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[Q] Shorten wifi sleep timeout after screen off (Solved)

In the wifi sleep policy, it is possible to set wifi to sleep after screen off. However wifi does not sleep immediately but 15 minutes after screen off. I would like wifi to sleep earlier, say 5 minutes after screen off.
I searched around and found an app capable of doing this. But it is for samsung phones and doesn't work for defy. Does anyone know if and how it can be set manually?

Juicedefender. That is the exact app to use.

I tried Juice Defender. There are options to disable wifi based on connection existence, preset time, data flow etc, but there is no option to set the how long after screen off wifi would sleep.

Here you go, this should do what you want: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774507
Good luck

Hmm I actually set my wifi to never turn off automatically. For instance yesterday I made a phonecall with Skype. My mobile connection is too slow for that so I switched the wifi on. During the phonecall I had the screen turned off but of course the wifi needed to stay on.
I have a widgetsoid widget on my homescreen to enable/disable the wifi. Don't like it when things go automatic and it's just as easy when you need wifi only once in a while.

AgentSmith said:
Hmm I actually set my wifi to never turn off automatically. For instance yesterday I made a phonecall with Skype. My mobile connection is too slow for that so I switched the wifi on. During the phonecall I had the screen turned off but of course the wifi needed to stay on.
I have a widgetsoid widget on my homescreen to enable/disable the wifi. Don't like it when things go automatic and it's just as easy when you need wifi only once in a while.
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Since i changed my ROM, my wifi actually goes to sleep after 15 minutes and I don't want it to turn off.
How do you set your wifi to never turn off automatically?

naenee said:
Here you go, this should do what you want: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774507
Good luck
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Thanks! Unfortunately moto doesn't have the settings.db file. I tried putting the mentioned key "wifi_idle_ms" in several other files but no effect.
Edit:
Stupid me. I find the location of settings.db and it works perfectly now
For information, the location of defy's settings.db is:
/data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db

woonaval said:
Since i changed my ROM, my wifi actually goes to sleep after 15 minutes and I don't want it to turn off.
How do you set your wifi to never turn off automatically?
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In the wifi settings screen, press the menu button to get the advanced options.

ABC_Universal said:
In the wifi settings screen, press the menu button to get the advanced options.
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wow that was easy, thanks!

woonaval said:
wow that was easy, thanks!
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Indeed!
Thanks guys; I can now listen to TuneIn radio as long as I want (or my battery allows me to).

If you intend to save battery, maybe you should consider leave "wireless policy" to "never sleep".
It might sound senseless but there are a lot of people reporting substantial battery savings with this, including me, i noticed at least +20 hours in battery life only with this little thing. Charts drawn with Battery Monitor showed the same consumption, Wireless OFF. vs Wireless policy to never sleep. And the most expensive was policy of sleep when screen turned off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022390

unrafa said:
If you intend to save battery, maybe you should consider leave "wireless policy" to "never sleep".
It might sound senseless but there are a lot of people reporting substantial battery savings with this, including me, i noticed at least +20 hours in battery life only with this little thing. Charts drawn with Battery Monitor showed the same consumption, Wireless OFF. vs Wireless policy to never sleep. And the most expensive was policy of sleep when screen turned off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022390
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That's probably the case for 3g. But I'm using 2g and find 2g uses less battery than wifi in standby mode (with some background data sync).

naenee said:
Here you go, this should do what you want: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774507
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Thanks, naenee, for the link. In case anyone is interested, I just made a simplified adaptation of RyanZA's guide, specifically for the DEFY: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22639770

What causes my bad battery life?

Hi, I'm worried about my bad battery life. Any ideas what it causes or how to improve?
I'm on latest Carbon Rom (Android 4.4.2), Now activated, Hotword detection off.
Logs and Screenshots: see attachment

I don't get it. You have 1 day 9 hour usage and 1 hour 42 screen time. Your screen time is low but your usage is quite a while, better than mine. Could be bad signal, you have 1 bar in all the screenshots posted. Try turning off sync or mobile data when not in use.

It's a combination of poor signal and gps settings.
Switch location mode to Device only and get us an overnight BBS log.

