Has anyone figured out or come across a method of disabling the attached app? ADB method is futile
com.tmobile.echolocate
Only alternative that comes to mind is flashing the U1 firmware.
Same here on both the Note20 & Ultra versions.
I even tried to uninstall via ADB to no avail.
Seriously considering installing the US unlocked firmware.
using Insular app maybe
Freeze using SD Maid or Titanium?
@raul6
Not quite getting how Insular would help.
Sounds like a copy of the app is sandboxed, but, the other copy is still active.
If I'm missing something, please elaborate.
@elmor0
Not rooted, SD Maid/Titanium are of no help in this situation.
Most any other bloatware is able to be frozen/disabled via ADB, but,this one isn't, on an unrooted device.
KOLIOSIS said:
Same here on both the Note20 & Ultra versions.
I even tried to uninstall via ADB to no avail.
Seriously considering installing the US unlocked firmware.
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Hello how are you? Long time no see, good seeing you on here.
Right back at ya.
Yeah,it's been a while,not on as much as w/previous phones (equally because the site changes a while back were buggy,better now,but,still getting used to the new look & feel).
New to the Note 20 Ultra,I probably wouldn't have gotten it if not for a generous Mother's Day trade-in value on the LG Wing ($800).
I've had the regular Note 20 for quite a while now. Too bad the RAM & Storage take a hit vs the Ultra,otherwise it's a solid phone.
From what I gather,there'll be a trade-off if flashing from T-Mo to US Unlocked firmware,in that eSIM is MIA on the latter.
I think I'm going to go ahead & do it anyway,eSIM isn't a must-have,but,it does suck that one has to choose & make a compromise.
I saw that you came from the S21 Ultra........ I probably would have got that,but,the bulk of a case that can hold an S-Pen was a deal breaker. Otherwise,I'm guessing the overall performance is noticeably better than the Note 20 Ultra.
Package Disabler... it gets the AT&T update parasite.
@blackhawk
Which one are you using?
If from the Google Play Store, can you post the link?
I'm currently using the PC tool ADB App Control. It's an awesome tool, but, neither it nor regular ADB commands are working in removing the T-Mobile Diagnostic Tool app.
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@blackhawk
Which one are you using?
If from the Google Play Store, can you post the link?
I'm currently using the PC tool ADB App Control. It's an awesome tool, but, neither it nor regular ADB commands are working in removing the T-Mobile Diagnostic Tool app.
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This is the only one that consistently works year after year.
This recent version doesn't list Google play Services so I have to manually disable it in apps, WTF? It still lists and blocks AT&T updates from running though. It's a yearly subscription now and cloud based however once it's installed you can firewall block it (which I do) with no harm.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
You can also call the carrier and have (demand) them to disable it on their end. Did that with AT&T but if you get another device you'll need to do it again. It took some head banging to find an advance tech there to do it.
KOLIOSIS said:
Right back at ya.
Yeah,it's been a while,not on as much as w/previous phones (equally because the site changes a while back were buggy,better now,but,still getting used to the new look & feel).
New to the Note 20 Ultra,I probably wouldn't have gotten it if not for a generous Mother's Day trade-in value on the LG Wing ($800).
I've had the regular Note 20 for quite a while now. Too bad the RAM & Storage take a hit vs the Ultra,otherwise it's a solid phone.
From what I gather,there'll be a trade-off if flashing from T-Mo to US Unlocked firmware,in that eSIM is MIA on the latter.
I think I'm going to go ahead & do it anyway,eSIM isn't a must-have,but,it does suck that one has to choose & make a compromise.
I saw that you came from the S21 Ultra........ I probably would have got that,but,the bulk of a case that can hold an S-Pen was a deal breaker. Otherwise,I'm guessing the overall performance is noticeably better than the Note 20 Ultra.
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Good seeing you back. In regards to the S21U, I ordered one in 256GB from Samsung direct, had an issue and sent it back the next day, the screen on the particular one I had, had severe color shift even at a slightest angle. I just couldn't live with that. So now I'm back again in the Note 20U again, this time a mystic black TMO model. Previous was bronze and before that it was a white dual sim south American model and a few other devices in between.
I think I'm going to the same, and flash U1. There was also a lot of Sprint apps on it also.
@Limeybastard
How ya liking the Sprint-TMo merger so far?
My phone hopping has slowed down somewhat, phones are getting too pricey & the pace of innovation has slowed a bit vs 2-3 yrs ago. 5G compatibility w/the imports is my biggest deterrent ,too bad,lot of cool devices from Xiaomi/Vivo/OPPO,etc.......
Definitely interested in going to US unlocked firmware,but,I came across a how-to thread here that seems to indicate swapping from U1 to carrier & vice-versa on BL2 is broke.
[Guide] - eSim Firmware Flash/ Odin Upgrade/ Flashing and N986U to N986U1 & Vice Versa
Instructions are updated to get eSIM INTRODUCTION - Firstly sorry for posting this as this is common knowledge for many. I still see so many people asking the same questions again and again and i do want to help so decided to write a guide. If...
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Sounds like this applies to our phones.......or,am I missing something here
blackhawk said:
This is the only one that consistently works year after year.
This recent version doesn't list Google play Services so I have to manually disable it in apps, WTF? It still lists and blocks AT&T updates from running though. It's a yearly subscription now and cloud based however once it's installed you can firewall block it (which I do) with no harm.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
You can also call the carrier and have (demand) them to disable it on their end. Did that with AT&T but if you get another device you'll need to do it again. It took some head banging to find an advance tech there to do it.
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Reference firewall, I tried using Karma firewall , but it creates a constant VPN connection.
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@Limeybastard
How ya liking the Sprint-TMo merger so far?
My phone hopping has slowed down somewhat, phones are getting too pricey & the pace of innovation has slowed a bit vs 2-3 yrs ago. 5G compatibility w/the imports is my biggest deterrent ,too bad,lot of cool devices from Xiaomi/Vivo/OPPO,etc.......
