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I've noticed that a bunch of people are running into battery usage issues recently and I'm one of them. I'm looking for a clean cut way to get back to great battery life. There has to be some funky crap going on that can easily be cleared with some Odin flashing, but I'm not entirely sure what to do.
I achieved great battery life last time by flashing to stock ED1 (stockrootedED1-20110517.tar) then accepted the OTA for EE4. After this, my memory gets hazy. I can't remember what I did after this, but I think I flashed some version of Altered Beast via Odin. I eventually went over to GummyCharged 1.5 and had amazing battery life.
Last week I started going a bit nuts with installing themes and updating the new ROM versions, and now my phone has crappy battery life. I tried flashing various Odin packages but I'm not having any luck getting that good battery life back.
And the fact that Odin is a flaky piece of crap doesn't help. Please do not post "use Heimdall," because I wanted to get something posted for Odin users and that would ruin the point.
Thank you in advance!
EDIT: Danalo's Odin bundle had a bad download link last night so I couldn't test that out. I'm giving that a shot now to see if that clears the battery drain issue.
Whoops, I'm probably going to get bashed for not posting this in the General forum despite the fact that his is a specific issue. Sorry in advance, imnuts.
And please, do not point me to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132726. That thread is useless.
EDIT: Proof that my battery didn't suck:
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Nope. Just flashed the Odin bundle that danalo made and my battery dropped from 85%-84% while going through the initial setup.
This is crap. What the heck is going on?
I'm having the same experience. I've tried GC and Altered beast - different kernels.. every combo gives me terrible battery. I had to send my phone back to verizon so I was running stock EE4 for about a week and it was significantly better battery than any of the custom roms. I've tried wiping everything, battery life, cache, factory, even wiped my @$$ every time I changed anything and those gremlin bastards are still chugging my battery life.
I think this is a good section (development) for this post to see if anyone can actually figure out the problem, I've seen several posts claiming to fix the problem in the different development threads and none of them are legit.
Yeah, flashing the Odin bundle that danalo made did not help I don't understand what is causing the issue.
After flashing the Odin bundle, my batter y dropped from 85% to 84% while running through the setup process (log into Google, etc.). Ridiculous. Then I went outside for a smoke and checked out some web pages.
My battery is now at 67% and it has only been ~35minutes since I flashed the Odin bundle. How can a battery drop from 85% to 67% in that short of time?
Voodoo is disabled.
Well here is my solution
I just ordered this back pack looking thing from new egg, it looks like the old ghost busters proton pack but has mini usb port. it weighs 30lbs but now my charge can stay plugged in and make it through a 12 hour day
That'll do! Or this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14685613&postcount=459
I found one of my posts where I laid out my steps to obtain EE4 radios with custom kernels/ROMs. I'm trying this now.
You really can't judge battery life until a few days after you flash something, due to battery calibration.
I can judge it if it's dropping 1% per minute.
Ive been having this issue too, if you click on my name and click on my posts, i have posted a crap ton on this issue.
the standard response I seem to get is "you flashed wrong"
this is not my first time around the block.
however, kejar31 posted an exact method to flashing and resetting battery stats. I have reset battery stats, and did the charge up thing, but never in the order he stated. so I am going to do it exactly.
refer to this post (1105) by kejar31
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116086&page=111
I will report back once this is completed.
This was happening to my phone where it would start charged at 7 am and die by 3 pm with no use at all. What i did to fix it was install the new Cwm test.tar and then install the touchwiz 4 theme. i then installed pbj kernel (non oc) and charged it to 100% and wiped battery stats. then i let it die and recharged it and wiped battery stats again. Worked like a charm. my battery can now easily run the whole day and still have 40% by 10 pm. And the touchwiz 4 theme is really nice. gets rid of the terribly ugly brown and orange theme and you are still on stock ee4. you can use debloated if you want but custom roms always destroy the battery on this phone for now. And if you wait another day, p3droid is going to release leaked gingerbread on the team blackhat app. that will surely be amazing because on my DROID X, on froyo the battery life would be good, and it would be amazing with an undervolt. But with gingerbread, i got better battery completely stock than with undervolted froyo. Gingerbread will be amazing. here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crt5xhLWmnM
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You really can't judge battery life until a few days after you flash something, due to battery calibration.
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Where are you getting this information? This sounds completely false. And it's not going to calibrate from 5 hours of idle battery time to an acceptable amount.
rami98 said:
What i did to fix it was install the new Cwm test.tar
i then installed pbj kernel (non oc)
you can use debloated if you want but custom roms always destroy the battery on this phone for now.
And if you wait another day, p3droid is going to release leaked gingerbread on the team blackhat app.
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1. Can you post a link to the CWM test.tar you're referring to?
2. Also post a link to the PBJT kernel you're referring to.
3. I was using GummyCharged after the EE4 update and had incredibly awesome battery life. I'm not exactly sure which update screwed up my battery life, but I had installed various themes and updated GC when the battery nightmares began. Since then, I've flashed various packages and have not had any luck getting back to great battery life.
4. How do you know the Gingerbread leak is coming out tomorrow?!
EDIT: I followed this post in hopes that it would clear my battery usage issue, but sadly, it did not - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14660877&postcount=1
I just followed the battery wipe instructions to a T.
