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Touchscreen broken from water damage. Be careful!

I've had the new Moto G for about a month and figured I'd share my experience with it. I came from a Nexus 5 that finally wouldn't hold much of a charge and had power button problems. The Moto G was excellent and performed better than I thought it would. I also liked that it was IPX-7 rated. Anyway, I recently got married and on the honeymoon we went on an ATV ride through a jungle. There were puddles and a couple small waterfalls we had to drive through. I had my wife take pictures and record some video while we were driving. I didn't think some splashes of water would effect the phone because of the IPX-7 rating. The phone was never submerged, and the entire ATV ride was only about 15 minutes. We took maybe 6 photos and a 45 second video. A few hours later that night, the touchscreen started acting up with phantom touches and stopped working in some spots. The problem got worse the next day to the point where the phone became unusable. So, either the water ended up damaging the phone, or the screen spontaneously started having problems.
I was pretty disappointed, because I read a few different reviews before buying the phone that actually submerged it in water for 30 minutes, and it withheld with no problems. I also was shocked at the value for $220, and planned to keep the phone for a couple years. Since water damage is not covered under the warranty, I was SOL and had a useless 4 week old phone. I don't think I was pushing the water resistance rating with what I did, but apparently it was too much. I would still recommend the phone to others, but will tell them not to trust the IPX-7 rating. Since I needed a new phone, I ended up going with an Xperia Z5 compact, and am very happy with it so far.

cookiE17 said:
I've had the new Moto G for about a month and figured I'd share my experience with it. I came from a Nexus 5 that finally wouldn't hold much of a charge and had power button problems. The Moto G was excellent and performed better than I thought it would. I also liked that it was IPX-7 rated. Anyway, I recently got married and on the honeymoon we went on an ATV ride through a jungle. There were puddles and a couple small waterfalls we had to drive through. I had my wife take pictures and record some video while we were driving. I didn't think some splashes of water would effect the phone because of the IPX-7 rating. The phone was never submerged, and the entire ATV ride was only about 15 minutes. We took maybe 6 photos and a 45 second video. A few hours later that night, the touchscreen started acting up with phantom touches and stopped working in some spots. The problem got worse the next day to the point where the phone became unusable. So, either the water ended up damaging the phone, or the screen spontaneously started having problems.
I was pretty disappointed, because I read a few different reviews before buying the phone that actually submerged it in water for 30 minutes, and it withheld with no problems. I also was shocked at the value for $220, and planned to keep the phone for a couple years. Since water damage is not covered under the warranty, I was SOL and had a useless 4 week old phone. I don't think I was pushing the water resistance rating with what I did, but apparently it was too much. I would still recommend the phone to others, but will tell them not to trust the IPX-7 rating. Since I needed a new phone, I ended up going with an Xperia Z5 compact, and am very happy with it so far.
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Why not to try a factory reset. And take a hair dryer and blow it on the phone near the power.button and the speakers and headphones.. Hope thia may solve the problem. BTW this is a geek site it is not necessary to describe your honeymoon?.Anyways have fun and happy married life with your wife.

banerjeeayan1996 said:
Why not to try a factory reset. And take a hair dryer and blow it on the phone near the power.button and the speakers and headphones.. Hope thia may solve the problem. BTW this is a geek site it is not necessary to describe your honeymoon.Anyways have fun and happy married life with your wife.
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Haha! ... Well, I did blow out all of the openings and sat it in front of a fan for a day, but that didn't help. I have had it sitting in a bowl of rice for two days also. I'll check it tonight or tomorrow and see if there was any improvement.

Ok do let me know

Leave it in a bag, covered with dry uncooked rice for 2 days. The rice will pull any moisture from the phone.
sorry, didn't see your post at first that's the best thing you can do. I've saved countless wet electronics with rice.

