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Battery Saving tips? Help!?

I have the droid ultra and was wondering how I could get some extra juice out of my phone? Any help would be appreciated!
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1. Turn off Battery Saver under Settings/Battery. This is false hope and more of a placebo. It usually kicks on when you are already really low on battery and it usually just down clocks your CPU and can make your phone sluggish.
2. Turn off Automatic Brightness under Settings/Display/Brightness. When the sensor on your phone reads the light around you, it likes to shift the brightness on your phone from really high to really low. This effects your battery. Turn that option off and leave your phone on half to 1/4 max brightness. 1/2 is usually just fine. You will get used to this brightness.
3. Turn off Location Access. This is probably one the biggest battery wasters out there and you don't need it running all the time. It is located under Settings/Location Access. Turn off or uncheck everything here. If a program needs or wants it on, it will request it when you are using that app. Most of the time it is usually for Google Maps. As you can tell, this also turns off GPS.
4. Let your phone sleep, but not too soon/long! Under Settings/Display click on sleep and change it to 1 or 2 minutes(preferred). Nothing shorter, nothing longer. Nothing longer because if you forget to turn off your screen, you don't want it sitting there for 5
minutes wasting away. Nothing shorter because turning it back on after 15 seconds because you were thinking will only cause the screen to demand more power to get it restarted, thus draining battery.
5. Facebook = Battery Killer. I get it, you love Facebook. That is ok, but your battery doesn't. There is hope though! Open the Facebook app and slide your finger from the left side of the screen to the right side of the screen. Now go all the way down to "App
Settings" and make these changes. #1 Refresh Interval = Never: This will prevent it from waking up your phone/battery and refreshing automatically when the phone is off. When you launch the app, it does this for you, so why have it do it when you are
working/sleeping? Plus you can always manually do this by pulling down on your News Feed. #2 Turn off Messenger location services. You don't really need this on. it likes to activate your GPS(battery hog) and let people know which city you sent that post/message from. Unless you care that people know you are in Butt****, Ohio, you should have this off.
6. Streaming Music kills battery. Do you have 80gb of songs at home on your computer? Then why do you stream Pandora all day? You having unlimited data is not a good excuse. If you can, put all those songs on your SD card/phone and listen to them using Google Play Music app. Buy a bigger SD card if you have to, they are not that expensive. Or just ask Santa.
7. Turn off vibrate on touch/haptic feedback. Usually located under Settings/Sound. That little motor that tickles your finger tips when you touch the screen actually uses a good amount of power. If you are really looking to get the most out of your battery, turn this off. I leave it on because I could always go for a finger tip tickle.
You don't have to use all of those, you can pick and choose if you like. I do. I hope it helps you out. Let me know.
Fun Fact: The takes more power to show the color blue on your screen than any other color.

SupremeOverlord said:
3. Turn off Location Access. This is probably one the biggest battery wasters out there and you don't need it running all the time. It is located under Settings/Location Access. Turn off or uncheck everything here. If a program needs or wants it on, it will request it when you are using that app. Most of the time it is usually for Google Maps. As you can tell, this also turns off GPS.
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Yeah, well, you need location services for Google Maps. It's nothing something discrete for just one application. (Meaning, if you turn off location services globally, it turns it off for everything. If you turn it on, you can go into individual apps and see if you can turn off location.) However, you can go into Google Now, menu on the bottom right, settings, Privacy & accounts, Google location settings, and turn off location reporting and location history - unless you really want that in Google Now.
6. Streaming Music kills battery. Do you have 80gb of songs at home on your computer? Then why do you stream Pandora all day? You having unlimited data is not a good excuse. If you can, put all those songs on your SD card/phone and listen to them using Google Play Music app. Buy a bigger SD card if you have to, they are not that expensive. Or just ask Santa.
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There is no SD card slot in the Droids.