Definitely interested in going to US unlocked firmware,but,I came across a how-to thread here that seems to indicate swapping from U1 to carrier & vice-versa on BL2 is broke.
[Guide] - eSim Firmware Flash/ Odin Upgrade/ Flashing and N986U to N986U1 & Vice Versa
Instructions are updated to get eSIM INTRODUCTION - Firstly sorry for posting this as this is common knowledge for many. I still see so many people asking the same questions again and again and i do want to help so decided to write a guide. If...
forum.xda-developers.com
Sounds like this applies to our phones.......or,am I missing something here
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In my neck of the woods I have seen some slight improvement in 4G LTE speeds, I can also get a 5G signal which is unfortunately slower than LTE for me, so I just keep mine set to LTE 3g 2g etc mode.
The lack of carrier aggregation was my biggest turn off in regards to non USA devices. Lack of 5G not so much of a concern.
Unfortunately I updated mine to BL2 so if that's the case then we'll have to wait until U1 is available to us. Oh well. ..
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Reference firewall, I tried using Karma firewall , but it creates a constant VPN connection.
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It's a VPN based firewall.
It uses almost no battery... is there something I missed?
Limeybastard said:
In my neck of the woods I have seen some slight improvement in 4G LTE speeds, I can also get a 5G signal which is unfortunately slower than LTE for me, so I just keep mine set to LTE 3g 2g etc mode.
The lack of carrier aggregation was my biggest turn off in regards to non USA devices. Lack of 5G not so much of a concern.
Unfortunately I updated mine to BL2 so if that's the case then we'll have to wait until U1 is available to us. Oh well. ..
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Hang on a minute as my memory is getting awful with age, we're on bootloader 2 correct ? If memory serves me correctly we can't flash to U1 firmware bootloader version 1? But I think there is U1 firmware on bootloader version 2 available now.
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It's a VPN based firewall.
It uses almost no battery... is there something I missed?
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No, thanks for the clarification. I tried it but panicked and uninstalled it
KOLIOSIS said:
@Limeybastard
How ya liking the Sprint-TMo merger so far?
My phone hopping has slowed down somewhat, phones are getting too pricey & the pace of innovation has slowed a bit vs 2-3 yrs ago. 5G compatibility w/the imports is my biggest deterrent ,too bad,lot of cool devices from Xiaomi/Vivo/OPPO,etc.......
Definitely interested in going to US unlocked firmware,but,I came across a how-to thread here that seems to indicate swapping from U1 to carrier & vice-versa on BL2 is broke.
[Guide] - eSim Firmware Flash/ Odin Upgrade/ Flashing and N986U to N986U1 & Vice Versa
Instructions are updated to get eSIM INTRODUCTION - Firstly sorry for posting this as this is common knowledge for many. I still see so many people asking the same questions again and again and i do want to help so decided to write a guide. If...
forum.xda-developers.com
Sounds like this applies to our phones.......or,am I missing something here
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I'm afraid you're correct. They want to lock you in to Android's flat spin to hell.
The AT&T 4G stock Note 10+/Pie performs well after some... adjustments
That and maybe the Note 20U are the only Samsung's I would consider as Samsung's latter offerings are weak. Android 11 is a disaster and 10 is probably a downgrade from Pie.
Android is on track to be a flaming wreck if Gookill can't pull out of the flat spin it put its self in.
All in all I'm considering buying another Note 10+ 512gb 4G mostly for the extra ram. The 20U has faster memory/cpu but is handicapped by Q.
Slim pickens in my opinion... the N10+ is fast with a gorgeous display. It lacks the rounded corners displays which I loathe, being a CRT raised child The only downside to the perfectly square corners is the need for a good case. These corner hitting Notes will get destroyed without one.
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No, thanks for the clarification. I tried it but panicked and uninstalled it
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I've been running it for about 6 months. It's always on as it cuts my battery usage by blocking apps like Android Services from constantly polling the internet. Accubattery is also a habitual offender.
It's been a valuable tool in tracking down battery hogs and data mining apps. I have yet to see any misbehavior from it. A near perfect app.
It's valuble logging feature doesn't work on Q and and above I been told. Thanks Gookill...
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I'm afraid you're correct. They want to lock you in to Android's flat spin to hell.
The AT&T 4G stock Note 10+/Pie performs well after some... adjustments
That and maybe the Note 20U are the only Samsung's I would consider as Samsung's latter offerings are weak. Android 11 is a disaster and 10 is probably a downgrade from Pie.
Android is on track to be a flaming wreck if Gookill can't pull out of the flat spin it put its self in.
All in all I'm considering buying another Note 10+ 512gb 4G mostly for the extra ram. The 20U has faster memory/cpu but is handicapped by Q.
Slim pickens in my opinion... the N10+ is fast with a gorgeous display. It lacks the rounded corners displays which I loathe, being a CRT raised child The only downside to the perfectly square corners is the need for a good case. These corner hitting Notes will get destroyed without one.
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You need to get a N20U, it'll all be good after a few tweaks. Try it , you'll thank me later.
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Question. What's Honors stance on adding Wifi calling to future OTAs? It looks like they've received a bit of demand but I haven't heard anything specifically on this since the AMA.
https://m.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/50ivz4/comment/d74ii4p
Ascertion said:
Question. What's Honors stance on adding Wifi calling to future OTAs? It looks like they've received a bit of demand but I haven't heard anything specifically on this since the AMA.
https://m.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/50ivz4/comment/d74ii4p
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since most users have requested for it,they would consider in the future update
Ascertion said:
Question. What's Honors stance on adding Wifi calling to future OTAs? It looks like they've received a bit of demand but I haven't heard anything specifically on this since the AMA.
