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[Q] ICS OTA official - battery life opinions

Looks like there isn't a thread on this yet, and now that I, and many others, have the OTA up and running, I thought it would be good to compare notes.
I don't have anything meaningful to say right now as I've been too busy playing with the new rom to note when I installed, what percentage the battery was at when I did so, and so on.
However, I've had a nexus s for a long time and I am a serial rom flasher, and you get an impression pretty quick of how quick the battery is going down - I'm sure you all know what I am saying.
Seems to me that my battery is going down quick. I won't know for sure until I actually go to work on Monday. Then I will wake up in the morning with 100% charge and all will become clear as the day goes on.
But the rest of you must be getting some impression of battery life by now - so what do you think??
ps - Liking this rom. All desire to buy a galaxy nexus has evaporated for the moment, which is really good as that is one expensive phone

It's not great. Seems like Mediaserver is the biggest culprit for my drain. Even though I dont listen to music for long periods of time. Seems like maybe it's got a runaway process or something.
It's hard to say at this point, though.

I reckon my battery is going down really fast. was going to vote - but just discovered you can't vote on your own poll. What a pisser
<<edit>> you can vote on your own poll. i wasn't logged in..................

It's really hard to judge this early since the update just came yesterday. Also some may think their battery life is poor but maybe since the update we've all been playing with our phones more?

AeroEchelon said:
It's really hard to judge this early since the update just came yesterday. Also some may think their battery life is poor but maybe since the update we've all been playing with our phones more?
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No, it's been confirmed on other phones too. Even Galaxy Nexus users are experiencing it. The problem seems to lie in something that's not letting the phone sleep. If you break down the usage of Android OS, "Keep Awake" runs for WAY too long, which keeps the phone constantly awake and draining battery.

nickmv said:
No, it's been confirmed on other phones too. Even Galaxy Nexus users are experiencing it. The problem seems to lie in something that's not letting the phone sleep. If you break down the usage of Android OS, "Keep Awake" runs for WAY too long, which keeps the phone constantly awake and draining battery.
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Yeah, I just noticed something, that might be relevant. Went into wi-fi settings. Options have changed a bit and so has default setting.
New options are like this................
Question asked is, "Keep wi-fi on during sleep".
On GB the default answer would have been no - only have wi-fi on when screen is on.
The other options are to have wi-fi on, "only when plugged in", or "never".
Mine was set to "always". First time I had been into this menu so looks like that is default, and that has got to burn the battery up. I've now set it to, "only when plugged in".
So, will see what difference it makes, and post back.

To Be Honest I'm Getting Better Battery Life Than When I Was On The Latest Kang.

nickmv said:
No, it's been confirmed on other phones too. Even Galaxy Nexus users are experiencing it. The problem seems to lie in something that's not letting the phone sleep. If you break down the usage of Android OS, "Keep Awake" runs for WAY too long, which keeps the phone constantly awake and draining battery.
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I thought this thread what asking the battery life from GB to ICS.
How can Galaxy Nexus users judge if their battery life is worse? Worse compared to what? They only had ICS to begin with.
Frankly, I've been using the ICS Alpha's for about two weeks and now been using the official OTA ROM for a few hours and it has been the same battery drain.
I have no opinion on ICS vs GB battery drain if that what this thread is asking.

AeroEchelon said:
I thought this thread what asking the battery life from GB to ICS.
How can Galaxy Nexus users judge if their battery life is worse? Worse compared to what? They only had ICS to begin with.
Frankly, I've been using the ICS Alpha's for about two weeks and now been using the official OTA ROM for a few hours and it has been the same battery drain.
I have no opinion on ICS vs GB battery drain if that what this thread is asking.
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This thread is asking, "Has your battery life gone to rat-sh1t or is it still like it was - I suppose

buachaille said:
Yeah, I just noticed something, that might be relevant. Went into wi-fi settings. Options have changed a bit and so has default setting.
New options are like this................
Question asked is, "Keep wi-fi on during sleep".
On GB the default answer would have been no - only have wi-fi on when screen is on.
The other options are to have wi-fi on, "only when plugged in", or "never".
Mine was set to "always". First time I had been into this menu so looks like that is default, and that has got to burn the battery up. I've now set it to, "only when plugged in".
So, will see what difference it makes, and post back.
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Actually, I've read that WiFi uses much less power than a cellular network - because of the shorter range. So if you're constantly using background data, having WiFi enabled can actually make the battery last longer.

So far, 'Android OS' is winning handily at destroying my battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20410020&postcount=129
I'll keep an eye on it and see if it continues.

Confirmed. This is a real battery killer it seems. My battery has been massacred!