System UI is unusually high. I can only assume this is customized UI elements draining the battery. Google services are 2nd on your list so locations and auto syncs, among other things.
When you're getting normal battery life Screen should be at the top. Anything draining more than Screen you need to look into.
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mistahseller said:
I don't get it. You have 1 day 9 hour usage and 1 hour 42 screen time. Your screen time is low but your usage is quite a while, better than mine. Could be bad signal, you have 1 bar in all the screenshots posted. Try turning off sync or mobile data when not in use.
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Actually, he charged the phone (look at the first picture above the number 26 ) and as result, it was less than 1 day, 9h.

Aerowinder said:
It's a combination of poor signal and gps settings.
Switch location mode to Device only and get us an overnight BBS log.
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Thanks for the quick answer. I switched to 'device only'. Please find attached the overnight BBS log.

any ideas? someone?

Hi,
I see systemui is at the top of the list in all your screens. Are you using "pocket mode" or lockscreen notifications? I had the same issue on Mahdi rom and it went away when i disabled "pocket mode"
Are you running a custom kernel?
Some general battery saving tips are :
-Lower your brightness (i have mine set at 20%)
-Download "Wakelock Detector" and "Greenify" from playstore. These 2 apps will solve any wakelock problems.
-Turn Google Location Reporting and Location History off.
Sometimes a simple reboot does wonder for your phone.
Everybody has their own best combo of ROM + kernel so it will be up to you to find what works for you.
I'm currently running Mahdi's ROM + Elementalx and get 4 hours of screen time, 4 hours of music playback (from SD card) and 20+ hours of standby time

simplyazn04 said:
Hi,
I see systemui is at the top of the list in all your screens. Are you using "pocket mode" or lockscreen notifications? I had the same issue on Mahdi rom and it went away when i disabled "pocket mode"
Are you running a custom kernel?
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Hi, yes I'm using pocket mode. Too bad that it's drains this much battery! I love this feature

to me it looks as you having terrible wifi. and since you left the wifi on, your terrible signal drained the battery.

Towelie90 said:
Hi, yes I'm using pocket mode. Too bad that it's drains this much battery! I love this feature
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Try turning off the feature for a day and see if it improves your battery life any.
I'm also a big fan of the pocket mode feature and s2w/dt2w features because i hate reaching for the power button but it killed my battery.
What i can suggest to you is to try an app called Gravity Screen by one of our very own xda developer. Somehow, he managed to get the turn screen on/off via proximity sensor to barely drain any battery. I use this app combined with Dynamic Notifications and every time i take my phone out of my pocket, i get notifications like the Moto X and screen on without power button.
Best of luck!

flash back to stock & change tamper flag, and get an exchange. I found out that the earlier models have some with batt and radio problems

simplyazn04 said:
Try turning off the feature for a day and see if it improves your battery life any.
I'm also a big fan of the pocket mode feature and s2w/dt2w features because i hate reaching for the power button but it killed my battery.
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Confirmed. Pocket Mode killed my battery, too. Since I deactivated it, my battery life is acceptable.
simplyazn04 said:
What i can suggest to you is to try an app called Gravity Screen by one of our very own xda developer. Somehow, he managed to get the turn screen on/off via proximity sensor to barely drain any battery. I use this app combined with Dynamic Notifications and every time i take my phone out of my pocket, i get notifications like the Moto X and screen on without power button.
Best of luck!
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I'll give it a try! Thank you very much for your detailed help!

