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Cooling app (Coolify)

Because a lot a people seem to be suffering from over heating. I decided that it might be useful to bring this app to users attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-coolify-cool-android-t2855316

Yeah, I got this one also. Don't know if it's really doing anything. Every now and then it goes off when my phone is on the tylt charger.

Don't need root to stick it in the fridge #troll :silly:
I have no idea how the app works, but I have a feeling you'd be trading cooler temps for sluggier performance.

I never get a warm phone. My m8 use to get warm, but not this

Been using coolify since it was released along with the apps shown below, phone is flying and doesn't overheat
Greenify
Green power
Nlpunbounce
Stoplog
Sdmaid

gsw5700 said:
Been using coolify since it was released along with the apps shown below, phone is flying and doesn't overheat
Greenify
Green power
Nlpunbounce
Stoplog
Sdmaid
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Using Greenify since S III its really good app and prevented my phone lagging too much. Coolify seems doing nothing. At least for me still heats and reaches 43C on 10 min. single game. Angry Birds, Simpsons Tapped Out etc.

Ahhh, I don't really run games, gaming appears to heat stress most phones

Wrong temperature shown by coolify
I installed the coolify application and sistematically shows a temperature that is more or less 20 degrees lower than the temperature of the Xposed module that shows the same information on the notification bar (I don't remenber the name),
The Xposed module shows the real temperature. In fact upon reaching 100 degrees the phone turns off automatically for high temperature.
It happens to me often browsing complex internet sites (i imagine containing a lot of javascript stuff and/or images).
The application not helped in any way (I will test a little more before uninstalling)
I have an italian 3 brand 10G.

jhericurls said:
Because a lot a people seem to be suffering from over heating. I decided that it might be useful to bring this app to users attention.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-coolify-cool-android-t2855316
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Different materials and phone construction are making it possible for processors to run at higher temps and not really heat stress components (new LG G3 here and I'll see 100 degrees occasionally, when playing Eufloria or something) but normally I think we can be not so worried about a phone feeling 'warm' in our hand when in fact it's not much warmer than our body temperature.

FractalSphere said:
Different materials and phone construction are making it possible for processors to run at higher temps and not really heat stress components (new LG G3 here and I'll see 100 degrees occasionally, when playing Eufloria or something) but normally I think we can be not so worried about a phone feeling 'warm' in our hand when in fact it's not much warmer than our body temperature.
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Uhm, mine LG G3 turns automatically off upon reaching 100 degrees.
If you try to touch the power button it's really hot (maybe is right back processor).
Anyway coolify seems not help

[Q] Serious Nexus 5 overheating problem

Hello. I'm new with the account here, but been reading this forum for years.
I'm creating this thread because my new Nexus 5 (which I have for 20 days now) is overheating more than a normal mobile device should.
When i bought it, it had 4.4.4 Kit kat android, and I had that one for about 5 days, and in that time, I didn't notice any overheating, or maybe didn't pay attention, can't remember really.
But after installing official Lollipop 5.0.1, the device is heating pretty good even when browsing internet for 5 minutes, at about 30-40% brightness.
**** Please tell me if some of your devices are acting the same, and is it worth a try to install back an older android to try if it will stop overheating, or my device may be faulty and should I take it back for another one (or maybe switch to LG G2) ?
Because I'm still unable to post image links, i will write it down:
- Ambient temperature: 23 degrees Celsius
- The temperature sensor is taped on the back side, at the side of camera, this is where it overheats most. (even if not using camera)
- Phone temp after staying on standby with screen off: 28 C (it's not warm but it is warmer than desk which it is sitting on)
- After staying idle on home screen with screen on for 10 minutes (50% brightness): 30.5 C
- After chatting on Messenger for 10 minutes: 34.3 C (feels warm)
- After recording video for 4 minutes: 41 Celsius!!! (almost uncomfortably hot in the whole upper half of the phone, both the back side and the screen)
- After 15 minutes letting it cool down, with screen off of course, it is 38 C (still hot to touch), and it stays like that untill I reboot the phone, then it cools down.
The test took about 50 minutes, and after that, battery was drained for about 25%.
-While charging, the phone does not overheat, just gets a little warm which is OK. (haven't tried wireless charging)
P.S. I don't play games on the phone...
Please act quick in case I should return the phone...