LOL i like all of the poll choices...
now back on topic
i think what you guys are seeing is just the good old "new device effect" all over again
if you haven't notice everyone with a new phone always complain about battery problem
that's because it's so sweet you can't put it down, and you are constantly using it
since the screen eats up the more juice, you can hardly refill it fast enough
it just the only difference in this case we don't have a new hardware but we do have a new OS, which makes it all sweet brand new renewed all over again

AllGamer said:
LOL i like all of the poll choices...
now back on topic
i think what you guys are seeing is just the good old "new device effect" all over again
if you haven't notice everyone with a new phone always complain about battery problem
that's because it's so sweet you can't put it down, and you are constantly using it
since the screen eats up the more juice, you can hardly refill it fast enough
it just the only difference in this case we don't have a new hardware but we do have a new OS, which makes it all sweet brand new renewed all over again
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I would be very interested to see if google roll out a future update to maybe throttle back android os's use of battery because it is either a bug in ICS or else they have just lumped more processes under the android os title in the battery menu and that's why it is so high.

I can confirm 'Android OS' has mostly more battery usage than sleep mode isnce ICS (ported versions or that one day OTA). Anyway i didn't use my phone today cuz i have left it home. But what can you say after one day.

briggl said:
I can confirm 'Android OS' has mostly more battery usage than sleep mode isnce ICS (ported versions or that one day OTA). Anyway i didn't use my phone today cuz i have left it home. But what can you say after one day.
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This is the kind of feeling I get when i get a good flash
It's the real thing!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gna8GzfOa8I
You - will never let - it slip away

or how about this - this is how you feel when you flash a rom you think has everything you think you want, but then you discover it doesn't have all that **** after all.....
You want it all but you can't have it..............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_QgWLUGDrk&feature=related

I'm also having the same issue where the "Android OS" is the one using most of my battery life :-/
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From me to you ios
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sRYp9Q9w_c&feature=related

[FIX] Battery Drain Issue Solution

I was always having the problem of when I would turn my device off for the night when I turned it on in the morning I would have lost anywhere between 15% and 40% of my battery. The easiest solution (only if I remembered to) was to pull the battery every night after I turned the device off, if I remembered. Well this was an annoyance for both having the battery drain if I forgot and to have to remove the batter every night and then put it back in every morning. I know it seems like I am just complaining with that last statement but I just like to have a phone that just works.
Now, back to the problem. I was always running either a port of MIUI or a CyanogenMod Stable release with both 'stock' kernels or one of faux's for CyanogenMod or morfic's for MIUI (as they got along better for some odd reason). Well, no matter the combination of kernel type (OC, UV, or Stock) I always had the battery drain problem and stability issues (depending). Then when the new baseband was released I installed it after I found out that the CyanogenMod RC3 supported the new baseband to see if that would fix the problem, just it still didn't work even with different kernels.
I was starting to get fed up with these issues so I decided to try one last thing: I used the LG support tool and went back to completely stock! I did root it with SuperOneClick though so I could use all the apps that I was using before (Titanium Backup to restore all of them). I have been running my phone like this for two weeks now and have never once had the battery drain problem. And what is even better is I am getting an average of 40 hours of use out of one charge in and out of WiFi with WiFi calling and 4G when not on WiFi (mind you I am not a really heavy user). I hope this helps!
Well, I know this is a long post but I figured some back story would be good for those to see if you have had the same issues to be able to see if this solution could work for you too. Please click Thanks if this helped you.

So, It sounds like the custom roms issues then. I had the same issues and did evevy thing you have done except using stock rom.

Could you post a picture of your battery usage?

Might have to try that I don't know how long I could stay stock tho
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I will post a screen shot when my battery gets low, I just charged it up yesterday morning.
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This is my battery usage so far and I was going in and out of data using google maps cause of the fire on intestate 5. So medium usage and 9 hours later at 61%.
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I've had the toughest time with this phone. I originally bought it from a guy off craigslist to replace my wife's MyTouch 3G. It was completely stock when I bought it and after messing around with it for a few hours I decided the phone seemed to be in good working condition. I have plenty of experience rooting/flashing the MyTouch 3G and my Samsung Vibrant and I have never had any problems. So I read around here for the LG G2x and went ahead and rooted it/ flashed ROM and soon after I updated to the newest baseband. I started noticing that the battery drained really quickly, to the point that my wife couldn't use her phone for long. She would play Scramble with Friends for maybe an hour and the phone would be dead. I tried flashing other ROMs to no avail. I went back to stock ROM and unrooted it but the battery still was terrible.
I started thinking maybe it is the battery, so I bought a 3500mAh battery off Amazon, but no luck. I have searched and read many many threads about this phone trying to fix this issue. I've tried downgrading the baseband but was never able to get it done. I'm sorta stumped on what to do next. The phone seems to hold a charge magnificently if nobody uses it lol. I charged the 3500mAh battery to 100% and then I left the phone for 24 hours and it was still at 99%, but as soon as you use the phone it dies quickly. My wife already gave up on the phone and I ended up getting her a Samsung Blaze which has been fantastic. Now I have to fix this phone and sell it or use it myself, but I don't know what to do. Any ideas or detailed instructions? I'm tired of searching for help on this issue, was about to make a new thread about this when I saw your thread.