[Guide] Carrier Locked /Snapdragon/ S9+ 10 Hours SOT by Hiro

How to reliably get 10 hours of screen on time or more with the snapdragon s9+.
I do not use the "battery saving modes" under the top swipe menu. If you only apply parts of these settings, you will get worse battery life. I can reliabally get 10 hours with 30% brightness. I have gotten over 13 hours with more conservative settings, btw.
https://i.imgur.com/bCCSYGP.png
1. Settings
Wifi>
/Advanced>
//switch to mobile data (off) ; get better wifi if too slow, and manually disconnect.
//Turn wifi on automatically (off) ; !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this uses a lot of power
//wifi power saving mode (on)
//network notification (off)
//Autoconnect to at&t wifi (off)
connections>
/Bluetooth connect to nearby devices (off)
/NFC and payment (off)
/more connection settings>
//Nearby devise scanning (off) ; !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this uses a lot of power
Display>
Auto brightness (off) ; change the brightness yourself when you need it.
Screen mode (basic)
Screen resolution HD (1480x720)
Led indicator (off)
Block accidental touches (off) ; this saves lots of battery
Screen saver (off)
Advanced settings>
Smart stay (off)
Direct call (off)
Smart alert (off)
Easy mute (off)
Video enhancer (off)
Touch sensitivity (off)
Lock screen and security>
Smart lock (disable everything)
Biometrics (off) ; use a pin, fingerprint or password.
Always on display (off) ; this is a important one
App permission monitor (off)
Cloud accounts>
Off, use google drive only.
If not enough space use SD card, there is a card reader in the phone for a reason.
NFC; off
Bluetooth; off
Secure folder; off
Edge lighting; off
Smart view; off
Dolby atmos; off
Now the important bits
Download and use google messages
Download and use google dialer. (You need to use the patched one for non nexus devices.)
Download and use nova launcher (I cant use Samsung experience without being displeased)
Download and use google contacts
Download and use gboard
Long press on power saving
Unmonitored apps> messages, phone, gboard, contacts
Always sleeping apps>
Every single app in the phone that you do not depend on auto updating in the background.
PS: I personally am offering a bounty for modifying the SD card to be internal storage without root. I tried the classic adb commands to no avail.

I've made a couple changes based on your list.
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"Amazing battery life", by disabling every feature of the phone. Lol, I've gotten close to 10 hours with all that **** enabled. Give me a break.
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A motorola razr will get that kind of battery life too

Yea lets gimp the phone....seriously why did you get the s9 lol. I use all my features i want turned on.. left phone off charger lost 3 % in 9 hours in standby mode. Pretty da$n good if ya ask me

Now why would i buy a expensive phone and turn all that off, i might as well use a flip phone seriously, i have all of it on from that list and i am happy with my AT&T S9 Plus getting over 8 hrs and half SOT with brightness at 95% and display at WQHD, that is nonsense to turn all that off.
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Venom0642 said:
Now why would i buy a expensive phone and turn all that off, i might as well use a flip phone seriously, i have all of it on from that list and i am happy with my AT&T S9 Plus getting over 8 hrs and half SOT with brightness at 95% and display at WQHD, that is nonsense to turn all that off.
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Exactly!!!!!!!! Might as well buy a flip phone or Jitterbug

tomkleeeb said:
How to reliably get 10 hours of screen on time or more with the snapdragon s9+.
I do not use the "battery saving modes" under the top swipe menu. If you only apply parts of these settings, you will get worse battery life. I can reliabally get 10 hours with 30% brightness. I have gotten over 13 hours with more conservative settings, btw.
https://i.imgur.com/bCCSYGP.png
1. Settings
Wifi>
/Advanced>
//switch to mobile data (off) ; get better wifi if too slow, and manually disconnect.
//Turn wifi on automatically (off) ; !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this uses a lot of power
//wifi power saving mode (on)
//network notification (off)
//Autoconnect to at&t wifi (off)
connections>
/Bluetooth connect to nearby devices (off)
/NFC and payment (off)
/more connection settings>
//Nearby devise scanning (off) ; !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this uses a lot of power
Display>
Auto brightness (off) ; change the brightness yourself when you need it.
Screen mode (basic)
Screen resolution HD (1480x720)
Led indicator (off)
Block accidental touches (off) ; this saves lots of battery
Screen saver (off)
Advanced settings>
Smart stay (off)
Direct call (off)
Smart alert (off)
Easy mute (off)
Video enhancer (off)
Touch sensitivity (off)
Lock screen and security>
Smart lock (disable everything)
Biometrics (off) ; use a pin, fingerprint or password.
Always on display (off) ; this is a important one
App permission monitor (off)
Cloud accounts>
Off, use google drive only.
If not enough space use SD card, there is a card reader in the phone for a reason.
NFC; off
Bluetooth; off
Secure folder; off
Edge lighting; off
Smart view; off
Dolby atmos; off
Now the important bits
Download and use google messages
Download and use google dialer. (You need to use the patched one for non nexus devices.)
Download and use nova launcher (I cant use Samsung experience without being displeased)
Download and use google contacts
Download and use gboard
Long press on power saving
Unmonitored apps> messages, phone, gboard, contacts
Always sleeping apps>
Every single app in the phone that you do not depend on auto updating in the background.
PS: I personally am offering a bounty for modifying the SD card to be internal storage without root. I tried the classic adb commands to no avail.
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Thanks for all the tips and tricks. This is some great info!
I disabled a few things from your list that I won't use, left some others on.
Not sure why everyone is complaining and whining, but thank you!