the only time my phone gets hot is when im intensively doing a lot of things..
for example.. im playing ingress, have tether ON, and my two sons are using their tablets connected to my phone playing ingress too..
but if i turn off the game and turn off tether, it cools down..
to me it sounds u have something intesively using your CPU and perhaps GPS and other radios.
hold power button.. when PWR OFF shows, long press it and reboot into SAFE MODE...
use the phone for a bit and see if it gets warm... this should tell you if its apps installed.

I only used wifi, no tethering, no GPS, 3G, NFC or any other radios, cell signal is good so phone is not searching for it.
- In safe mode, it still gets warm when using camera. When browsing internet and watching images in google search, also but just mild warm..
- But after sitting and thinking, I've found a problem! After recording with camera and leaving it to cool down, it didn't cool down because it had to make an effort to upload that 5 min video on Google drive via Auto backup!
After turning the Auto-backup off, it is now much cooler!
I will post tomorrow with the results, if something changes...
Anyway, thank you!

First of all, "warm" doesn't mean anything.
Battery temperature does not mean much either, as the CPU is what generates the most heat.
There is a battery temperature throttle that reduces the CPU frequency, but it is almost entirely pointless as the CPU will always reach it's own throttle temperatures MUCH, MUCH earlier than the battery will. The CPU starts throttling at 65C CPU temp (NOT battery temp), and shuts itself down at about 105C CPU temp. Unless your battery somehow reaches a batterytemp of 70C+ (nearly impossible because the CPU will always hit it's throttle first), then I would never even take it into any sort of consideration unless you have a physical battery defect.
Using the camera generates heat since it's CPU and power intensive.
Using the phone in general will generate heat.
Keep in mind that mobile devices are passively cooled, not actively cooled with a fan/liquid.
Not sure what you're so worried about.

Lower your brightness

Lethargy, thank you for a short physics lesson. I'm already into physics and cooling systems so all is clear. I was just worried a bit because all of my previous phones weren't getting this warm (hot), but also never had a multi-core processor in phone eather, maybe that's the reason why I never experienced this before.
Battery temp (measured with app) gets up to 40-42 degrees Celsius, while the phone case gets up to 41 when recording video. Of course that temp won't damage the device, I'm not worried about the processor, but that temp is degrading battery life, in long term.
And about the brightness, phone is not meant to be used at lowest brightness all the time, so that shouldn't be an excuse for high temps. Just sayin'...
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app

AlexSRB said:
Lethargy, thank you for a short physics lesson. I'm already into physics and cooling systems so all is clear. I was just worried a bit because all of my previous phones weren't getting this warm (hot), but also never had a multi-core processor in phone eather, maybe that's the reason why I never experienced this before.
Battery temp (measured with app) gets up to 40-42 degrees Celsius, while the phone case gets up to 41 when recording video. Of course that temp won't damage the device, I'm not worried about the processor, but that temp is degrading battery life, in long term.
And about the brightness, phone is not meant to be used at lowest brightness all the time, so that shouldn't be an excuse for high temps. Just sayin'...
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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The only thing that sounded odd was how it wasn't cooling down until you rebooted, but it sounds like you figured that out with the automatic upload setting.
41-42c battery temp can be normal after prolonged usage, though personally I usually see that after a short gaming session. My brightness is around 40% and high brightness will cause extra heat.
Otherwise the phone is very thin so you can feel the stacked SoC and RAM heat up through the skin fairly easily, right around the camera area as you mentioned.
I think each device and CPU is slightly different and can vary by a few degrees under load as well.

