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So, I can use the OK GOOGLE command while the screen is off AND THE PHONE IS CHARGING
But, cannot get it to work OFF of the charger.
I hate/don't want to use S-Voice which apparently does work with the wake up command, but even that doesn't work. I say my command and S-Voice never kicks in.
Anyone else notice this? Anyone have it working?
any thoughts?
I'm trying so hard to not root.
You have three threads titled **device in hand ** going. What happens if you drop it in the toilet.
Upcoming thread:
**device in toilet** Still works after a dunk
testinguser said:
You have three threads titled **device in hand ** going. What happens if you drop it in the toilet.
Upcoming thread:
**device in toilet** Still works after a dunk
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that's funny.
lol.
say hi galaxy to wake the device up, how do you get "ok google" without a charger with root?
haldi15 said:
say hi galaxy to wake the device up, how do you get "ok google" without a charger with root?
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I thought the S6 would be like moto X which lets you use the google now functionality with the screen off... or is that moto own search assistant?
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I thought the S6 would be like moto X which lets you use the google now functionality with the screen off... or is that moto own search assistant?
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That ONLY works on Motorola phones. There's an app to try to hack it, but it wasn't working when I tried.
entropism said:
That ONLY works on Motorola phones. There's an app to try to hack it, but it wasn't working when I tried.
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Honestly, I thought I'd care and want it... but now that I think about it I really don't care.
lol.
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That ONLY works on Motorola phones. There's an app to try to hack it, but it wasn't working when I tried.
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Completely false. The Note 4 & Note 4 Edge are both capable, and I believe the S5 is too. Hence, the S6 is as well.
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Completely false. The Note 4 & Note 4 Edge are both capable, and I believe the S5 is too. Hence, the S6 is as well.
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Didn't know about the Note, because, well, I don't care much about the Note. A quick google search says you need an app to hack it on the S5 (as I mentioned), so saying "Hence, it's available for the S6" it's kind of incorrect. As for the S6, I have one in my hand and it doesn't work. It's not capable as of right now, and the only tutorial out there doesn't work.
Its not necessarily the fault of any phone. Google is to blame. In the OK detection options it says with phone locked while charging, and that indeed does work. Guess Google couldn't figure out how to do it like Motorola does without massive drain to the battery!
SVoice works and IMO is better from a locked, screen off position as it can still do some things, and haven't seen it show up at all in the battery screen nor GSAM battery monitor. I would think Samsung would have optimized SVoice for battery consumption since they slimmed down the batteries.
That said I would rather just have one voice app running and prefer Google now.
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Didn't know about the Note, because, well, I don't care much about the Note. A quick google search says you need an app to hack it on the S5 (as I mentioned), so saying "Hence, it's available for the S6" it's kind of incorrect. As for the S6, I have one in my hand and it doesn't work. It's not capable as of right now, and the only tutorial out there doesn't work.
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It would make absolutely zero sense for it to be included in the Note 4 but not the new flagship.
When I get my S6 tomorrow I will test it myself, but I am betting you missed a setting in S-Voice or something of that nature
I'll test the S5 when I get home
ingenious247 said:
It would make absolutely zero sense for it to be included in the Note 4 but not the new flagship.
When I get my S6 tomorrow I will test it myself, but I am betting you missed a setting in S-Voice or something of that nature
I'll test the S5 when I get home
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There's lots of stuff available in the Note that isn't in the S6, plus the menus are completely different. I'm not new to this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/google-voice-screen-off-t3069332/
Edit: You were even part of the thread...
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There's lots of stuff available in the Note that isn't in the S6, plus the menus are completely different. I'm not new to this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/google-voice-screen-off-t3069332/
Edit: You were even part of the thread...
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Never indicated that I thought you were "new to this", you can stop with the defensive approach
A little research and I found out the reason in 1 minute.
The Snapdragon 805 (which is in the Note 4) is set up to have an "always listening" mode. Since the S6 has the Exynos processor, that may be the reason. So at this point, I would say you are correct, as I do not have any further information at this time.
ingenious247 said:
Never indicated that I thought you were "new to this", you can stop with the defensive approach
A little research and I found out the reason in 1 minute.
The Snapdragon 805 (which is in the Note 4) is set up to have an "always listening" mode. Since the S6 has the Exynos processor, that may be the reason. So at this point, I would say you are correct, as I do not have any further information at this time.
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Eh, didn't mean to come off as defensive, so my apologies. Honestly, this entire section of XDA is starting to get a little toxic, and it's wearing on me. Again, sorry about that.
That being said, in theory it SHOULD work fine, as the Exynos has that feature for S-Voice, but I think we'll have to wait for the device to be out for a while for someone to figure out a fix.
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Eh, didn't mean to come off as defensive, so my apologies. Honestly, this entire section of XDA is starting to get a little toxic, and it's wearing on me. Again, sorry about that.