I went from 98% battery to 92% battery in less than 10 min during setup and installing XDA.
This is my usage stats (tracked by me)
I was running stock EE4, no root, stock kernel.
i was getting 12 to 15 hours of battery with moderate heavy use.
I unplug my phone at 7am every day, and plug it back in at 10pm. my average battery percent at 10pm over the course of 5 days is 26%.
Using gummy, starting with 1.7 through 1.85 with the same usage, unplugging at 7am ever morning, I did not make it till 10pm without charging. not once.
I have data for 8 days using gummy, unplugging at 7am, on average I was able to make it to 1pm before getting the battery dead warning.
After reading all the posts on the "proper" flashing method, today I followed the directions exactly.
To re-cap this is what I did:
1) From a stock phone at 100% battery, I powered down the phone
2) Removed the battery
3) Removed the SD card
4) Plugged the phone into the PC, holding volume down to enter download mode
5) fired up odin 1.30
6) using odin, I pressed the PDA button, and selected "New_CWM_Recovery.tar"
7) once flashed, I removed the USB cable, replaced the battery, held "home", "volume up" and "power" to enter recovery.
8) inside recovery, i wiped user data, wiped cache, wiped davlik cache, wiped battery stats.
9) I powered down the phone, and repeated steps 7 and 8
10) I then installed ZIP "0602_charge_voodoo.zip"
11) I restarted phone and repeated steps 7 and 8
12) Installed "GummyCharged1.8.5" and booted the phone.
while typing this post (about 10 min) my phone has dropped 4% battery.
I will use the phone until the battery dies completely, I will then charge it back up to 100% and , according to every other person, this should fix my battery and the phone will run all day.
I will update shortly.
I guess I'll report my findings as well...
I received my phone yesterday and had flashed the PBJ kernel and GummyCharged before it even finished charging up for the first time. Didn't wipe battery stats or do any other battery-related tweaks. Let it finish charging last night and kept it plugged in all through the night. Got up at 7am and took it off charge at about 7:30...
It's now noon and I've got 85% left. Data connection is on (3G) with steady coverage, all other radios are off. Most of the time has been spent in my pocket or idle on my desk, but I've also downloaded/configured a few apps and used gmail and SMS. I have NoLED running but the notifications haven't had to stay on much since I'm at my work computer and the phone is sitting right next to me.
My previous phone was a Droid 2 running the Fission ROM and during a normal day's use I'd dip as low as 60% at worst... I'm guessing I might get near the bottom of the bucket with the Charge, but we'll have to see how it actually goes.
edit: 1:30pm now and at 83%...
msticlaru said:
I just followed the battery wipe instructions to a T.
I went from 98% battery to 92% battery in less than 10 min during setup and installing XDA.
After reading all the posts on the "proper" flashing method, today I followed the directions exactly.
To re-cap this is what I did:
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Haha, dude, I did the same exact thing as you earlier today and I'm in the same boat -- still having crappy battery life!
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Haha, dude, I did the same exact thing as you earlier today and I'm in the same boat -- still having crappy battery life!
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are you using the imnuts pbjt kernel ? im starting to think this may be kernel related.
also, i was discussing this in the IRC channel, and someone told me it had to do with formatting the SD card? Im not sure what he was talking about. im going to research that further.
i am posting some of the stats I have collected this far.
this is my 4 hour comparison chart.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12361411/4_hr_comps.pdf
These tests were done using the same apps and same pattern of usage. in all cases, Bluetooth was off, wi-fi was on and I am consistently in a 3g coverage area with good signal.
msticlaru said:
are you using the imnuts pbjt kernel ? im starting to think this may be kernel related.
also, i was discussing this in the IRC channel, and someone told me it had to do with formatting the SD card? Im not sure what he was talking about. im going to research that further.
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Yeah, but I was using the PBJT kernel 1-2 weeks ago when I had insanely good battery life. So I'm not so sure that it's the kernel
I just flashed the Gingerbread leak in hopes that it'll help with poor battery life.
I'm in the same boat as you guys. I was running stock rooted with imnuts' PBJT (non overclocked) kernel and getting crazy good battery life. It was the same as it was when I was completely stock. Since messing around with custom ROMs, I've had a nosedive in battery life. I used to go to work and put my phone in airplane mode when I got there due to extremely poor cell coverage in the building and would lose at most 2% over 2-3 hrs. Now, I lose 7% or more. I really enjoy GummyCharged and I don't want to go back to stock, but I don't know what to do. Like you guys, I've tried a lot of these black magic rituals of wiping/flashing orders to clear up my battery issue, but I've had no luck.
Right now, I've at 55% battery life left after 10 hrs 40 minutes, which sounds pretty great, but my phone was in airplane mode and sitting in my pocket for 7 hrs 30 minutes of that time. Its not completely awful, but its not what I was getting before. Also, when using the phone to do something light like return a few texts via Google Voice, I can watch the battery meter count down. :\ If you guys have a method to try that you want me to be a guinea pig for, let me know.
I have tried just about EVERY ROM. And I still am only getting around 6 hours of battery life. Is it the ROM, the dumbass user (me), or something else. I keep hearing the fantasy stories of people getting 15 hours on battery while using the phone all day long. Can someone point me in the right direction as far as ROM / Kernel combo that truly does this? Currently on the latest CM7 Nightly and don't like it at all.