AlexSRB said:
Lethargy, thank you for a short physics lesson. I'm already into physics and cooling systems so all is clear. I was just worried a bit because all of my previous phones weren't getting this warm (hot), but also never had a multi-core processor in phone eather, maybe that's the reason why I never experienced this before.
Battery temp (measured with app) gets up to 40-42 degrees Celsius, while the phone case gets up to 41 when recording video. Of course that temp won't damage the device, I'm not worried about the processor, but that temp is degrading battery life, in long term.
And about the brightness, phone is not meant to be used at lowest brightness all the time, so that shouldn't be an excuse for high temps. Just sayin'...
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
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Your temperatures are fine and you shouldn't worry about it. It's average for a Nexus 5, and there are throttles/shutdown temps anyways, for both the battery and CPU. I've had mine for a year and there hasn't been any sort of issue, normal usage should be negligible to the condition of the battery.

Ok, everything seems to be ok then. Now I can go to sleep without worrying Thanks guys!
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Faulty device ?

Hello XDA ! I have problem with my Note 20 Ultra Exynos... When I bought it, started lagging immediately, I brought it to authorized service center and they told me that device is working correctly and it has no problems. But now when I am doing something e.g using Samsung browser, or watching videos it starts freezing and random reboots. So I tried wiping cache, factory/Odin reset but no results, I am not using many 3rd party apps. What do you think ? What is the problem ? Or can you tell me how to know if CPU or GPU is faulty ? Using normal mode FHD+ and 60Hz... I'll attach drive link How it is lagging

I have the exact same problem
While the device get warm it's starts laging and freezing,
And Samsung said me too the device working correctly,
I have 2 friends who got the same device and doesn't have those problems.
This is my last Samsung device for me.
Horrible customer service .

It's an app that's probably sucking up bandwidth, CPU cycles and battery.
Google Play Services, Backup Transport, Framework and all cloud/chat apps are prime suspects.
A random reboot isn't normal though. Android 11 is a mess. Try running factory loads for the Google system apps, Gmail and Gmaps. Kill Google firebase, all feedback and all cloud crap.

The exynos chip has basically zero cooling. (No joke, look at a teardown vid of it).
It's way too much CPU for way too little heat sink.
It can throttle itself (like all chips will) but can definitely crash under heavy load and heat if it's a poorly binned chip.

xtravbx said:
The exynos chip has basically zero cooling. (No joke, look at a teardown vid of it).
It's way too much CPU for way too little heat sink.
It can throttle itself (like all chips will) but can definitely crash under heavy load and heat if it's a poorly binned chip.
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It's up in the air which cooling solution Samsung used short of doing a teardown of that individual phone. Samsung isn't consistent with the internal parts used during even a single production run... a long running issue with Sammy. Most noticeable with the smaller chipsets and components that can cause a firmware update to skew some of the "same" models... until Samsung includes the inadvertent variants in the update.
You know it's bad when Samsung physically has to examine the phone to know what chipsets were used (excluding the processor,etc).

i9apps said:
I have the exact same problem
While the device get warm it's starts laging and freezing,
And Samsung said me too the device working correctly,
I have 2 friends who got the same device and doesn't have those problems.
This is my last Samsung device for me.
Horrible customer service .
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It drives me crazy, warms up for no reason and lags af, sometimes I put it in the fridge to cool down :d

bekasulaberidze said:
It drives me crazy, warms up for no reason and lags af, sometimes I put it in the fridge to cool down :d
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There's a reason it's running warm; excessive cpu cycles and/or excessive internet usage.
Find the apks responsible.
It's also toasting your battery*... been there, done that, and yes it's maddening until you sort it out.
This probably needlessly cost me at least 200 maybe a 1000 full charge cycles on my old Li battery
*charge battery no more than 80% to help limit the high current drain damage until the issues are resolved. Be especially careful in high ambient temperatures as you can do permanent damage to it quickly.