LOL why would you buy an S9+ just to disable every feature and set it to 720p? Get a grip man

I can understand the desire, but making the SD adoptable storage negates having super fast UFS 2.1 storage. I could understand if we had slow eMMC or the like, but the storage in these phones are some of the fastest you can get, there's a real speed and usability advantage.

daraj said:
Exactly!!!!!!!! Might as well buy a flip phone or Jitterbug
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Venom0642 said:
Now why would i buy a expensive phone and turn all that off, i might as well use a flip phone seriously, i have all of it on from that list and i am happy with my AT&T S9 Plus getting over 8 hrs and half SOT with brightness at 95% and display at WQHD, that is nonsense to turn all that off.
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sarni84 said:
Yea lets gimp the phone....seriously why did you get the s9 lol. I use all my features i want turned on.. left phone off charger lost 3 % in 9 hours in standby mode. Pretty da$n good if ya ask me
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darkjedi said:
"Amazing battery life", by disabling every feature of the phone. Lol, I've gotten close to 10 hours with all that **** enabled. Give me a break.
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Every year it amazes me how many people use every single feature the phone has.... I never hear of anyone using some of these features on a daily but keeping them enabled obviously is the smart thing to do? Genius.... loving this Generation more and more by the day

Turning a bunch of those features off would drive me crazy. Smart stay is worth whatever small amount of battery it uses to keep the screen from constantly turning off while I'm in the middle of something. And it lets me get away with a shorter timeout, which probably saves more battery than Smart stay uses. Reducing screen resolution has, at best, a tiny impact on battery life. We've got the best screen in the business - why cripple it? LED Off? Yeah, why would I want to know when I have an email or text message, or a missed call? Let those people wait!
Block accidental touches uses far less power than having the phone constantly turning the screen on while it's in your pocket or purse. Smart lock? For sure. Who wants convenience when you can get an extra 10 minutes of battery life instead? And Google apps? Really? The savings in battery life, if there's any at all, is probably measured in seconds per day.
And there's no reason not to let the keyboard sleep. It will wake up as soon as you want to type something. And it uses zero battery when you're not actually typing (and damn little even when you are typing). Actually, most of the apps on your phone use negligible battery when they're not actually in use. Go to Settings / Apps and look at actual CPU and battery usage. Most of them will show zero.
A few of these are legitimate if you don't actively use the features, but aside from the network stuff most will have minimal impact on battery life.

AT&T S9 Plus all day at work 4G LTE been at work all day 95% brightness and resolution WQHD all my features are on at 62% battery SOT 3hrs and 46 min Outstanding battery life, so there's no need to turn all those features in the list which is nonsense.
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Venom0642 said:
AT&T S9 Plus all day at work 4G LTE been at work all day 95% brightness and resolution WQHD all my features are on at 62% battery SOT 3hrs and 46 min Outstanding battery life, so there's no need to turn all those features in the list which is nonsense.
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I want to know why your phone has been on for 4 hours while you're at work! I'm telling your boss! Get off Twitter! ?

