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Hello everyone,
I've been hopping around, trying to do some research on this but decided to make a post to confirm and also in hopes of informing others.
Is it true that once rooting the Note 5, we permanently lose Samsung Pay abilities due to tripping the KNOX meter?
Thanks!
Yes, the way Samsung designed Samsung pay is to make it as secure as possible, and unfortunately that includes blocking access on modded devices. Is there a way around this? I belive it would have to involve tricking Knox and I don't think it will be easy.
With that said, the galaxy s6 had a root that didn't trip knox. Even still, had to be extremely careful after that with flashing roms and such but it was b possible.
It's really the only thing that's going to make me think twice about rooting.
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Indeed. I know there are alternatives like PayPal but what about Android Pay? Will we still be able to use that as an alternative, after root?
I dug around the Korean Samsung pay apk that's floating around and I found where it's doing that check, it's just a matter of disabling it and seeing it it works. Also, the string says something to the effect of "this application won't work on rooted devices for security, please unroot your device to use Samsung pay". Notice it says unroot. We'll see what the reality is when we get our hands on the final US apk.
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This is my only concern at this point. While I don't know for sure how much if at all I'll be using Samsung Pay, I don't want to root and trip Knox quite yet so I can at least try it when it's released.
You guys are exactly in my situation. I want root but i think samsung pay might be a nice feature.. speacially sonce it works anywhere eith a card reader, not just tap and go.. only if they swipe only. Some how samsung pay still works... thats awesome
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egren58 said:
You guys are exactly in my situation. I want root but i think samsung pay might be a nice feature.. speacially sonce it works anywhere eith a card reader, not just tap and go.. only if they swipe only. Some how samsung pay still works... thats awesome
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It has a magnet that emukayes your cards magnetic strip
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It has a magnet that emukayes your cards magnetic strip
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All i know is thats awsome
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What about if we used root cloak and or Xprivacy on xposed to hide detection of root or somthing? Maybe somone needs to create an app like root cloak that his the detection of it checking if you tripped Knox? Also why is everyone so worried about Samsung Pay Google Wallet allows you to use the app on rooted debices and it does the NFC paying and they send you a physical debit card. You can even send money to people through the app too.
Does Samsung Pay have some extra cool feature that Google Wallet Doesn't? I'm just asking cause I haven't looked into Samsung Pay. In my opinion if a pay system app can't be used on r root I'm not sure if I trust the app because they might think it will be hacked but they need to make it secure on all aspects.
I've been accepted into Samsung Pay beta testing and unfortunately since I've tripped knox this is what happens. I have the apk files for both the app and framework.
Deathbyillusion said:
What about if we used root cloak and or Xprivacy on xposed to hide detection of root or somthing? Maybe somone needs to create an app like root cloak that his the detection of it checking if you tripped Knox? Also why is everyone so worried about Samsung Pay Google Wallet allows you to use the app on rooted debices and it does the NFC paying and they send you a physical debit card. You can even send money to people through the app too.
Does Samsung Pay have some extra cool feature that Google Wallet Doesn't? I'm just asking cause I haven't looked into Samsung Pay. In my opinion if a pay system app can't be used on r root I'm not sure if I trust the app because they might think it will be hacked but they need to make it secure on all aspects.
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I agree 1,000%. Google Wallet is accepted at a lot of places and works well while rooted. If I have to part with Samsung Pay to 1) Turn the camera shutter sound off on my phone via Root Explorer...2) Disable a bunch of Samsung bloat I don't use...3) Have the ability to back up my apps and data as well as restore them...4)Customize my phone using XPosed and Wanam on a deodexed stock rom...etc, then it's not even a close trade off. I'm going with root 3 times out of 4.
Deathbyillusion said:
Does Samsung Pay have some extra cool feature that Google Wallet Doesn't? I'm just asking cause I haven't looked into Samsung Pay. In my opinion if a pay system app can't be used on r root I'm not sure if I trust the app because they might think it will be hacked but they need to make it secure on all aspects.
