.
The speed of honeycomb and the tablet itself is awesome, only lag I see is opening the apps section at the top right of the screen, I'm sure they could make that animation smoother - however, the rest is sooo fast I can overlook this.
Updated to 3.1 just 15mins after first boot up, all wirelessly.
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Maybe I'm not completely understanding....If I go to Setings > Applications > Running Services, it doesn't show everything that is running. I would like to completely close some programs out after I'm done using them to conserve battery life. I downloaded a task killer app called SystemPanel Lite. To give an example, after I'm done playing Words with Friends, I would like it to close completely. And yet, it runs in the background instead. This does not show in the Running Services menu in Settings. But it does show up in SystemPanel. And if I watch it, it -does- use CPU periodically which would decrease battery life.
There are four sections in the SystemPanel Lite. Active, Service Only, Inactive (cached) and Internal System. All of these are pretty self explanitory to me except the Inactive (Cached) one. Again, Words with Friends does not show in the Running Services section and I assume it is because it is not a service (at least SystemPanel says its not...it lists it as active).
Could someone please explain to me how to close applications (perhaps I'm not doing it correctly) or where I can go to exit them completely if there is a way to do so without third party apps.....and what exactly is the Inactive (Cached) and how does it differ from the other 3 sections?

AznGothic said:
Maybe I'm not completely understanding....If I go to Setings > Applications > Running Services, it doesn't show everything that is running. I would like to completely close some programs out after I'm done using them to conserve battery life. I downloaded a task killer app called SystemPanel Lite. To give an example, after I'm done playing Words with Friends, I would like it to close completely. And yet, it runs in the background instead. This does not show in the Running Services menu in Settings. But it does show up in SystemPanel. And if I watch it, it -does- use CPU periodically which would decrease battery life.
There are four sections in the SystemPanel Lite. Active, Service Only, Inactive (cached) and Internal System. All of these are pretty self explanitory to me except the Inactive (Cached) one. Again, Words with Friends does not show in the Running Services section and I assume it is because it is not a service (at least SystemPanel says its not...it lists it as active).
Could someone please explain to me how to close applications (perhaps I'm not doing it correctly) or where I can go to exit them completely if there is a way to do so without third party apps.....and what exactly is the Inactive (Cached) and how does it differ from the other 3 sections?
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What you are seeing is what's running. If you hit menu, cached you will see things that are open but NOT running. They do not effect battery life.
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Any new instructional updates for rooting droid pro?

Hi-
I asked this question in the Droid Pro forum but didn't get any responses. I am a full-on newbee to the droid world (came over about two weeks ago from Blackberry). I like many aspects of the droid but can't stand the horrible battery life, the 80 some-odd programs constantly running in the background and having to grant access to my to use and manipulate my calendar, contacts, SD card, etc...for a flashlight app. My son tells me that rooting will solve this, but I'm finding so many different versions on how to do this, many of which Verizon has found ways to prevent and many are seeing varying results. Anyway, I was just wondering if one of the experts out there can help sort me out.
The Android version I'm running is 2.2.1 (I can provide System, Baseband, Build, ERI and PRL versions if helpful).
Thanks!

frombb2droid said:
Hi-
I asked this question in the Droid Pro forum but didn't get any responses. I am a full-on newbee to the droid world (came over about two weeks ago from Blackberry). I like many aspects of the droid but can't stand the horrible battery life, the 80 some-odd programs constantly running in the background and having to grant access to my to use and manipulate my calendar, contacts, SD card, etc...for a flashlight app. My son tells me that rooting will solve this, but I'm finding so many different versions on how to do this, many of which Verizon has found ways to prevent and many are seeing varying results. Anyway, I was just wondering if one of the experts out there can help sort me out.
The Android version I'm running is 2.2.1 (I can provide System, Baseband, Build, ERI and PRL versions if helpful).
Thanks!
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I'm certainly not the expert you seek mate, but I will have a go at explaining it for you!
I believe the battery life of the Droid Pro is a widespread criticism. There are several things you can do on your phone to save that precious juice.
1. Set your screen brightness as low as you can tolerate, or set it to auto. The screen backlight is the biggest drain on battery life.
2. In Settings > Location, turn off 'Use wireless networks' and 'Use GPS satellites'. These are used by the location service (and Google) to get a lock on your position. The GPS one especially has a sizeable effect on battery life.
3. Some people will advise against this, but get a task killer from the market. Advanced Task Killer is a good one. One tap of a button will kill the majority of those pesky background services. It's very easy to use, and it gives you the option of selecting which programs you'd like to keep alive etc.
4. You could also source the official extended battery, although I know this is less than ideal
Rooting your phone will help you with the background processes and also the carrier 'bloat' installed on your phone. There are several programs which let you stop or 'freeze' system processes, as well as uninstall them. The most common is Titanium Backup. This lets you freeze/uninstall almost anything on your phone, as well as backup all your apps and data (make sure you do this before you make any changes, so you have something to fall back on).
As far as the actual rooting process goes, SuperOneClick is the easiest. It's a small program you download, run on your computer, plug your phone in and hit 'root'. Make sure you select the 'Gingerbreak' exploit as opposed to 'psneuter' otherwise it may not work.
I also understand what you're saying about the apps' system requirements and so on. This isn't fixed by rooting, and if the list of what can be controlled scares you, just try another app There's plenty of lightweight ones out there that aren't so daunting!
I hope this helps you somewhat. If you need anything else, let me know!

