Looks like there isn't a thread on this yet, and now that I, and many others, have the OTA up and running, I thought it would be good to compare notes.
I don't have anything meaningful to say right now as I've been too busy playing with the new rom to note when I installed, what percentage the battery was at when I did so, and so on.
However, I've had a nexus s for a long time and I am a serial rom flasher, and you get an impression pretty quick of how quick the battery is going down - I'm sure you all know what I am saying.
Seems to me that my battery is going down quick. I won't know for sure until I actually go to work on Monday. Then I will wake up in the morning with 100% charge and all will become clear as the day goes on.
But the rest of you must be getting some impression of battery life by now - so what do you think??
ps - Liking this rom. All desire to buy a galaxy nexus has evaporated for the moment, which is really good as that is one expensive phone
It's not great. Seems like Mediaserver is the biggest culprit for my drain. Even though I dont listen to music for long periods of time. Seems like maybe it's got a runaway process or something.
It's hard to say at this point, though.
I reckon my battery is going down really fast. was going to vote - but just discovered you can't vote on your own poll. What a pisser
<<edit>> you can vote on your own poll. i wasn't logged in..................
It's really hard to judge this early since the update just came yesterday. Also some may think their battery life is poor but maybe since the update we've all been playing with our phones more?
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It's really hard to judge this early since the update just came yesterday. Also some may think their battery life is poor but maybe since the update we've all been playing with our phones more?
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No, it's been confirmed on other phones too. Even Galaxy Nexus users are experiencing it. The problem seems to lie in something that's not letting the phone sleep. If you break down the usage of Android OS, "Keep Awake" runs for WAY too long, which keeps the phone constantly awake and draining battery.
nickmv said:
No, it's been confirmed on other phones too. Even Galaxy Nexus users are experiencing it. The problem seems to lie in something that's not letting the phone sleep. If you break down the usage of Android OS, "Keep Awake" runs for WAY too long, which keeps the phone constantly awake and draining battery.
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Yeah, I just noticed something, that might be relevant. Went into wi-fi settings. Options have changed a bit and so has default setting.
New options are like this................
Question asked is, "Keep wi-fi on during sleep".
On GB the default answer would have been no - only have wi-fi on when screen is on.
The other options are to have wi-fi on, "only when plugged in", or "never".
Mine was set to "always". First time I had been into this menu so looks like that is default, and that has got to burn the battery up. I've now set it to, "only when plugged in".
So, will see what difference it makes, and post back.
To Be Honest I'm Getting Better Battery Life Than When I Was On The Latest Kang.
nickmv said:
No, it's been confirmed on other phones too. Even Galaxy Nexus users are experiencing it. The problem seems to lie in something that's not letting the phone sleep. If you break down the usage of Android OS, "Keep Awake" runs for WAY too long, which keeps the phone constantly awake and draining battery.
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I thought this thread what asking the battery life from GB to ICS.
How can Galaxy Nexus users judge if their battery life is worse? Worse compared to what? They only had ICS to begin with.
Frankly, I've been using the ICS Alpha's for about two weeks and now been using the official OTA ROM for a few hours and it has been the same battery drain.
I have no opinion on ICS vs GB battery drain if that what this thread is asking.
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I thought this thread what asking the battery life from GB to ICS.
How can Galaxy Nexus users judge if their battery life is worse? Worse compared to what? They only had ICS to begin with.
Frankly, I've been using the ICS Alpha's for about two weeks and now been using the official OTA ROM for a few hours and it has been the same battery drain.
I have no opinion on ICS vs GB battery drain if that what this thread is asking.
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This thread is asking, "Has your battery life gone to rat-sh1t or is it still like it was - I suppose
buachaille said:
Yeah, I just noticed something, that might be relevant. Went into wi-fi settings. Options have changed a bit and so has default setting.
New options are like this................
Question asked is, "Keep wi-fi on during sleep".
On GB the default answer would have been no - only have wi-fi on when screen is on.
The other options are to have wi-fi on, "only when plugged in", or "never".
Mine was set to "always". First time I had been into this menu so looks like that is default, and that has got to burn the battery up. I've now set it to, "only when plugged in".
So, will see what difference it makes, and post back.
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Actually, I've read that WiFi uses much less power than a cellular network - because of the shorter range. So if you're constantly using background data, having WiFi enabled can actually make the battery last longer.
So far, 'Android OS' is winning handily at destroying my battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20410020&postcount=129
I'll keep an eye on it and see if it continues.
Confirmed. This is a real battery killer it seems. My battery has been massacred!