blackhawk said:
There's a reason it's running warm; excessive cpu cycles and/or excessive internet usage.
Find the apks responsible.
It's also toasting your battery*... been there, done that, and yes it's maddening until you sort it out.
This probably needlessly cost me at least 200 maybe a 1000 full charge cycles on my old Li battery
*charge battery no more than 80% to help limit the high current drain damage until the issues are resolved. Be especially careful in high ambient temperatures as you can do permanent damage to it quickly.
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Thanks for tips, I had S20 Ultra before, but it was working perfectly no lags no reboots, they have same exy chips right ? The hell is going with this one ? I am very very disappointed with N20U, right now CPU temp is 26C, not every time/everyday starts warming and lagging, I can't tell what is causing heating because, I am doing same [email protected] everyday, scrolling reddit, listening to music etc. Sorry for my English if it is grammatically correct...

bekasulaberidze said:
Thanks for tips, I had S20 Ultra before, but it was working perfectly no lags no reboots, they have same exy chips right ? The hell is going with this one ? I am very very disappointed with N20U, right now CPU temp is 26C, not every time/everyday starts warming and lagging, I can't tell what is causing heating because, I am doing same [email protected] everyday, scrolling reddit, listening to music etc. Sorry for my English if it is grammatically correct...
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Your english is fine. Not sure about chipsets, it should be a great phone though once you work this out. I'm thinking about getting either this or another 10+.
I have the Note 10+ and it was a hot running power hog too. At first it was ok but within a few days it went to hell.
What I learned...
Do not enable any power saving in Device Care ie the toggle on stuff, enable fast charging only. Do not optimize any apps in the settings options.
Android can manage its self well without that junk.
Developer options>Standby apps, all buckets should show as active, if not power management is active! If active it will cause erratic behavior as well. Blocking background and data usage is generally ok to to do though.
Use Package Disaler to help tame it.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Use Kara Firewall (Playstore) to lock down the internet. It's logging feature doesn't work on Q and above though I believe. I'm running on Pie.
If you did any major firmware updates do a factory reset now. Otherwise clearing the system cache can help.
Try rolling back apks especially system and Google apks to their factory loads or updating them. Updating them sometimes makes them worse.
Clearing the system logs as needed with a 3rd party cleaner can help.
Disable all Google, Samsung and carrier feedback. Disable Goggle Firebase.
Disable all cloud, WhatsApp, FB etc. crap.
Goggle Play Services*, Backup Transport and Framework are prime offenders, clear data as needed. Package block them too and well as Playstore when not needed.
You can also firewall block Play Services* UID 10O44, Android Services UID 1000 and Gmaps*.
I use Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker, it's helpful in spotting Goggle Framework usage. Framework will always show as running even if PBed but it's usage should drop drastically.
Play with it, adjust by trial and error.
My 10+ is now a heavily optimized stock load, cool running machine that runs very well, fast and stable. It wasn't always like this though.
Once you get it optimized avoid firmware updates especially if it's running well as they can throw you straight back into the hurt locker.
*toggle on as needed. PD MDM let's you set a widget to toggle box checked apps on/off. It works great.

blackhawk said:
Your english is fine. Not sure about chipsets, it should be a great phone though once you work this out. I'm thinking about getting either this or another 10+.
I have the Note 10+ and it was a hot running power hog too. At first it was ok but within a few days it went to hell.
What I learned...
Do not enable any power saving in Device Care ie the toggle on stuff, enable fast charging only. Do not optimize any apps in the settings options.
Android can manage its self well without that junk.
Developer options>Standby apps, all buckets should show as active, if not power management is active! If active it will cause erratic behavior as well. Blocking background and data usage is generally ok to to do though.
Use Package Disaler to help tame it.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Use Kara Firewall (Playstore) to lock down the internet. It's logging feature doesn't work on Q and above though I believe. I'm running on Pie.
If you did any major firmware updates do a factory reset now. Otherwise clearing the system cache can help.
Try rolling back apks especially system and Google apks to their factory loads or updating them. Updating them sometimes makes them worse.
Clearing the system logs as needed with a 3rd party cleaner can help.
Disable all Google, Samsung and carrier feedback. Disable Goggle Firebase.
Disable all cloud, WhatsApp, FB etc. crap.
Goggle Play Services*, Backup Transport and Framework are prime offenders, clear data as needed. Package block them too and well as Playstore when not needed.
You can also firewall block Play Services* UID 10O44, Android Services UID 1000 and Gmaps*.
I use Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker, it's helpful in spotting Goggle Framework usage. Framework will always show as running even if PBed but it's usage should drop drastically.
Play with it, adjust by trial and error.
My 10+ is now a heavily optimized stock load, cool running machine that runs very well, fast and stable. It wasn't always like this though.
Once you get it optimized avoid firmware updates especially if it's running well as they can throw you straight back into the hurt locker.
*toggle on as needed. PD MDM let's you set a widget to toggle box checked apps on/off. It works great.
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Thank you again for all these tips, I'll try them !
But I have two more question if you know, my device only charges at super fast charging, when I enable fast charging it says cable charging, using stock charger and USB cable what is this ? This charger only charges super fast ? and the second question is why enable fast charging ? I always charge at regular charge...