SupremeOverlord said:
1. Turn off Battery Saver under Settings/Battery. This is false hope and more of a placebo. It usually kicks on when you are already really low on battery and it usually just down clocks your CPU and can make your phone sluggish.
2. Turn off Automatic Brightness under Settings/Display/Brightness. When the sensor on your phone reads the light around you, it likes to shift the brightness on your phone from really high to really low. This effects your battery. Turn that option off and leave your phone on half to 1/4 max brightness. 1/2 is usually just fine. You will get used to this brightness.
3. Turn off Location Access. This is probably one the biggest battery wasters out there and you don't need it running all the time. It is located under Settings/Location Access. Turn off or uncheck everything here. If a program needs or wants it on, it will request it when you are using that app. Most of the time it is usually for Google Maps. As you can tell, this also turns off GPS.
4. Let your phone sleep, but not too soon/long! Under Settings/Display click on sleep and change it to 1 or 2 minutes(preferred). Nothing shorter, nothing longer. Nothing longer because if you forget to turn off your screen, you don't want it sitting there for 5
minutes wasting away. Nothing shorter because turning it back on after 15 seconds because you were thinking will only cause the screen to demand more power to get it restarted, thus draining battery.
5. Facebook = Battery Killer. I get it, you love Facebook. That is ok, but your battery doesn't. There is hope though! Open the Facebook app and slide your finger from the left side of the screen to the right side of the screen. Now go all the way down to "App
Settings" and make these changes. #1 Refresh Interval = Never: This will prevent it from waking up your phone/battery and refreshing automatically when the phone is off. When you launch the app, it does this for you, so why have it do it when you are
working/sleeping? Plus you can always manually do this by pulling down on your News Feed. #2 Turn off Messenger location services. You don't really need this on. it likes to activate your GPS(battery hog) and let people know which city you sent that post/message from. Unless you care that people know you are in Butt****, Ohio, you should have this off.
6. Streaming Music kills battery. Do you have 80gb of songs at home on your computer? Then why do you stream Pandora all day? You having unlimited data is not a good excuse. If you can, put all those songs on your SD card/phone and listen to them using Google Play Music app. Buy a bigger SD card if you have to, they are not that expensive. Or just ask Santa.
7. Turn off vibrate on touch/haptic feedback. Usually located under Settings/Sound. That little motor that tickles your finger tips when you touch the screen actually uses a good amount of power. If you are really looking to get the most out of your battery, turn this off. I leave it on because I could always go for a finger tip tickle.
You don't have to use all of those, you can pick and choose if you like. I do. I hope it helps you out. Let me know.
Fun Fact: The takes more power to show the color blue on your screen than any other color.
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1 - Agreed.
2 - This is mostly preference and will not that huge of effect on your battery. Having the display on the brightest setting will always drain more than the lowest setting, but the auto-brightness changing does not hurt the battery, it's when it sets the brightness high that it does. I have auto-brightness set and I'm doing pretty good.
3 - Location services are only accessed and turned on when requested. For example, when you open maps, or have geotagging enabled on the camera. Just leaving it enabled in general will not be that big a deal.
4 - Mostly preference, but setting it too long can have more detrimental effects than just battery usage. For example: forgetting to lock the phone and shoving it in your pocket while the display is still on can result in apps opening or calls being made.
5 - While you're at it, just quit facebook altogether But seriously, the more "social" apps you have running, the more you have apps waking up the phone and hitting data in the background. Instant messaging can cause battery drain as well. As for me and facebook, I do not have an account at all, so I don't use it, and can't really say if it really is a drain on its own.
6 - Agreed. Either put music on your phone or use the caching available in various services like Spotify. I'm a Spotify premium subscriber and it's totally worth it.
7 - This will have a negligible impact on your battery.
I'll add this: If you're into figuring out what's causing battery drain, install an app that monitors wakelocks. I use Wakelock Detector. Wakelocks are going to be your idle time battery killers and apps that abuse them will cause excessive drain. I'm sitting at 8% awake right now and my battery easily lasts the entire day with around half battery remaining on my Mini. You can find apps to blame for battery drain with an app like this easier than an app that just monitors battery usage.