I've been having the same problem lol. I'm currently on MIUI 1.9.23 and using Trinity ELP kernel.
I've had it on for about 6 hours and I'm down to 65%. I mean it's not terrible, but considering the phone was in airplane mode for 1.5 hours of that 6 hours, essentially the phone has really only truly been on for 4.5 hours. so I'm losing about 9%/hour.
I've literally tried everything I can to increase battery life but it just won't happen. Let me know if you figure anything out.
Hey you know I have had this phone for about a week, and I have tried all these roms on here and to be honest, the only one that does what I need it to do is the tweaked OTA version. As long as I have root and rom manager I am good. My Battery on any device does not last as long people say. So many things have to be considered. Like whether i am moving into 2g networks or how much i am using it.
The best thing for a battery though is to over charge it for an extra bit and then reset the stats. After dont recharge till it turns off by itself. Then do another over charge.
So by overcharging you mean leave it plugged in even after it says unplug it to conserve battery life
Yeah, when its plugged in it will charge continually and making sure its really fully charged.
I noticed this with my Milestone2, it would say done charging and it wouldnt last very long. So I read up on Battery charging and it said you should leave it charged for an extra hour or so. Only when trying to reach full battery stats.
Of course its ok to use it whenever but once in a while you should do a full drain and then full charge
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Plus, most of the people prob on here and doing everything under the sun to thier phones to tweak them. That could be a big reason why the batteries arent lasting so long.
Today I went through 3 different rom changes while at work (3 hours). After finally getting it back to where I was before work, my battery was at 23 percent!
Buy an extended battery off ebay or amazon for around 9-12$ Stock battery i can sometimes get about 12 hours depending on what i use my phone that day. But those 3500mah batteries should at least get you 18-24hrs for sure. Just make sure you cycle thru the battery a few times so it can start performing it's best.
Just put the Miui Rom on. Noiw am getting hang ups in Market on Wifi. I go to download something and it just sits there at starting download Any thought on how I can remedy this issue?
Arrgh...would have been nice if T-Mo and LG had put a working product out to begin with LOL!
mahgninnuc93 said:
I have tried just about EVERY ROM. And I still am only getting around 6 hours of battery life. Is it the ROM, the dumbass user (me), or something else. I keep hearing the fantasy stories of people getting 15 hours on battery while using the phone all day long. Can someone point me in the right direction as far as ROM / Kernel combo that truly does this? Currently on the latest CM7 Nightly and don't like it at all.
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It would be helpful to see your battery usage screen. I'll paste mine below. I'm also on CM7 (recent nightly) and I get good battery life IMO. Right now I'm at 8+ hours and I still have 76% left, but I've been at work all day so I've only used it for a few texts and calls and some brief web browsing. Typically I'm a very heavy user, always on, and with the stock battery and that kind of usage I only get 5-6 hours. I have a 4500mah battery and with that I can get up to 2 days of my normal heavy usage with that battery. It just looks like a brick and some people don't like that.
Are you a very heavy user? If so and your phone is constantly on then 6 hours may be all you can get. I think some of the claims people make are a bit misleading because there are so many factors that will influence your battery life.
Here's my screenshot.
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barqers said:
I've been having the same problem lol. I'm currently on MIUI 1.9.23 and using Trinity ELP kernel.
I've had it on for about 6 hours and I'm down to 65%. I mean it's not terrible, but considering the phone was in airplane mode for 1.5 hours of that 6 hours, essentially the phone has really only truly been on for 4.5 hours. so I'm losing about 9%/hour.
I've literally tried everything I can to increase battery life but it just won't happen. Let me know if you figure anything out.
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You should give miui another go with stock kernel and setcpu screen off profile, i get pretty good life.
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Disable bluetooth, disable GPS, and turn the screen brightness to 0% lol
@ phBurks, I am a very heavy user, Constantly relying on GPS as well as phone and mail since I am on the road all day long. I was hoping for better battery life. May have to get one of those extended batteries mentioned above.
@fcisco13 I'll give Miui another go. Where do I get setcpu? If its in the market I am hosed LOL. Market is hanging up on me all of the time.
And I cannot see any of my APN settings no matter what ROM I use.
Based on my own person experience the only way to get +8hrs is if I'm on WiFi. On cellular....forget it.
Minimum for me on MIUI is 12 hours... With a good amount of usage, and HSPA+... I use SetCPU though, it helps alot. Best application for saving battery life IMO.
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@ phBurks, I am a very heavy user, Constantly relying on GPS as well as phone and mail since I am on the road all day long. I was hoping for better battery life. May have to get one of those extended batteries mentioned above.
@fcisco13 I'll give Miui another go. Where do I get setcpu? If its in the market I am hosed LOL. Market is hanging up on me all of the time.
And I cannot see any of my APN settings no matter what ROM I use.
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You may be able to squeeze out a couple more hours if you use setcpu (from the Market lol). My suggestion though, if you're that heavy of a user, is you'll either need to keep your phone charging in the car (make sure you have at least a 1amp charger ... I use a 2amp charger in my car to make sure its charging at its max rate), or buy an extended life battery. I recommend the extended battery. There's a 3500mah one over in the accessories section that's pretty cheap and sounds like it works pretty well. I have the 4500mah one from Mugen Power. Its a little more costly but it also lasts a few hours longer than the 3500mah one.