That being said, in theory it SHOULD work fine, as the Exynos has that feature for S-Voice, but I think we'll have to wait for the device to be out for a while for someone to figure out a fix.
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Perhaps this will work, but I don't know - at any rate, looks like I am wrong about the Exynos not having that ability
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/galax...k-google-works-even-when-screen-is-off-75334/
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Perhaps this will work, but I don't know - at any rate, looks like I am wrong about the Exynos not having that ability
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/galax...k-google-works-even-when-screen-is-off-75334/
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Reread the post I linked, which you were in. That link was mentioned, and we tried, and it failed for all of us. I think it WILL work (eventually, with a hack/app), but the software on the S6 is buggy as **** right now, and a lot of features aren't working as they should.
Half the time S-Voice doesn't even wake the phone, and that's SUPPOSED to be a feature.
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Reread the post I linked, which you were in. That link was mentioned, and we tried, and it failed for all of us. I think it WILL work (eventually, with a hack/app), but the software on the S6 is buggy as **** right now, and a lot of features aren't working as they should.
Half the time S-Voice doesn't even wake the phone, and that's SUPPOSED to be a feature.
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Sorry, I am at work and did not give your posts the attention to detail I should have
Mine will arrive tomorrow, I'll mess around with it and report back
Overview UI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq-DPSDxBIo
How To: Debloat S7 and S7 edge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb_vHmVaHn0
Thanks for sharing all the vids.
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FormeriPhoney said:
Overview UI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq-DPSDxBIo
How To: Debloat S7 and S7 edge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb_vHmVaHn0
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This is not a true debloat you are simply disabling the app and hiding it and once it updates it should reactivate.
A true debloat comes with root and uninstalling all the crap we dont need or want on our phone! I wish they would stop trying to make money. They already get us for at least $300 for the phone and then charge companies to put their crap on it so we can't get rid of it...
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This is not a true debloat you are simply disabling the app and hiding it and once it updates it should reactivate.
A true debloat comes with root and uninstalling all the crap we dont need or want on our phone! I wish they would stop trying to make money. They already get us for at least $300 for the phone and then charge companies to put their crap on it so we can't get rid of it...
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I'm pretty sure when you disable apps, they don't run in the background and also won't be able to get updates unless they are enabled.
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I'm pretty sure when you disable apps, they don't run in the background and also won't be able to get updates unless they are enabled.
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That is what I thought too. But I have had several over the years such as Polaris office (on my s3, s4, and s5) that I disable on day one to find out that it has updated and re-enabled the app sometime down the road. Maybe because I have it set up to auto update but if it is disabled then it shouldn't look for it. I'm not sure that is just what has happened to me.
I'm debating between the two. I have a change to get one soon but I'm leaning on keeping the S7e since the U firmware runs well. I also think the S7e looks way better than the XL. It also means giving up SPay, Qi, IP68, compact body,... But Android 7.0 with the new goodies... hmmmm
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Samsung Pay, and the sleek look of the S7edge are the only things that keep me on.
I've never liked the camera UI of vanilla android.... also water resistant, sd card support & big ass battery
wait for the Galaxy S8 edge it will have all the upgraded specs and way more.
to get rid of touchwiz..... in a heartbeat
I'll put an end to this. The S7 Edge has the following advantages over the Pixel XL:
Bigger battery
Edge shortcuts
Waterproof
Better always on display
SD card
Wireless charging
Floating window
Screen gets brighter in daylight and darker at night
Scroll capture
Samsung widgets, magazine, weather, calendar..
Can still use JOD
Can use T-Mobile insurance
Samsung backup
Samsung pay
Better price
Dimensions are way better
As you can see the choice is a no-brainer. Shouldn't even require any thought actually. The only thing the Pixel has is android 7.1 and some software tricks for the camera. 7.1 doesn't do much (I have it on my Nexus) and the photos look better in all lighting conditions on the S7e, even though the Pixel has really great stabilization and is faster at snapping the photo.
The only thing the Pixel has is android 7.1 and some software tricks for the camera.
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...Yeah, what's "real root on a usable kernel" anyway?
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...Yeah, what's "real root on a usable kernel" anyway?
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I don't know why don't you explain to me exactly what you'll be gaining with root. And then explain how that is worth throwing away android pay.
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I don't know why don't you explain to me exactly what you'll be gaining with root. And then explain how that is worth throwing away android pay.
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Host-file based ad blocking, Xposed and everything that goes along with that, viper, freezing system apps you don't like, DriveDroid...
All for the low low price of "having to swipe a credit card instead of tapping your phone on a thing"
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Host-file based ad blocking, Xposed and everything that goes along with that, viper, freezing system apps you don't like, DriveDroid...
All for the low low price of "having to swipe a credit card instead of tapping your phone on a thing"
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Ad blocking can be done without root.
Viper is buggy and totally unnecessary.
Freezing system apps can be done without root.
DriveDroid? Lol
Xposed is the only decent thing on your list and even it is buggy and questionable.