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Yes, Samsung Pay uses MST (magnetic secure transmission), aka the tech they acquired from LoopPay. This allows you to use your phone to pay at terminals, even if they don't have NFC. It'll emulate the magnetic field created when you physically swipe your card. So, basically it'll work in most places that Google Wallet (or Apple Pay) won't.
Sure, you can just use the Google Wallet card, but if you have it connected to multiple accounts, it's not always easy to remember which one is set as default or to change on the fly the one you want to use. At least with Samsung Pay & the Wallet app, I can choose my card on the fly.
I'm in the beta and raring to go. Sadly my BoA debit card was compromised earlier in the week and so I have to wait for the new one to arrive before I can test.
goobyjr9 said:
I've been accepted into Samsung Pay beta testing and unfortunately since I've tripped knox this is what happens. I have the apk files for both the app and framework.
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Did you try odin back to stock and activating Samsung Pay? If not, can you try it out and let us know the results?
I got into Samsung Pay today but too sick to go try it out somewhere.
RMXO said:
Did you try odin back to stock and activating Samsung Pay? If not, can you try it out and let us know the results?
I got into Samsung Pay today but too sick to go try it out somewhere.
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Any update? Did you ever try it?
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LaRosa217 said:
Yes, Samsung Pay uses MST (magnetic secure transmission), aka the tech they acquired from LoopPay. This allows you to use your phone to pay at terminals, even if they don't have NFC. It'll emulate the magnetic field created when you physically swipe your card. So, basically it'll work in most places that Google Wallet (or Apple Pay) won't.
Sure, you can just use the Google Wallet card, but if you have it connected to multiple accounts, it's not always easy to remember which one is set as default or to change on the fly the one you want to use. At least with Samsung Pay & the Wallet app, I can choose my card on the fly.
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So I too have been accepted to the beta for Samsung pay. The only issue is I don't have any qualifying debit or credit cards to add because they don't have that many the day except at this time which is kind of dumb. But you spoke of LoopPay and I had also read that Samsung had acquired that or something like that so I checked in Google Play and sure enough LoopPay is still there so I thought hey if they have this cool feature where you can just use existing card readers and phone acts as a magnetic strip and seeing how the new Samsung phones have a feature built in and that it's possible that it works if you're rooted or if it doesn't it probably just checks for root and in theory you could just use root cloak to hide your route for the app so I thought why not download LoopPay.
So I downloaded Lupe installed it I'm verified my information but then when I go to add cards it says you currently don't have a connecting device to add a card because with LoopPay it requires you to buy a fob that plugs in to where the 3.5 mm or you can also use a card reader in the 3.5 mm which costs around 40 or 50 bucks. If the LoopPay hardware is built into our devices why does it ask me to have these add ons hooked into the 3.5 mm? Why would they do this? that seems pretty stupid if you ask me.
Maybe they can update LoopPay to not have to have the additional hardware that you need to buy. As far as what I've been saying about the app there's no information in Google Play saying that they are emerging over the Samsung pay for that the apps closing but I could be or they just haven't released anything yet. But it would be kind of a stupid move to murder / to Samsung pay for everyone because not everybody has a Samsung device and won't be able to use samsung pay so maybe that's why is not changing or merging.
travisw0204 said:
I agree 1,000%. Google Wallet is accepted at a lot of places and works well while rooted. If I have to part with Samsung Pay to 1) Turn the camera shutter sound off on my phone via Root Explorer...2) Disable a bunch of Samsung bloat I don't use...3) Have the ability to back up my apps and data as well as restore them...4)Customize my phone using XPosed and Wanam on a deodexed stock rom...etc, then it's not even a close trade off. I'm going with root 3 times out of 4.