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I use SetCPU though, it helps alot. Best application for saving battery life IMO.
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+1 Especially if your kernel supports undervolting, i can successfully uv -100 up to 1100mhz, i rarely need to go over that speed anyways and know i can get a crazy high quadrant score if i overclocked anyways. Settings i have righ tnow for setcpu are:
222mhz - 100 uv
up to 819mhz -100uv
Gets me easily 6-10hrs with lots of usageon stock battery.
It varies. I find that using a CM7 cooked ROM have terrible battery life. I'm sorry, just from my personal experience. Only other app that kills the battery is the GPS.
A Stock Cooked ROM gave me fantastic battery life. But.... its stock, and some things in Stock just can't stand. Also, had random reboots. Maybe I messed around with too much crap in my SD Card. Who knows. If I really wanted to, I could make a ROM stable on my phone. But just can't stand the Stock ROM.
Stock 2.3.3 = 15 hours moderate use
CM 2.3.5 = 8 hours moderate use
Regardless, if you want a long lasting battery, don't get an android. No phone is perfect. Only my battery extender 3500mha but I end up with a PHAT Phone. Plus its not protected by my rubber case.
Thats the only reason I don't use the battery extender.
After completely wiping my phone and installing whitehawkx celebration MIUI 1.9.23 I get awesome battery life. I think before since you had to "hack" 3G to get it working on whitehawkx MIUI was why it wasn't working great.
I'm on the whitehawkx kernel that comes with miui, whichever one that is. I'm going to give trinity a try. Then again, I have no apps installed except for facebook with notifications off and auto-sync off. But good news is my phone is not constantly awake now.
mahgninnuc93 said:
@ phBurks, I am a very heavy user, Constantly relying on GPS as well as phone and mail since I am on the road all day long. I was hoping for better battery life. May have to get one of those extended batteries mentioned above.
@fcisco13 I'll give Miui another go. Where do I get setcpu? If its in the market I am hosed LOL. Market is hanging up on me all of the time.
And I cannot see any of my APN settings no matter what ROM I use.
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Here you go, setcpu free for xda members, thank the author and donate if you can.
http://tinyurl.com/yd99xfj
mahgninnuc93 said:
I have tried just about EVERY ROM. And I still am only getting around 6 hours of battery life. Is it the ROM, the dumbass user (me), or something else. I keep hearing the fantasy stories of people getting 15 hours on battery while using the phone all day long. Can someone point me in the right direction as far as ROM / Kernel combo that truly does this? Currently on the latest CM7 Nightly and don't like it at all.
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Give Eagleblood 2.3.3 1.07 a try, good battery life with its own kernel. I tried with Faux GB kernel gave me random SOD, and reboot, also took way too long to boot too.
barqers said:
After completely wiping my phone and installing whitehawkx celebration MIUI 1.9.23 I get awesome battery life. I think before since you had to "hack" 3G to get it working on whitehawkx MIUI was why it wasn't working great.
I'm on the whitehawkx kernel that comes with miui, whichever one that is. I'm going to give trinity a try. Then again, I have no apps installed except for facebook with notifications off and auto-sync off. But good news is my phone is not constantly awake now.
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Just installed this ROM. Will report back later what the results are. So far so good.
Does anyone know of a good clock / weather widget that doesn't use too much battery life?
Can someone please explain this to me, or help me understand this. My battery drops like crazy all the time. Last night I fully charged, cleared stats, fully charged again, pulled the battery, restarted and left sitting in an area of my house with good coverage. This is what I wake up to.
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20% drain. Go to the settings and look at what's been eating the battery. Roughly 10% of my battery was consumed by the radio. But, it only shows 2% of the time without signal.
I have os monitor installed. Is there a way to have it record consumption, etc while the screen is off? Or is there another option you guys know of.
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Can someone please explain this to me, or help me understand this. My battery drops like crazy all the time. Last night I fully charged, cleared stats, fully charged again, pulled the battery, restarted and left sitting in an area of my house with good coverage. This is what I wake up to.
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20% drain. Go to the settings and look at what's been eating the battery. Roughly 10% of my battery was consumed by the radio. But, it only shows 2% of the time without signal.
I have os monitor installed. Is there a way to have it record consumption, etc while the screen is off? Or is there another option you guys know of.
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I had the same issue a while back. My phone was dying in 3 to 4 hours with no use. What mine turned out to be was something got screwed up installing a new rom. After that no matter what I flashed nothing changed. Sense, aosp. It didn't matter.
When mine did this I also had trouble even receiving phone calls as well as making them. I would get the call but then there would be no sound whatsoever. Are you having that issue as well?
Anyway the only thing that fixed it for me was to ruu back to stock and then re root. I wouldn't jump to that conclusion yet especially if your not having the same issues I did but I do feel your pain. Good luck
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Iwould try flashing a different Rom. Have you updated your radios? If not I would. But definately try a different Rom. Also be very sure to Clear your device properly before a flash. If not it can cause a lot of strange issues.
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I use clockwork. When I install a new rom I reset in fastboot, do the same in recovery, wipe cache, then I go to advanced and format cache, dalvik, sd-ext, and system. I think that's all of them. Basicly anything listed anywhere in the recovery that wipes/formats anything but the fat32 portion of my card. Then install. The exception to this is with cm7 anf new nightlies. Then I wipe cache and dalvik. Then install the nightly over the existing install. I never use rom manager to flash anything. Nor do I use kernel manager to install new kernels. I have installed the new radio and wimax although I'll never see 4G around here.