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Ad blocking can be done without root.
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Not very effectively
seh6183 said:
Viper is buggy and totally unnecessary.
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Untrue, dont even know where to start on this..
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Freezing system apps can be done without root.
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Again yea kinda
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Xposed is the only decent thing on your list and even it is buggy and questionable.
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WTF are you even doing on XDA? Are you a shill for closed systems and locked bootloaders? If you are that naive about the benefits of real root then you really should do some homework.
Custom roms
debloating
Overclocking
Expanded app features
Root explorer and the like (and if you say samsungs file manger is good enough I'll beat you with a sack of doorknobs)
Titanium backup
X touchwiz
Feature tweaking and customization
Busybox
Actual Privacy control
Actual control to do what you want with your property
And more, not to mention each of those has a bunch of reasons all their own.
Android and samsung pay and any other mobile pay option are jokes. I have credit cards that also are tap and pay and have been for many years. You feel free to explain why something available in cards already is worth throwing all that away just to put it on a phone that is unless all youre doing is trolling.
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Not very effectively
Untrue, dont even know where to start on this..
Again yea kinda
WTF are you even doing on XDA? Are you a shill for closed systems and locked bootloaders? If you are that naive about the benefits of real root then you really should do some homework.
Custom roms
debloating
Overclocking
Expanded app features
Root explorer and the like (and if you say samsungs file manger is good enough I'll beat you with a sack of doorknobs)
Titanium backup
X touchwiz
Feature tweaking and customization
Busybox
Actual Privacy control
Actual control to do what you want with your property
And more, not to mention each of those has a bunch of reasons all their own.
Android and samsung pay and any other mobile pay option are jokes. I have credit cards that also are tap and pay and have been for many years. You feel free to explain why something available in cards already is worth throwing all that away just to put it on a phone that is unless all youre doing is trolling.
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Ad blocking is not very effective without root? I don't see a single ad, don't have root. Seems pretty effective to me.
I have 180 apps frozen on my phone right now. What is this "kinda" you speak of?
XDA was created when phones NEEDED to be rooted and tweaked just to make them enjoyable. The OEMs are eliminating the need for root one item at a time and eventually it will be totally unnecessary. Believe it or don't but that's reality and it will hit you in the face like a ton of bricks in the next year or two.
Every single thing that you mentioned can be done without root or is unnecessary.
If you have to have those features you mentioned, excellent then go ahead and choose a phone that can be rooted, and root your heart out so you can change the color of your status bar LOL
I personally prefer not to give up things such as Samsung pay. If you cant wrap your head around why Samsung pay is popular and useful then there is nothing I can say to educate you. Maybe you don't even know what mst is? Anyway have fun with whatever it is that you do.
Your arrogance is amazing, do you purport know better than everyone else?
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Ad blocking is not very effective without root? I don't see a single ad, don't have root. Seems pretty effective to me.
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LOL wow so because you dont have any adds that means the method you use is just as good for everyone? If everyone uses your method there would be no adds whatsoever, is that what you are saying?
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I have 180 apps frozen on my phone right now. What is this "kinda" you speak of?
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As for freezing, you cant freeze certain system apps w/o root that's why I said kinda. See how that works? Not to mention the overall problem of freezing instead of removing. But yea keep the bloatware and limit your space.
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XDA was created when phones NEEDED to be rooted and tweaked just to make them enjoyable. The OEMs are eliminating the need for root one item at a time and eventually it will be totally unnecessary. Believe it or don't but that's reality and it will hit you in the face like a ton of bricks in the next year or two.
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As far as you rationale on xda and rooting, OEMs are not eliminating the need for root, otherwise most people wouldnt be on here. And who are you to say what is needed to make other's phones more enjoyable? The fact that people want root is indicative of their need to make modifications to make their phone enjoyable to them. And also is that why the international versions have unlocked bootloaders? To educate you, OEMS lock bootloaders at the request of carriers. Locked bootloaders have been available to be instituted for many years, and seeing as US carriers are starting to utilize them the demand for unlocked phones are increasing.
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-introduces-unlocked-galaxy-s7-and-galaxy-s7-edge-in-the-u-s
Samsung even admits it and has released a carrier independent unlocked s7
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Every single thing that you mentioned can be done without root or is unnecessary.
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Again who says its unnecessary? You? Since when do you speak for the majority?
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If you have to have those features you mentioned, excellent then go ahead and choose a phone that can be rooted, and root your heart out so you can change the color of your status bar LOL
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Again I will and many others will to due to our need to make our phones more enjoyable
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I personally prefer not to give up things such as Samsung pay. If you cant wrap your head around why Samsung pay is popular and useful then there is nothing I can say to educate you.
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AGAIN so... because you have settled on that tradeoff and others dont agree with your opinion, you are saying that we must not be educated? What a narrow world view, agree with everything I say and do or you're wrong and must be corrected. The Nazis had the same idea but took it a step further and eliminated opposition.