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See attached screenshot from Amazon Q&A about the Honor 8 found here:
https://www.amazon.com/Honor-Unlocked-Midnight-Black-Warranty/dp/B01IVV7W6O/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1480128845&sr=1-2&keywords=Honor+8
kravmama1 said:
See attached screenshot from Amazon Q&A about the Honor 8 found here:
https://www.amazon.com/Honor-Unlock...e=UTF8&qid=1480128845&sr=1-2&keywords=Honor+8
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Wow! I hope this actually happens.
Wondering if the honor 8 can use WiFi calling / texting on AT&T (fairly new option)
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using XDA Free mobile app
mis3 said:
Wondering if the honor 8 can use WiFi calling / texting on AT&T (fairly new option)
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using XDA Free mobile app
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No.
kravmama1 said:
See attached screenshot from Amazon Q&A about the Honor 8 found here:
https://www.amazon.com/Honor-Unlock...e=UTF8&qid=1480128845&sr=1-2&keywords=Honor+8
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so eventually we can expect it to work???
venom007 said:
so eventually we can expect it to work???
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The way I understand it, Huawei is working with T-mobile to get Wifi calling working on the Honor 8 (US version) with a future software update. Whether this actually happens remains to be seen. (I believe that ZTE is still trying to get it to work for their Axon 7.)
I wish I would have known this BEFORE I bought the phone. Specs are great otherwise, but no WiFi calling support on a 'flagship' level device such as this is a deal breaker when you have very little carrier signal (any carrier) in your home. Returning and spending the money on a device with support for what has become a basic functionality on any smart phone.
DaUnderSheriff said:
I wish I would have known this BEFORE I bought the phone. Specs are great otherwise, but no WiFi calling support on a 'flagship' level device such as this is a deal breaker when you have very little carrier signal (any carrier) in your home. Returning and spending the money on a device with support for what has become a basic functionality on any smart phone.
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This is controlled my the carriers, not the phone manufacturers.
pieman13 said:
This is controlled my the carriers, not the phone manufacturers.
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No, it isn't. This misinformed nonsense also needs to stop being repeated and propagated as fact.
The support is either built into the phone software or not. If the carrier supports it then it works. If the carrier does not, then the option does nothing. The feature itself, however, has to be built into the phone's software. My unlocked HTC 10 supports it as do the Nexus phones, both of which are two examples of non-carrier branded phones.
bigfatsweatypig said:
No, it isn't. This misinformed nonsense also needs to stop being repeated and propagated as fact.
The support is either built into the phone software or not. If the carrier supports it then it works. If the carrier does not, then the option does nothing. The feature itself, however, has to be built into the phone's software. My unlocked HTC 10 supports it as do the Nexus phones, both of which are two examples of non-carrier branded phones.
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True. Even if the update provides the device that it will only work if the carrier supports it.
Bullocks
pieman13 said:
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This is the same thing Huawei keeps saying as well, but if the software isn't configured to support it (because the carrier certainly does - On my GS6 with Android 6.0.1 it works just fine - everywhere I have WiFi) it won't work. There's no option in the WiFi menu for WiFi calling, and it's been pretty well documented that they intend to bake this in to the next EMUI update with Nougat. In the mean time, you either deal with the constant ummounting of the SD card and lack of WiFi calling, or take it back for a phone that isn't quite so underwhelming and buggy.
pieman13 said:
This is controlled my the carriers, not the phone manufacturers.
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Yeah, this feature is controlled by Cell Carriers not by device manufacturers.
Why is this so difficult to understand?
DarkGuyver said:
Yeah, this feature is controlled by Cell Carriers not by device manufacturers.
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Yes, the availability of the feature set is controlled by the carrier - but if the carrier supports WiFi calling - as T-Mobile / MetroPCS does - it's whether the device hardware and/or software supports the feature that dictates usability. The Honor 8 does NOT support WiFi calling, because EMUI doesn't have the feature enabled. Period. Huawei has said as much.
Look, If Google trusts Huawei to make the Pixel for them (there are a lot of great similarities here), they've got a good thing going. But this is basic device functionality stuff. Are they worried that Pixel sales will be hurt by people buying the Honor 8 if it's fully featured? Hmmm. Wish I'd thought of that. Oh wait. I did.
DaUnderSheriff said:
Yes, the availability of the feature set is controlled by the carrier - but if the carrier supports WiFi calling - as T-Mobile / MetroPCS does - it's whether the device hardware and/or software supports the feature that dictates usability. The Honor 8 does NOT support WiFi calling, because EMUI doesn't have the feature enabled. Period. Huawei has said as much.
Look, If Google trusts Huawei to make the Pixel for them (there are a lot of great similarities here), they've got a good thing going. But this is basic device functionality stuff. Are they worried that Pixel sales will be hurt by people buying the Honor 8 if it's fully featured? Hmmm. Wish I'd thought of that. Oh wait. I did.
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The biggest issue is getting certified to use WiFi calling which is very hard for China based companies. Not impossible but to be honest I have not seen a single one get certified in the states yet.
zelendel said:
The biggest issue is getting certified to use WiFi calling which is very hard for China based companies. Not impossible but to be honest I have not seen a single one get certified in the states yet.
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My Le Pro3 from Le Eco has Wifi calling. It works better on this than it did the Nexus 5X.
Edit: You're right though. It costs companies time and money to implement it although I wish Huawei was more vocal on this. Their XDA partnership hasn't really impressed me yet.
Ascertion said:
My Le Pro3 from Le Eco has Wifi calling. It works better on this than it did the Nexus 5X.
Edit: You're right though. It costs companies time and money to implement it although I wish Huawei was more vocal on this. Their XDA partnership hasn't really impressed me yet.
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There is alot of history there with this OEM. They for many years were banned in the US due to security issues and even to this day their devices are not allowed on some military bases. I thought about getting an honor 8 but will have to fill out tons of paperwork to see if I can get it approved due to some places I work.