zathus said:
I want to know why your phone has been on for 4 hours while you're at work! I'm telling your boss! Get off Twitter! ?
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Lol i am the boss at my job ???
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meyerweb said:
Turning a bunch of those features off would drive me crazy. Smart stay is worth whatever small amount of battery it uses to keep the screen from constantly turning off while I'm in the middle of something. And it lets me get away with a shorter timeout, which probably saves more battery than Smart stay uses. Reducing screen resolution has, at best, a tiny impact on battery life. We've got the best screen in the business - why cripple it? LED Off? Yeah, why would I want to know when I have an email or text message, or a missed call? Let those people wait!
Block accidental touches uses far less power than having the phone constantly turning the screen on while it's in your pocket or purse. Smart lock? For sure. Who wants convenience when you can get an extra 10 minutes of battery life instead? And Google apps? Really? The savings in battery life, if there's any at all, is probably measured in seconds per day.
And there's no reason not to let the keyboard sleep. It will wake up as soon as you want to type something. And it uses zero battery when you're not actually typing (and damn little even when you are typing). Actually, most of the apps on your phone use negligible battery when they're not actually in use. Go to Settings / Apps and look at actual CPU and battery usage. Most of them will show zero.
A few of these are legitimate if you don't actively use the features, but aside from the network stuff most will have minimal impact on battery life.
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I agree to keep the features on that you use... but the gestures where I pick up my phone and it vibrates or wipe my hand over the screen i never use and Im sure many others dont use either. I run 1440p with LED on and its amazing battery life

TheDantee said:
Every year it amazes me how many people use every single feature the phone has.... I never hear of anyone using some of these features on a daily but keeping them enabled obviously is the smart thing to do? Genius.... loving this Generation more and more by the day
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So many assumptions here I don't know where to begin, but I'll just say it makes more sense to leave on all the features you're paying $900 for then to spend the $900 and use setting to turn the phone into a mid-range phone from 2015.

vintagerock said:
So many assumptions here I don't know where to begin, but I'll just say it makes more sense to leave on all the features you're paying $900 for then to spend the $900 and use setting to turn the phone into a mid-range phone from 2015.
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Why have something run in the background you never use?
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vintagerock said:
So many assumptions here I don't know where to begin, but I'll just say it makes more sense to leave on all the features you're paying $900 for then to spend the $900 and use setting to turn the phone into a mid-range phone from 2015.
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Agree with you, if people are not gonna use features and turn everything off, then a Smart phone is not for you buy a flip phone and you be all set , a 950.00 to turn all those features it's totally nonsense.
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The level of arrogance in this thread is appalling.
If you're not interested in disabling things, move on. We don't need lectures about your usage.
Either disable things, or don't. Move on and grow up.

app to force sleep and screen off at same time

i heard that the note 20 ultra may not be sleeping cores when screen is off and idle
also i have seen apps that can shut the screen off while forcing sleep at the same time
do not know what to type to find it as i want to test it on my note 20 ultra. anyone know of such apps list them below...

gloege said:
i heard that the note 20 ultra may not be sleeping cores when screen is off and idle
also i have seen apps that can shut the screen off while forcing sleep at the same time
do not know what to type to find it as i want to test it on my note 20 ultra. anyone know of such apps list them below...
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I use greenify. You don't have to be rooted to use it and there is a setting that puts apps you select to sleep and turn screen off (that might be a root feature tho, I'm not sure, I don't use it, I just have it set to force stop battery draining apps).

pre4speed said:
I use greenify. You don't have to be rooted to use it and there is a setting that puts apps you select to sleep and turn screen off (that might be a root feature tho, I'm not sure, I don't use it, I just have it set to force stop battery draining apps).
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NO i want a screen on off app that forces the whole phone to sleep every time you use it to turn off screen. like i said know one knows what i am talking about. but i did see it befor