bc760 said:
Trade it for the Maxx!!
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Only if I had the money
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SupremeOverlord said:
1. Turn off Battery Saver under Settings/Battery. This is false hope and more of a placebo. It usually kicks on when you are already really low on battery and it usually just down clocks your CPU and can make your phone sluggish.
2. Turn off Automatic Brightness under Settings/Display/Brightness. When the sensor on your phone reads the light around you, it likes to shift the brightness on your phone from really high to really low. This effects your battery. Turn that option off and leave your phone on half to 1/4 max brightness. 1/2 is usually just fine. You will get used to this brightness.
3. Turn off Location Access. This is probably one the biggest battery wasters out there and you don't need it running all the time. It is located under Settings/Location Access. Turn off or uncheck everything here. If a program needs or wants it on, it will request it when you are using that app. Most of the time it is usually for Google Maps. As you can tell, this also turns off GPS.
4. Let your phone sleep, but not too soon/long! Under Settings/Display click on sleep and change it to 1 or 2 minutes(preferred). Nothing shorter, nothing longer. Nothing longer because if you forget to turn off your screen, you don't want it sitting there for 5
minutes wasting away. Nothing shorter because turning it back on after 15 seconds because you were thinking will only cause the screen to demand more power to get it restarted, thus draining battery.
5. Facebook = Battery Killer. I get it, you love Facebook. That is ok, but your battery doesn't. There is hope though! Open the Facebook app and slide your finger from the left side of the screen to the right side of the screen. Now go all the way down to "App
Settings" and make these changes. #1 Refresh Interval = Never: This will prevent it from waking up your phone/battery and refreshing automatically when the phone is off. When you launch the app, it does this for you, so why have it do it when you are
working/sleeping? Plus you can always manually do this by pulling down on your News Feed. #2 Turn off Messenger location services. You don't really need this on. it likes to activate your GPS(battery hog) and let people know which city you sent that post/message from. Unless you care that people know you are in Butt****, Ohio, you should have this off.
6. Streaming Music kills battery. Do you have 80gb of songs at home on your computer? Then why do you stream Pandora all day? You having unlimited data is not a good excuse. If you can, put all those songs on your SD card/phone and listen to them using Google Play Music app. Buy a bigger SD card if you have to, they are not that expensive. Or just ask Santa.
7. Turn off vibrate on touch/haptic feedback. Usually located under Settings/Sound. That little motor that tickles your finger tips when you touch the screen actually uses a good amount of power. If you are really looking to get the most out of your battery, turn this off. I leave it on because I could always go for a finger tip tickle.
You don't have to use all of those, you can pick and choose if you like. I do. I hope it helps you out. Let me know.
Fun Fact: The takes more power to show the color blue on your screen than any other color.
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I appreciate everything. I deleted Facebook like a month ago because I saw the stats. I did not know about the screen timeout though thanks man:thumbup:
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[Q] Ways to use torch with minimal battery use

So this is a 3 part question on Torches
1) Is there any way to operate torch when your phone is off, basically to be able to use your torch while your phone is off, so that your torch is the only thing utilising battery and not the system, this for incase of emergency. If it is not possible to use the torch when your phone is off, can we use it when the phone is in deep sleep? basically my target it to use the phone as a torch while using the most minimal amount of battery.
2) On Xposed there is an app by wanam - Xposed torch, it allows you to use the torch without turning on the screen, now is this particular app waking the device from sleep or not?
3) For worst cases scenarios can we flash a system which only allows the torch to run via the buttons and nothing else, like this can be used via multirom and save battery

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So this is a 3 part question on Torches
1) Is there any way to operate torch when your phone is off, basically to be able to use your torch while your phone is off, so that your torch is the only thing utilising battery and not the system, this for incase of emergency. If it is not possible to use the torch when your phone is off, can we use it when the phone is in deep sleep? basically my target it to use the phone as a torch while using the most minimal amount of battery.
2) On Xposed there is an app by wanam - Xposed torch, it allows you to use the torch without turning on the screen, now is this particular app waking the device from sleep or not?
3) For worst cases scenarios can we flash a system which only allows the torch to run via the buttons and nothing else, like this can be used via multirom and save battery
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Do you need it to use the camera flash? In other words, does it need to be as bright as possible or will any light do? Best bet is to just use the LCD backlight with an all white screen. You could leave the screen on in this way for over 20 hours.

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Do you need it to use the camera flash? In other words, does it need to be as bright as possible or will any light do? Best bet is to just use the LCD backlight with an all white screen. You could leave the screen on in this way for over 20 hours.
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There's no way you're going to get 20 hours of screen on with an all white display
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bblzd said:
Do you need it to use the camera flash? In other words, does it need to be as bright as possible or will any light do? Best bet is to just use the LCD backlight with an all white screen. You could leave the screen on in this way for over 20 hours.
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lol, wont even be close to 20 hours.
and op, in order for you to use the led for a flashlight, even with the screen off, it will never go into deep sleep. it will be awake the whole time. in order for the device to run an app, a system or user app, you need the device awake. it will only go into deep sleep when nothing is active.