LOL i like all of the poll choices...
now back on topic
i think what you guys are seeing is just the good old "new device effect" all over again
if you haven't notice everyone with a new phone always complain about battery problem
that's because it's so sweet you can't put it down, and you are constantly using it
since the screen eats up the more juice, you can hardly refill it fast enough
it just the only difference in this case we don't have a new hardware but we do have a new OS, which makes it all sweet brand new renewed all over again
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LOL i like all of the poll choices...
now back on topic
i think what you guys are seeing is just the good old "new device effect" all over again
if you haven't notice everyone with a new phone always complain about battery problem
that's because it's so sweet you can't put it down, and you are constantly using it
since the screen eats up the more juice, you can hardly refill it fast enough
it just the only difference in this case we don't have a new hardware but we do have a new OS, which makes it all sweet brand new renewed all over again
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In words of yours wisdom there may be. Time and space change and shift must - then made can a judgement be!
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I would be very interested to see if google roll out a future update to maybe throttle back android os's use of battery because it is either a bug in ICS or else they have just lumped more processes under the android os title in the battery menu and that's why it is so high.
I can confirm 'Android OS' has mostly more battery usage than sleep mode isnce ICS (ported versions or that one day OTA). Anyway i didn't use my phone today cuz i have left it home. But what can you say after one day.
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I can confirm 'Android OS' has mostly more battery usage than sleep mode isnce ICS (ported versions or that one day OTA). Anyway i didn't use my phone today cuz i have left it home. But what can you say after one day.
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This is the kind of feeling I get when i get a good flash
It's the real thing!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gna8GzfOa8I
You - will never let - it slip away
or how about this - this is how you feel when you flash a rom you think has everything you think you want, but then you discover it doesn't have all that **** after all.....
You want it all but you can't have it..............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_QgWLUGDrk&feature=related
I'm also having the same issue where the "Android OS" is the one using most of my battery life :-/
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From me to you ios
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So I have had the OTA upgrade on my phone for the past few days and the battery life has gotten unbelievably bad. I'm so confused because it seems to have helped a lot of peoples batteries. I have not changed any habits at all and can barely get through the morning. I'm losing 20% just on the 25 minute train ride to work.
Any ideas?
I'm on the same boat as you I hope we can get a helpful answer.
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Still no improvement. There have to be more than just 2 people that have experienced something this drastic. I have made absolutely NO changes other than the update and the battery life is absolutely pathetic --- like 3-4 hours pathetic.
And no I have nothing synching.
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Still no improvement. There have to be more than just 2 people that have experienced something this drastic. I have made absolutely NO changes other than the update and the battery life is absolutely pathetic --- like 3-4 hours pathetic.
And no I have nothing synching.
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That isn't good at all...may I suggest an extended battery? This is my battery stats for today thus far. I have a chichitec battery. I have 13 widgets, 3 email accounts, and a twitter account syncing every couple of hours.
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Still no improvement. There have to be more than just 2 people that have experienced something this drastic. I have made absolutely NO changes other than the update and the battery life is absolutely pathetic --- like 3-4 hours pathetic.
And no I have nothing synching.
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I'm no expert, but perhaps it'd be worth installing an app that monitors CPU usage. I remember having such battery problems with the Desire HD and it came down the the CPU constantly running at 100%. Perhaps you have an app that took a dislike to the update?
Just a thought...
Craig.
This is my situation also. Battery is the worse battery of any smartphone I've owned, since the update. No root, nothing. I'm either too lazy or not savvy enough to pinpoint this down, as far as apps, what is syncing, how often, blah blah. All I know is I am using it as little as possible b/c of the battery. I have had it 8 days, and REALLY need to call Cust Serv asap so I can get a replacement and see what happens, but I just don't want to go through the hassle of them trying to troubleshoot the phone. I'm also experiencing the HTC Sense reloading when exiting out of apps, and a few other small bugs/glitches, like web pages jumping/skipping around when I am scrolling through them. Sorry to unload on this thread I know it's about battery...
Same problem, but my battery get way way way too hot. All that energy loss getting hot is killing my battery. It gets up to 50+ degrees C. Way to hot and ever since using these 2.3.4 ROMs.
Try calibrating the battery.
You guys also might have gotten a bad battery. I'm pretty sure if you call HTC they'll send you one free if you tell them the battery overheats.
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You guys also might have gotten a bad battery. I'm pretty sure if you call HTC they'll send you one free if you tell them the battery overheats.
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This would make perfect sense if I didn't have my phone from the initial launch day at Walmart and the battery had been great for me UNTIL the upgrade. It's not the battery's fault.
And yes, I have recalibrated. And no, synching is not the issue since everything is the same from prior to the upgrade.
Actually you do need to recalibrate the battery. I had really bad battery life after the ota upgrade, spare parts app and wiping battery stats and now much better battery life than before ota. I have 64% at the moment, unplugged at 7:30am. I used to get 8 hours to a charge right after ota
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Before the Update, my battery life was great, except that occasionally I'd wake my phone up to a Battery meter showing a big grey !, instead of the color-coded indicator. A quick glance online said there was something possibly wrong with the battery, or that it was an unsupported 3rd-party battery
After the update, the battery will suddenly decide its ~70% lower than it was several minutes before, and shut itself down. I had to take the battery out, then put it back in, before the phone would recognize that the battery was actually still mostly charged.