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Just wanted to give you a heads up that you can disable the camera shutter sound even if your bone stock or rooted just by going into the camera settings scrolling to the bottom and tapping the disable shutter sound button. Atleast Its def been in my camera app since the day I purchased my phone. Any who just wanted to point that out. Thanks
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Just wanted to give you a heads up that you can disable the camera shutter sound even if your bone stock or rooted just by going into the camera settings scrolling to the bottom and tapping the disable shutter sound button. Atleast Its def been in my camera app since the day I purchased my phone. Any who just wanted to point that out. Thanks
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I definitely don't have it. Its all good though. I have the Sprint variant of the phone.
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I definitely don't have it. Its all good though. I have the Sprint variant of the phone.
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Oh that makes sense, bring your Sprint device into a T-Mobile thread and complain
On a serious note, it seems like Sprint takes out quite a few features, kinda sucks. A simple feature for muting the shutter sound? Why remove?
leo9891 said:
Oh that makes sense, bring your Sprint device into a T-Mobile thread and complain [emoji14]
On a serious note, it seems like Sprint takes out quite a few features, kinda sucks. A simple feature for muting the shutter sound? Why remove?
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Actually I was just speaking in general as far as people justifying why they root. Its pretty universal as far as what you can and can't do. ?
I actually haven't owned a Samsung device where you could turn the shutter sound off for Sprint. The last one I could was the HTC EVO LTE. Its an easy fix once rooted though. My Gear 2 had no shutter sound option either. I had to root it in order to turn it off. Its something about privacy or something like that. I can easily turn the volume on my Ringer to silent and it will remedy that problem.
Curious as to what setting setup people are using to save battery
Package dosabler, this little app has done wonders with my battery life on this phone.
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Package dosabler, this little app has done wonders with my battery life on this phone.
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May I ask what apps you disable to make the battery life better??
Follow this thread, read, it's worth it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3184563
Guide: De-Bloating and De-Touchwizzing the Note 5
You don't even have to do it one by one manually. Just download the .xml file, import it to the app and listo! But read, read read!
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Follow this thread, read, it's worth it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3184563
Guide: De-Bloating and De-Touchwizzing the Note 5
You don't even have to do it one by one manually. Just download the .xml file, import it to the app and listo! But read, read read!
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Thanks
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Facebook/Messenger app are battery huggers for real! I use it through Chrome and added shortcut to home screen and works like a charm.
I'm not really sure what is going on with my battery ; I have been using the debloater script but still have just over 10hrs battery.
So I've never used Package Disabler before so I downloaded it. When it verifies the license, I get a popup about Knox. I am not a noob to rooting, but I've always used TitaniumBackup to do the job for freezing or uninstalling bloat. When the Knox agreement popped up, I did get a little worried cause I don't want to trip Knox or anything just yet. If I decline the agreement, it bring me back to Package Disabler and says I have to accept the agreement.
Is this so??????????
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So I've never used Package Disabler before so I downloaded it. When it verifies the license, I get a popup about Knox. I am not a noob to rooting, but I've always used TitaniumBackup to do the job for freezing or uninstalling bloat. When the Knox agreement popped up, I did get a little worried cause I don't want to trip Knox or anything just yet. If I decline the agreement, it bring me back to Package Disabler and says I have to accept the agreement.
Is this so??????????
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Samsung and the carriers are watching! But yeah you have to agree to that to use the app. It allows the app to be installed as a system app and perform the disabling functions.
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Samsung and the carriers are watching! But yeah you have to agree to that to use the app. It allows the app to be installed as a system app and perform the disabling functions.
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Ok thanks. My last Samsung device was an S4 so yeah.... That didn't have Knox until it was introduced in OTA Updates later on. By then I already rooted and did whatever I wanted cause the phone was free, and I didn't care if I tripped Knox. But I'm paying for this phone so I'm being a little more cautious.