simms22 said:
lol, wont even be close to 20 hours.
and op, in order for you to use the led for a flashlight, even with the screen off, it will never go into deep sleep. it will be awake the whole time. in order for the device to run an app, a system or user app, you need the device awake. it will only go into deep sleep when nothing is active.
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I've seen it twice now, though I'm unable to find the links. One fellow on Reddit and another here on these forums. Both were well on their way to over 20 hours Screen on Time with little to no usage. Seeing as I've gotten over 8 myself with actual (albeit light) usage, it wasn't very shocking to see.
The screen with zero interaction uses very little battery due to Panel Self Refresh.

bblzd said:
I've seen it twice now, though I'm unable to find the links. One fellow on Reddit and another here on these forums. Both were well on their way to over 20 hours Screen on Time with little to no usage. Seeing as I've gotten over 8 myself with actual (albeit light) usage, it wasn't very shocking to see.
The screen with zero interaction uses very little battery due to Panel Self Refresh.
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i still dont believe it. to get 20 hours, you would have to do more to your system than just turn on the screen. there are mods that reduce the brightness of the screen even lower than it normally goes, even to a point where its on, but you cant really tell that it is, its so dim. using that, maybe you can see 20 hours.

Double tap to wake (no root required)

I finally found an app that allows double tap to wake without root! Now you can keep your power and home buttons from getting all gunked up. See the attachment for the APK. According to the website below, this used to be available in the Play Store. I guess it was removed because Google doesn't like to allow apps to wake the screen?
http://www.gammerson.com/2015/06/how-to-enable-double-tap-wake-up-in-android-device.html
Edit: Warning - app seems to use a lot of battery when screen is off

Thanks, but curious if this will be a battery drainer with wakelocks ?

Zorachus said:
Thanks, but curious if this will be a battery drainer with wakelocks ?
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I'm not sure how much it affects battery since I just found the app today. I noticed in the battery stats that the screen on time continues to increase even though the screen is off.

The app keeps the screen on so that will increase battery drainage.

Why don't you give Gravity Screen a try ?
It's one of the reasons to own an Android....

This WILL drain your battery. Guaranteed.

pieces of cake said:
This WILL drain your battery. Guaranteed.
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Why does it drain the battery? The screen appears to be completely off. I looked at the screen with a flashlight and couldn't see any pixels on. Is it preventing the phone from entering a low CPU use sleep state?

cmart0125 said:
The app keeps the screen on so that will increase battery drainage.
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bryanhayn said:
Why does it drain the battery? The screen appears to be completely off.
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If it's keeping the screen on, but only displaying "total blackness", then any AMOLED display (such as on our Note 5 devices) will APPEAR to be completely off (as none of the pixels are illuminated) even if the display is still "alive." If the screen is alive, then the device isn't going into suspend (sleep), so it would destroy idle battery life. Instead of only dropping 1% (or less) of battery charge an hour, you'd start dropping 7-10% an hour.

re: double tap
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This WILL drain your battery. Guaranteed.
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The reason it uses a lot of battery is because it uses the proximity sensor
and it keeps it enabled all the time.
Same holds true for any of the double tap screen-on apps at the playstore.
Good luck,
Have a great day!

Unfortunate that you can't set a duration for it to remain active after the screen has gone off (e.g. 10 seconds, to use when the screen unintentionally turns off) so that it doesn't continue to drain battery. Anyone know of a non-root way to disable it after a given duration or another app that can perform this function?

ElQuixote said:
Unfortunate that you can't set a duration for it to remain active after the screen has gone off (e.g. 10 seconds, to use when the screen unintentionally turns off) so that it doesn't continue to drain battery. Anyone know of a non-root way to disable it after a given duration or another app that can perform this function?
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use knockon app from jawomo who brought you floatify headsup notifications.
or use knockr from playstore from angs apps.

Can someone give me the information about the app?
Is this app make battery draining?
Is battery usage of this app is big?

adityakumara said:
Can someone give me the information about the app?
Is this app make battery draining?
Is battery usage of this app is big?
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Read the previous page and all your questions will be answered :good:

ravijani said:
use knockon app from jawomo who brought you floatify headsup notifications.
or use knockr from playstore from angs apps.
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Knockon Jawomo is great , why not LCD though?.. I want a double tap to wake simple one no adds! Must be a decent tap to wake out there for LCD

A couple strange things

Given the less friendly finger print reading I have taken to double tapping on the screen to turn it on. But relatively often it does not respond to a double tap. Is anyone else experiencing that?
The other one is that at many web sites I go to a pop up message box will come up asking if they can read my device's location. The answer box NEVER responds to a click. The screen will be dim. I have to back up 1 screen which closes the query box. I actually expect that one of my apps that have privileges to over write other apps is the culprit, but I don't see why they would mess with that one function, especially when at that moment those apps aren't being brought up. Any thoughts on this?