I guess I may do the ruu thing. That sucks.
Also, I've noticed when I fully charge, regardless if I unplug it as soon as it reaches 100% or let it sit for a while longer, when I unplug it the phone drops to 96% or so like hella fast.
I have also considered I may just have a bad battery now.
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If you suspect the battery you can always AnTuTu Tester to check the battery. If it is the battery you can always go to your local Sprint store and ask them to exchange yours.
Cool. Thanks bro. Downloading now. They will just swap batteries?
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They will do a short test on the battery. Then most likely switch it out, free of charge. They've done this for me several times.
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I'm having the same problem with my wife's shift.
She told me a week ago the battery started draining like crazy overnight, like 60% drop without wifi or 3g turned on.
I have ss8 with dodgekernel and latest radio 1.08
I looked at it and thought maybe a problem with apps, so I put autostarts app on to kill unnecessary apps.
This still didn't fix it.
Also traded batteries, also no fix.
I unrooted and brought to sprint.
They couldn't figure it out and told me to update to 2.3 and if the problem is still there to bring it back for a replacement.
I'll do that and let you guys know.
Right now it's running fresh and the problem is still there.
The signal cuts out completely every 30 sec. or so no matter if it's full signal or not.
i tried the app mentioned. it drained the battery to like 20% before stopping. it rated it a 548 i thing. it places it above the incredible. not really what i thought the test would show.
right now i'm running the nocturnal rom for a while. i'm going to see how it does tonight before adding any of my usual cast of apps. i figure the best test i can do is to let it run naked and see how the drainage is. i plan on having it at 100% and let it sit for 6-8 hours.
tomorrow i'll ad my most important apps and make sure their notification stuff is turned off. this list of apps includes weatherbug paid, dropbox, teamviewer, text editor, andexplorer, and andftp. weatherbug it the only one that runs the backgound updates. i have it set to refresh every 4 hours and have all the other updates/notifications/alerts turned off.
codygs83 said:
I'm having the same problem with my wife's shift.
She told me a week ago the battery started draining like crazy overnight, like 60% drop without wifi or 3g turned on.
I have ss8 with dodgekernel and latest radio 1.08
I looked at it and thought maybe a problem with apps, so I put autostarts app on to kill unnecessary apps.
This still didn't fix it.
Also traded batteries, also no fix.
I unrooted and brought to sprint.
They couldn't figure it out and told me to update to 2.3 and if the problem is still there to bring it back for a replacement.
I'll do that and let you guys know.
Right now it's running fresh and the problem is still there.
The signal cuts out completely every 30 sec. or so no matter if it's full signal or not.
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Updating ( downgrading ) to 2.3 Factory Stock GB will not resolve the issue. As for Autostarts App, it's kind of like a Task Killer. Which have been proven to use more battery and CPU then they save. When you went to Sprint and they gave you a "new" battery. Did the guy go in the back and bring one out? Or did he just hand you a new one in the package? There's a reason I'm asking. I went to Sprint 3x's and they gave me "new" batteries. But it wasn't until I refused the one handed to me opened, and insisted on an unopened packege that I believe I truely received a new battery. I watched that day as they exchanged several batteries for customers. Everytime the employees would go to the back desk, put down the battery they had in their hand and just grab one off the desk. Which was one someone else had bought in obviously for an exchange . That is why I demanded a new one in the package. Also the Stock Factory GB release is plagued with annoying Not a batch restore, or a restore with TB. Just to make sure it's not a rogue app.
jsp254 said:
i tried the app mentioned. it drained the battery to like 20% before stopping. it rated it a 548 i thing. it places it above the incredible. not really what i thought the test would show.
right now i'm running the nocturnal rom for a while. i'm going to see how it does tonight before adding any of my usual cast of apps. i figure the best test i can do is to let it run naked and see how the drainage is. i plan on having it at 100% and let it sit for 6-8 hours.
tomorrow i'll ad my most important apps and make sure their notification stuff is turned off. this list of apps includes weatherbug paid, dropbox, teamviewer, text editor, andexplorer, and andftp. weatherbug it the only one that runs the backgound updates. i have it set to refresh every 4 hours and have all the other updates/notifications/alerts turned off.
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As a rule of thumb when you do a fresh flash. You should let it settle for several hours before installing any apps. When you do reinstall apps, try not to restore data if at all possible. Lastly try to install apps one t a time. That way you know how they're doing with your setup, and if there's an issue. If there is it's alot easier to track down.
Yeah I noticed the tech at the store was at a loss for words when I told him it's not the software but he insisted that I update to 2.3 before they gimme a new shift.
Also, for the battery I just put my battery in her phone which gives me about 24hrs heavy use on ss8. And only about a 2% bat drain overnight on mine.
This obviously did not solve the issue.
I'm convinced it's the hardware, just gotta update to 2.3 before they swap it out.