gloege said:
NO i want a screen on off app that forces the whole phone to sleep every time you use it to turn off screen. like i said know one knows what i am talking about. but i did see it befor
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3rd party power management apps tend to screw things up by creating conflicts. You may find it better to let Android do it without using any other apps except to shutdown apps that are known offenders.
On my load it's Bixby (except Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision Framework) all cloud apps, Samsung Push, Gmail, Google backup Transport and Backup Transport Framework.
All I'm using is PD MDM and Settings changes on my 10+ running on Pie. You will need to -play- with it to optimize it. Most guides and power management apps just drop the ball.
Monitor it. The usage you see is AOD running. After I turned off the screen Android powered all the running Apps down. No trivmcks; in Stand By Apps you can see all are in the Active state, all the time, always but they power down when not in use. So much for buckets... using Samsung Device Manager adaptive power management will toggle those buckets to various states and cause more battery drain eventually.
Use Galaxy Labs>Battery Tracker
It's possible the newer versions of Samsung Device Manager run fine but test by monitoring and always be wary of all 3red party power management apps!

Have you looked into Bixby Routines or an app like Tasker where you can create rules? I can't say this will work (I don't use these apps), but if you haven't looked into using rule setting apps, that may be a solution for you.

still someone mentioned the note 20 ultra may not be sleeping the phones cores that is why battery life is so out of whack. i just wanted an app that when i tape it it will turn off the phone and sleep the cores instantly. someone mentioned it is better then waiting for the time it takes to let the phone do it. this will help me find out if the cores sleep or not buy using the app to see if it will give me better battery life. really no harm will be done. the phone sleeps cores anyway. but if a bug is keeping them awake i want to catch it and report it. so it be nice if i can find an app to shut off screen and sleep the cores as well and it will save my power button from wear

All I would like is an icon on my home screen that I could tap to turn the screen off. I feel I’m wearing out the power button the amount of times I use it to turn screen off. Not found any other way to do it

gloege said:
NO i want a screen on off app that forces the whole phone to sleep every time you use it to turn off screen. like i said know one knows what i am talking about. but i did see it befor
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g0tch said:
All I would like is an icon on my home screen that I could tap to turn the screen off. I feel I’m wearing out the power button the amount of times I use it to turn screen off. Not found any other way to do it
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Oh. Why didn't you say so?
Don't think Double Tap* works on 10....
but the Samsung Good Lock family app One Handed Operation Plus does
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lus&pcampaignid=APPU_1_dXJXX46SK8nEswXYmoWwDQ
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sl...tion-good-lock-app-from-samsung-11569355/amp/
This app is why you bought a curved screen Note....
*Double Tap may work on 10; it has a 2x tap on home button off option. No ads, no data usage, very low resource/battery usage. This is one of three screen off/no button options I have enabled.

blackhawk said:
Oh. Why didn't you say so?
Don't think Double Tap* works on 10....
but the Samsung Good Lock family app One Handed Operation Plus does
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.sidegesturepad&hl=en_US&referrer=utm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_term%3Done+handed+operation+plus&pcampaignid=APPU_1_dXJXX46SK8nEswXYmoWwDQ
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sl...tion-good-lock-app-from-samsung-11569355/amp/
This app is why you bought a curved screen Note....
*Double Tap may work on 10; it has a 2x tap on home button off option. No ads, no data usage, very low resource/battery usage. This is one of three screen off/no button options I have enabled.
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so will that force the whole phone into immediate sleep when i tap it and the screen goes off

gloege said:
so will that force the whole phone into immediate sleep when i tap it and the screen goes off
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Mine does but no idea how yours is configured.
The app simple turns off the screen same as hitting the power button.
Apps like Greenify tend to make a mess out of unrooted phones.

blackhawk said:
Mine does but no idea how yours is configured.
The app simple turns off the screen same as hitting the power button.
Apps like Greenify tend to make a mess out of unrooted phones.
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well i need it to turn off screen and force the phone into sleep the instant the screen goes off i heard of apps like this but never needed one

gloege said:
so will that force the whole phone into immediate sleep when i tap it and the screen goes off
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gloege said:
well i need it to turn off screen and force the phone into sleep the instant the screen goes off i heard of apps like this but never needed one
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To what end? I have about 60 apks blocked, no sync running for Gmail, Calendar, etc, no cloud apps, no trash message apps, no FB, Playstore is blocked unless I unblock it and no 3rd party power management*.
My OS "sleeps" within a minute or so of turning the screen off.
Still a lot of stuff running though plus I'm using AOD.
It uses a little under 1% of battery per hour and better with no AOD.
Reboots generally don't fix power issues at all.
*all 3rd party power management apps including Samsung's Device Manager (disabled) cause more problems than they solve and many times cause excessive power consumption as well. All my app buckets show as active in Developer Options.