Increase screen sensitivity if you haven't already.

Yes I've experienced the double tapping unresponsiveness and decided to have AOD on all the time instead despite additional battery drain just to bypass this issue.

boogiecornejo said:
Yes I've experienced the double tapping unresponsiveness and decided to have AOD on all the time instead despite additional battery drain just to bypass this issue.
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That's what I do on the 10+
Battery drain is slightly less than 1% @ hour.
For me it runs best/most efficiently with no power management* running other than the system power setting to optimized.
*some apks are package blocked otherwise all buckets show as active in Developer Options. If this is not the case unwanted power management is active.
I'm running Pie; not sure how Q will respond. I found it's best to let Android handle power management exclusively other than blocking serial power hogs like Google Backup Transport and Framework Services Framework. I don't use these.

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Increase screen sensitivity if you haven't already.
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Thanks for the suggestion. It is already active.
Here's another interesting thing: every now and then (actually several times during the course of a day) after turning the screen on the bio didn't with nor the location, and it forces me to enter the pin to get into the phone. I even have it set to not lock if hooked to my hearing aids and it still happens.

ewingr said:
Thanks for the suggestion. It is already active.
Here's another interesting thing: every now and then (actually several times during the course of a day) after turning the screen on the bio didn't with nor the location, and it forces me to enter the pin to get into the phone. I even have it set to not lock if hooked to my hearing aids and it still happens.
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I keep my phone with me at all times, don't let others use it and never lock it. Makes life easier.
It's a steep learning curve with these devices... make sure it has the permissions it needs like being able to change system settings.

blackhawk said:
That's what I do on the 10+
Battery drain is slightly less than 1% @ hour.
For me it runs best/most efficiently with no power management* running other than the system power setting to optimized.
*some apks are package blocked otherwise all buckets show as active in Developer Options. If this is not the case unwanted power management is active.
I'm running Pie; not sure how Q will respond. I found it's best to let Android handle power management exclusively other than blocking serial power hogs like Google Backup Transport and Framework Services Framework. I don't use these.
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Hmmm... The setting to read it loud is a system setting itself (in Accessibility settings). I don't think there are any permissions to make. I did just look and nothing is apparent.

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Thanks for the suggestion. It is already active.
Here's another interesting thing: every now and then (actually several times during the course of a day) after turning the screen on the bio didn't with nor the location, and it forces me to enter the pin to get into the phone. I even have it set to not lock if hooked to my hearing aids and it still happens.
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Hmmm... The setting to read it loud is a system setting itself (in Accessibility settings). I don't think there are any permissions to make. I did just look and nothing is apparent.
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Permission to change system settings is in it's own listing apart from permissions in each app settings.
Could be more than one apk needed to make all work right.
Make sure power management not doing it.
In Developer Options>Standby Apps, all apps listed there should show as having their buckets as "active" if they not, power management is active.
You don't want that.

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I actually expect that one of my apps that have privileges to over write other apps is the culprit
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one of the apps is interfering as you correctly suspect

Question Did anyone notice the huge standby battery drain? Any way to measure what causes it?

First off, I love the phone and I'll keep it, but ever since I got the phone I've been wondering why it's draining so much in standby. It's my first Samsung phone since 2011, so naturally I assume it's Samsung apps/services that drain? Especially since I don't use any new apps than on my other phones and in the battery stats it doesn't really show any user apps that use a lot.
Anyone has way to measure what system/user apps drain during standby? Or even better, any dev that could do a deeper dive into this?
For example, I just lost 32% battery while sleeping for about 8h, it has never been this much on any other of my previous phones (OnePlus Nord/Pixel 3a/Pixel 3/Pixel 2).
In fact, my OnePlus Nord with 815mAh more than the Flip3 is currently on last charge 3 days ago (it doesn't show me hours anymore) and 2h35m SOT and 25% battery left. On the Flip I just now got 17h with 1h30m SOT and 5% left. Settings all similar besides location accuracy turned off for the Flip as that was a massive drain.
Something must be unintentionally draining the battery during standby and I really hope one of you smart guys can find it. Or Samsung fixes it with an update..