Done
I just decided it was time to be done and returned the phone. Back to my GS6 after cooking the daylights out of it to remove any condensation from my little one dumping it in the dog drink. Oddly, I had a lot of strange crashes, and exorbitant date usage & GPS locks by Huawei specific apps. Might be on to something there.
zelendel said:
There is alot of history there with this OEM. They for many years were banned in the US due to security issues and even to this day their devices are not allowed on some military bases. I thought about getting an honor 8 but will have to fill out tons of paperwork to see if I can get it approved due to some places I work.
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No WiFi calling support on Honor 8
Hi Guys, I am T-mobile user and switch to Honor 8 from Motorola Nexus 6 about three months back and after use around week felt that this is the best Phone ever better than iPhone 6S. After few days used this phone found that it's doesn't have WiFi calling feature which does have on Nexus 6 because at my work place very barely T-mobile signals reach. Try to find some blogs and got that will get this feature in next update vEMUI 5.0 with Android 7.0 which i got recently few days back. but still this feature doesn't show up or working at all. now I am feeling like this is the wrong choise coz it not supporting WiFi calling which normally most smartphones does support.
Huwai Team please address this and let us know if any fix is available to overcome this.
Hey everyone
I just heard about Huawei been a bit more relaxed about rooting their Mate 30 Pro.
At First I was like that is AWESOME, the idea of been able to use the Mate 30 Pro with pixel experience (my favourite custom Rom) sounds amazing.... best Pixel stock experience on a beast like Mate 30 would be epic.
Then I found a strange taste in my mouth. There would still be some draw backs. Thought I would list some concerns and people could answer some of those concerns.
(Note....each concern/question has a solution or comment I think about the issue.....this is just my view and not to be taken as the only view)
1. Lack of full potential from cameras on the back?
I know some custom ROM camera apps are pretty good l, but to really experience the best from the camera's you would have to have some access to l the Mate 30 Pro stock camera app package to allow.
A thought I had is that Huawei could make a APK that's a bit like Goodlock and this app would allow you to download the stock camera app and other stock apps that people may use on their Huawei devices.
2. LTE and 5G??
I can remember using my Samsung S7E with Pixel Experience but one of the draw backs was that I could get 4G but I didn't get the extra features like LTE, wifi calling, HD call quality ect. If this remained the case then this would be a major draw back to a 2019 flagship device.
Maybe Huawei could needed coding and solutions directly to custom Rom developers....or allow then to be a open source so every ROM devloper had access these features.
3. General Custom ROM glitches and bugs
We are all used to our ROMs having strange behaviours every now and ad gain but do we want these bugs on our £800+ smartphone that we use eveqersryday.
This solution seems obvious Huawei need to work closely with custom Rom developers and helping them Iron these issues out.
4. Some apps dont work on custom Roms no matter what.
Back to my S7e I was able to almost all of the apps on my phone thanks to magisk manager but some apps still had issues. My samsung gear app would pair with my gearfit 2 no matter what. It downloaded but it would not find any devices. I found a fix but that caused my Google to stop working, so had to put it back. This happened with other apps as well.
The only solution I can think of is app developers would have to made aware that mate 30 users could be using rooted devices with Huawei's blessing and ensure there apps work on rooted versions of the phone.
5. Is Warranty still safe.
If Huawei are actually cool with us rooting our P30 Pro then they need to put their money where their mouth is and allow this activity with their manufactures warranty, private insurance companies need to follow suit as well.
Huawei could give us manufactures warranty but with the condition that if possible we have to flash the stock firmware of the device before sending it out.
That's it....that's just s few of my thoughts and possible solutions and would love to hear what you guys think and if you have any worries or questions of your own? Maybe if we make enough noise Huawei will notice us and take our ideas and answer our questions themselves.
(Make it easier....put which number comment your answering to so we all have a better idea what's going on)
Keep it friendly guys remember these are mine and others thoughts.... none of us are implying that these thoughts are right.
By the way... I am a Note 9 user but I am really excited of the potential of Huawei been the ultimate custom ROM brand.
Official Pixel Experience is pretty much nill on Huawei Devices. I see the Honor 10 has
again been dropped.
When the Ban is lifted Huawei will lock the bootloader again no doubt.
they have changed their mind, they will not unlock the BL for the Mate 30.
the only place this device will sell well is China, they are screwed pretty much everywhere else.
I just bought one in shanghai yesterday. Its a very neat and fast phone. especially the 40w charging is cool. you can watch percentages go up...
I asked for the 5G version but i was told its not availbale and should come November. I was wondering though if its already built in and just needs a software patch... like back then when Nvidia was reducing performace on Graphic cards by disabling shaders by firmware...
Surrido said:
I just bought one in shanghai yesterday. Its a very neat and fast phone. especially the 40w charging is cool. you can watch percentages go up...
I asked for the 5G version but i was told its not availbale and should come November. I was wondering though if its already built in and just needs a software patch... like back then when Nvidia was reducing performace on Graphic cards by disabling shaders by firmware...
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Where you live? I just thinking to get one too but not sure china version it support USA TMobile LTE Network or not
paullu said:
Where you live? I just thinking to get one too but not sure china version it support USA TMobile LTE Network or not
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I live in Germany. Cant test US Networks until January, so someone else needs to do that
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Where you live? I just thinking to get one too but not sure china version it support USA TMobile LTE Network or not
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I would say most likely it works, as the China version covers pretty much all the network.
You could find out the specs from their website and check if the LTE bands covers T-Mobiles. It works on Bell's network though.
paullu said:
Where you live? I just thinking to get one too but not sure china version it support USA TMobile LTE Network or not
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I am in TX, I got Mate 30 Pro from China, and it works with T-mobile showing "4G" icon. The speed test result is like to my old iPhone 6.
By the way, I have 2 sim card, one is China Union (works on AT&T's network) which support VoLTE, the other is T-Mobile which does not.
chenydx said:
I am in TX, I got Mate 30 Pro from China, and it works with T-mobile showing "4G" icon. The speed test result is like to my old iPhone 6.