bekasulaberidze said:
Thank you again for all these tips, I'll try them !
But I have two more question if you know, my device only charges at super fast charging, when I enable fast charging it says cable charging, using stock charger and USB cable what is this ? This charger only charges super fast ? and the second question is why enable fast charging ? I always charge at regular charge...
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It only fast charges if it's enable and has a fast charging compatible brick/cable.
It should say fast charging when plugged in if it is. If not try toggling the switch 3 times*.
It will charge at normal speed otherwise.
Fast charging will likely decrease the battery longevity at least slightly.
Li's love frequently midrange 40-70% partial charge cycles. It takes only 10 minutes for a 20% charge in this range. It's fast.
* failure to engage or erratic fast charging can indicate a battery failure...so I learned recently
If battery swelling is spotted replace it asap.
It will push the back panel up if it swells.

Hi guys,
I bought a used Note 20 Ultra Sanpdragon version at a very very advantageous price, yet to arrive, but the one who sold it to me says he has only one "problem", the phone restarts randomly.
What could be the cause?

ShortyPG said:
Hi guys,
I bought a used Note 20 Ultra Sanpdragon version at a very very advantageous price, yet to arrive, but the one who sold it to me says he has only one "problem", the phone restarts randomly.
What could be the cause?
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Problem is hardware bro,maybe is better buy new phone then with low price. Sorry.
I have this phone when launched, never restart randomly.

maxpaynezm said:
Problem is hardware bro,maybe is better buy new phone then with low price. Sorry.
I have this phone when launched, never restart randomly.
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Thanks bro, the phone is in warranty, but I live in Italy and the phone is imported. He has no time to resolve the issue that's the reason of the sell. I hope is however service in crash, something resolvable via software.
Sorry for my English.

I would boot your devices into Safe and see if the same issue is present. If it is not, then it is definately an app, which is causing the issue. I would start by uninstalling apps from your device, starting from the most recently ones, which you have installed.

ShortyPG said:
Hi guys,
I bought a used Note 20 Ultra Sanpdragon version at a very very advantageous price, yet to arrive, but the one who sold it to me says he has only one "problem", the phone restarts randomly.
What could be the cause?
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It may be the battery if you're lucky.
Start there.
If the battery is good, factory reset*, if still doing it firmware reflash**.
If that doesn't get it, it may be a blown mobo.
Probably your best bet is to have a tech with a lot of Samsung experience look at it.
*leave all system apks running in their factory load versions. Add no 3rd party apps until you can ascertain it's running stable. If so add 3rd party apps. Then only update system apps if needed and one at a time.
**may have corrupted firmware. Usually a hardware failure causes this but not always.
You can skip the factory reload and go directly to this step if you want. Load its original stock Android 10 rom for now.

Question S21 plus latest software. Battery life (great)

I dusted off my xda account to let you know that this latest software is great... Battery life finally doesn't drain when not used. (battery drain while not used drives me crazy, wife has iPhone... Always in use, it lasts forever)
Anyway Im the guy that never have problems, not many apps. No smart watch connected. Not rooted, not gamer, no cloud.
My battery used to drain like 15% overnight. Not anymore. It barely uses 40% a day.. Before it was about 75%.
I'm planning to freeze my software update app. Bc whatever they did is working great.
My device is more than 12 mo old, and i use the 85% charge limit (slowest possible charge). Unlocked US model directly from Samsung.