Stock has good battery life but I actually got the best on EB 2.3.7. Decided I would try an ICS ROM again but it seems they all burn up battery like crazy and there's no way (that I've seen at least) to turn off background data which I've noticed is the biggest culprit as it drains the battery fairly quickly when the phone is idle.

This ROM by BuROM is really good. It's only slightly modded Stock and gets great battery life because of that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661610
Another problem may be that you are using different services on the stock kernel. If the battery is draining really fast when there is a network connection then something is probably constantly on the network. I always (meaning sometimes) test ROMs on airplane mode overnight, on WiFi only and on 4G only just to see what their drain times are. The stock kernel is pretty good but the newer CM7 kernels are fine too. I only get about a 1 hour difference after 2 days on a ROM. For some ROMS the first day is horrible as the software is doing all sorts of things. After about 2-3 resets and as many fix permissions it usually settles down into a similar battery drain to the stock kernel.
@Kingfanpaul: If that G2X drains the battery with only BuROM installed and gapps (without any other apps) then it's a hardware problem. I'd NVflash stock, check APN settings and then run it for a day to see what happens.

stormageddon said:
I was always having the problem of when I would turn my device off for the night when I turned it on in the morning I would have lost anywhere between 15% and 40% of my battery. The easiest solution (only if I remembered to) was to pull the battery every night after I turned the device off, if I remembered. Well this was an annoyance for both having the battery drain if I forgot and to have to remove the batter every night and then put it back in every morning. I know it seems like I am just complaining with that last statement but I just like to have a phone that just works.
Now, back to the problem. I was always running either a port of MIUI or a CyanogenMod Stable release with both 'stock' kernels or one of faux's for CyanogenMod or morfic's for MIUI (as they got along better for some odd reason). Well, no matter the combination of kernel type (OC, UV, or Stock) I always had the battery drain problem and stability issues (depending). Then when the new baseband was released I installed it after I found out that the CyanogenMod RC3 supported the new baseband to see if that would fix the problem, just it still didn't work even with different kernels.
I was starting to get fed up with these issues so I decided to try one last thing: I used the LG support tool and went back to completely stock! I did root it with SuperOneClick though so I could use all the apps that I was using before (Titanium Backup to restore all of them). I have been running my phone like this for two weeks now and have never once had the battery drain problem. And what is even better is I am getting an average of 40 hours of use out of one charge in and out of WiFi with WiFi calling and 4G when not on WiFi (mind you I am not a really heavy user). I hope this helps!
Well, I know this is a long post but I figured some back story would be good for those to see if you have had the same issues to be able to see if this solution could work for you too. Please click Thanks if this helped you.
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I have the EXACT same problem. I've already gone through 5 different batteries but still cant manage to get my G2x to last more than 8 hours and thats best case scenario with VERY lite use. Your post is making me think it's these custom roms. Going to try stock 2.3.4 and hopefully I get the same result as you.

airnique23 said:
I have the EXACT same problem. I've already gone through 5 different batteries but still cant manage to get my G2x to last more than 8 hours and thats best case scenario with VERY lite use. Your post is making me think it's these custom roms. Going to try stock 2.3.4 and hopefully I get the same result as you.
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What is your screen on time? I'm on latest stock CM7 with stock CM kernel and I get 2+ of screen on time easily with a 1year+ old battery. Battery depends on how you use your phone too. mAh and kernel can only do so much.
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Something odd that I have noticed is that while my phone has more consistent battery life, some of the issues that I have had with this phone are due to a bad device. My phone tends to go crazy every so often and just burn through the battery to the point of over heating. From what I can tell this is just a problem at the hardware level with my device, so while sometimes going to back to stock does help the battery if it keeps up it may be more than just the ROM.

Try to turn mobile data off / wifi off ? I have similar problem with battery drain... Right now, at deep sleep the phone sometimes works as expected : 4-7mAh, but sometimes it drains way higher : 20-50mAh.

Not sure my on screen time. I know its definitely less than an hour. I'm averaging about 5 to 6 hours of use. About 20% drain per hour on light/medium use and 10% a hour when idle.
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I used to have this issue on my old g2x even on stock roms and it seemed hopeless no matter what I did it came back. Then that phone got run over by a car. The one I have now doesn't have this issue at all on any rom or kernel....well.. almost. Some kernels are sorta battery hungry, but nothing like what I had before.

So you think it just may be a hardware issue? Bad phone?
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I guess it's possible. Have you tried a new battery?
Edit: o. I see lol
The things I tried were the nullifier and the other wipe tool who's name escapes me... nvflash based. By mansa_noob. And the day it got ran over I had flashed buru's rom and I was hoping that took care of it but I didn't get the chance to find out.