By the way, I have 2 sim card, one is China Union (works on AT&T's network) which support VoLTE, the other is T-Mobile which does not.
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Thanks for the reply. Also dou you install Google apps? If so can you confirm Google pay , YouTube ,Goole map are working?
paullu said:
Thanks for the reply. Also dou you install Google apps? If so can you confirm Google pay , YouTube ,Goole map are working?
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Play store, Google pay, gmail, map, YouTube, chrome, Android Auto can be installed and have no problem to log in to use. i have been play with my phone for a week, so far the noticable issues are Google pay that does not allow me to pay, and some of app like netflix, United airline, gasbuddy cannot install..
Does Google photos back up and work as normal?
jbreaz said:
Does Google photos back up and work as normal?
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Google photos Works fine for me (backup sync and share)
o012 said:
Google photos Works fine for me (backup sync and share)
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Thank you I think I'm convinced
I was trying to find a thread about the bootloader being unlocked on this phone and couldn't find one. I came across this video on YouTube where this guy turns on his phone and says his phone unlocked. He doesn't say how he did it but I'm thinking someone might want to contact him and ask him how he did it. About 2 minutes in he shows this
https://youtu.be/6a8BkESzAXs
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I was trying to find a thread about the bootloader being unlocked on this phone and couldn't find one. I came across this video on YouTube where this guy turns on his phone and says his phone unlocked. He doesn't say how he did it but I'm thinking someone might want to contact him and ask him how he did it. About 2 minutes in he shows this
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Most likely a review unit like others have had, release software dosnt have OEM unlock option in developers, if something comes of the int. Version we may be able to get rebranding but has yet to be seen
He commented about it being a devkit under the comment by Markus Haier here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5pxYxPSbl_s and said he was going to make a video on it but still nothing.
@o012 Well my P30-Pro (VOG-L09) has OEM unlocking under developer options but haven't tried unlocking.
All works in canada except certain banking apps google backup netflix google pay androis assistant needs to be rebooted everytime. Rest all works fine including google photo backup
Has anyone installed a custom ROM and TWRP to it yet.
Could a Gapps package help the issues? Gapps include all the google services and system setting to keep google stable and updating.
Think Gapps could be installed via the phones built in bootloader??.
What's the best guide to root the G970U? I'm finding guides for the Exynos variant but not so much for this one. Have even read that it can't be rooted or it isn't supported so far :crying:
As far as I know, the Snapdragon variant is not rootable. From what I understand, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Samsung has this one completely locked down.
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As far as I know, the Snapdragon variant is not rootable. From what I understand, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. Samsung has this one completely locked down.
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I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
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I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
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I would not recommend it. The form factor and specs are all great, although the battery is a bit on the small side. It has automated power savings features, except you can't control those easily with Tasker (you can with Bixby, but most of its profile triggers are pretty limited). And the power savings features appear to mute Google navigation when the screen shuts off.
But after being on custom roms since basically the beginning, One UI has been a gigantic pain to learn where all the settings are (and getting around not being rooted to do things I like/need). I could go on and on.
I put off upgrading for years for a smaller phone with decent specs. This was about the only option for me. I'd definitely recommend the Exynos version, but that's a no-go if you're in the US.
Too bad. I was just thinking about upgrading from my XZ1 Compact and this phone otherwise seems perfect:
1. NORMAL size
2. Fingerprint sensor on the side
3. SD card
4. 3.5mm plug
I can't root Samsung Galaxy S10e Snapdragon.
I already unlocked oem lock, kg lock.
But I can't find the right twrp for beyond0q. (no lte)
The office twrp is only beyond0qlte. It is no usable.
I flash TWRP_G9700_3.3.1-9.tar success.
but I don't know why I install magisk failed.
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Too bad. I was just thinking about upgrading from my XZ1 Compact and this phone otherwise seems perfect:
1. NORMAL size
2. Fingerprint sensor on the side
3. SD card
4. 3.5mm plug
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rpgdev said:
I see. Thanks for replying. I wasn't keen on coming back to Samsung but the form factor of this phone is almost irresistible to me. However, seeing as how development is almost nonexistent I think I'm gonna pass on this phone.
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Actually, G9700 (snapdraon) variant of s10e is unlockable, but it is ture that few custom roms are available...
I would like to root just so I can have control over my phone, but I guess those Android days are over here in the US. ?
And it's sad because this phone is almost perfect. Having the fingerprint reader on the back and giving it a normal power button would make it so. Every company out there is a churning out overpriced phablets with a load of junk we don't need nor care for.
I also currently use a Sony, an X Compact. It's getting rather long in the tooth, but still works well. I have gone ahead and ordered a Snapdragon s10e, as there is really no other current phone in that size category. Hopefully between Nova Launcher, Tasker and Automate I'll be able to set it up to my liking. To be honest, I'm most concerned about the unusual placement of the hardware buttons: try to adjust volume without activating the fp sensor, etc. But I imagine I can get used to handling it differently. @andTab
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I also currently use a Sony, an X Compact. It's getting rather long in the tooth, but still works well. I have gone ahead and ordered a Snapdragon s10e, as there is really no other current phone in that size category. Hopefully between Nova Launcher, Tasker and Automate I'll be able to set it up to my liking. To be honest, I'm most concerned about the unusual placement of the hardware buttons: try to adjust volume without activating the fp sensor, etc. But I imagine I can get used to handling it differently. @andTab
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I have a terrible problem hitting the Bixby and Volume keys when I try to press the power button. I had to use a re-mapping function to disable single & long press on Bixby.
Maybe I'll start a thread. I've managed to figure out almost everything I like to do, finally, with Tasker. A few things I need AutoInput for (which is far from ideal, unless it's a task you can do late at night when you aren't using your phone).
The single task I couldn't do satisfactorily was custom charging limits to try to save battery since I charge my phone overnight. That can only be done with root! Although this could maybe be accomplished by toggling the USB connection from charging to file transfer. But obviously that's not an option with wireless charging.