Yay.
Definitely package block updates if it's running well now.

you lucky guy! I'm waiting for the Pixel 7/7 pro and then I'll choose between them and the Zenfone 9. Samsung cheated me for the last time!
My phone is slower than my previus Op7Pro, battery drain is huge and it's always hot. I have it from July 21 but this summer the phone has been unusable under the sun or on the beach because of the huge thermal throttling. I had to splash in the swimming pool while taking photos of my children because it was very hot and went in thermal protection.
Battery life is terrible too, I've to charge at least twice a day even without using it.
Do you think is something that can be solved by the Samsung support?

deskmat81 said:
you lucky guy! I'm waiting for the Pixel 7/7 pro and then I'll choose between them and the Zenfone 9. Samsung cheated me for the last time!
My phone is slower than my previus Op7Pro, battery drain is huge and it's always hot. I have it from July 21 but this summer the phone has been unusable under the sun or on the beach because of the huge thermal throttling. I had to splash in the swimming pool while taking photos of my children because it was very hot and went in thermal protection.
Battery life is terrible too, I've to charge at least twice a day even without using it.
Do you think is something that can be solved by the Samsung support?
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Turn off global power management, find the battery/bandwidth hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis ie optimize it. All Samsung's should be optimized for best performance.
Package Disabler is something I always use but it's not my only tactic.
Since the N10+ Samsung has lost its balance.
That said my now cool running snappy fast N10+ was once a stuttering, hot running battery/bandwidth hungry hog. It doesn't seem like the same device now, it runs like a bat out of hell. Been running like this for 2 years on the same load. All you can do is try to optimize it.
Samsung Tech support? Bah-ha-ha-ha, don't count on it. Rarely are they helpful, but occasionally you get lucky. Updates tend to break not fix things... think before you click and disable all auto updates especially firmware.

blackhawk said:
Turn off global power management, find the battery/bandwidth hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis ie optimize it. All Samsung's should be optimized for best performance.
Package Disabler is something I always use but it's not my only tactic.
Since the N10+ Samsung has lost its balance.
That said my now cool running snappy fast N10+ was once a stuttering, hot running battery/bandwidth hungry hog. It doesn't seem like the same device now, it runs like a bat out of hell. Been running like this for 2 years on the same load. All you can do is try to optimize it.
Samsung Tech support? Bah-ha-ha-ha, don't count on it. Rarely are they helpful, but occasionally you get lucky. Updates tend to break not fix things... think before you click and disable all auto updates especially firmware.
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thanks for your suggestion, this night (when my children will fall asleep XD ) I'll try to check. Where can I find the option to disable the global power management?
About the power governor I'm using the mid option named High ( I have Optimized - High - Maximum) but I've tried the other two options and wait I've seen is bad performance (no increase in battery life) or increase of the phone temperatures with no real benefit in the daily use.
I'm hating this phone, I'm thinking to change asap, I'm waiting for the Pixels, hoping Google is able to manage the thermal issues better than Samsung.
About the support I don't mean the one by the phone, I know it's useless , I would mean if my thermal and battery problems can be related to some hardware issues.

deskmat81 said:
thanks for your suggestion, this night (when my children will fall asleep XD ) I'll try to check. Where can I find the option to disable the global power management?
About the power governor I'm using the mid option named High ( I have Optimized - High - Maximum) but I've tried the other two options and wait I've seen is bad performance (no increase in battery life) or increase of the phone temperatures with no real benefit in the daily use.
I'm hating this phone, I'm thinking to change asap, I'm waiting for the Pixels, hoping Google is able to manage the thermal issues better than Samsung.
About the support I don't mean the one by the phone, I know it's useless , I would mean if my thermal and battery problems can be related to some hardware issues.
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It's in Device Care under battery. Individual app battery background settings don't invoke global power management so you can do that instead.
That's just the start. You probably need to use a package disabler or adb edits to disable about 70-80 bloatware apps.
This is how on my N10+'s its configured.
Unlike latter Samsung flagships the N10+ is a well balanced phone in terms of form factor, usability, functionality and power consumption.
It supports expandable storage up to 1tb.