[Q] how come my battery always sucks!

something that ive been always been wondering..
every time i get a new phone i seem to have bad luck with them when it comes to battery..(optimus 4x, nexus 4, nexus 5) i always see reviews and comments saying they get X screen on time and i always get X-2 screen on time and poor standby time
ive tried everything, changing roms, kernels, checking wakelocks turning wifi or 3g off when not used(LTE always off)
the most i ever seem to get is 3 hours and thats a really good day on low performance(underclocked) and i also barely game..
how in the hell do people get 5 hours screen time and complain about it.. meaning that they actually get more! and they say they game and browse alot.. im not only comparing to people online, i also compare with my friends who get good battery.. we dont seem to be doing anything different
does anyone know the problem/solution to this?!

I really recommend to go on stock firmware and DON'T install/restore any of ur apps.
Then see what's up.
CHEERS

It's all about looking at what is using your battery and mitigating as many of them as you can. Some people might find they can't live without many features of a phone and so will generally get less time then someone who is willing to sacrifice certain features or adjust their usage to improve battery time.

Sharing your full setup could help us help you... ROM, kernel and kernel settings, apps installed, tweaks made, wakelocks you're having, etc.
Personally, I'm coming to the N5 from the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and I've been astounded with the battery life of this phone. It's the first time in over a year, that I don't feel the burning need to carry a charger with me everywhere I go. Additionally, this is the first device that's made me seriously consider NOT rooting.
As of this moment, I'm running rooted stock firmware, with Faux kernel 008m, and I'm getting spectacular results! I'd love to help you work this out.
As a point of comparison, this is a battery life readout I took two days ago... I can't complain at all about nearly 27 hours of uptime, with 4 hours SOT.
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This is on T-Mobile LTE the entire time, GPS on, moderate usage, and only useless apps (for me at least) frozen, including the GEL launcher, the stock news app, Google Earth, the stock email app, and the non-English keyboards...that's it.
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Hannibal226 said:
I really recommend to go on stock firmware and DON'T install/restore any of ur apps.
Then see what's up.
CHEERS
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what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps

jjhiza said:
Sharing your full setup could help us help you... ROM, kernel and kernel settings, apps installed, tweaks made, wakelocks you're having, etc.
Personally, I'm coming to the N5 from the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and I've been astounded with the battery life of this phone. It's the first time in over a year, that I don't feel the burning need to carry a charger with me everywhere I go. Additionally, this is the first device that's made me seriously consider NOT rooting.
As of this moment, I'm running rooted stock firmware, with Faux kernel 008m, and I'm getting spectacular results! I'd love to help you work this out.
As a point of comparison, this is a battery life readout I took two days ago... I can't complain at all about nearly 27 hours of uptime, with 4 hours SOT.
This is on T-Mobile LTE the entire time, GPS on, moderate usage, and only useless apps (for me at least) frozen, including the GEL launcher, the stock news app, Google Earth, the stock email app, and the non-English keyboards...that's it.
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ive tried almost every rom-kernel combination there could possibly be all resulting the same.. my stock had OK-ish battery life but still not great
im on 100% now charging so theres nothing to upload and my wakelocks show nothing just maps.. and i forgot to mention that i usually turn off location as well.. i have no problem changing to stock but most people get good battery life with roms too..i dont mind which kernel either cause every kernel will be really fast with the snapdragon 800
current rom liquid smooth
kernel - just upgraded to faux an hour ago.. phone is heating and percentage dropping fast(not that the previous ones were great)
no tweaks
kernel settings
fast fast charge, eco mode and intelliplug- all on
300000-2265600 frequency
and ondemand governer

namnam123 said:
ive tried almost every rom-kernel combination there could possibly be all resulting the same.. my stock had OK-ish battery life but still not great
im on 100% now charging so theres nothing to upload and my wakelocks show nothing just maps.. and i forgot to mention that i usually turn off location as well.. i have no problem changing to stock but most people get good battery life with roms too..i dont mind which kernel either cause every kernel will be really fast with the snapdragon 800
current rom liquid smooth
kernel - just upgraded to faux an hour ago.. phone is heating and percentage dropping fast(not that the previous ones were great)
no tweaks
kernel settings
fast fast charge, eco mode and intelliplug- all on
300000-2265600 frequency
and ondemand governer
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I recommend do this on a stock ROM, but can work on any.
Have your phone set up normally. Charge it full, reboot in "safe mode" and don't open any apps. Just let it do its thing for a few hours, or over night. See how the battery life is now. It should improve. If so, you got something 3rd party killing it.

Turn off location reporting and location history. It'll improve your battery life dramatically without making any noticeable impact on the phone's capabilities (including Google Now). I also recommend disabling Google+ if you don't use it.