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...Maybe I'll start a thread. I've managed to figure out almost everything I like to do...
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Please do start a thread. Once I get my s10e I can contribute what I've been able to do using the few tools I'm familiar with.
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Actually, G9700 (snapdraon) variant of s10e is unlockable, but it is ture that few custom roms are available...
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Got a link for that guide? I dont care so much for having a custom rom flasher. I just want to root.
I have a G970U1. I have been trying to unlock the bootloader for several days with no joy. I can't get "OEM Unlocking" to appear in Developer Options. None of the procedures I've found online to make it appear have worked. Anybody here have any idea how to do it? Or, how to unlock the bootloader by any means?
Thanks!!
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I have a G970U1. I have been trying to unlock the bootloader for several days with no joy. I can't get "OEM Unlocking" to appear in Developer Options. None of the procedures I've found online to make it appear have worked. Anybody here have any idea how to do it? Or, how to unlock the bootloader by any means?
Thanks!!
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cuteness...
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Ehh?? I'm rapidly approaching a conclusion that Samsung has succeeded in making the bootloader on the G970U1 unbreakable. I'm really hoping for someone to prove me wrong. Please?
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Ehh?? I'm rapidly approaching a conclusion that Samsung has succeeded in making the bootloader on the G970U1 unbreakable. I'm really hoping for someone to prove me wrong. Please?
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This answer is kinda condescending and not helpful. I get it's a pain to explain the birds and bees all the time, but it's even more of a pain to browse hundreds of non-answers on XDA to find info.
@wseverin he's basically saying that the G970U/1 doesn't have an OEM switch in developer settings because it's not *factory unlockable*. Generally, only the EU, by forcing telecoms and Samsung through legislation, have phones with unlockable bootloaders.
Truth is, there IS a way to root the US version of the 10e. You can find various threads on XDA of people referring to Telegram channels where they'll charge you money to remotely root your phone.
They do this through either various hardware/software dongle bundles, or ENG firmware. The S7 / G930U was rooted with an ENG firmware flash - at the expense of battery life.
In this thread they talk specifically about using ENG firmware to unlock the bootloader of the G970U: https://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f1...sm-g975-sm-g973-sm-g970-2570127/#post13639840
For US devices the only solution is by flashing an eng-boot + script if it exists for your particular device/version.
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Whether or not that would work, I don't know. I've ordered a couple of S10e to test on. But I'm surprise that there hasn't been more work done to explore this solution on XDA. There used to be big bounties here to get root and bootloaders unlocked.
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But I'm surprise that there hasn't been more work done to explore this solution on XDA. There used to be big bounties here to get root and bootloaders unlocked.
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Thanks for these infos which haven't been shared on XDA yet.
IMO those with the knowledge to root the G970U think that they can make more profit by selling the rooting service for 100 or 200 $ per phone than to collect the bounty (although I think that they are wrong with this.)
I'm quite annoyed by the posts on XDA which advertise the paid rooting service (like "contact me per PM to get further infos"), although I can't really care as an Exynos user.
Has anyone found a way to root sm-g970U in 2021 for android 11? or its just not worth the effort
No, I just bought one used from amazon for 300 euros and they sent me a SM-G970U....now I have to send it back and ask for a refund and get a SM-970F somewhere (for similar price range ofc, I live in Italy)....i'm almost sorry, it looks new
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No, I just bought one used from amazon for 300 euros and they sent me a SM-G970U....now I have to send it back and ask for a refund and get a SM-970F somewhere (for similar price range ofc, I live in Italy)....i'm almost sorry, it looks new
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Lol i know how you feel but dont because trust me if youre a root fan you arent gonna enjoy it tbh i sold mine like a few weeks after i got it and im just planning to get an Iphone and use it for the forseable future until i change my mind. If you love root dont buy the S or Note devices buy the j or A but if you dont like those i know because they are low end devices sometimes especially for a gamer..... so intead probably get a poco phone one of the newer ones with a snapdragon 860 or a xiaomi with flagship tier performance etc because i know xiaomi and google pixels there bootloaders can be opened and the warranty isnt voided permanently.... meaning once you unroot you get back warranty atleast thats what im sure ive noted.
I know there are threads regarding how to remove Bloatware and the various apps ...... but this is a specific question to ask if people really find it helpful to remove stuff and why ?? And are there any downsides?
Preface this with in the day of custom ROMs often the developer had “done the work for us” when streamlining stuff.
I just don’t want to go the route of removing or disabling stuff if people are really finding it helpful
Thanks
I've never ever done it. Never found the need. Battery life and performance has never been an issue for me. And I've owned the S7E, S8+, S9+, S10+, S10 5G, S20 Ultra and Note 20 Ultra 5G.
Depending on what you remove, it can/will disable some useful features. I don't see the point removing anything on an expensive flagship when there's no need, especially when there's little to no gain.
Personally, i remove all the bloatware with revo uninstaller. Bloatware are simply garbage and useless, it's make your smartphone slow. You can't uninstall all bloatwares if not your phone crashes.
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I've never ever done it. Never found the need. Battery life and performance has never been an issue for me. And I've owned the S7E, S8+, S9+, S10+, S10 5G, S20 Ultra and Note 20 Ultra 5G.
Depending on what you remove, it can/will disable some useful features. I don't see the point removing anything on an expensive flagship when there's no need, especially when there's little to no gain.
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Just curious have your devices been the exyons versions?
I live in the UK and always had exynos and never really had any problems but there is tones of hate for exynos
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Just curious have your devices been the exyons versions?
I live in the UK and always had exynos and never really had any problems but there is tones of hate for exynos
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Yep, all Exynos here in Australia. Never had any issues with them. A lot of the Exynos hae is just people jumping on the bandwagon.