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Maybe you don't even know what mst is?
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Do you? Yes I know what MST is, its Samsung's latest push towards wireless payment technology utilizing NFC. And if the merchant doesnt use it then samsung pay will go ahead and use older "Less Secure" Technology or wont work at all resulting in you having to pull out your bank card and use it either by tap and pay, chip or good old fashioned swiping.
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Anyway have fun with whatever it is that you do.
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Yes, I like many others, will keep trying to get real root because of OUR need to make our devices more enjoyable.
Oh and btw I forgot to mention Xposed by itself, does absolutely nothing, its a framework for root apps to make the modifications and in fact most apps are quite stable on real root. Real root enables the users to fix and streamline the performance of their devices not just customize. Like disabling DVFS, odex/deodex, custom kernels, these are not for aesthetic purposes but functional. To make up for problems like this
http://bgr.com/2016/03/25/galaxy-s7-performance-test-us-vs-global-pt-2/
But keep drinking the koolaid and insist that security is paramount to freedom. The establishment will love you for it.
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a bunch of annoying babbling
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Look buddy take a hike. No one cares. Go to a forum for a phone that has "proper root" and tell them about how much you love root and all the cool things you can do with it.
The fact of the matter is, like I've stated before, almost everything can be accomplished without root. I don't need you to believe this for it to be fact.
Go buy the inferior pixel so you can load a custom rom that allows you to have a floating side bar or buggy app addons and then wait for the dev to fix them all.
Either way just go away. This isn't a root thread, it's about the s7e vs the pixel and I've already blown that argument out of the water.
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Look buddy take a hike. No one cares. Go to a forum for a phone that has "proper root" and tell them about how much you love root and all the cool things you can do with it.
The fact of the matter is, like I've stated before, almost everything can be accomplished without root. I don't need you to believe this for it to be fact.
Go buy the inferior pixel so you can load a custom rom that allows you to have a floating side bar or buggy app addons and then wait for the dev to fix them all.
Either way just go away. This isn't a root thread, it's about the s7e vs the pixel and I've already blown that argument out of the water.
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LOL awwwww did I make the troll mad? "the fact of the matter is" I respond with structured facts and refrences, you refuse to refute my points with anything other than a tantrum and unfounded opinions. YOU were the one that tried to act like everything you said was fact with no proof, You began this debate and now that its plain to see that you have no real ground to stand on, you are gonna knock the pieces off the board. And apparently people care, you may not but others do. So your "No one cares" is yet another unfounded opinion that has no basis in truth. And as far as going to a forum where people care about root, I did, that's what XDA is, all of it! Its XDA DEVELOPERS! Maybe you should find a new site to spout your locked bootloader/anti root vitrol and where you can refuse to act like a reasonable adult. LMFAO.
All my ads are blocked.
I can freeze every single process on my phone.
You don't know how mst works.
FAIL.
Im eating popcorn while reading all this.
I would not trade the GS7E for a pixel or any other Google branded phone. Had bad experiences with prior Nexus phones. To put it simply, the plusses of this phone easily outweigh the plusses of the pixel, which really is only that it has stock Android and quick updates. I couldn't care less about root, as another poster stated, ad blocking and freezing apps can be done without. Never had good experiences with xposed. And lastly, if you want the UI to look stock, Samsung good lock has you covered. Overall, this phone doesn't lag, doesn't crash, has excellent battery life, water resistance, and reasonably quick updates. Life is too short to deal with rooting and other nonsense. I want a phone that works with minimal input from me, and this gives me that.
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You don't know how mst works.
FAIL.
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This is literally all I saw...the failure to realise what MST is and/or how it works. NFC is kind of weak...android pay uses it some cards have it the samsung gear s2 watch uses it for sam pay....but mst...mst since nobody wanted to educate the other guy...creates an electromagnetic field of sorts that mimics the magnetic frequency resonance whatever what have you of said card (well actually a secondary card number to protect yours) to emulate a card swipe...works places NOTHING else does..android pay apple pay paypal none of them work because you are in the country somewhere at some hillbilly gasstation that has only a card reader...sam pay will save you. It should even work with square pay readers ?. I will say though...v4a Viper4Android...is VERY useful especially if you are an audiophile. No other app compares...period...coming from someone with an s7e that isnt rooter because i use sam pay. And i must say yea i miss the abilities of a rooted phone...but ive been fine since march without. Also heard tmobile was checking to see if devices were rooted now on insurance....i already cracked my screen once(sparks shooting across the room actually did it)...if thats true i would have been a $$ out if rooted...oh and to answer your question...not in a million years...tmobiles bill credit isnt even enticing enough coupled with the note7 fiasco. Ill be getting the 5.5 s8 or s8e however they will market the moniker as soon as it drops
I didn't want to explain mst to the guy because I was hoping he would continue to live his life believing that mst is just nfc lol
I guess I just don't see what is so great about viper. An equalizer is very important to me but that is built into the apps these days. All the other functions of viper are unimportant to me. I'm not an audiophile so I'm probably missing it, but adding an echo or virtual surround to my music is not important. And I've had bugs and drain with viper before (only on certain devices)
I know there are threads regarding how to remove Bloatware and the various apps ...... but this is a specific question to ask if people really find it helpful to remove stuff and why ?? And are there any downsides?