^Great suggestion!
@namnam123 did you have heat issues with the phone, prior to flashing Liquid or Faux? From my Galaxy Nexus days, I remember heat problems being caused (occasionally) by an improper/nonexistent wipe during flashing. You cleared dalvik and cache at least, correct?
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namnam123 said:
what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps
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The point is to see if the battery still drains as quickly without any third-party apps or mods. If not, then the problem isn't the phone, but rather something you installed on it. Some apps can run in the background and drain battery power even when you're not using them. Some mods like custom kernels can also worsen battery life.

namnam123 said:
what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps
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BirchBarlow said:
The point is to see if the battery still drains as quickly without any third-party apps or mods. If not, then the problem isn't the phone, but rather something you installed on it. Some apps can run in the background and drain battery power even when you're not using them. Some mods like custom kernels can also worsen battery life.
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Exactly

jjhiza said:
^Great suggestion!
@namnam123 did you have heat issues with the phone, prior to flashing Liquid or Faux? From my Galaxy Nexus days, I remember heat problems being caused (occasionally) by an improper/nonexistent wipe during flashing. You cleared dalvik and cache at least, correct?
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yes i always wipe the cache and dalvik cache

Make sure wifi scanning is off too. And ages ago usb fast charge used to cause issues with massive battery drain when the screen was on. So turn it off and see if it helps. I am talking years ago tho. It was literally meant to be turned on when plugging in and leaving the phone alone. Then disabled when taking off charge
Also post some screen shots of your battery stats
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[Q] Battery life comparable to iPhone 6 Plus?

I have the 6 Plus and am considering getting the OPO. Battery life is a HUGE deal to me. I want to give a reference so you guys can make a judgment about expectations:
I always use autobrightness, always have consistently decent LTE connectivity, and I'm not connected to wifi at work (8hrs/day mon-fri). I browse FB and Chrome intermittently during work, and for an hour beore and an hour after work during my ride I also use Youtube and Google Music. This trip will usually drain 10-12% battery. On weekends, I use the phone even more. A typical day may include a game or two of Vainglory, a 6-player online graphically demanding 3D game that consistently drains 10% per 40min match over LTE.
This is the only phone that I've never been able to drain the battery in a day no matter what I do; I've never even ended a day below 25%. Of course, iOS doesn't measure screen on time, but I would guesstimate that if I ever did manage to drain the battery completely, it would die after at least 7 hours of screen on time.
So I'm wondering, is your TYPICAL screen on time similar, in a scenario with the stock ROM, autobrightness enabled, and using a range of apps but primarily using facebook and chrome and not much gaming? Is it reasonable to expect 7 hours? Like I said, the 6 Plus is the only phone that I've never, NEVER, not even once managed to drain the battery in a single day—are you guys able to drain the OPO battery in a day without a lot of gaming?
Tl;dr: is it reasonable to expect to TYPICALLY get 7 or more hours screen on time (in other words, NEVER be able to drain the battery on a normal day) under the following conditions:
- stock ROM no hacks
- autobrightness and location enabled
- consistent LTE connectivity
- not much gaming (not more than an hour)
- use off a variety of apps but PRIMARILY Facebook and Chrome, and some YouTube and Google Music

There's a thread for that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753354
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According to your uses as described above you can easily get 7 Hours of OST on OPO.
I am getting 6 hours of OST with heavy gaming of 1-2 hours or so and I am on stock Kernel, No Under-volting.

mchauhan said:
According to your uses as described above you can easily get 7 Hours of OST on OPO.
I am getting 6 hours of OST with heavy gaming of 1-2 hours or so and I am on stock Kernel, No Under-volting.
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You have kept your profile at Balance or power-saving to get that SOT.

lokesh.3440 said:
You have kept your profile at Balance or power-saving to get that SOT.
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Balanced profile with few apps Greenified.

mchauhan said:
Balanced profile with few apps Greenified.
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Does the stock ROM allow Greenify? I'm trying to judge whether the TYPICAL user on STOCK settings can expect 7 or more hours of screen on time without having to hack the phone--the way I get (or would, in theory, if I could ever manage to drain the battery in a day) 7 or more hours with typical usage on my 6 Plus.
To repeat, I'm also wondering if people manage to drain their batteries in a day WITHOUT much gaming. I haven't ever been able to drain the 6 plus in a day (the closest I got was 20 or 25%).
I'm wondering all of this because battery life is the key factor in deciding whether I should buy this device.
Again, I keep autobrightness and location enabled (only a few apps are allowed location access though, and even then only when I'm using them, that's how iOS works).
timmaaa said:
There's a thread for that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2753354
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I appreciate your response but that thread is about battery life generally. I'm asking about battery life in a specific scenario outline in my OP. The criteria are no hacks, autobrightness and location enabled, stock ROM, not much gaming (not more than an hour), and use off a variety of apps but PRIMARILY Facebook and Chrome.