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Ok thanks. My last Samsung device was an S4 so yeah.... That didn't have Knox until it was introduced in OTA Updates later on. By then I already rooted and did whatever I wanted cause the phone was free, and I didn't care if I tripped Knox. But I'm paying for this phone so I'm being a little more cautious.
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I haven't noticed any I'll effects so pretty sure the app isn't tripping knox. Still get ota updates (as long as you enable all and reboot) and still can use Samsung pay.
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Here's my tricks for today's performance as seen in screenshots below... my device is rooted, but you can do all these things without root...
1) Use powersaving mode, you don't really notice much performance hit for the things I do on my phone
2) Use Disable Application app from play store to disable well over 100 background apps ( use package disabler pro if not rooted, it's a better interface)
3) Use Smart Manager app to manage ram and limit background apps running
4) Greenify all apps other than launcher and my music apps that I'm streaming music with
5) Manage screen brightness and not keep it overly bright when not needed
As you can see, I managed to get over 7 hours of Screen On Time, 3 hours of streaming music... i also did plenty of emails, web surfing, xda forums, texting, phone calls... it's not like the phone barely got used... I used it a ton!
I just got a note 5 on sprint and I love it, but I'm really not sure if I want to root. Every device since I got my Samsung moment has been rooted (htc evo 4g lte, s3,s5 for the day I had it, and then the g3). Anyways, my question is losing Samsung pay worth rooting? I mean I love all the things I can do with root, I just wanna know what everyone's opinion is, so I can weigh pros and cons of rooting.
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***get any available promotions before you root. I only got the free charger promo back in September***
-Root is useful all day everyday
-Samsung Pay is slightly useful at most a few times a day if ever
954wrecker said:
***get any available promotions before you root***
-Root is useful all day everyday
-Samsung Pay is slightly useful at most a few times a day if ever
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On that note, I can't get the $200 promotion to work... But what other promotions are there?
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Nevermind, turns out it was my Internet not uploading my receipt... So i did it on lte, and it was fine
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What's the $200 promo can someone share?
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What's the $200 promo can someone share?
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https://samsungpromotions.com/celebratefootball/Mobile
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I'm waiting on my promotions to go through, once they do, this thing is getting root treatment
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how to root
does anyone know how to root the sprint note 5. looking for a way thats the easiest and wont brick my phone. thanks
Antrock23 said:
does anyone know how to root the sprint note 5. looking for a way thats the easiest and wont brick my phone. thanks
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There is a thread on it here over in the general forum.
You need to use ODIN to flash TWRP and then flash a custom kernel, or just flash TWRP with ODIN and then flash a custom ROM. They are already rooted.
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***get any available promotions before you root. I only got the free charger promo back in September***
-Root is useful all day everyday
-Samsung Pay is slightly useful at most a few times a day if ever
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Why do you say Samsung Pay is only slightly worth it?
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Why do you say Samsung Pay is only slightly worth it?
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How often does anyone go out without your keys and wallet and drivers license. I mean really, I used it a bunch when I went jogging, but it's not 100%. The first time it didn't work I luckily had my wallet and my regular card swiped just fine. I rooted my phone the second I got home that day.
It's totally up to the user to root if need be. I, however, chose not to root this phone only because everything I needed root for I can accomplish without it whilst keeping Samsung Pay and Android Pay intact. I use the latter more than the previous so root is a no go for me based on that. However, I've tried Samsung Pay a few times and it worked with no issues. You just have to ask yourself what exactly do I need root for? These were my needs for root and the fixes I found to accomplish what I needed without rooting:
Camera Shutter Sound fix( Enforced Stream Silencer app)
Hotspot Mod( APN Settings mod. Need MSL # for this which can be gotten through Sprint Chat)
Ad Remover( AdGuard Premium App)
APK Backups/Restore( App Backup and Restore app)
System UI Backup( Smart Switch on PC)
Bloatware Removal/System App Disabler( Package Disabler Pro)
Add any app to MW( MW- Pen App Enabler Pro)
Themes( Samsung Theme Store)
These can all be achieved without root. More importantly, everything works as it should and when you need it to work without getting the dreaded FC and doing trial and error to fix it. If the Pros outweigh the Cons then do it. If not, don't root.