The warning symbol mentioned above was infrequent enough, I could believe it wasn't noticed by everyone having these troubles. I think there's simply something wrong with the batteries, but since the 2.3.4 update, the phone treats the problem differently
kponti said:
Actually you do need to recalibrate the battery. I had really bad battery life after the ota upgrade, spare parts app and wiping battery stats and now much better battery life than before ota. I have 64% at the moment, unplugged at 7:30am. I used to get 8 hours to a charge right after ota
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How did you use "Spare parts"? I downloaded it and I can't find where to wipe the battery stats. I pick battery history and it tells me I'm using gingerbread ROM which does not contain battery stats reporting activity.
An app could be playing up. I know it's annoying but you could try a factory reset and reinstall everything from scratch. I find this helps tame apps that misbehave.
If your phone was fine prior to the update it's unlikely its a battery/hardware issue.
lianw said:
Try calibrating the battery.
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+1, your battery stats got wiped from the update, so you need to do a few complete charge to 0%'s.
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rosedog said:
How did you use "Spare parts"? I downloaded it and I can't find where to wipe the battery stats. I pick battery history and it tells me I'm using gingerbread ROM which does not contain battery stats reporting activity.
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If I remember correctly from my n1,, spare parts was for rooted phones
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Add me to the list of people whose battery life died after the upgrade. I even tired a factory reset over the weekend to no avail. I also tried switching batteries from another Sensation that I have which wasn't being used but no luck there either. In my mind it definitely is a software issue. And to think I used to brag about this phone's battery life!
I just need to root this thing and move on. Was hoping the HTC root process would come out soon. The instructions make rooting HTC's seem more complicated than my Samsung Vibrant which was pretty simple.
How do you calibrate the battery? lawl
If you're rooted, you can download an app called Battery Calibration that will help with calibrating the battery.
Otherwise, basically run your phone up to 100%, then drain it down to 0 until it shuts off, then recharge it back to 100%. Do this several times over the course of a few days and it should be calibrated.
Been experiencing the same thing. Finally got around to checking wakelock, and found that HTC sense had wakelocked the phone for 9 hours (the awake bar in system settings was solid). Some quick googling suggests that in certain cases, the HTC Sense sync can do this, so our common denominator may be that we all have a sense account set up.
I've disabled sense in my accounts, and killed the sense service. We'll see if that "fixes" it.
Hi, can anyone help me solve this problem. I'm getting poor battery life from my Nexus S (stock 4.0.4) & android OS using a lot of battery. I've narrowed it down to WiFI - when I turn WiFi on, the battery depletes much faster than when I'm on 3G & android OS goes from ~7% to ~20% in battery stats. This is the opposite way around from what I would expect based on other posts, which say that WiFi uses less power than 3G. You can see the effect in the screenshot - for the entire time on this screenshot, I was at work with good 3G coverage & the WiFi point is right outside my office:
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I agree with you, stock 4.0.4, Matr1x kernel (but I get same results with Air kernel too) and wifi always on = poor battery life.
My workaround is keeping it off and switching it on only just before an autosync or when opening browser/Gmail (I do that with Tasker)
When WiFi is in use what are you doing?
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When WiFi is in use what are you doing?
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Essentially nothing. I checked the odd email, but for the most part the phone was in my pocket doing nothing.
have you got a background service that only runs on wifi?
also, in my experience, 3g only uses more battery when you're actually receiving data (e.g. browsing, data sync).
to me your battery stats don't look that bad, so my theory is that because you don't use your phone that much, anything that uses just a little bit of battery makes a big difference in battery use percentage.
but then again, I could be completely wrong...
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Aktifit said:
have you got a background service that only runs on wifi?
also, in my experience, 3g only uses more battery when you're actually receiving data (e.g. browsing, data sync).
to me your battery stats don't look that bad, so my theory is that because you don't use your phone that much, anything that uses just a little bit of battery makes a big difference in battery use percentage.
but then again, I could be completely wrong...
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Well one thign is for sure battery will always die faster on the network because most of the time if your in bad service areas it trys to fight for service therefore shi**ier battery life.
But @ Richstant do you disable mobile data manually like. For example because my NS4G is just deactivated on my Epic 4G i manually disable data and re enable when i use something so i save battery life.
I switched my sleep policy to while plugged in now. The difference with just switching the wifi on and off is really insane for me.
The way WiFi works while screen is off is hopeless on the Nexus S. I think it may be exagerrated because of the guzzling hardware as it seems no different on the GN or SGS3, though they dont drain nearly as much (i thought otherwise at first, unsure if it's on a phone-by-phone basis though). WiFi likes to stay on even if you set sleep policy otherwise - look at it funny and it will stay on and drain. This is something that i hope will improve in JB, but i doubt it. For now, best bet is set to Never (or plugged in, same effect) and switch it off manually if you won't be using it for long periods of time.