Preface this with in the day of custom ROMs often the developer had “done the work for us” when streamlining stuff.
I just don’t want to go the route of removing or disabling stuff if people are really finding it helpful
Thanks
I've never ever done it. Never found the need. Battery life and performance has never been an issue for me. And I've owned the S7E, S8+, S9+, S10+, S10 5G, S20 Ultra and Note 20 Ultra 5G.
Depending on what you remove, it can/will disable some useful features. I don't see the point removing anything on an expensive flagship when there's no need, especially when there's little to no gain.
Personally, i remove all the bloatware with revo uninstaller. Bloatware are simply garbage and useless, it's make your smartphone slow. You can't uninstall all bloatwares if not your phone crashes.
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I've never ever done it. Never found the need. Battery life and performance has never been an issue for me. And I've owned the S7E, S8+, S9+, S10+, S10 5G, S20 Ultra and Note 20 Ultra 5G.
Depending on what you remove, it can/will disable some useful features. I don't see the point removing anything on an expensive flagship when there's no need, especially when there's little to no gain.
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Just curious have your devices been the exyons versions?
I live in the UK and always had exynos and never really had any problems but there is tones of hate for exynos
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Just curious have your devices been the exyons versions?
I live in the UK and always had exynos and never really had any problems but there is tones of hate for exynos
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Yep, all Exynos here in Australia. Never had any issues with them. A lot of the Exynos hae is just people jumping on the bandwagon.
Sure it performs worse than SD on benchmarks etc, but who buys a phone to run benchmarks? I don't care if the SD runs a little better than mine. As long as mien does what I need it to do with enough performance, I have no problem with that. And it works perfectly fine, no battery issues,no heat issues. I love mine
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I've never ever done it. Never found the need. Battery life and performance has never been an issue for me. And I've owned the S7E, S8+, S9+, S10+, S10 5G, S20 Ultra and Note 20 Ultra 5G.
Depending on what you remove, it can/will disable some useful features. I don't see the point removing anything on an expensive flagship when there's no need, especially when there's little to no gain.
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Thanks for the advice — I have to admit that I loved custom ROMs in the past that had quite a bit of stuff removed but when it was all said and done it didn’t really increase performance , maybe just appearance ... in the “stock” android direction. I’m sure there is a lot of stuff that I might choose to remove but when it was said and done not really know how it could effect other things —- Thanks for your experience
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Thanks for the advice — I have to admit that I loved custom ROMs in the past that had quite a bit of stuff removed but when it was all said and done it didn’t really increase performance , maybe just appearance ... in the “stock” android direction. I’m sure there is a lot of stuff that I might choose to remove but when it was said and done not really know how it could effect other things —- Thanks for your experience
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Yea, I used to be the same, in the past with custom ROMs. I used to make my own custom ROMs for pre-Android Windows Mobile devices. Then in Android I'd like ROMs with a lot of stuff removed. But later decided I preferred stock, or custom with not as much removed, as there was no difference. It was just more of a placebo. I prefer to have everything in the phone working as it was designed.
Sure, I uninstall some preinstalled software such as Spotify, but certainly nothing more than that. No debloating.
i do and you know why i do? because i can. this aint no damn iphone where it's on lockdown. simple as that
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Yea, I used to be the same, in the past with custom ROMs. I used to make my own custom ROMs for pre-Android Windows Mobile devices. Then in Android I'd like ROMs with a lot of stuff removed. But later decided I preferred stock, or custom with not as much removed, as there was no difference. It was just more of a placebo. I prefer to have everything in the phone working as it was designed.
Sure, I uninstall some preinstalled software such as Spotify, but certainly nothing more than that. No debloating.
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Was looking at your bio on your response. I live in the USA, but my son lived in Australia for about a year and a half - he loved it! I just told him a few days ago , he’s single and 29 yo, that maybe with all the crap going on in the USA maybe he should move back to Australia !! You guys have a beautiful country according to my son !!!
the_scotsman said:
I've never ever done it. Never found the need. Battery life and performance has never been an issue for me. And I've owned the S7E, S8+, S9+, S10+, S10 5G, S20 Ultra and Note 20 Ultra 5G.
Depending on what you remove, it can/will disable some useful features. I don't see the point removing anything on an expensive flagship when there's no need, especially when there's little to no gain.