I honestly don't miss it. I have more time to spend with my family and not trying to find what a developer took out to make a feature of the phone work. I get updates on time without waiting for a rooted rom to be posted. I'm not trolling XDA or any other blog seeing when the next update is to whatever rom I'm using to see if hopefully the issues I had with the rom were addressed with the new build. Do I miss root? Sometimes. But ultimately I'm glad I didn't root. This was my choice. As I said, everyone is different. You have to do what works for you. I love that I have full functionality of my phone and confidence knowing if I try a feature it will work as advertised.
I stayed stock for exactly 4 weeks and used samsung pay a few times a day with 5 different credit cards. I've been rooted for the past 3 months and i do NOT miss samsung pay at all. I reap the benefits of root all day everyday because of the amazing ROM dev @tdunham and the amazing KERNEL dev @UpInTheAir.
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It's totally up to the user to root if need be. I, however, chose not to root this phone only because everything I needed root for I can accomplish without it whilst keeping Samsung Pay and Android Pay intact. I use the latter more than the previous so root is a no go for me based on that. However, I've tried Samsung Pay a few times and it worked with no issues. You just have to ask yourself what exactly do I need root for? These were my needs for root and the fixes I found to accomplish what I needed without rooting:
Camera Shutter Sound fix( Enforced Stream Silencer app)
Hotspot Mod( APN Settings mod. Need MSL # for this which can be gotten through Sprint Chat)
Ad Remover( AdGuard Premium App)
APK Backups/Restore( App Backup and Restore app)
System UI Backup( Smart Switch on PC)
Bloatware Removal/System App Disabler( Package Disabler Pro)
Add any app to MW( MW- Pen App Enabler Pro)
Themes( Samsung Theme Store)
These can all be achieved without root. More importantly, everything works as it should and when you need it to work without getting the dreaded FC and doing trial and error to fix it. If the Pros outweigh the Cons then do it. If not, don't root.
I honestly don't miss it. I have more time to spend with my family and not trying to find what a developer took out to make a feature of the phone work. I get updates on time without waiting for a rooted rom to be posted. I'm not trolling XDA or any other blog seeing when the next update is to whatever rom I'm using to see if hopefully the issues I had with the rom were addressed with the new build. Do I miss root? Sometimes. But ultimately I'm glad I didn't root. This was my choice. As I said, everyone is different. You have to do what works for you. I love that I have full functionality of my phone and confidence knowing if I try a feature it will work as advertised.
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Thanks for your insight, is there a bloatware List that you referenced?
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Thanks for your insight, is there a bloatware List that you referenced?
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No. I usually just remove the stuff I know about like Nascar, Ebay, etc. The system apps I disable are usually like the Calculator, Picasa maybe and a couple other things.
still waiting for my promos to go through, once they do, im gonna root it
does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
Yeah I also want to root it. Plz anyone tell the method.
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Won't be a method until it's released, then I'm certain the devs here will start cracking on it. Give time, the guys here are pretty good at what they do but there's still no guarantee root will be achieved (US models that is).
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does any know if s8 or s8+ can be rooted?
are there plans to do this or does samsung now block this?
some tools titanium backup et.al. need root access
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Root will happen
(If not I'll be suprised)
Look at s7 edge (exynos) if you want to have the approximate method.