Thanks so much for your response - very helpful. I am, BTW, already doing items 1-3. With 4 (the extended battery), I used one with my Blackberry, so I certainly do not have an aversion to this.
Thanks again!

Coming from Windows Phone & need advice...TIA

Coming from a couple years on the Windows platform mandated by the office but now they allow Android & I chose LG G3 - but there are some things on the Windows phone I miss and can;t find solutions for on the LG...
1 > The Nokia 920 had a great way of displaying the time on the time out screen - can't get that to work at all on the LG with any app..
2> The Windows platform will read texts to me while in the car on Bluetooth. There is an droid app called ReadItToMe but it is awfully inconsistent. I had heard the Samsungs come with svoice that do this well...anything similar for the LG?
3> Windows had a way of killing apps automatically in the background and keeping just 5 or so open...this allowed the battery to last for an entire day for over two years. I can not figure out how to do this on the LG. I dl Advanced task killer but it seems more manual than auto...maybe my fault.
Thanks for any productive input!

DPLOY said:
Coming from a couple years on the Windows platform mandated by the office but now they allow Android & I chose LG G3 - but there are some things on the Windows phone I miss and can;t find solutions for on the LG...
1 > The Nokia 920 had a great way of displaying the time on the time out screen - can't get that to work at all on the LG with any app..
2> The Windows platform will read texts to me while in the car on Bluetooth. There is an droid app called ReadItToMe but it is awfully inconsistent. I had heard the Samsungs come with svoice that do this well...anything similar for the LG?
3> Windows had a way of killing apps automatically in the background and keeping just 5 or so open...this allowed the battery to last for an entire day for over two years. I can not figure out how to do this on the LG. I dl Advanced task killer but it seems more manual than auto...maybe my fault.
Thanks for any productive input!
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Welcome to android and in answer to your questions:
1. What you are referring to is a feature of some Nokia Lumia Windows Phones called Glance Screen and I have not seen any android phone with this feature. Sorry but I don't know of any apps that can do this as this currently appears to be hardware specific to the Lumia line of phones.
2. I believe the phone has the capability built in under "System Settings" "Sound", "Message/call voice notifications". There is an option for it to read text messages it loud. I think once you turn it on, it is on all the time though and not exclusive to bluetooth. If you are willing to buy an app and learn how to use it (depending on your knowledge it may be a steep learning curve), Tasker may be able to create a profile that sets the conditions under which this turns on.
3. This is an area of contention. I personally will no longer use Task killers. For the most part, various research and tests I have found states that it has no positive impact on the battery, and in some cases, actually makes worsens it. Android does a good job of managing memory and many of the active tasks should be left running (i.e. google services, weather, and/or any app you may want to keep in sync or have widgets for). In my opinion, ATK's only potential "good" use would be to kill a rogue app but you can do that without the program. I would focus more on the apps syncing in the background and how often they do so, along with other common things such as screen brightness, to get better battery life. For me, I will swear by Greenify over task killers (I am rooted so it is very effective) because certain persistant apps can be hibernated and can be set up to do so automatically when the screen shuts off. With Greenify, the apps remain hibernated while the screen is off and for the most part when the screen is on, unless I open the apps. An example is Facebook for android. I personally do not care about notifications received on my phone for my FB account. Even though I have chat, notifications, and contact sync off, FB persists to run as an active background process (not to be confused with cached background processes which get dumped as android needs active RAM). With Greenify, this is not an issue.

Thanks aybarrap1! I see you are in Jax near me - thanks for helping a local out!
I will try Greenify asap. Also - in the stock contact app how do you copy (or forward) someone's contact information & text it to someone else? WP made this easy but I can not figure it out...
THANKS AGAIN aybarrap1!

DPLOY said:
Thanks aybarrap1! I see you are in Jax near me - thanks for helping a local out!
I will try Greenify asap. Also - in the stock contact app how do you copy (or forward) someone's contact information & text it to someone else? WP made this easy but I can not figure it out...
THANKS AGAIN aybarrap1!
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Open messaging, open the thread of the person you want to send TO (or create a new message), tap the paper clip button to the left of the text box to get a list of things to attach, then tap contact and select the contact to forward

DPLOY said:
Thanks aybarrap1! I see you are in Jax near me - thanks for helping a local out!
I will try Greenify asap.
THANKS AGAIN aybarrap1!
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Glad to be of assistance. I don't think you will be disappointed with Greenify. Keep in mind you need to be rooted to be able to hibernate system apps.