Even though the phone wasn't submerged, you should have still removed the back of the phone and dried out the sim and SD slots as soon as possible.....Yeah Yeah, I know, newly weds, steaming jungle, hotel, mini bar, Jacuzzi, the last thing on your mind was drying out a phone.:highfive:
BTW, congratulations. :good:

PASS or FAIL !!!!!!!
i have gotten my phone into same situation..
i kept my phone in water for almost 1 hour , dipping and taking videos underwater with our MotoG .. after 2 hours my Touchscreen behaved Weird ..
1st day i can see that front camera is covered with FOG, and screen failed to register my Touch many times, so i kept my phone in RICE BAG for 3 days, now my phone TOUCH is working promptly, but my screen got YELLOW BORDER..
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my Doubt is .. is it going to SPREAD allover the screen?? or is it of no problem??
please give me any suggestions

What the heck is this display issue?

Hey Guys (and gals).
My Samsung Galaxy Alpha's screen seem to have gotten an odd 'defect' which i cannot seem to determine the cause of. Normally i would just beat the **** outta google for such issue but I cannot seem to find any documentation or even a similar case regarding following issue. (am i blind???)
Description: A few months back an odd 'line' in a 'silver/metallic/greyish' color appeared on the top right of the display. The damage itself does not seem to be a scratch nor crack on the display. It more seems to be some kind of liquid material but i cannot tell for sure. As said at first it apperaed as a single straight line on the size of a fingertip but that quickly changed; as you can see on the picture it has started to fork into multiple branches and is in general growing in a faster phase than in the beginning.
At some point i realized that the phone is 'old' and a repair wouldn’t be profitable to even consider. But there is one thing that bothers the living **** outta me; i cannot figure out what caused the problem in the first place! - I am most definitely not a phone technician but i do have my share of hardware knowledge in computer devices. And this does not seem to be near any kind of damages on LCD displays i have encountered on either laptops, monitors nor phones. I have my daily routine in a IT company where i work as an sysadmin; and therefore i believe that i come across atleast some people who could be able to determine the root cause such issue. - But till now the only 'convincing' argument came from a 'hardware chimp' at my local phone store that was certain the screen was cracked and the only solution was either for him to sell me a new phone or ship it to Samsung repair.
- If the device is flipped on the side and you examine the display from the right angle it is clear that the damage doesn’t seem to be on the protective glass nor the LCD display below it. - It seems (from my pov) to be either on the inner-side of the Glass or somewhere in between the glass and the LCD (trapped air? liquid?). Besides the visuals the phone doesn’t seem to suffer any other negative effect. Touch works flawlessly and the device still seems solid.
- Therefore i ask you guys; does any of you have even the slightest idea on what could be causing such issue?
Any advice / solution models / comments / muffins will be much appreciated.
Best Regards
PS. Sorry for the terrible picture quality but my normal camera device was kinda incapable of capturing it.
Edit: For sum reason my picture isnt appearing? .
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raghh89 said:
Hey Guys (and gals).
My Samsung Galaxy Alpha's screen seem to have gotten an odd 'defect' which i cannot seem to determine the cause of. Normally i would just beat the **** outta google for such issue but I cannot seem to find any documentation or even a similar case regarding following issue. (am i blind???)
Description: A few months back an odd 'line' in a 'silver/metallic/greyish' color appeared on the top right of the display. The damage itself does not seem to be a scratch nor crack on the display. It more seems to be some kind of liquid material but i cannot tell for sure. As said at first it apperaed as a single straight line on the size of a fingertip but that quickly changed; as you can see on the picture it has started to fork into multiple branches and is in general growing in a faster phase than in the beginning.
At some point i realized that the phone is 'old' and a repair wouldn’t be profitable to even consider. But there is one thing that bothers the living **** outta me; i cannot figure out what caused the problem in the first place! - I am most definitely not a phone technician but i do have my share of hardware knowledge in computer devices. And this does not seem to be near any kind of damages on LCD displays i have encountered on either laptops, monitors nor phones. I have my daily routine in a IT company where i work as an sysadmin; and therefore i believe that i come across atleast some people who could be able to determine the root cause such issue. - But till now the only 'convincing' argument came from a 'hardware chimp' at my local phone store that was certain the screen was cracked and the only solution was either for him to sell me a new phone or ship it to Samsung repair.
- If the device is flipped on the side and you examine the display from the right angle it is clear that the damage doesn’t seem to be on the protective glass nor the LCD display below it. - It seems (from my pov) to be either on the inner-side of the Glass or somewhere in between the glass and the LCD (trapped air? liquid?). Besides the visuals the phone doesn’t seem to suffer any other negative effect. Touch works flawlessly and the device still seems solid.
- Therefore i ask you guys; does any of you have even the slightest idea on what could be causing such issue?
Any advice / solution models / comments / muffins will be much appreciated.
Best Regards
PS. Sorry for the terrible picture quality but my normal camera device was kinda incapable of capturing it.
Edit: For sum reason my picture isnt appearing? .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/picture.php?albumid=13479&pictureid=53768
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No offense, but the lines look awesome . I think that they might really be just air or water(liquid) that got caught in between the LCD and the digitizer(touch screen). Keep me informed.
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Magnetic micro usb adapter /cable