Once twrp is released, I bet around the beginning of Mai, you will be able to install it using Odin (breaks knox, s pay, etc)
From there you'll be able to flash whatever you want (magisk, SuperSU, etc)
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Although I just stumbled over this:
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Finally, the Exynos 8895 also includes what Samsung is calling an “enhanced security sub-system with a separate security processing unit” for use with user authentication, mobile payments, and the like. Based on Samsung’s description this sounds a heck of a lot like Apple’s Secure Enclave, which would be a very welcome development, as in Apple’s case it has made their phones a lot harder to break into.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/...-8895-soc-10nm
yeah, saw on their website that encryption layers are going to be a lot stronger. I still think it'll be cracked. It's a large enough phone. just might take longer than normal.
Even root on Verizon's locked bootloader?
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Yea root not enough for me, also need unlocked bootloader
geez the phones not even out yet. Gotta give the devs time to get there hands on the phone, then time to actually find a way to root it.
Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
I bought this phone knowing it's going to be at least a year before at minimum root being achieved
if at all ,so I'm not getting my hopes up at all
This phone might be the straw the breaks the developers backs
I only needed a rooted phone for ARU unchained anyway ,but since the area51 got it to work unrooted
I can afford to wait
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Would it be wise to right off the bat unenable automatic downloads of "Security Update: Improves Performance and Battery" in case someone finds a way to Root and they slip in an irreversible Firmware Update?
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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i mean yea, kinda, but your not gonna get updates. Personally I am just gonna update my phone, and hopefully they find a way to root. My biggest concern is using samsung pay with my Gear S3, while having my phone rooted. idk if that will be possible so until then im just gonna wait.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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What do you mean? Even my Note 4 after ages waiting for the newest Android (Lollipop and Marshmallow) and nothing else for some suspicious reason recently they have been pushing updates pretty regular with the exact same description I posted, "improves performance and enhances battery life" or some $h!t which from experience these updates definitely do NOT do anything of the sort so it makes you wonder…
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I hear you, preference I guess, I just like being up to date. I find that sometimes you are unable to use certain features without the updates.
I have the note 4 myself, and the only update that was a problem with that phone was MM, you could not downgrade from it. I have the AT&T variant so, no root access, and the current temp root that they have listed on the forums is not viable because your only temp rooted on experimental testing firmware.
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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Thanks! Now I know.
Zeal415 said:
The main feature you'll be missing out on is Bixby most likely, idk how good it will be or how bad, but you'll be behind that, apparently Bixby is not finished yet, and will not be shipped with the phone, at least not the complete version.
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Haha, Buzby (as I call it) is the one INTRUSION I do NOT want!! Never asked for it, just forced upon us. This would be great, but I suspect the Phone already has Bixby embedded into it, what with all the hype (publicity for it) about it not functioning at launch I believe is a marketing ploy to bring attention to it. The part that is not being made available at launch is their end, nothing to do with needing an update for it to work (for those who blindly want it).
See, you watch, they will make such a big deal, like a major announcement when it is made to function and they "switch on their Bixby servers" it'll be posted all over the web like when the Note 7 fiasco (supposedly) happened.
Stop for second. And think. THINK. For yourself. That right there is invaluable advice. Bixby is not your friend.
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I use Samsung pay with my gear S3 and it's linked to my rooted 6p.
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I use it also from my S7 Edge. Works just fine. I have the BT version of the Gear S3 tho. Pay dont work with international(the one on amazon) version of the S3.
i don't think i'm going to root my phone this time it has all the future and it freaking fast and blotware less , gonna give samsung apps a chance and use then for good . if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
i got myphone yesterday.
I will be rooting so I can use Viper4Android, AdAway and Titanium Backup
saifullah90 said:
if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
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IMHO, the main purpose for rooting is to boost the device security and privacy: to stop google, facebook et al. from spying on you.
I will root mine too, so i can use AFWall+, ADBlock, Tasker and Titanium Backup
saifullah90 said:
i don't think i'm going to root my phone this time it has all the future and it freaking fast and blotware less , gonna give samsung apps a chance and use then for good . if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
i got myphone yesterday.