.psd said:
Does the stock ROM allow Greenify? I'm trying to judge whether the TYPICAL user on STOCK settings can expect 7 or more hours of screen on time without having to hack the phone--the way I get (or would, in theory, if I could ever manage to drain the battery in a day) 7 or more hours with typical usage on my 6 Plus.
To repeat, I'm also wondering if people manage to drain their batteries in a day WITHOUT much gaming. I haven't ever been able to drain the 6 plus in a day (the closest I got was 20 or 25%).
I'm wondering all of this because battery life is the key factor in deciding whether I should buy this device.
Again, I keep autobrightness and location enabled (only a few apps are allowed location access though, and even then only when I'm using them, that's how iOS works).
I appreciate your response but that thread is about battery life generally. I'm asking about battery life in a specific scenario outline in my OP. The criteria are no hacks, autobrightness and location enabled, stock ROM, not much gaming (not more than an hour), and use off a variety of apps but PRIMARILY Facebook and Chrome.
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Greenify is not a "Hack", it's an app. It even works fine without Root if you have issue with rooting. OPO's stock ROM allows so much without rooting, even lowering CPU's frequency. It's CM
As I mentioned, with 2 hours of gaming I could get 6 hours of SOT. I also use Auto brightness, Location, Facebook, twitter, Google+. I have seen few people getting 8 hours of SOT without gaming. It's best to go through the thread mentioned in above post and see different people's comments.
OPO and MI4 have the best battery life amongst all the android phones I have used. However it should not be compared with Apple's phones since both uses different ecosystem/OS and belongs to different, very lower price brackets then apple's phones.

mchauhan said:
Greenify is not a "Hack", it's an app. It even works fine without Root if you have issue with rooting. OPO's stock ROM allows so much without rooting, even lowering CPU's frequency. It's CM
As I mentioned, with 2 hours of gaming I could get 6 hours of SOT. I also use Auto brightness, Location, Facebook, twitter, Google+. I have seen few people getting 8 hours of SOT without gaming. It's best to go through the thread mentioned in above post and see different people's comments.
OPO and MI4 have the best battery life amongst all the android phones I have used. However it should not be compared with Apple's phones since both uses different ecosystem/OS and belongs to different, very lower price brackets then apple's phones.
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OK cool, thanks for the clarification! I'll poke around the thread a bit, but I just wanted to mention that my thread is a little different. I've been messing with Android for 5 years and the battery threads are always a mess, so I thought I'd post a very specific sort of question.

.psd said:
I appreciate your response but that thread is about battery life generally. I'm asking about battery life in a specific scenario outline in my OP. The criteria are no hacks, autobrightness and location enabled, stock ROM, not much gaming (not more than an hour), and use off a variety of apps but PRIMARILY Facebook and Chrome.
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I provided that link because many of the posts in there include their usage profile along with their stats, so you can get an idea. But, realistically there's only one way for you to actually find out how your own usage is going to affect the battery drain on one of these devices, and that's by testing it yourself. Giving a guy the same phone with the same exact settings and having him use it exactly the same way can still yield very different results. You can compare all you like but it's pretty pointless. You should have no problems with battery life, the capacity of the battery coupled with the power sipping Snapdragon 801 are an excellent combination.
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.psd said:
I have the 6 Plus and am considering getting the OPO. Battery life is a HUGE deal to me. I want to give a reference so you guys can make a judgment about expectations:
I always use autobrightness, always have consistently decent LTE connectivity, and I'm not connected to wifi at work (8hrs/day mon-fri). I browse FB and Chrome intermittently during work, and for an hour beore and an hour after work during my ride I also use Youtube and Google Music. This trip will usually drain 10-12% battery. On weekends, I use the phone even more. A typical day may include a game or two of Vainglory, a 6-player online graphically demanding 3D game that consistently drains 10% per 40min match over LTE.
This is the only phone that I've never been able to drain the battery in a day no matter what I do; I've never even ended a day below 25%. Of course, iOS doesn't measure screen on time, but I would guesstimate that if I ever did manage to drain the battery completely, it would die after at least 7 hours of screen on time.
So I'm wondering, is your TYPICAL screen on time similar, in a scenario with the stock ROM, autobrightness enabled, and using a range of apps but primarily using facebook and chrome and not much gaming? Is it reasonable to expect 7 hours? Like I said, the 6 Plus is the only phone that I've never, NEVER, not even once managed to drain the battery in a single day—are you guys able to drain the OPO battery in a day without a lot of gaming?
Tl;dr: is it reasonable to expect to TYPICALLY get 7 or more hours screen on time (in other words, NEVER be able to drain the battery on a normal day) under the following conditions:
- stock ROM no hacks
- autobrightness and location enabled
- consistent LTE connectivity
- not much gaming (not more than an hour)
- use off a variety of apps but PRIMARILY Facebook and Chrome, and some YouTube and Google Music
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The gamin will ding ya down to that 7 hour mark. I'll carry my phone for all day and charge it once a night. Longest use was 25 hours of carry time and screen on time intermittent. CM12 drains battery a bit more and I game more often but still go from 6 AM until around 10 PM with 7-8 hours screen time and by the end of the day I'm at 12%. I say go for it even if you don't like it resale value is insane on the OPO. I love mine!