I read that the usb port of Mi max is very easy to scratch, is using magnetic micro usb adapter or cable a good solution?
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So you'd rather have something stick out than some scratches only visible if you specifically look for them? I wouldn't even noticed them if didn't read this few days back.
I really don't get it...
It's just a phone, tool ment for every day use.

nijel8 said:
So you'd rather have something stick out than some scratches only visible if you specifically look for them? I wouldn't even noticed them if didn't read this few days back.
I really don't get it...
It's just a phone, tool ment for every day use.
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I agree. Anybody who knows me personally will tell you that I am anally retentive when it comes to the condition of my gadgets. Seeing someone use a phone with a cracked screen induces almost Jack the Ripper levels of rage in me but this isn't a huge problem. I have had this phone for around 5 days now and can see some very very small scuffs on the bottom of the charging port but only when I hold the phone very close to my eyes and specifically look for them.
It might also help that I haven't used the cable that came with it. At work I charge the phone using an old Blackberry cable and at home I've either used the cable from my PS4 controller or a high-speed fabric threaded one that I picked up on a market in Hong Kong last year. None of those cables have small studs on the micro-USB plug that I have seen on some other cables over the last few years. I have no idea what the included cable is like as it is still in the box untouched.

I wouldn't be happy if something that affects functionality shows up over time too.
Actually Mi Max USB port is very well protected from getting loose over time with that tight frame opening and that's why it gets some minor scuffs. I'd rather have that than loose port with weak electrical contacts. That's exactly what I had with my previous $850 Samsung Note3 in less than 6 months of use. Mi max won't develop this because USB cable connector is supported by the frame, not the port only...

micro USB
I believe that the micro USB - is a big mistake. Its construction took not engineers, and a herd of old. Built on a design twist on the wrong side. Back Lighting. Look into the micro USB - you see an unfortunate engineering decision. It's like Apple revenge, and we are paying the price. 5 contacts arranged on a plastic plate of 0.5 mm thick. Which hangs in the air. After 2 years of daily use, this plastic (probably made from waste and old bottles) turns into a rag. I have a phone with a cable fell onto the pillow !!! Now the connector loose. This occurs when the decisions are made by intriguers, not engineers, but the entire planet obeyed. Where were the engineers at the factories, and even in China? Are you afraid to say too much words and held on to his salary?
Based on the foregoing, Type-C with 24 contacts - even sillier.
Whiter than a weak structure, not protected from the slightest mechanical impact, it is difficult to come up with.
Perhaps a little magnetic cable will extend the life of my micro USB connector, although the charging current is reduced by approximately 25%.
In the USSR before the shot for wrecking the economy. In some ways, my grandfathers were right.

seregadushka said:
I believe that the micro USB - is a big mistake. Its construction took not engineers, and a herd of old. Built on a design twist on the wrong side. Back Lighting. Look into the micro USB - you see an unfortunate engineering decision. It's like Apple revenge, and we are paying the price. 5 contacts arranged on a plastic plate of 0.5 mm thick. Which hangs in the air. After 2 years of daily use, this plastic (probably made from waste and old bottles) turns into a rag. I have a phone with a cable fell onto the pillow !!! Now the connector loose. This occurs when the decisions are made by intriguers, not engineers, but the entire planet obeyed. Where were the engineers at the factories, and even in China? Are you afraid to say too much words and held on to his salary?
Based on the foregoing, Type-C with 24 contacts - even sillier.
Whiter than a weak structure, not protected from the slightest mechanical impact, it is difficult to come up with.
Perhaps a little magnetic cable will extend the life of my micro USB connector, although the charging current is reduced by approximately 25%.
In the USSR before the shot for wrecking the economy. In some ways, my grandfathers were right.
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Over heating/DVR issues?