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I've found that the best way to satisfy my rooting urges these days is to keep a stock Pixel handy and a Nexus 5x for rooting goodness. These other phones (be it Samsung, LG, HTC) I am now leaving completely stock and will enjoy them for what they are. Other than light debloating and an occasional launcher change, there just isn't the desire anymore to root these and ROM them up.
I'm on the T-Mobile JOD plan, and for those of you that also happen to be...it has come to light that T-Mobile doesn't have a way of tracking whether or not customers are using only 3 JOD's a year in their database. MEANING, you can theoretically jump into a new (or the same phone if you have issues w/ your current JOD phone) every 30 days if your heart desires. I jumped from the LG v20 to the dreaded iPhone 7plus within a 45 day timeframe while waiting on the s8+ release. I plan to hold onto it until the upcoming Note release, buttttttttt I guess it depends what else is released in the interim!
To think that you can stop Google or Facebook from spying on you with root is humorous, they don't care about you, unless you're in some terrorist group or something... There's a no-root adblocker for Samsung called Adhell, it works through modifying Knox, no VPNs, and works as well as any root adblocker. The S8 also has a built-in DAC that lets you modify sound settings like Viper
Annie the Eagle said:
I will be rooting so I can use Viper4Android, AdAway and Titanium Backup
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All I need is viper4android but I'm on tmobile and when I rooted my s7e it was never the same so with that being said my note 4 is rooted with all that I need for listening to loud tunes or podcasts for work... and I'll be keeping my s8+ unrooted because it's just too smooth and lag free for me at the moment hoping it doesn't crap out in a couple months....
The reason I was going to root was so I could force the phone into LTE only mode, but the 4G switcher app works and does that so now I don't really have a need for root!
Rooting mainly for full automation through tasker. Shell commands, GPS, etc needs root. Being able to do per apps settings for full screen, battery/performance, timeout and hw buttons.
I guess bixby button remapping would be another reason for root.
Except for this it looks like there's not that many more reasons to root anymore..:
Adhell and Adblock plugin for Sammy browser should take care of advertisemens and as sound settings and other functions in the ROM seems very good this year, so I'm not too bummed out if root doesn't happen.
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Always prefer XDA and Root ftw!
I pretty much stopped flashing different roms when I got my note 4, not that I had a huge choice since root came late. But when I did flash a ton, it was just a stock debloated and tweaked one.
But my number one reason for root is ad blocking. I absolutely hate ads. So I really only want to root my new s8+ so I can run ad block and install xposed to get the YouTube adblocker.
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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Perhaps they dont have snapdragons....
vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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An exploit has to be found. One can have root with a locked bootloader obviously.
Of course an unlocked bootloader allows us to flash recoveries, custom roms and other goodies.
I do miss Titanium.
And centered clock and custom icons.
Package disabler pro helps a lot.
I had to kill bixby. Hitting that button when trying to turn down the volume and having that interrupt me was really annoying.
I'd like to have that button dedicated to something.
But for now, it's a dummy.
cpufrost said:
An exploit has to be found. One can have root with a locked bootloader obviously.
Of course an unlocked bootloader allows us to flash recoveries, custom roms and other goodies.
I do miss Titanium.
And centered clock and custom icons.
Package disabler pro helps a lot.
I had to kill bixby. Hitting that button when trying to turn down the volume and having that interrupt me was really annoying.
I'd like to have that button dedicated to something.
But for now, it's a dummy.
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try bixremap it launches bixby then a mili sec later opens google now , you just need to undisable bixby from package disabler first
vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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well once we got the chance i guess, but im skipping the root on s8 not necessary
saifullah90 said:
well once we got the chance i guess, but im skipping the root on s8 not necessary
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I HAVE to have Viper. Android should buy V4a and have it as a stock feature on all their phones.
Eddiemc said:
...for full automation through tasker. Shell commands, GPS, etc needs root....
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+1000
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I wont be rooting because Verizon. that's why
vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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S7e boot was locked but we all rooted anyway different root from the norm tho....