WiFi uses less power for large amounts of data and even browsing. It's faster, it doesn't need to send extra power and there is less thrashing to find the best signal. Data, however, is technically always there anyway as the radio is always powered, so if it only needs small amounts of constant data, it is often better for battery if you have good reception. This is one thing we i don't think we'll be worried about in newer phones, thankfully.
XxLostSoulxX said:
Well one thign is for sure battery will always die faster on the network because most of the time if your in bad service areas it trys to fight for service therefore shi**ier battery life.
But @ Richstant do you disable mobile data manually like. For example because my NS4G is just deactivated on my Epic 4G i manually disable data and re enable when i use something so i save battery life.
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Reception is good, mobile data is on all the time.
ykphuah said:
I switched my sleep policy to while plugged in now. The difference with just switching the wifi on and off is really insane for me.
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I'd forgotten about that setting, I'll try it now. In the past it's not worked for me though - the WiFi just stays on all the time no matter what.
Harbb said:
The way WiFi works while screen is off is hopeless on the Nexus S. I think it may be exagerrated because of the guzzling hardware as it seems no different on the GN or SGS3, though they dont drain nearly as much (i thought otherwise at first, unsure if it's on a phone-by-phone basis though). WiFi likes to stay on even if you set sleep policy otherwise - look at it funny and it will stay on and drain. This is something that i hope will improve in JB, but i doubt it. For now, best bet is set to Never (or plugged in, same effect) and switch it off manually if you won't be using it for long periods of time.
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Thanks for the info - sounds like it might be just the way this handset is :-( I don't remember it being this way under gingerbread, the WiFi turned off properly when it slept then, and battery life was much better.
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Reception is good, mobile data is on all the time.
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I'd still disable the mobile data even regardless of how good the reception is it'll still save you more juice in the long end
You don't have any apps set to auto-upload or backup anything (e.g. Dropbox Camera Uploads, G+ Instant Upload) once it connects to Wifi do you?
Harbb said:
The way WiFi works while screen is off is hopeless on the Nexus S. I think it may be exagerrated because of the guzzling hardware as it seems no different on the GN or SGS3, though they dont drain nearly as much (i thought otherwise at first, unsure if it's on a phone-by-phone basis though). WiFi likes to stay on even if you set sleep policy otherwise - look at it funny and it will stay on and drain. This is something that i hope will improve in JB, but i doubt it. For now, best bet is set to Never (or plugged in, same effect) and switch it off manually if you won't be using it for long periods of time.
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Hmm, that option worked fine for me, when I unlock the phone, there's a 1-2 second delay before the wifi icon comes up, if I am not plugged in, that is.
I have latitude on all the time, I am suspecting that latitude is the one that causes my battery drain WHILE wifi is on, since there's just too much wifi hotspots around here, and if latitude is triggered everytime there's a new wifi hotspot discovered, then it will have a lot of updating to do. Using the sleep mode doesn't cut down the number of wakelocks (reported by BetteryBatteryStats) that those LocationServices triggers however, but battery life does seemed to be saved, especially on the days where I rarely use my phone.
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You don't have any apps set to auto-upload or backup anything (e.g. Dropbox Camera Uploads, G+ Instant Upload) once it connects to Wifi do you?
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I would look at this also. If there is an app that has some connection with wifi (i think this would be done through intents but i'm not very familiar), it may either keep wifi on or awaken it from sleep periodically (where it looks like other apps/features take over and continue using it instead of shutting it off immediately). Maps and something from Android OS or Android System seem to be main culprits if the battery page is to be believed. BetterBatteryStats can help, but haven't gained that much information in regard to wifi - though is priceless in most other areas.
Edit: Didn't see the last post (got distracted lol). That could be it. Note that in BBS you should also look at the number of wakeups, not just the time wakelocked. Obviously you can rack up a lot of wakeup attempts and still show only 1s of actual wakelock, but it adds up immensely from there - particularly when some other apps are triggered because they are notified wifi is temporarily "active" when it shouldn't be. Also, these are my experiences and not coding fact, so take them with a grain of salt and listen to those wiser than I
Well I'm pleased to say I got a serious improvement in battery life by setting wifi to off when not in use (except when charging). I tried that under 4.0.3 & it didn't work, but it seems to work correctly under 4.0.4.
wow, I didn't even know there was a "wifi on during sleep only when plugged in" option. I knew juice defender and other similar apps did something like that, but didn't know it was built into ICS (or CM9 )
thanked for the tip
something that ive been always been wondering..
every time i get a new phone i seem to have bad luck with them when it comes to battery..(optimus 4x, nexus 4, nexus 5) i always see reviews and comments saying they get X screen on time and i always get X-2 screen on time and poor standby time
ive tried everything, changing roms, kernels, checking wakelocks turning wifi or 3g off when not used(LTE always off)
the most i ever seem to get is 3 hours and thats a really good day on low performance(underclocked) and i also barely game..
how in the hell do people get 5 hours screen time and complain about it.. meaning that they actually get more! and they say they game and browse alot.. im not only comparing to people online, i also compare with my friends who get good battery.. we dont seem to be doing anything different
does anyone know the problem/solution to this?!