Anyone had any over heating or DVR issues?.
Recently after nasty traffic trip of 2 hours (longest trip so far with this unit) I noticed that the OBDII torque app wouldn’t work (not unheard of) but then the sound attenuation wasn’t snapping off after nav directions, so I tried the volume knob and guess what no response, buttons not working and within seconds the whole unit packed up totally.
Did a reset and it was still glitchy.
Then I realised it was red hot, pulled the trim away and touched under the unit and it was burning hot.
Since then it’s crashed a few times and Waze (normally rock solid) has acted up with issues around gps signal being slower than my driving and just hanging and crashing.
Ps is the uk and it’s wet and cold, also tons of space inside the dash as it’s installed in a Van.
One thing at the time was that I have the usb in the glove box and at the time I was using it to keep my phone charged. Not sure if that was a factor?.
Since the. I’ve stopped charging the phone off that as I now have the DVR and DAB(not used the dab yet). But I’ve found the dvr cottage is jerky and that when running the DVR it causes the Rev cam footage to jump a few times too (sketchy when reversing in tight areas in the van).
So any one experienced over heating?, could one overheating event have damaged the cpu?, and could the DVR issue be related this?. Or does the DVR take a lot of processing power?.
Not an expert but when Inlookednin settings the rams never been used beyond 50% since the DVR was hooked up and the DVR is digital and the Rev cam is analog so why would it affect it?, but it really does.
Had a nightmare with separate dash cams (3 off amazon in a row had faults) so was hoping the dvr would be the answer.
Loath to lose it just today coming back from the woods with the family a Z4 nearly Head on’d us on a narrow lane as he swerved off the main road!!.
I’ve already agreed to return it to audio tech direct after Xmas as the green phone buttons dead but should I complain about the overheating and demand a replacement?. It’s only 2 months old

Give them a link to your post and google similar problems to find others with the same heat issue.
I installed 2 fans in my unit (not the same as yours) one directly on the cpu heatsync sucking the hot air off and another bigger pc fan that sucks the hot air out of the whole unit which is overkill but whatever lol

Hi, luckily they are replacing this one. Cooling wise I was thinking about sticking fans on the vent holes to suck hot air out and wire into the ignition so they come in with the radio, can attach on top externally and not void warranty. Won’t be able to add a heat sink though without opening up. Though I peeked into the Holes and there seem to be a corregated aluminium plate on top of the cpu, more ribbed than finned. Could that be a factory heat sink?
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I'm having exactly the same issue as you....
I have a PX5 Xtrons (GS) head unit and whenever i run Waze/Google Maps or any navigation app, after 30+ minutes , i get a "GPS lost, searching for GPS" message and the tracking starts to lag behind. Changing tracks/radio stations or volume at that time has a big delay. Today i got a "Temperature too hot" message and system shuts down.
How do i go about adding a fan/heat-sink onto these things? are there any tutorials etc?

Don’t know, there’s holes in top so I’m planning on a small 12v fan on top to suck the hot air out. Going to take a feed off the 12v power socket. Don’t want to open and stick heat sinks on as it’s under warranty but the fans can double tape externally.

Cid6.7 said:
Give them a link to your post and google similar problems to find others with the same heat issue.
I installed 2 fans in my unit (not the same as yours) one directly on the cpu heatsync sucking the hot air off and another bigger pc fan that sucks the hot air out of the whole unit which is overkill but whatever lol
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Can I ask how you powered your fans? I added a few heat-sinks to my system and although now it runs much smoother, temperatures do go up to 110-115 degrees Celsius. So now instead of becoming slow after 30 minutes, it now takes over an hour. I noticed a fan shaped hole in the back of my system which i am thinking about attaching a small fan on to to suck the warm air out.

alpha247 said:
Can I ask how you powered your fans? I added a few heat-sinks to my system and although now it runs much smoother, temperatures do go up to 110-115 degrees Celsius. So now instead of becoming slow after 30 minutes, it now takes over an hour. I noticed a fan shaped hole in the back of my system which i am thinking about attaching a small fan on to to suck the warm air out.
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I wired them to aux power in line and ground.
I plan on in the future finding a heat sensor so when the unit reaches a certain temp they'll turn on and off automatically

So my cheap fans arrived from China and I’ve temporarily taped them over the vent holes on the top, after some messing around I’ve opted to push cool air in so have placed them to blow into the top holes, can feel air coming out of the opposite top vent holes, hoping this will help till I work out how to duct the permanent cool duct my van has into the unit. Terrible radio interference when the fans are on now though and ideas how to avoid that?