It seems that disabling the global power management the slug mode has been disabled too. I need to check it in the next days if the situation stays like this or not. In any case I still need to block the bloatware.
Thanks for your help

Development [MOD]Thermal-Throttling-Modifier[Pixel 7 Pro]

Code:
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
* I am not responsible for bricked devices thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed
* Please do some research if you have any concerns about what this MOD does before flashing it
* YOU are choosing to make these modifications, don't point fingers at me if something goes wrong
*/
Ladies and gentlemen,
A small modification for you with great and HOT results.​
Changes I made to the thermal configuration:
-The default Virtual-SKIN-based throttling threshold was starting at 39 Celsius, that was removed and the first threshold value is now 55 Celsius (at 55C it will HARD throttle, throttling is not completely eliminated here on purpose and at 55C it will behave the same as the default throttling mechanism at that temperature).
Keep in mind that SOC will throttle regardless of when it hits its own TjMax values so you don't need to worry about any "meltdown". lol
- Display won't switch to 60Hz anymore and neither will the maximal possible brightness be reduced as it is normally happening with stock throttling thresholds.
So far I'm using this on EvoX ROM but this should work basically on ANY ROM as the throttling is relying on the same file and as far as I managed to observe (amount of ROMs checked out) it's the same on those ROMs.
Pros:
- Throttling thresholds are drastically increased, meaning if you experienced any HIGH FPS drops during playing any "heavy" games, this will prevent that from happening to an extent and time.
- Any apps that rely on high processing power, will have more space and time to work without being affected by thermal throttling
Cons:
- Depending on your usage and what exactly you do on your phone, the device could get uncomfortably warm in your hands, and battery temperature will raise MORE than you got used to it since the SOC won't be throttled that fast as it does on the stock. Keep in mind that high battery temps are not healthy, and they will cause faster degradation. Degradation occurs anyways, the question is only how fast based on the temps the battery is being exposed to. Many OEMs allow such temps, so, Pixel 7 series with this mod isn't anything different compared to them.
- If you're a heavy "gamer" and play some games like Genshin, TOF, COD (at 120fps), etc... (you'll have a smoother experience (less FPS drops) based on slower/weaker throttling) but I recommend always using a Peltier cooler to keep that battery and the device as cool as possible (regardless if this phone or another).
Why did I create this mod?
I personally use an app called MotionCam Pro. It's basically a RAW video recording app that relies on HIGH processing power (it records RAW DNG frames) and it heats up the device pretty fast, well, Pixel 7 Pro hits the throttling threshold really fast and it's causing the recording to drop A LOT of frames to a point that the footage recorded is not "usable".
With this mod, I can now shoot RAW videos for longer periods with almost no dropped frames and under higher ambient temps. Yes, the phone warms up much more, but it does the JOB for me and that's all that matters to me anyway. I don't care if I'll need to replace my battery after 1 year instead of 2 years because I lost maybe 15-20% of the battery capacity (I upgrade my phones almost yearly).
Have fun frying eggs on your phone.
Installation
- Flash via Magisk
- Reboot your device
- Enjoy​

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JohnTheFarm3r said:
Installation
- Flash via Magisk
- Reboot your device
- Enjoy​
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Thanks for sharing this with us

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Changes I made to the thermal configuration:
-The default Virtual-SKIN-based throttling threshold was starting at 39 Celsius, that was removed and the first threshold value is now 55 Celsius (at 55C it will HARD throttle, throttling is not completely eliminated here on purpose and at 55C it will behave the same as the default throttling mechanism at that temperature).
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Is it possible to change threshold around 41 Celsius? 55 Celsius is quite hard temp for me, but 39 is to low. I think best for me will be around 41 ~ 42. Thanks for reply