NJMevec said:
The gamin will ding ya down to that 7 hour mark. I'll carry my phone for all day and charge it once a night. Longest use was 25 hours of carry time and screen on time intermittent. CM12 drains battery a bit more and I game more often but still go from 6 AM until around 10 PM with 7-8 hours screen time and by the end of the day I'm at 12%. I say go for it even if you don't like it resale value is insane on the OPO. I love mine!
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I pulled the trigger on a Swappa listing a few minutes ago. Really crossing my fingers for good battery life, especially on the forthcoming CM12s since the reason I bought this was to have a stock(ish) Lollipop device that can compete with my 6 Plus.

1+1 Has best battery life.

.psd said:
I pulled the trigger on a Swappa listing a few minutes ago. Really crossing my fingers for good battery life, especially on the forthcoming CM12s since the reason I bought this was to have a stock(ish) Lollipop device that can compete with my 6 Plus.
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Unfortunately there will be no CM12S because Cyanogenmod is a bit of a prick and after promising OnePlus super swagtastic OS updates they went "Um about that nah this company in India is with us now and we gotta leave you, and oh btw the OPO is banned for sale in India". So you have to stick with the CM12 that you can get on any other phone. Sadface. Still works like a charm I love mine and it's on the latest CM12

NJMevec said:
Unfortunately there will be no CM12S because Cyanogenmod is a bit of a prick and after promising OnePlus super swagtastic OS updates they went "Um about that nah this company in India is with us now and we gotta leave you, and oh btw the OPO is banned for sale in India". So you have to stick with the CM12 that you can get on any other phone. Sadface. Still works like a charm I love mine and it's on the latest CM12
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Ugh. Really? Another one of these? We are getting CM12S. Confirmed by Steve Kondik himself. So sick of setting this false garbage being proliferated all the time. Only India is missing out on official CM12S.
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timmaaa said:
Ugh. Really? Another one of these? We are getting CM12S. Confirmed by Steve Kondik himself. So sick of setting this false garbage being proliferated all the time. Only India is missing out on official CM12S.
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Ah. I stand corrected! I assumed due to OxygenOS, CM12 (sans S), and the extreme awkwardness between CM and OP would have caused no CM12S. Good news to hear and a good thing to be wrong about!! :good:

NJMevec said:
Ah. I stand corrected! I assumed due to OxygenOS, CM12 (sans S), and the extreme awkwardness between CM and OP would have caused no CM12S. Good news to hear and a good thing to be wrong about!! :good:
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It's definitely a sticky situation. OxygenOS was always going to be developed by OnePlus, just as an option (much like the KitKat aosp ROM they developed), bit since the whole India mess they actually need OxygenOS to deliver to the India market. We're in the process of receiving the last CM11S build as we speak and then they'll give us CM12S.
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timmaaa said:
It's definitely a sticky situation. OxygenOS was always going to be developed by OnePlus, just as an option (much like the KitKat aosp ROM they developed), bit since the whole India mess they actually need OxygenOS to deliver to the India market. We're in the process of receiving the last CM11S build as we speak and then they'll give us CM12S.
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It's off topic but you seem knowledgeable on the topic so I have to ask. Do you have any links to official comments on the release timeframe for CM12s? I want to read about it.

.psd said:
It's off topic but you seem knowledgeable on the topic so I have to ask. Do you have any links to official comments on the release timeframe for CM12s? I want to read about it.
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I don't have any links, but there was an interview that Steve Kondik did with one of the major Android sites, plus some comments of his on his G+ page.

Currently undergoing QA stage for release
Source: https://twitter.com/cyngn/status/561679381492269056

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Oneplus One

A question about Pixel 1 Camera and other Misc Questions

Hello,
I have a question.
I have a one plus 5, and I am not exactly satisfied with the camera or the software experience
I have a few questions as I am planning to get a pixel 1
Is there a chance that pixel 2 camera bokeh will be ported to pixel 1
except the portrait mode am I getting an upgrade?
will the pixel 1 give me a whole day's usage easily?
3-4 SOT?
Are there any shortcomings about pixel 1 that fellow pixel users can give me?
It would really helpful if someone could give me their opinion
Thanks a Ton,
Arjun