It’s ok seems to have settled. Blue tooth is crapping out now so may just return.

General Google Pixel 7 Pro Disassembly Teardown Video

There is already a teardown video about the Google Pixel 7 Pro on YouTube that answers a couple of questions.
Google might take it down, since the phone hasn't been released yet, so you might want to be quick about watching it.
I'll add a couple screenshots with the visible part numbers as I watch the video.
Takeaway
- Fingerprint reader has another part number, should mean that it's either a new hardware revision (new version) or a different product line entirely
- Google still uses plastic clips - additional to adhesive - to fix the front display to the chassis. That is great for durability and later repair, since even with a bad adhesive placement, your phone will hold.
- USB-C connector is still soldered to the motherboard (terrible for repair)
- both sound speakers are massive, should deliver good sound quality
- Back glass is firmly glued to the frame, very difficult to remove; bad for repair, good for durability.
- Battery shrunk from 5007 to 5000 mAh
- Cooling still only done via copper/graphite sheets, no vapour chamber or other sophisticated cooling constructions
- Metal brackets and joists everywhere; should be a very durable phone
- Battery pull tabs still useless (as in every other phone), replacing the battery still requires alcohol or heat (don't to the latter, lithium ion batteries don't like heat)
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Phone chassis after display removal
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Fingerprint reader/scanner
Battery
5G Antenna (1, top right corner)
Camera Assembly
Topside earspeaker assembly is massive, should deliver decent sound
Front facing cam
Motherboard Upside
RAM and processor
Motherboard Underside
Dual antennas in both upper corners for potentially better connectivity
Antenna Board 2 part numbers

Looks like they're using more graphite to cover the board to help dissipate heat. Hopefully that will help a bit with the heat problems people often complain about on the Pixel 6 series.

Lughnasadh said:
Looks like they're using graphite instead of the copper used in the Pixel 6 to cover the board to help dissipate heat. Hopefully that will help a bit with the heat problems people often complain about on the Pixel 6 series.
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Hopefully, but it's high time that they went for a small vapour chamber, or a similar high quality cooling construction. Heat was an obvious problem for the P6, and looking at the raw data about the Tensor 2 (cores, nodes) that might become less of a problem, but it will surely not just go away. Especially when a company is trying to get away with a relatively old/inefficient node/processor, proper heat dissipation should be a top priority. A tiny piece of graphite might help with a couple %, but not more.

Any mention of a internal or external modem?

Good speaker and vibration but type c on motherboard...
rester555 said:
Any mention of a internal or external modem?
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Pixel 7 and 7 pro use Samsung Exynos Modem 5300

Linuxkek said:
Good speaker and vibration but type c on motherboard...
Pixel 7 and 7 pro use Samsung Exynos Modem 5300
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More specifically is it the 5300g?

rester555 said:
More specifically is it the 5300g?
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I found a press release from Samsung from yesterday. They "finally" announced the 5300 modem, but there was no mention of any revision (would have been unusual anyway, that's something internal that you don't communicate via press release) or any information on the capability of that modem.
Samsung Electronics Envisions Hyper-Growth in Memory and Logic Semiconductors Through Intensified Industry Collaborations at Samsung Tech Day 2022
A new wave of memory solutions and limitless partnership opportunities to bring greater capabilities to data center, server, mobile, gaming and automotive markets The System LSI Business emphasizes its role as a ‘total solution’ fabless that can optimize solutions for customers through...
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Brilliant, Thanks for sharing the video Might come in handy if and when I break something

Biggest disappointment for me is that the charging port isn't modular.

Another teardown video...