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Hmmm you are in Austrailia ,correct me if I am wrong. I am thinking U.S carriers put waaay more bloatware on the phones as compared to carriers in other countries
Yea, I really don't want all the games and **** att adds. At least the games uninstall, some of the att crap just disables.
i use package disabler to disable bloatware, works like a charm
jcrompton said:
Was looking at your bio on your response. I live in the USA, but my son lived in Australia for about a year and a half - he loved it! I just told him a few days ago , he’s single and 29 yo, that maybe with all the crap going on in the USA maybe he should move back to Australia !! You guys have a beautiful country according to my son !!!
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Yea, Australia is an amazing country. I absolutely love it here. I moved here from Scotland back in 2001 when I was 21 (met and married an Aussie ). Scotland is also a beautiful coutry in it's own right. But I love the heat, the laid back lifestyle, and the vast landscape of Australia. :good:
It's the perfect place for a single bloke to live :laugh:
jionny said:
Hmmm you are in Austrailia ,correct me if I am wrong. I am thinking U.S carriers put waaay more bloatware on the phones as compared to carriers in other countries
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This could be a fair point. I've never used a US phone, and US carriers may well put more crap in their devices. But from the debloat lists I've seen on the forum, a lot of thigns that get removed aren't bloat, they're actual services, both Android and Samsung.
So sure, I would agree to removing all the carrier specific crap, but I wouldn't remove anything more. That's just me though
the_scotsman said:
Yep, all Exynos here in Australia. Never had any issues with them. A lot of the Exynos hae is just people jumping on the bandwagon.
Sure it performs worse than SD on benchmarks etc, but who buys a phone to run benchmarks? I don't care if the SD runs a little better than mine. As long as mien does what I need it to do with enough performance, I have no problem with that. And it works perfectly fine, no battery issues,no heat issues. I love mine
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Totally agree I've had nothing but exynos and all seemed to do just fine I had the s20 ultra briefly which did seem to get warm quite quick but my note 20 ultra seems to run a lot cooler and battery life is better even tho its smaller
Totally of topic but my girlfriends family are from Scotland and one of her brothers have done the exact same thing met a girl in aussie and stayed there said its the best thing he has ever done lol :good:
muzhik said:
i use package disabler to disable bloatware, works like a charm
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So Package Disabler Pro (Samsung) works? Will buy if so. Just ordered mine, waiting for it to get shipped.
I would suggest using CCSWE instead. Unlike PDP it doesn't asks for another purchase when changing or restoring phones. In addition, there seems to be issues with it on Android 10. Backup export/import is not working
raul6 said:
I would suggest using CCSWE instead. Unlike PDP it doesn't asks for another purchase when changing or restoring phones. In addition, there seems to be issues with it on Android 10. Backup export/import is not working
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I used it on the Note 10+ but 4-5 months ago it stopped working and wasn't working in August when I got the Note 20 Ultra, something about the author not keeping his Knox license current. Have the issue been fixed? I have it and Package Disabler pro but have switched to PD Pro because of his issues. I have had not issues with backup, export, import or having to buy anything else when restoring phone on PD Pro.
ggrant3876 said:
Have the issue been fixed?
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Yes, all resolved and working again. And it can be reinstalled with previous licence honored, as it should be
monocle503 said:
So Package Disabler Pro (Samsung) works? Will buy if so. Just ordered mine, waiting for it to get shipped.
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Yes, it works perfectly on note20 ultra
muzhik said:
Yes, it works perfectly on note20 ultra
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I use PD MDM because with all the other Playstore blockers Sammy* ended up leaning on them to remove blocking for AT&T Software Updates.
I block apk this like religion.
PD MDM is not on Playstore anymore so the rules have changed in their favor.
Zero issues with it on the 10+ running on Pie. License transferred automatically after last 2 reloads.
*remember AT&T and Samsung are partnered...
Has anyone figured out or come across a method of disabling the attached app? ADB method is futile
com.tmobile.echolocate
Only alternative that comes to mind is flashing the U1 firmware.
Same here on both the Note20 & Ultra versions.
I even tried to uninstall via ADB to no avail.
Seriously considering installing the US unlocked firmware.
using Insular app maybe
Freeze using SD Maid or Titanium?
@raul6
Not quite getting how Insular would help.
Sounds like a copy of the app is sandboxed, but, the other copy is still active.
If I'm missing something, please elaborate.
@elmor0
Not rooted, SD Maid/Titanium are of no help in this situation.
Most any other bloatware is able to be frozen/disabled via ADB, but,this one isn't, on an unrooted device.
KOLIOSIS said:
Same here on both the Note20 & Ultra versions.
I even tried to uninstall via ADB to no avail.
Seriously considering installing the US unlocked firmware.
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Hello how are you? Long time no see, good seeing you on here.
Right back at ya.
Yeah,it's been a while,not on as much as w/previous phones (equally because the site changes a while back were buggy,better now,but,still getting used to the new look & feel).
New to the Note 20 Ultra,I probably wouldn't have gotten it if not for a generous Mother's Day trade-in value on the LG Wing ($800).