I really recommend to go on stock firmware and DON'T install/restore any of ur apps.
Then see what's up.
CHEERS
It's all about looking at what is using your battery and mitigating as many of them as you can. Some people might find they can't live without many features of a phone and so will generally get less time then someone who is willing to sacrifice certain features or adjust their usage to improve battery time.
Sharing your full setup could help us help you... ROM, kernel and kernel settings, apps installed, tweaks made, wakelocks you're having, etc.
Personally, I'm coming to the N5 from the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and I've been astounded with the battery life of this phone. It's the first time in over a year, that I don't feel the burning need to carry a charger with me everywhere I go. Additionally, this is the first device that's made me seriously consider NOT rooting.
As of this moment, I'm running rooted stock firmware, with Faux kernel 008m, and I'm getting spectacular results! I'd love to help you work this out.
As a point of comparison, this is a battery life readout I took two days ago... I can't complain at all about nearly 27 hours of uptime, with 4 hours SOT.
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This is on T-Mobile LTE the entire time, GPS on, moderate usage, and only useless apps (for me at least) frozen, including the GEL launcher, the stock news app, Google Earth, the stock email app, and the non-English keyboards...that's it.
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Hannibal226 said:
I really recommend to go on stock firmware and DON'T install/restore any of ur apps.
Then see what's up.
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what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps
jjhiza said:
Sharing your full setup could help us help you... ROM, kernel and kernel settings, apps installed, tweaks made, wakelocks you're having, etc.
Personally, I'm coming to the N5 from the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and I've been astounded with the battery life of this phone. It's the first time in over a year, that I don't feel the burning need to carry a charger with me everywhere I go. Additionally, this is the first device that's made me seriously consider NOT rooting.
As of this moment, I'm running rooted stock firmware, with Faux kernel 008m, and I'm getting spectacular results! I'd love to help you work this out.
As a point of comparison, this is a battery life readout I took two days ago... I can't complain at all about nearly 27 hours of uptime, with 4 hours SOT.
This is on T-Mobile LTE the entire time, GPS on, moderate usage, and only useless apps (for me at least) frozen, including the GEL launcher, the stock news app, Google Earth, the stock email app, and the non-English keyboards...that's it.
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ive tried almost every rom-kernel combination there could possibly be all resulting the same.. my stock had OK-ish battery life but still not great
im on 100% now charging so theres nothing to upload and my wakelocks show nothing just maps.. and i forgot to mention that i usually turn off location as well.. i have no problem changing to stock but most people get good battery life with roms too..i dont mind which kernel either cause every kernel will be really fast with the snapdragon 800
current rom liquid smooth
kernel - just upgraded to faux an hour ago.. phone is heating and percentage dropping fast(not that the previous ones were great)
no tweaks
kernel settings
fast fast charge, eco mode and intelliplug- all on
300000-2265600 frequency
and ondemand governer
namnam123 said:
ive tried almost every rom-kernel combination there could possibly be all resulting the same.. my stock had OK-ish battery life but still not great
im on 100% now charging so theres nothing to upload and my wakelocks show nothing just maps.. and i forgot to mention that i usually turn off location as well.. i have no problem changing to stock but most people get good battery life with roms too..i dont mind which kernel either cause every kernel will be really fast with the snapdragon 800
current rom liquid smooth
kernel - just upgraded to faux an hour ago.. phone is heating and percentage dropping fast(not that the previous ones were great)
no tweaks
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fast fast charge, eco mode and intelliplug- all on
300000-2265600 frequency
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I recommend do this on a stock ROM, but can work on any.
Have your phone set up normally. Charge it full, reboot in "safe mode" and don't open any apps. Just let it do its thing for a few hours, or over night. See how the battery life is now. It should improve. If so, you got something 3rd party killing it.
Turn off location reporting and location history. It'll improve your battery life dramatically without making any noticeable impact on the phone's capabilities (including Google Now). I also recommend disabling Google+ if you don't use it.
^Great suggestion!
@namnam123 did you have heat issues with the phone, prior to flashing Liquid or Faux? From my Galaxy Nexus days, I remember heat problems being caused (occasionally) by an improper/nonexistent wipe during flashing. You cleared dalvik and cache at least, correct?
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what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps
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The point is to see if the battery still drains as quickly without any third-party apps or mods. If not, then the problem isn't the phone, but rather something you installed on it. Some apps can run in the background and drain battery power even when you're not using them. Some mods like custom kernels can also worsen battery life.