Sure it performs worse than SD on benchmarks etc, but who buys a phone to run benchmarks? I don't care if the SD runs a little better than mine. As long as mien does what I need it to do with enough performance, I have no problem with that. And it works perfectly fine, no battery issues,no heat issues. I love mine
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I've never ever done it. Never found the need. Battery life and performance has never been an issue for me. And I've owned the S7E, S8+, S9+, S10+, S10 5G, S20 Ultra and Note 20 Ultra 5G.
Depending on what you remove, it can/will disable some useful features. I don't see the point removing anything on an expensive flagship when there's no need, especially when there's little to no gain.
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Thanks for the advice — I have to admit that I loved custom ROMs in the past that had quite a bit of stuff removed but when it was all said and done it didn’t really increase performance , maybe just appearance ... in the “stock” android direction. I’m sure there is a lot of stuff that I might choose to remove but when it was said and done not really know how it could effect other things —- Thanks for your experience
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Thanks for the advice — I have to admit that I loved custom ROMs in the past that had quite a bit of stuff removed but when it was all said and done it didn’t really increase performance , maybe just appearance ... in the “stock” android direction. I’m sure there is a lot of stuff that I might choose to remove but when it was said and done not really know how it could effect other things —- Thanks for your experience
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Yea, I used to be the same, in the past with custom ROMs. I used to make my own custom ROMs for pre-Android Windows Mobile devices. Then in Android I'd like ROMs with a lot of stuff removed. But later decided I preferred stock, or custom with not as much removed, as there was no difference. It was just more of a placebo. I prefer to have everything in the phone working as it was designed.
Sure, I uninstall some preinstalled software such as Spotify, but certainly nothing more than that. No debloating.
i do and you know why i do? because i can. this aint no damn iphone where it's on lockdown. simple as that
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Yea, I used to be the same, in the past with custom ROMs. I used to make my own custom ROMs for pre-Android Windows Mobile devices. Then in Android I'd like ROMs with a lot of stuff removed. But later decided I preferred stock, or custom with not as much removed, as there was no difference. It was just more of a placebo. I prefer to have everything in the phone working as it was designed.
Sure, I uninstall some preinstalled software such as Spotify, but certainly nothing more than that. No debloating.
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Was looking at your bio on your response. I live in the USA, but my son lived in Australia for about a year and a half - he loved it! I just told him a few days ago , he’s single and 29 yo, that maybe with all the crap going on in the USA maybe he should move back to Australia !! You guys have a beautiful country according to my son !!!
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I've never ever done it. Never found the need. Battery life and performance has never been an issue for me. And I've owned the S7E, S8+, S9+, S10+, S10 5G, S20 Ultra and Note 20 Ultra 5G.
Depending on what you remove, it can/will disable some useful features. I don't see the point removing anything on an expensive flagship when there's no need, especially when there's little to no gain.
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Hmmm you are in Austrailia ,correct me if I am wrong. I am thinking U.S carriers put waaay more bloatware on the phones as compared to carriers in other countries
Yea, I really don't want all the games and **** att adds. At least the games uninstall, some of the att crap just disables.
i use package disabler to disable bloatware, works like a charm
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Was looking at your bio on your response. I live in the USA, but my son lived in Australia for about a year and a half - he loved it! I just told him a few days ago , he’s single and 29 yo, that maybe with all the crap going on in the USA maybe he should move back to Australia !! You guys have a beautiful country according to my son !!!
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Yea, Australia is an amazing country. I absolutely love it here. I moved here from Scotland back in 2001 when I was 21 (met and married an Aussie ). Scotland is also a beautiful coutry in it's own right. But I love the heat, the laid back lifestyle, and the vast landscape of Australia. :good:
It's the perfect place for a single bloke to live :laugh:
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Hmmm you are in Austrailia ,correct me if I am wrong. I am thinking U.S carriers put waaay more bloatware on the phones as compared to carriers in other countries
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This could be a fair point. I've never used a US phone, and US carriers may well put more crap in their devices. But from the debloat lists I've seen on the forum, a lot of thigns that get removed aren't bloat, they're actual services, both Android and Samsung.
So sure, I would agree to removing all the carrier specific crap, but I wouldn't remove anything more. That's just me though
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Yep, all Exynos here in Australia. Never had any issues with them. A lot of the Exynos hae is just people jumping on the bandwagon.
Sure it performs worse than SD on benchmarks etc, but who buys a phone to run benchmarks? I don't care if the SD runs a little better than mine. As long as mien does what I need it to do with enough performance, I have no problem with that. And it works perfectly fine, no battery issues,no heat issues. I love mine
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Totally agree I've had nothing but exynos and all seemed to do just fine I had the s20 ultra briefly which did seem to get warm quite quick but my note 20 ultra seems to run a lot cooler and battery life is better even tho its smaller
Totally of topic but my girlfriends family are from Scotland and one of her brothers have done the exact same thing met a girl in aussie and stayed there said its the best thing he has ever done lol :good:
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i use package disabler to disable bloatware, works like a charm
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So Package Disabler Pro (Samsung) works? Will buy if so. Just ordered mine, waiting for it to get shipped.
I would suggest using CCSWE instead. Unlike PDP it doesn't asks for another purchase when changing or restoring phones. In addition, there seems to be issues with it on Android 10. Backup export/import is not working
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I would suggest using CCSWE instead. Unlike PDP it doesn't asks for another purchase when changing or restoring phones. In addition, there seems to be issues with it on Android 10. Backup export/import is not working
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I used it on the Note 10+ but 4-5 months ago it stopped working and wasn't working in August when I got the Note 20 Ultra, something about the author not keeping his Knox license current. Have the issue been fixed? I have it and Package Disabler pro but have switched to PD Pro because of his issues. I have had not issues with backup, export, import or having to buy anything else when restoring phone on PD Pro.
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Have the issue been fixed?
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Yes, all resolved and working again. And it can be reinstalled with previous licence honored, as it should be
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So Package Disabler Pro (Samsung) works? Will buy if so. Just ordered mine, waiting for it to get shipped.