It's just a huge inconvenience since the only sprint retailer is 30 min. away and last time I waited 3 hours for them to shrug their shoulders at me.
thanks for the advice though, I'll keep that in mind
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Updating ( downgrading ) to 2.3 Factory Stock GB will not resolve the issue. As for Autostarts App, it's kind of like a Task Killer. Which have been proven to use more battery and CPU then they save. When you went to Sprint and they gave you a "new" battery. Did the guy go in the back and bring one out? Or did he just hand you a new one in the package? There's a reason I'm asking. I went to Sprint 3x's and they gave me "new" batteries. But it wasn't until I refused the one handed to me opened, and insisted on an unopened packege that I believe I truely received a new battery. I watched that day as they exchanged several batteries for customers. Everytime the employees would go to the back desk, put down the battery they had in their hand and just grab one off the desk. Which was one someone else had bought in obviously for an exchange . That is why I demanded a new one in the package. Also the Stock Factory GB release is plagued with annoying Not a batch restore, or a restore with TB. Just to make sure it's not a rogue app.
As a rule of thumb when you do a fresh flash. You should let it settle for several hours before installing any apps. When you do reinstall apps, try not to restore data if at all possible. Lastly try to install apps one t a time. That way you know how they're doing with your setup, and if there's an issue. If there is it's alot easier to track down.
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When all else fails RUU 2.2 and/or call sprint.
If you have to RUU to 2.3 to get a new phone do it. It's better than going through Asurion.
First off, I am loving the phone. It is such a massive leap from the N1 I had been using. While I expected lower battery life, I did not expect to run through 70% of the battery in 4 hours with moderate usage.
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I have heard of people getting far better battery life, and have tried the various methods, from charging to 100% then turning the phone off and charging again to 100%, using juice defender ultimate, and even resorting to factory resetting the phone. Still I can't get any kind of good life out of the battery. My question is should I try and get a full replacement for the phone or just the battery? I've only had it sinceblast Thursday, so I know AT&T will happily exchange it, but if yall think it's just the battery, I'd rather just replace that then the whole phone.
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First off, I am loving the phone. It is such a massive leap from the N1 I had been using. While I expected lower battery life, I did not expect to run through 70% of the battery in 4 hours with moderate usage.
I have heard of people getting far better battery life, and have tried the various methods, from charging to 100% then turning the phone off and charging again to 100%, using juice defender ultimate, and even resorting to factory resetting the phone. Still I can't get any kind of good life out of the battery. My question is should I try and get a full replacement for the phone or just the battery? I've only had it sinceblast Thursday, so I know AT&T will happily exchange it, but if yall think it's just the battery, I'd rather just replace that then the whole phone.
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Have you found out what is using your battery?.. Even before I rooted and all the other stuff was getting at least 10hr.. now Im getting 24-28hours...
Are you running another ROM other than stock?
Didn't want to root if I needed to return anything, so I am running stock currently. Looking no app seems to be running away and draining all the battery. Everything looks the same as it did on my N1 in terms of what's draining the battery, which is what lead me to believe it's a bad battery possibly.
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Didn't want to root if I needed to return anything, so I am running stock currently. Looking no app seems to be running away and draining all the battery. Everything looks the same as it did on my N1 in terms of what's draining the battery, which is what lead me to believe it's a bad battery possibly.
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Yeah.. it very well could be.. mass produced items= bound to have some duds here and there..
Return it for another.. This is a great phone!!!
definitely return it.
Well if you do root than TPC's Rom is the best. It comes with kernel and the battery life is outstanding.
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First off, I am loving the phone. It is such a massive leap from the N1 I had been using. While I expected lower battery life, I did not expect to run through 70% of the battery in 4 hours with moderate usage.
I have heard of people getting far better battery life, and have tried the various methods, from charging to 100% then turning the phone off and charging again to 100%, using juice defender ultimate, and even resorting to factory resetting the phone. Still I can't get any kind of good life out of the battery. My question is should I try and get a full replacement for the phone or just the battery? I've only had it sinceblast Thursday, so I know AT&T will happily exchange it, but if yall think it's just the battery, I'd rather just replace that then the whole phone.
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I was concerned with battery life at first as well. When I first got this thing I had to plug up 9 hours after I unplugged. So now I am near 30 days with it and the battery seems to have leveled out enough for me to be happy. I got 16 hours on it STOCK no ROOT the other day without plugging in, was at 10% when I finally plugged in. Yesterday I activated Juice Defender again after getting some questions answered. I got 17 hours without a plug in and was still at 25%, so i probably could have gotten 20+ hours if I needed it.
So I am happy now 17+ hours is plenty long enough for me, I always plug in at bedtime anyway.
I'm wondering how many people who are reporting battery issues, if they have calibrated them. Charge your battery all the way, use the phone until the battery dies, then fully charge. This will give a more accurate reading as far percentage used.
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I'm wondering how many people who are reporting battery issues, if they have calibrated them. Charge your battery all the way, use the phone until the battery dies, then fully charge. This will give a more accurate reading as far percentage used.
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first thing I did and I actually never have reported battery issues......I was giving it time to season and it has leveled off nicely.
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Well if you do root than TPC's Rom is the best. It comes with kernel and the battery life is outstanding.
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There is a new ROM Piret RC1, the battery life is amazing, it has a different Kernel as the one with TPC has it';s problems.