I've had the regular Note 20 for quite a while now. Too bad the RAM & Storage take a hit vs the Ultra,otherwise it's a solid phone.
From what I gather,there'll be a trade-off if flashing from T-Mo to US Unlocked firmware,in that eSIM is MIA on the latter.
I think I'm going to go ahead & do it anyway,eSIM isn't a must-have,but,it does suck that one has to choose & make a compromise.
I saw that you came from the S21 Ultra........ I probably would have got that,but,the bulk of a case that can hold an S-Pen was a deal breaker. Otherwise,I'm guessing the overall performance is noticeably better than the Note 20 Ultra.
Package Disabler... it gets the AT&T update parasite.
@blackhawk
Which one are you using?
If from the Google Play Store, can you post the link?
I'm currently using the PC tool ADB App Control. It's an awesome tool, but, neither it nor regular ADB commands are working in removing the T-Mobile Diagnostic Tool app.
KOLIOSIS said:
@blackhawk
Which one are you using?
If from the Google Play Store, can you post the link?
I'm currently using the PC tool ADB App Control. It's an awesome tool, but, neither it nor regular ADB commands are working in removing the T-Mobile Diagnostic Tool app.
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This is the only one that consistently works year after year.
This recent version doesn't list Google play Services so I have to manually disable it in apps, WTF? It still lists and blocks AT&T updates from running though. It's a yearly subscription now and cloud based however once it's installed you can firewall block it (which I do) with no harm.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
You can also call the carrier and have (demand) them to disable it on their end. Did that with AT&T but if you get another device you'll need to do it again. It took some head banging to find an advance tech there to do it.
KOLIOSIS said:
Right back at ya.
Yeah,it's been a while,not on as much as w/previous phones (equally because the site changes a while back were buggy,better now,but,still getting used to the new look & feel).
New to the Note 20 Ultra,I probably wouldn't have gotten it if not for a generous Mother's Day trade-in value on the LG Wing ($800).
I've had the regular Note 20 for quite a while now. Too bad the RAM & Storage take a hit vs the Ultra,otherwise it's a solid phone.
From what I gather,there'll be a trade-off if flashing from T-Mo to US Unlocked firmware,in that eSIM is MIA on the latter.
I think I'm going to go ahead & do it anyway,eSIM isn't a must-have,but,it does suck that one has to choose & make a compromise.
I saw that you came from the S21 Ultra........ I probably would have got that,but,the bulk of a case that can hold an S-Pen was a deal breaker. Otherwise,I'm guessing the overall performance is noticeably better than the Note 20 Ultra.
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Good seeing you back. In regards to the S21U, I ordered one in 256GB from Samsung direct, had an issue and sent it back the next day, the screen on the particular one I had, had severe color shift even at a slightest angle. I just couldn't live with that. So now I'm back again in the Note 20U again, this time a mystic black TMO model. Previous was bronze and before that it was a white dual sim south American model and a few other devices in between.
I think I'm going to the same, and flash U1. There was also a lot of Sprint apps on it also.
@Limeybastard
How ya liking the Sprint-TMo merger so far?
My phone hopping has slowed down somewhat, phones are getting too pricey & the pace of innovation has slowed a bit vs 2-3 yrs ago. 5G compatibility w/the imports is my biggest deterrent ,too bad,lot of cool devices from Xiaomi/Vivo/OPPO,etc.......
Definitely interested in going to US unlocked firmware,but,I came across a how-to thread here that seems to indicate swapping from U1 to carrier & vice-versa on BL2 is broke.
[Guide] - eSim Firmware Flash/ Odin Upgrade/ Flashing and N986U to N986U1 & Vice Versa
Instructions are updated to get eSIM INTRODUCTION - Firstly sorry for posting this as this is common knowledge for many. I still see so many people asking the same questions again and again and i do want to help so decided to write a guide. If...
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Sounds like this applies to our phones.......or,am I missing something here
blackhawk said:
This is the only one that consistently works year after year.
This recent version doesn't list Google play Services so I have to manually disable it in apps, WTF? It still lists and blocks AT&T updates from running though. It's a yearly subscription now and cloud based however once it's installed you can firewall block it (which I do) with no harm.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
You can also call the carrier and have (demand) them to disable it on their end. Did that with AT&T but if you get another device you'll need to do it again. It took some head banging to find an advance tech there to do it.
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Reference firewall, I tried using Karma firewall , but it creates a constant VPN connection.
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@Limeybastard
How ya liking the Sprint-TMo merger so far?
My phone hopping has slowed down somewhat, phones are getting too pricey & the pace of innovation has slowed a bit vs 2-3 yrs ago. 5G compatibility w/the imports is my biggest deterrent ,too bad,lot of cool devices from Xiaomi/Vivo/OPPO,etc.......
Definitely interested in going to US unlocked firmware,but,I came across a how-to thread here that seems to indicate swapping from U1 to carrier & vice-versa on BL2 is broke.