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what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps
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The point is to see if the battery still drains as quickly without any third-party apps or mods. If not, then the problem isn't the phone, but rather something you installed on it. Some apps can run in the background and drain battery power even when you're not using them. Some mods like custom kernels can also worsen battery life.
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Exactly
jjhiza said:
^Great suggestion!
@namnam123 did you have heat issues with the phone, prior to flashing Liquid or Faux? From my Galaxy Nexus days, I remember heat problems being caused (occasionally) by an improper/nonexistent wipe during flashing. You cleared dalvik and cache at least, correct?
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yes i always wipe the cache and dalvik cache
Make sure wifi scanning is off too. And ages ago usb fast charge used to cause issues with massive battery drain when the screen was on. So turn it off and see if it helps. I am talking years ago tho. It was literally meant to be turned on when plugging in and leaving the phone alone. Then disabled when taking off charge
Also post some screen shots of your battery stats
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Yesterday a post was made to /r/nexus5 on reddit about how battery life was getting worse as time went on. Over 100 people replied saying that their phone was getting worse battery life as well. Here's the link: http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1yxj2g/battery_life_went_from_insane_to_terrible/ The most people were able to find out was that there was a problem with the Android OS process. Are you guys having similar issues? And do you have any fixes?
Batteries do lose their max charge over time. We're now 6 months aged for the first purchased devices, so it could simply be those batteries are starting to age. They still have years to go, but a brand new battery will always be impressive.
It's one reason why I silently laugh at people bragging about great battery life for a brand new device. of course it will get good life, it's a new battery running optimized software that isn't pushing the hardware as hard as the software 2 years into a device life cycle.
posted by people that know nothing..
as time goes on, you install more and more apps. many apps arent coded very well, and have other issues. anyways, people get more and more of these crappy apps that will drain more and more battery without you even using them. anywho, not a problem here. i get pretty much the exact same battery life now as i did months ago.
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Hooya said:
Batteries do lose their max charge over time. We're now 6 months aged for the first purchased devices, so it could simply be those batteries are starting to age. They still have years to go, but a brand new battery will always be impressive.
It's one reason why I silently laugh at people bragging about great battery life for a brand new device. of course it will get good life, it's a new battery running optimized software that isn't pushing the hardware as hard as the software 2 years into a device life cycle.
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great battery life for an "old" device, 5-6 hours screen on time every single day. the batteries life doesnt reduce that quick, and generally youll change phones(within 2 years) before you see the life of your battery shorten.
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Batteries do lose their max charge over time. We're now 6 months aged for the first purchased devices, so it could simply be those batteries are starting to age. They still have years to go, but a brand new battery will always be impressive.
It's one reason why I silently laugh at people bragging about great battery life for a brand new device. of course it will get good life, it's a new battery running optimized software that isn't pushing the hardware as hard as the software 2 years into a device life cycle.
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6 months isn't going to be noticeably less max charge unless the battery was severely abused. Also the phone has been out for 4 months and most are younger.
Here's something to think about: Usage patterns change. People install new apps.
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Indeed usage patterns play a massive part. And some of which can be completely out of your control.
At home on WiFi I'll get 6-7 hours of screen time.
At home on hspa I'll get 5-6
At work on hspa I'll get 3-4
So at worst case scenario I can lose half of my normal battery usage just based on the carrier performance.
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I get about 3-4 hours SoT daily... If anything, that has gone up since I got my device (one of the first batches shipped in US).
I wish I could get 5-7 SoT, with numbers like that, I'm beginning to think I'm doing something very very wrong
Point is... I have one of the first phones shipped out, and my battery life has stayed exactly the same.
High battery usage by Android OS is probably good indication that there are some wakelocks. It has nothing to do with battery being "older".
My battery is great from day one.
Captain obvious mode now:
Posting SoT is pointless and proves nothing. It really depends on what you are doing when screen is on. It is really obvious that it is not the same if you read some book with 5% brightness or play a game.
My SoTs go from 2h up to 7h, depending on usage...
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wake lock is main reason makes battery drains so much. try to use greenify to hibernate apps.
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Tenhi said:
Captain obvious mode now:
Posting SoT is pointless and proves nothing. It really depends on what you are doing when screen is on. It is really obvious that it is not the same if you read some book with 5% brightness or play a game.
My SoTs go from 2h up to 7h, depending on usage...
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LOL. Yep. Give me a day and I'll show you screenies of ten hours of SOT. It'll be BS because to get those results I have to set my phones brightness to less than stock. I also have to set screen timeout to 30 minutes. As well I need to remember to turn the damn screen back on after 30 minutes. I also have to make sure my phone is in my sock drawer doing nothing when the screen is on. It'll still show 10 hours SOT though.