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Yes, it works perfectly on note20 ultra
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Yes, it works perfectly on note20 ultra
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I use PD MDM because with all the other Playstore blockers Sammy* ended up leaning on them to remove blocking for AT&T Software Updates.
I block apk this like religion.
PD MDM is not on Playstore anymore so the rules have changed in their favor.
Zero issues with it on the 10+ running on Pie. License transferred automatically after last 2 reloads.
*remember AT&T and Samsung are partnered...
Hi, Everyone
I am new to buy a xiaomi phone and use in Canada.
I plan to buy an either 12s Ultra or 13 Ultra from China, and likely it may come with Chinese ROM.
Canadian friends and users of Chinese ROM in Canada, will my phone receive OTA update in Canada?
I know there are tutorials to unlock bootloader and flash global rom. I am not familiar with it and won't do it as soon as I got my phone.
Please let me know
Thanks all
there is no global rom for this model, the solution is to use a Xiaomi Eu rom.
Also check coverage according to your carrier.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-12s-ultra
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Hi, Everyone
I am new to buy a xiaomi phone and use in Canada.
I plan to buy an either 12s Ultra or 13 Ultra from China, and likely it may come with Chinese ROM.
Canadian friends and users of Chinese ROM in Canada, will my phone receive OTA update in Canada?
I know there are tutorials to unlock bootloader and flash global rom. I am not familiar with it and won't do it as soon as I got my phone.
Please let me know
Thanks all
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Yes you will get OTA in Canada. I am currently using the 12s Ultra and have been getting updates with no problem.
I am currently using the Chinese ROM and no problem at all. Google works fine except Android auto. There is no Global ROM officialy from Xiaomi.
avfs313 said:
Yes you will get OTA in Canada. I am currently using the 12s Ultra and have been getting updates with no problem.
I am currently using the Chinese ROM and no problem at all. Google works fine except Android auto. There is no Global ROM officialy from Xiaomi.
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thanks. i am aware of no global rom and andriod auto wont work.
good to know ota works.
i have bought a 13 ultra. I read it will be released globally. once it does we should get global rom for that phone. im very excited.
Hi eeveryone,
Will VPN and banking apps work if I get Xiaomi 13 ultra chinese rom ? Not sure I want to wait for global rom version.
Nickarse said:
Hi eeveryone,
Will VPN and banking apps work if I get Xiaomi 13 ultra chinese rom ? Not sure I want to wait for global rom version.
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I am waiting for my 13U from PDA Plaza. If shipping date provided by PDA Plaza is accurate, I should have it some time next week. Fingers crossed.
I will let you know whether VPN and banking apps will work.
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I am waiting for my 13U from PDA Plaza. If shipping date provided by PDA Plaza is accurate, I should have it some time next week. Fingers crossed.
I will let you know whether VPN and banking apps will work.
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Ok thanks,
I hope you get it soon ! I am split between ordering from PDA or Mi4canada so would be interested to know how you get on.
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Ok thanks,
I hope you get it soon ! I am split between ordering from PDA or Mi4canada so would be interested to know how you get on.
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I got my 13u on Thursday last week and have used it for few days.
It is a good device.
I can confirm VPN works. I tested NordVPN.
I didn't use banking app because it is better staying on my other phone. I have bought chinese phone in the past, GT NEO 2 and banking apps worked on it. So I am not concerned.
Also, I find installing google play store is very easy. Google play store exists in mi app store. Click and update is it takes to install play store.
I find widgets are way better than samsung andriod phone i have used in the past, much more varieties to explore.
Only point bothers me is phone shape.
Camera module on the back and a curve around the middle makes phone awkward to hold at first. Need some to adjust to it.
This is not a deal breaker for me.
Let me know you want to know anything else about it.
Thanks for the update, great to hear that you got it, and quickly too. How is 5g reception and are the cameras all they are made out to be ?...except obviously the selfie cam... not that i'm much of a selfier anyway. Did it come with a screen protector installed ? Have you noticed any adds ? Nobody on youtube has mentioned it but I heard xiaomi phones in the past suffered from that.
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Thanks for the update, great to hear that you got it, and quickly too. How is 5g reception and are the cameras all they are made out to be ?...except obviously the selfie cam... not that i'm much of a selfier anyway. Did it come with a screen protector installed ? Have you noticed any adds ? Nobody on youtube has mentioned it but I heard xiaomi phones in the past suffered from that.
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1. 5G: I am on a carrier doesn't offer 5g.
2. Camera: I am not proficient in photography knowledge. This comment comes from an average user. I like this camera. It is very snappy and responsive. Good to catch that quick moment. I took some photos of my black dog. It looks good. Dog at the center and background blurs makes it great. I am not a selfie guy either. Haven't tried selfie at all.
3. Screen protector: Yes it comes with a pre-install one. Also, it has a plastics case.
4. Ads: not so much ads surprisingly. There are ads in mi app store. When I install an app, bottom of screen will show suggested apps. They disappear in few seconds. Not a deal breaker to me for two reasons. Suggested apps don't stay long on the screen, and I mainly use play store.
I also want to mention bloatware apps. I am a bit surprised by this one. It comes with many pre-installed apps that are definitely not relevant or useful. However, I can uninstall them just like any regular apps. So far I have uninstalled almost all of them except pre-installed keyboards, and there are three of them. It is redundant.
I hope this answers your question. Let me know if you have more questions. I am more happy to answer.
Thanks very much.
I've had the ultra 12s for 9 months. I've kept the Chinese ROM as I don't feel like doing all the changes for EU from. Updates and everything works great except for Android Auto which is mildly frustrating but not a deal breaker. 5G works great, I just find that QR codes don't always work for some strange reason. Besides that it's been a fantastic phone and the UI is pretty good. I am happy to hear about the Global version of 13s Ultra. Not sure if I'll upgrade, but overall he phone has been about perfect.