[Guide] - eSim Firmware Flash/ Odin Upgrade/ Flashing and N986U to N986U1 & Vice Versa
Instructions are updated to get eSIM INTRODUCTION - Firstly sorry for posting this as this is common knowledge for many. I still see so many people asking the same questions again and again and i do want to help so decided to write a guide. If...
forum.xda-developers.com
Sounds like this applies to our phones.......or,am I missing something here
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In my neck of the woods I have seen some slight improvement in 4G LTE speeds, I can also get a 5G signal which is unfortunately slower than LTE for me, so I just keep mine set to LTE 3g 2g etc mode.
The lack of carrier aggregation was my biggest turn off in regards to non USA devices. Lack of 5G not so much of a concern.
Unfortunately I updated mine to BL2 so if that's the case then we'll have to wait until U1 is available to us. Oh well. ..
Limeybastard said:
Reference firewall, I tried using Karma firewall , but it creates a constant VPN connection.
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It's a VPN based firewall.
It uses almost no battery... is there something I missed?
Limeybastard said:
In my neck of the woods I have seen some slight improvement in 4G LTE speeds, I can also get a 5G signal which is unfortunately slower than LTE for me, so I just keep mine set to LTE 3g 2g etc mode.
The lack of carrier aggregation was my biggest turn off in regards to non USA devices. Lack of 5G not so much of a concern.
Unfortunately I updated mine to BL2 so if that's the case then we'll have to wait until U1 is available to us. Oh well. ..
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Hang on a minute as my memory is getting awful with age, we're on bootloader 2 correct ? If memory serves me correctly we can't flash to U1 firmware bootloader version 1? But I think there is U1 firmware on bootloader version 2 available now.
blackhawk said:
It's a VPN based firewall.
It uses almost no battery... is there something I missed?
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No, thanks for the clarification. I tried it but panicked and uninstalled it
KOLIOSIS said:
@Limeybastard
How ya liking the Sprint-TMo merger so far?
My phone hopping has slowed down somewhat, phones are getting too pricey & the pace of innovation has slowed a bit vs 2-3 yrs ago. 5G compatibility w/the imports is my biggest deterrent ,too bad,lot of cool devices from Xiaomi/Vivo/OPPO,etc.......
Definitely interested in going to US unlocked firmware,but,I came across a how-to thread here that seems to indicate swapping from U1 to carrier & vice-versa on BL2 is broke.
[Guide] - eSim Firmware Flash/ Odin Upgrade/ Flashing and N986U to N986U1 & Vice Versa
Instructions are updated to get eSIM INTRODUCTION - Firstly sorry for posting this as this is common knowledge for many. I still see so many people asking the same questions again and again and i do want to help so decided to write a guide. If...
forum.xda-developers.com
Sounds like this applies to our phones.......or,am I missing something here
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I'm afraid you're correct. They want to lock you in to Android's flat spin to hell.
The AT&T 4G stock Note 10+/Pie performs well after some... adjustments
That and maybe the Note 20U are the only Samsung's I would consider as Samsung's latter offerings are weak. Android 11 is a disaster and 10 is probably a downgrade from Pie.
Android is on track to be a flaming wreck if Gookill can't pull out of the flat spin it put its self in.
All in all I'm considering buying another Note 10+ 512gb 4G mostly for the extra ram. The 20U has faster memory/cpu but is handicapped by Q.
Slim pickens in my opinion... the N10+ is fast with a gorgeous display. It lacks the rounded corners displays which I loathe, being a CRT raised child The only downside to the perfectly square corners is the need for a good case. These corner hitting Notes will get destroyed without one.
Limeybastard said:
No, thanks for the clarification. I tried it but panicked and uninstalled it
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I've been running it for about 6 months. It's always on as it cuts my battery usage by blocking apps like Android Services from constantly polling the internet. Accubattery is also a habitual offender.
It's been a valuable tool in tracking down battery hogs and data mining apps. I have yet to see any misbehavior from it. A near perfect app.
It's valuble logging feature doesn't work on Q and and above I been told. Thanks Gookill...
blackhawk said:
I'm afraid you're correct. They want to lock you in to Android's flat spin to hell.
The AT&T 4G stock Note 10+/Pie performs well after some... adjustments
That and maybe the Note 20U are the only Samsung's I would consider as Samsung's latter offerings are weak. Android 11 is a disaster and 10 is probably a downgrade from Pie.
Android is on track to be a flaming wreck if Gookill can't pull out of the flat spin it put its self in.
All in all I'm considering buying another Note 10+ 512gb 4G mostly for the extra ram. The 20U has faster memory/cpu but is handicapped by Q.
Slim pickens in my opinion... the N10+ is fast with a gorgeous display. It lacks the rounded corners displays which I loathe, being a CRT raised child The only downside to the perfectly square corners is the need for a good case. These corner hitting Notes will get destroyed without one.
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You need to get a N20U, it'll all be good after a few tweaks. Try it , you'll thank me later.