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LOL. Yep. Give me a day and I'll show you screenies of ten hours of SOT. It'll be BS because to get those results I have to set my phones brightness to less than stock. I also have to set screen timeout to 30 minutes. As well I need to remember to turn the damn screen back on after 30 minutes. I also have to make sure my phone is in my sock drawer doing nothing when the screen is on. It'll still show 10 hours SOT though.
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Only 10? Think you could do much higher in those conditions.
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Yesterday a post was made to /r/nexus5 on reddit about how battery life was getting worse as time went on. Over 100 people replied saying that their phone was getting worse battery life as well. Here's the link: http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1yxj2g/battery_life_went_from_insane_to_terrible/ The most people were able to find out was that there was a problem with the Android OS process. Are you guys having similar issues? And do you have any fixes?
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Yeah, the common problem.... My battery just is used for 5 hours.
But there are some fixs to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036
I posted my usual screen times on a typical day for me.
Typically I do the same things which are a lot of xda and viewing the verge and YouTube. A few calls and texts.
And from my experience the difference between being at home with WiFi off and being at work with WiFi off is that my battery usually lasts nearly twice as long at home.
I was trying to get across the message that your carriers signal strength plays a massive role on how long your battery lasts.
So say if a mast went down and you get bumped onto one a bit further away (they don't rush when fixing these things unless it's a critical one). You would have done nothing and all of a sudden your battery life has started taking a massive hit.
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I'm also having this problem with the android os draining my batter And this started happening within the last week or so.I used to be able to easily get about 30 hours out of my phone, now I'm only able to get about half that. As you can see in the 4th pic, android os has been the cause of a 3h45m partial wakelock, which doesnt seem right to me and is probably the cause of most of the battery drain. the last 2 pics are something that also seems weird to me, as google accounts manager shouldnt take 4% in about an hour. I dont even know why its running that long. Though i know how to quick fix the account manager drain (simply disable it) the android os isnt that simple as i dont know how to see exactly what apps or processes are making it cause a partial wakelock.
Im on omnirom using chaos kernel 9.2
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I had a similar issue a while back, and in the end it was Google location reporting within Google now service. Try to switch location reporting off but leave location history on and see if it helps. Also choose Location mode to battery saving.
Turning off location reporting does not affect Google Now functionality...
It can be something else in your case, but this problem was common...
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One thing I've noticed as a weirdness is the cache of a phone can get stale and so it gets into some weird loop that drains battery or something and clearing the cache improves battery life. Also sometimes apps can develop bugs or new wakelocks when you do an update so sometimes you have to stay on top of it to track it.
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One thing I've noticed as a weirdness is the cache of a phone can get stale and so it gets into some weird loop that drains battery or something and clearing the cache improves battery life. Also sometimes apps can develop bugs or new wakelocks when you do an update so sometimes you have to stay on top of it to track it.
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Thanks for the cache thing I have never thought about that before :good:
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If I did not use some preventative measures to prolong battery life I would maybe get 14-16 hours in a day of usage, I always left wifi on, bluetooth even when not connected, data, force LTE, etc. I did not care because I charge my phone every night. I just find it silly if I get a day usage out of my phone and it is at 50% well assuming you use the phone the exact same as the last day you will use another 50% and it will be dead by the time you get to your charger.
My big excitement for 6.0 was Doze and I think many other people felt the same. So I thought I'd post my experience thus far here.
I sideloaded the US 6.0 ROM yesterday around 10AM with 67% left on my phone. At 11PM I had 27% left, usually going that long would have me somewhere around the mid teens at 11PM.
I don't have a lot of screen on time, but when it is on I'm usually playing a game (Hearthstone) or watching a video. My SoT varies between 1.5 to 2.5 hours on a normal day. I have a Moto 360 (2015) that I use for all of my notification checking and such so my phone usually sits on a desk or in a pocket. I leave GPS on high accuracy all the time and am usually running on wifi but stream Google Play music over LTE for about 2 hours while driving throughout the day.
You'd think that using a smartwatch would give me better battery life, but at least with Lollipop my battery life was actually worse when my smartwatch is synced. By about 5%
I am using the 6.0 ROM and cell standby yet again is what is using most battery.
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It shows day and something because inhad it unplugged overnight
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I am using the 6.0 ROM and cell standby yet again is what is using most battery.
It shows day and something because inhad it unplugged overnight
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What's your screen on time? And what are the details of your cell standby?
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What's your screen on time? And what are the details of your cell standby?
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Did you ever consider you need to give the new rom time to settle?
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Did you ever consider you need to give the new rom time to settle?
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Maybe time will tell
Personally, I've never really noticed the settling in of a ROM, as far as battery life is concerned.
As far as the OP, I've also noticed a slight increase in battery life, particularly standby, so it seems doze is working as advertised. I'm going to leave my phone off the charger tonight and see how much juice I lose. It's usually around 10-15%.