RC1 is clean fast and in 2 hours I used up 4%. Then turned every possible service on used it up like crazy to drain the battery, installing/backing up/ flashing new rom and it took 2 hours with heavy usage to drain from 17%. Just to compare last night I had a TPC ROM and was on WhatsApp for about an Hour and battery went from 85 to 34 %.
Re: Returning the phone.
First once you root you can the same way unroot, make sure first you install a stock ROM.
My friends have the same problem, one with this phone, and others with android phones in general, don;t waist your time returnig. To be safe you also have a year to send it to Samsung to get fixed if there is something wrong with it.
Basically, running apps will kill battery, location services kills it the most, sync not so much, heavy use of data does to (I have LTE plan). Use power saver to start at 70%, configure it right, use the CPU app to manage the speed ondemand.
Most important don't frick out, the andoid phones are like that, the major difference is that Iphone does maybe 20% of what android phone does in standby and many things are not available on Iphone, so the battery is better. You will not get more then a day of use on android if you use it to your benefit. 28H is mostly standby, no sync, no internet usage, just moderate. I used to use Iphone heavy and battery would not last a day.
Get a good data plan, don;t use WI-Fi unless u have too, when syncing with the car plug it in the charger, spend extra $10 get a Samsung cable from them, don;t go for cheap 10 dollar once or even 1 dollar once from China, they are very slow to charge. My cable from the box take 1.5 H to charge to 100.
Hope it helps, please don;t quote me on anything, this is purely based on research and one week usage and trying different things, it's strictly my opinion, don;t expect your phone to last like they use too, it's 21st century and techno in it is overwhelming and needs power. Keep the phone have two cables and enjoy!
This is my first smart phone, after 20 plus years of having cel phones. I try to read before posting any questions.
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This is my first smart phone, after 20 plus years of having cel phones. I try to read before posting any questions.
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good habit to get into thanks for that....the search button is your friend.
I have been reading on the battery issues, long before I posted. I have done everything from calibrating, to using juice defender ultimate, to doing a ritualistic dance to try and coax more battery life out of this phone. Still with nothing but 2 phone calls and one quick spelling look up, dead within 8 1/2 hours.
I just got my extra battery and charger from samsung in today, already fully charged up this battery and will see what it can do for a few days. I'm hoping my problems are just a random bad battery. I also factory restored and am running bare minimum on apps just to try and remove all variables. If there still is a problem I will exhange it for another one next week. I just hope they still have some white ones in stock
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I have been reading on the battery issues, long before I posted. I have done everything from calibrating, to using juice defender ultimate, to doing a ritualistic dance to try and coax more battery life out of this phone. Still with nothing but 2 phone calls and one quick spelling look up, dead within 8 1/2 hours.
I just got my extra battery and charger from samsung in today, already fully charged up this battery and will see what it can do for a few days. I'm hoping my problems are just a random bad battery. I also factory restored and am running bare minimum on apps just to try and remove all variables. If there still is a problem I will exhange it for another one next week. I just hope they still have some white ones in stock
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My battery went completely dead too. I returned mine. Black model though. New one is doing okay so far. Better since it doesn't report 100% battery until a reboot...
Finally went and exchanged it last night. So far I have gotten 9 hours of battery life and am only down to 70%. Better than before, but the vertical lines on the screen are worse on this one than the last.
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I have almost the opposite "problem." Not that I'd call it a problem just yet. I had my phone running from about 10am till 1am yesterday. I went to bed and plugged the charger in and it instantly said "battery charged 100%. Remove charger." 15 hours with no drain at all? Granted, I didn't do much with it yesterday but send about 20 text messages.
Going on 32 hours+ battery life and no vertical lines.. bought it when it came out Nov6....
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Finally went and exchanged it last night. So far I have gotten 9 hours of battery life and am only down to 70%. Better than before, but the vertical lines on the screen are worse on this one than the last.
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30% in 9 hr's? you need to see what is killing your battery... unless you play games or on the net all day.. that is not good at all..
I lose about 1% an hour..
I don't know what you smoking man but i tried his rom and never had issues. Let me tell you I Have ORD so my suggestion will be based on my usage rather than prediction. I have tried most of the themed/tweaked roms. Don't like stock rom.
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There is a new ROM Piret RC1, the battery life is amazing, it has a different Kernel as the one with TPC has it';s problems.
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Considering I used to be lucky to get 10% drain an hour on standby before, the 3% our so i'm losing an hour now is awesome. And in those 9 hours I checked google reader and played some levels of Trial Extreme 2.
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Here is my battery currently.
70% in a little over 20 hours was unheard of on my last one.
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something that ive been always been wondering..
every time i get a new phone i seem to have bad luck with them when it comes to battery..(optimus 4x, nexus 4, nexus 5) i always see reviews and comments saying they get X screen on time and i always get X-2 screen on time and poor standby time
ive tried everything, changing roms, kernels, checking wakelocks turning wifi or 3g off when not used(LTE always off)
the most i ever seem to get is 3 hours and thats a really good day on low performance(underclocked) and i also barely game..
how in the hell do people get 5 hours screen time and complain about it.. meaning that they actually get more! and they say they game and browse alot.. im not only comparing to people online, i also compare with my friends who get good battery.. we dont seem to be doing anything different
does anyone know the problem/solution to this?!
I really recommend to go on stock firmware and DON'T install/restore any of ur apps.
Then see what's up.