infomedia0 said:
Hello,
I have a question.
I have a one plus 5, and I am not exactly satisfied with the camera or the software experience
I have a few questions as I am planning to get a pixel 1
Is there a chance that pixel 2 camera bokeh will be ported to pixel 1
except the portrait mode am I getting an upgrade?
will the pixel 1 give me a whole day's usage easily?
3-4 SOT?
Are there any shortcomings about pixel 1 that fellow pixel users can give me?
It would really helpful if someone could give me their opinion
Thanks a Ton,
Arjun
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1. The Pixel 1 camera already has it's own bokeh effect called Lens Blur. It's very good when used right and you can adjust the blur as needed. It could do with some little imporovements but overall it performs well.
2. I've never used the OP5 camera, and online pics don't always do justice, so I can't answer on that front.
3. The battery life on this isn't as impressive as most people say, but it just does enough. I'll usually just scrape about 3h SOT each day, and I do sometimes found myself needing some juice towards the middle of my day (from 6AM to 9PM, ar around three I'll be from 20% to 50%). Mind you, I'm checking emails, scrolling through Instagram and checking stories on snapchat, so your mileage may be way different from mine.
4. I can't think of any other short comings for this device, other than the battery. You'll definitely be satisfied with it, the Pixel is a solid device. The problems people complain with (mic and speaker not working, weird lines across the screen, etc.) are relatively isolated and if somehow you do encounter those issues, Google has an excellent policy on swapping your pixel for a new one.

@infomedia0
I can't say anything about the OP5 it's camera or software... but I've had my pixel 1 since launch and it's a great device. it seems like the software has also been improving with each new android release.... I've used the pixel 2, but I personally didn't find it's added features / chip upgrade to be a big enough upgrade for me (it uses the same chip/SOC as your op5; msm8998)... so just an FYI, u would be downgrading, in terms of HW.
I think battery life is dependent on how you use and also how u setup your phone. my experience has been quite different than the above response from @B0RD34UX ... he may think because he is only getting 3hrs of SOT that other people's experiences are invalid; but if I was only getting 3hrs of battery life checking email and skimming through Instagram, I'd be dissapointed...
you can do a lot to optimize and extend battery life; the biggest being; making sure no apps are running in the background causing drain... also using a custom kernel, if ur into that sort of thing...
for me; any less than 5hrs of SOT on the Pixel with moderate use (mix of light apps and heavy ones) would be unacceptable... I use my own kernel and for my typical day; I get at least 5hrs, usually 6hrs... on stock kernel, I would expect less, but 3hrs seems very low, like @B0RD34UX has an app or two excessively draining his battery.

nine7nine said:
@infomedia0
I can't say anything about the OP5 it's camera or software... but I've had my pixel 1 since launch and it's a great device. it seems like the software has also been improving with each new android release.... I've used the pixel 2, but I personally didn't find it's added features / chip upgrade to be a big enough upgrade for me (it uses the same chip/SOC as your op5; msm8998)... so just an FYI, u would be downgrading, in terms of HW.
I think battery life is dependent on how you use and also how u setup your phone. my experience has been quite different than the above response from @B0RD34UX ... he may think because he is only getting 3hrs of SOT that other people's experiences are invalid; but if I was only getting 3hrs of battery life checking email and skimming through Instagram, I'd be dissapointed...
you can do a lot to optimize and extend battery life; the biggest being; making sure no apps are running in the background causing drain... also using a custom kernel, if ur into that sort of thing...
for me; any less than 5hrs of SOT on the Pixel with moderate use (mix of light apps and heavy ones) would be unacceptable... I use my own kernel and for my typical day; I get at least 5hrs, usually 6hrs... on stock kernel, I would expect less, but 3hrs seems very low, like @B0RD34UX has an app or two excessively draining his battery.
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Since the day I got the pixel I've only gotten up to 3hrs SOT, even the first day before I installed my apps. Judging by other reviews on this forum, my battery life is definitely not the norm, which I should've highlighted in my previous response. I've exhausted all avenues at this point to figure out how you guys are getting 5hrs+ of SOT, to no avail. I just carry my charger with me at all times and deal with it. Is it annoying? Yes. But I've already returned two Pixels to Google and each had the same problem, so I'll just live with it.

B0RD34UX said:
Since the day I got the pixel I've only gotten up to 3hrs SOT, even the first day before I installed my apps. Judging by other reviews on this forum, my battery life is definitely not the norm, which I should've highlighted in my previous response. I've exhausted all avenues at this point to figure out how you guys are getting 5hrs+ of SOT, to no avail. I just carry my charger with me at all times and deal with it. Is it annoying? Yes. But I've already returned two Pixels to Google and each had the same problem, so I'll just live with it.
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I only piped in on your comment because that's not the norm. 5+ hrs may not be either; as people like myself may be running custom kernels and actively making sure that no app is causing battery drain, etc.... I do think that something on your device is causing drain, I'd be going through settings/battery and see what apps are using battery most and stop them from running in the background...
this is an estimate, but fairly accurate on the SOT I'm getting on my own kernel in 8.1:
5-6hrs is typical moderate use. light use, I get more.

I get about 3-4 hours SOT with around 20 hours standby. It's so difficult to compare people's usage side by side as the number of factors are nearly infinite.
From what I'd read in reviews before buying the device, most say the battery is average to good. And I think that's a fair assessment.

Thank you, everyone, for your opinions,
I ended up buying it today.
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