I flashed the deodexed debloated rooted MM from the development thread last night, so far battery life is worse than TruePureX LP for me. On TruePureX LP, my idle drain is close to 0%, but now the drain is -10%/hr to -20%/hr... I wonder if the phone is doing the internal memory encryption? (I don't have an sd card inserted). Hopefully it will get better...
Battery drain was worse when I first updated to MM, but today battery use has been great. Much better standby time than lollipop.
Can I just say...my phone was at 100% at 8:50am this morning. Right now (9pm) at 33%. And it promises me it has 7 more hours in it. Coming from a Galaxy S4 where I changed battery halfway through the day, I am beyond impressed. This is better than I expected. At first didn't get into the big Doze hype, but now. Wow.
Nevermind... DERP
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Make sure you go to: Settings/ Apps/ then select the settings icon and then Battery Optimization and change the toggle to All Apps.
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Pretty sure all that does is change the filter. For me, the default was "Not optimized", so it only showed the 3 apps that aren't optimized (DMService, Google Play services, and Motorola Notification). Apparently these 3 apps cannot be optimized since they all say "Battery optimization not available".
Toggling to "All apps" just switches the filter to show (you guessed it) all apps.
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Pretty sure all that does is change the filter. For me, the default was "Not optimized", so it only showed the 3 apps that aren't optimized (DMService, Google Play services, and Motorola Notification). Apparently these 3 apps cannot be optimized since they all say "Battery optimization not available".
Toggling to "All apps" just switches the filter to show (you guessed it) all apps.
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hahaha... that's hilarious. Derp!
Here is an update I turned off scanning in location, didn't listen to any music since I fully charged my phone. Much better battery life however I usually listen to music via bt everyday. Oh and cell standby is much better.
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I'm happy with the doze effect... i get very little battery drain while its on stand by.... maybe 1 percent over 3 hours... but while using it i do see a steep drop in the battery while playing games/videos... which is fine....
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Here is an update I turned off scanning in location, didn't listen to any music since I fully charged my phone. Much better battery life however I usually listen to music via bt everyday. Oh and cell standby is much better.
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Hmm...I turned scanning off as well but it didn't help with drain from Cell Standby much (probably because Im on WiFi all day anyway) but Doze seems to work now (I turned off "keep WiFi on during sleep"). I can't really complain though because I'm pretty happy with these numbers. If Cell Standby is actually reporting accurately, my battery life would be beyond phenomenal if drain from it were to be fixed.
FYI, this is on the completely stock OTA.
You get better battery life by far using LTE more often. For some this isn't an option because of tiered data but I'm unlimited. Qualcomm's.power envelope for LTE is a much more noticeable improvement on battery in the moto x. And WiFi range isn't as good as my note4. LTE on the note4 is marginally better than WiFi with power envelope tech, but still a noticeable improvement on battery. I exclusively use LTE on my note4 and moto x because of this. Less charging because I get better battery and better for the battery life long term as I'm using less charging cycles. And moto needs to hurry up on the marshmallow update. I want my band 12 activated so I can try using it again asy daily driver. The note4 is still a beast and longest I've used a phone as daily driver at 14+ months. Tmobile dropped the ball skipping the 5.1.1 update. Terrible terrible because 5.0.1 is half assed on Samsung and tmobile's part. 6.0 for marshmallow doesnt excite me because I'm still stuck on 4.4.4.because 5.0.1 is soooo bad.
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You get better battery life by far using LTE more often. For some this isn't an option because of tiered data but I'm unlimited. Qualcomm's.power envelope for LTE is a much more noticeable improvement on battery in the moto x. And WiFi range isn't as good as my note4. LTE on the note4 is marginally better than WiFi with power envelope tech, but still a noticeable improvement on battery. I exclusively use LTE on my note4 and moto x because of this. Less charging because I get better battery and better for the battery life long term as I'm using less charging cycles. And moto needs to hurry up on the marshmallow update. I want my band 12 activated so I can try using it again asy daily driver. The note4 is still a beast and longest I've used a phone as daily driver at 14+ months. Tmobile dropped the ball skipping the 5.1.1 update. Terrible terrible because 5.0.1 is half assed on Samsung and tmobile's part. 6.0 for marshmallow doesnt excite me because I'm still stuck on 4.4.4.because 5.0.1 is soooo bad.
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The longest you've used a phone as a DD is 14 months and you're worried about the number of charging cycles you have on your MXPE? I'd understand if you're looking to get 3 years out of it.
I'm on day three, and so far it's been better for me too. Outstanding when left untouched, slightly better when using it. Doze is really that good, it's just hard to leave my phone alone long enough for it to work LOL. Performance was great for me on LP but is noticeably quicker on MM. I will say that after the initial OTA update, it wasn't what I expected so did a factory reset.. after the reset, was tons better. Beyond impressed!
I cracked 4hrs SOT for the first time since I got my MXPE thanks to MM. High accuracy location and Bluetooth on the whole time.