CHEERS
It's all about looking at what is using your battery and mitigating as many of them as you can. Some people might find they can't live without many features of a phone and so will generally get less time then someone who is willing to sacrifice certain features or adjust their usage to improve battery time.
Sharing your full setup could help us help you... ROM, kernel and kernel settings, apps installed, tweaks made, wakelocks you're having, etc.
Personally, I'm coming to the N5 from the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and I've been astounded with the battery life of this phone. It's the first time in over a year, that I don't feel the burning need to carry a charger with me everywhere I go. Additionally, this is the first device that's made me seriously consider NOT rooting.
As of this moment, I'm running rooted stock firmware, with Faux kernel 008m, and I'm getting spectacular results! I'd love to help you work this out.
As a point of comparison, this is a battery life readout I took two days ago... I can't complain at all about nearly 27 hours of uptime, with 4 hours SOT.
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This is on T-Mobile LTE the entire time, GPS on, moderate usage, and only useless apps (for me at least) frozen, including the GEL launcher, the stock news app, Google Earth, the stock email app, and the non-English keyboards...that's it.
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Hannibal226 said:
I really recommend to go on stock firmware and DON'T install/restore any of ur apps.
Then see what's up.
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what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps
jjhiza said:
Sharing your full setup could help us help you... ROM, kernel and kernel settings, apps installed, tweaks made, wakelocks you're having, etc.
Personally, I'm coming to the N5 from the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, and I've been astounded with the battery life of this phone. It's the first time in over a year, that I don't feel the burning need to carry a charger with me everywhere I go. Additionally, this is the first device that's made me seriously consider NOT rooting.
As of this moment, I'm running rooted stock firmware, with Faux kernel 008m, and I'm getting spectacular results! I'd love to help you work this out.
As a point of comparison, this is a battery life readout I took two days ago... I can't complain at all about nearly 27 hours of uptime, with 4 hours SOT.
This is on T-Mobile LTE the entire time, GPS on, moderate usage, and only useless apps (for me at least) frozen, including the GEL launcher, the stock news app, Google Earth, the stock email app, and the non-English keyboards...that's it.
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ive tried almost every rom-kernel combination there could possibly be all resulting the same.. my stock had OK-ish battery life but still not great
im on 100% now charging so theres nothing to upload and my wakelocks show nothing just maps.. and i forgot to mention that i usually turn off location as well.. i have no problem changing to stock but most people get good battery life with roms too..i dont mind which kernel either cause every kernel will be really fast with the snapdragon 800
current rom liquid smooth
kernel - just upgraded to faux an hour ago.. phone is heating and percentage dropping fast(not that the previous ones were great)
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fast fast charge, eco mode and intelliplug- all on
300000-2265600 frequency
and ondemand governer
namnam123 said:
ive tried almost every rom-kernel combination there could possibly be all resulting the same.. my stock had OK-ish battery life but still not great
im on 100% now charging so theres nothing to upload and my wakelocks show nothing just maps.. and i forgot to mention that i usually turn off location as well.. i have no problem changing to stock but most people get good battery life with roms too..i dont mind which kernel either cause every kernel will be really fast with the snapdragon 800
current rom liquid smooth
kernel - just upgraded to faux an hour ago.. phone is heating and percentage dropping fast(not that the previous ones were great)
no tweaks
kernel settings
fast fast charge, eco mode and intelliplug- all on
300000-2265600 frequency
and ondemand governer
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I recommend do this on a stock ROM, but can work on any.
Have your phone set up normally. Charge it full, reboot in "safe mode" and don't open any apps. Just let it do its thing for a few hours, or over night. See how the battery life is now. It should improve. If so, you got something 3rd party killing it.
Turn off location reporting and location history. It'll improve your battery life dramatically without making any noticeable impact on the phone's capabilities (including Google Now). I also recommend disabling Google+ if you don't use it.
^Great suggestion!
@namnam123 did you have heat issues with the phone, prior to flashing Liquid or Faux? From my Galaxy Nexus days, I remember heat problems being caused (occasionally) by an improper/nonexistent wipe during flashing. You cleared dalvik and cache at least, correct?
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what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps
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The point is to see if the battery still drains as quickly without any third-party apps or mods. If not, then the problem isn't the phone, but rather something you installed on it. Some apps can run in the background and drain battery power even when you're not using them. Some mods like custom kernels can also worsen battery life.
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what do you mean? what the point of my phone with no apps
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BirchBarlow said:
The point is to see if the battery still drains as quickly without any third-party apps or mods. If not, then the problem isn't the phone, but rather something you installed on it. Some apps can run in the background and drain battery power even when you're not using them. Some mods like custom kernels can also worsen battery life.
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Exactly
jjhiza said:
^Great suggestion!
@namnam123 did you have heat issues with the phone, prior to flashing Liquid or Faux? From my Galaxy Nexus days, I remember heat problems being caused (occasionally) by an improper/nonexistent wipe during flashing. You cleared dalvik and cache at least, correct?
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yes i always wipe the cache and dalvik cache
Make sure wifi scanning is off too. And ages ago usb fast charge used to cause issues with massive battery drain when the screen was on. So turn it off and see if it helps. I am talking years ago tho. It was literally meant to be turned on when plugging in and leaving the phone alone. Then disabled when taking off charge
Also post some screen shots of your battery stats
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