Too bad there is no mod that limits the CPU temperature to 26 degrees Celsius 🥹

Sasaiber said:
Too bad there is no mod that limits the CPU temperature to 26 degrees Celsius 🥹
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There actually is. Open up the phone, remove the "heatsink" from the SOC, and add liquid nitrogen to keep the CPU under 30c degrees.
What device has a CPU temperature lower than 30 Celsius degrees? That doesn't even happen in idle mode, and especially not with passively cooled CPU/GPUs

JohnTheFarm3r said:
There actually is. Open up the phone, remove the "heatsink" from the SOC, and add liquid nitrogen to keep the CPU under 30c degrees.
What device has a CPU temperature lower than 30 Celsius degrees? That doesn't even happen in idle mode, and especially not with passively cooled CPU/GPUs
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I've regularly seen my SOC sit between 27c and 30c when idle.

Beefheart said:
I've regularly seen my SOC sit between 27c and 30c when idle.
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I have the temperature of the battery itself 27-35 in normal use on lte. Samsung s22 ultra Stays at 25 degrees(((
The hot battery issue was back in the Pixel 6 Pro. In summer, at 27 - 45 degrees when using social networks.
Pixel 7 pro is now - 31 degrees battery at 11 degrees room temperature .
I already have a custom kernel - does not help

Beefheart said:
I've regularly seen my SOC sit between 27c and 30c when idle.
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Of course, it depends on the ambient temperature a lot. Don't take it literally, but you know what I meant.
As soon as you touch your phone it will start spiking way above 40c and under some load instantly 50c+.
Tensor G2's default TjMax is 100c. YES, 100c.

Thank you for this, makes things much more bearable. Stock thermal throttling is really bad.

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Of course, it depends on the ambient temperature a lot. Don't take it literally, but you know what I meant.
As soon as you touch your phone it will start spiking way above 40c and under some load instantly 50c+.
Tensor G2's default TjMax is 100c. YES, 100c.
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So it does happen in idle then.

cant wait for pixel 8 pro with tensor G3 zuma manufactured in 3nm process

Paz9 said:
Thank you for this, makes things much more bearable. Stock thermal throttling is really bad.
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Indeed. I'm not a fan of the "heat", but I would rather bear with the heat on the surface of the phone than have a completely crippled phone when it hits the throttling threshold. As I mentioned, the apps I use are completely useless when that happens.

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Indeed. I'm not a fan of the "heat", but I would rather bear with the heat on the surface of the phone than have a completely crippled phone when it hits the throttling threshold. As I mentioned, the apps I use are completely useless when that happens.
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yes dropping frames when using android auto and want to record something is really annoying because phone get 40C while using android auto and you can miss good video while driving

I'm really interested in knowing how you use the MotionCam on Pixel 7 Pro. i tried it and edited the footage with the app itself and it turned out to be super noisy. Any tutorial would be awesome.
Also, do you know if it's possible for Pixel 7 Pro to get DC Dimming?

This is unfortunately not compatible with TD1A.220804.031 - causes phone to hang on G with progress bar

It seems a little counter intuitive, but my phone stays cooler in standby with this mod. I believe it is because it no longer throttles during longer tasks in the background, like photo or DropBox syncs. Of course it also heats up more while gaming, but the performance also doesn't degrade. Thanks for this OP!

@JohnTheFarm3r Does this mod work with the latest March update? Thank you!

woundman said:
@JohnTheFarm3r Does this mod work with the latest March update? Thank you!
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You can test it and let us know.
I'm not on STOCK ROM. Also, I doubt Google did a big change when it comes to thermal configuration, so it should work.
Since it's a magisk module, it's easy to test, if it doesn't work, it can be removed.

JohnTheFarm3r said:
You can test it and let us know.
I'm not on STOCK ROM. Also, I doubt Google did a big change when it comes to thermal configuration, so it should work.
Since it's a magisk module, it's easy to test, if it doesn't work, it can be removed.
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Confirmed working with March update. Thank you.