blackhawk said:
To what end? I have about 60 apks blocked, no sync running for Gmail, Calendar, etc, no cloud apps, no trash message apps, no FB, Playstore is blocked unless I unblock it and no 3rd party power management*.
My OS "sleeps" within a minute or so of turning the screen off.
Still a lot of stuff running though plus I'm using AOD.
It uses a little under 1% of battery per hour and better with no AOD.
Reboots generally don't fix power issues at all.
*all 3rd party power management apps including Samsung's Device Manager (disabled) cause more problems than they solve and many times cause excessive power consumption as well. All my app buckets show as active in Developer Options.
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i bet, but some have said it is not sleeping cores that may be the same as os sleeping. and why wait a min when you can have an app do it when you tap it. i just want to test if forcing the os/phone into sleep will make a difference and they got apps that can turn off screen and force sleep i just can not find them. i found one in 2015 and lost it forever

blackhawk said:
Oh. Why didn't you say so?
Don't think Double Tap* works on 10....
but the Samsung Good Lock family app One Handed Operation Plus does
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lus&pcampaignid=APPU_1_dXJXX46SK8nEswXYmoWwDQ
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sl...tion-good-lock-app-from-samsung-11569355/amp/
This app is why you bought a curved screen Note....
*Double Tap may work on 10; it has a 2x tap on home button off option. No ads, no data usage, very low resource/battery usage. This is one of three screen off/no button options I have enabled.
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I did install One Hand Operation +, but for the life of me, I can’t see how to configure it to turn screen off with 2x tap on home button

gloege said:
i heard that the note 20 ultra may not be sleeping cores when screen is off and idle
also i have seen apps that can shut the screen off while forcing sleep at the same time
do not know what to type to find it as i want to test it on my note 20 ultra. anyone know of such apps list them below...
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I use Nap Time by Francisco Franco the kernel developer for rooted devices from a couple years ago. It will put the phone into a deep doze, which android already has. You will need to do a couple adb commands to get it working on non rooted phones, it's one of the first apps I install on a new phone. The phone can sit 10 hours over night and drop between 3-5%, you can have it turn bluetooth, wifi and data off while in a doze. Here's what Franco says about his app.
This is the real battery saver. No placebo and dumb marketing shenanigans!
Naptime lowers your device's power consumption while the display is off by empowering Android's built-in doze power saving functionality. Faster idle means less power being consumed unecessarily. By default doze can take a while to kick in so Naptime just speeds-up that process automagically for you.
It can also automatically disable W-iFi, mobile data, location & bluetooth as soon as doze kicks in.
Experimental features such as automatic Android Battery Saver, Aggressive Doze timings, Aggressive Doze scheduling times and location detection.
Now you have profiles so you can load them up on demand based on your usage and accessible from Quick Tiles.
Most features work if you're not rooted, but to have the full experience you'll have to root your device.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.doze&hl=en

g0tch said:
I did install One Hand Operation +, but for the life of me, I can’t see how to configure it to turn screen off with 2x tap on home button
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You can't double tap with that one; set one or more of the slides to turn off the screen. I use that as to kill the screen, navigate and more.
Double Tap is the one that does just that.

blackhawk said:
You can't double tap with that one; set one or more of the slides to turn off the screen. I use that as to kill the screen, navigate and more.
Double Tap is the one that does just that.
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Many thanks, but I cannot find that setting at all. is my 80 year old brain letting me down, I wonder

g0tch said:
I did install One Hand Operation +, but for the life of me, I can’t see how to configure it to turn screen off with 2x tap on home button
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g0tch said:
Many thanks, but I cannot find that setting at all. is my 80 year old brain letting me down, I wonder
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You need to install the app, Double Tap first*
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...apk&pcampaignid=APPU_1_GzNZX_bWNsWosgXA3bmQAw
Give it required permissions/access. A clean app; zero data usage, no ads.
*Sorry if I mislead you. I have a lot of customization apps on this Android; most are Samsung but a few like this one aren't.

blackhawk said:
You need to install the app, Double Tap first*
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...apk&pcampaignid=APPU_1_GzNZX_bWNsWosgXA3bmQAw
Give it required permissions/access. A clean app; zero data usage, no ads.
*Sorry if I mislead you. I have a lot of customization apps on this Android; most are Samsung but a few like this one aren't.
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does it put the phone in deep sleep or do i have to use them in tandem

gloege said:
does it put the phone in deep sleep or do i have to use them in tandem
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It turns off the screen. There's always system apks running in the background unless you power off the phone. You can limit what runs to some extent.
If your getting around 1% per hour battery drain when the screen is off I call it done.

Question Always on display battery drain

Hi, haven't had a Pixel for a long time (last one was a 4 XL) so pardon my Aly question
Brand new Pixel 7 Pro, charged at 100% and went to bed with AOD on, woke up after 7h with 92% battery: is this normal?
PS: I'm used to Xiaomi 13 Pro with AOD off using almost 0% overnight.
Thx

I'd be very surprised if a phone really consumed 0% over 7 hours, WITH AOD on. Infinite battery life?
That said, sounds about normal, especially until the system sets.

I believe Xiaomi is sort of cheating with batt %, since in the morning stays at 100% even after 15 mins of usage
By the way, I disabled AOD and will test tonight.
Happy to be back to a Pixel though

Also note that if you put it face down on a flat surface it will activate DND, and do try the bedtime mode since it reduces battery consumption.

How do you enable bedtime mode?

Look in settings, it's under Digital Wellbeing

Thx

Battery will adjust with use, it consumes quite a bit more than normal the first few days.

Once it adjusted, for me it went down to 0.6-0.7%/hr. That was before I started installing apps though!

What about charging speed?
Is there a switch to turn on/off adaptive charging to have quicker charging during the day?

Nope, you have to settle for it. For me, it's fast enough to be honest...

The Xioami.waa charging at 120W 0 to 100 in 20 mins

thegios said:
The Xioami.waa charging at 120W 0 to 100 in 20 mins
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Great for long term battery life.

Xiaomi gives me a new phone for free every quarter, who cares

thegios said:
I believe Xiaomi is sort of cheating with batt %, since in the morning stays at 100% even after 15 mins of usage
By the way, I disabled AOD and will test tonight.
Happy to be back to a Pixel though
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It's not cheating really. Just their charging "design". If you keep a Xiaomi phone on a charger even after it charges 100%, it actually charges a bit more than 100% you just can't see it. So, from 100% to 99% is like not actually 1% of battery capacity but like 3-4-5%.

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Also note that if you put it face down on a flat surface it will activate DND, and do try the bedtime mode since it reduces battery consumption.
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I noticed that, when on charge, if I simply turn on Do Not Disturb, the adaptive charging notification appears, but if I turn on bedtime mode, the adaptive charging notification disappears.

thegios said:
I noticed that, when on charge, if I simply turn on Do Not Disturb, the adaptive charging notification appears, but if I turn on bedtime mode, the adaptive charging notification disappears.
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Disable global power management; it never did work right. Find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
If you find the source(s) of the excessive drain and correct them, the excess battery usage disappears immediately. Close apps before you put the device in sleep mode.
Developer options > standby apps, if all buckets show as active global power management is disable. If various bucket states exist and/or those states can be altered, it is active. It can't be disable here; power management settings. Altering background battery usage in the individual app settings doesn't invoke global power management...

blackhawk said:
Disable global power management; it never did work right. Find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
If you find the source(s) of the excessive drain and correct them, the excess battery usage disappears immediately. Close apps before you put the device in sleep mode.
Developer options > standby apps, if all buckets show as active global power management is disable. If various bucket states exist and/or those states can be altered, it is active. It can't be disable here; power management settings. Altering background battery usage in the individual app settings doesn't invoke global power management...
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I have not understood a word of your reasoning... Apologies...