I disabled AOD and any unnecessary account sync processes. It's only drained about 2% in standby the last 5 hours, but there are still some things to finish configuring.

twistedumbrella said:
I disabled AOD and any unnecessary account sync processes. It's only drained about 2% in standby the last 5 hours, but there are still some things to finish configuring.
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If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone

M4-NOOB said:
If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone
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How old is your device? You got to give it some time to settle. I had 15% battery drain the first night, after that it went down to 5%.

M4-NOOB said:
If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone
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The first step in improving the battery is to remember that this isn't any other phone. You may want to explore what options are available and what all you have enabled. By default, almost everything is on to show off all the cool new features that make this a Flip 3, not a OnePlus Nord.

ione2380 said:
How old is your device? You got to give it some time to settle. I had 15% battery drain the first night, after that it went down to 5%.
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Got it 4 days ago

twistedumbrella said:
The first step in improving the battery is to remember that this isn't any other phone. You may want to explore what options are available and what all you have enabled. By default, almost everything is on to show off all the cool new features that make this a Flip 3, not a OnePlus Nord.
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Which Flip features are in use during standby though? During standby it's just another phone

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Which Flip features are in use during standby though? During standby it's just another phone
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Not true. Samsung has a bunch of features still in use.
Settings -> Advanced features -> Motions and gestures has a whole collection of things that are still running when the screen is off (and most aren't useful to the Flip, but came from "another phone").
Settings -> Cover screen allows you to disable turning on the screen when notifications arrive, if that is not something you need.
Also, unless you are using the app to lower the refresh rate, you may be running a bit high when idle.

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Settings -> Advanced features -> Motions and gestures has a whole collection of things that are still running when the screen is off (and most aren't useful to the Flip, but came from "another phone").
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I've turned a few things off there, but a lot of them OnePlus has too + a few more, which I had all enabled
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Settings -> Cover screen allows you to disable turning on the screen when notifications arrive, if that is not something you need.
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I didn't really get any notification during last night, so I doubt this was the culprit
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Also, unless you are using the app to lower the refresh rate, you may be running a bit high when idle.
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Yes I'm using that app and have it set to 48-96Hz
Appreciate the help, I believe there must be something that's unintentionally draining and while I went through every single setting in the beginning, I'm still very new to OneUI (and also impressed how far it came from the TouchWiz ****show)

One thing I always forget is that a lot of those features are running services and polling when they're enabled. Even though I'm not touching the screen with the tap to wake enabled, it's constantly waiting for that tap when it's asleep. Any one isn't a big impact, but Samsung has so many "convenience" features that I end up wasting battery to never use.
The calibration period is also horrible. Android 11 is slow to calibrate the battery and Samsung is worse. You can get a good idea of what is draining battery by going to Settings -> Battery and device care -> Battery. That may help find out if it's a renegade app.
One thing Asus does that I wish Samsung would embrace is Auto-start management. Some apps aren't efficient at polling for notifications and more than once have been the cause of major drain.
Another one even Samsung admits to be a source of drain is the edge panels. If you don't use them, it's best to kill the entire feature.

twistedumbrella said:
Even though I'm not touching the screen with the tap to wake enabled, it's constantly waiting for that tap when it's asleep. Any one isn't a big impact, but Samsung has so many "convenience" features that I end up wasting battery to never use.
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I just assumed it's not a big impact as OnePlus has those as well, for example draw a "V" on screen for flashlight or ">" to skip song besides the regular double tap to wake and it never appeared to be a battery issue for me before.
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You can get a good idea of what is draining battery by going to Settings -> Battery and device care -> Battery. That may help find out if it's a renegade app.
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Do I assume correctly that some system apps or similar are hidden there? I just did the calculations and the percentages only make up 43.6%. I attached a screenshot

M4-NOOB said:
I just assumed it's not a big impact as OnePlus has those as well, for example draw a "V" on screen for flashlight or ">" to skip song besides the regular double tap to wake and it never appeared to be a battery issue for me before.
Do I assume correctly that some system apps or similar are hidden there? I just did the calculations and the percentages only make up 43.6%. I attached a screenshot
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OnePlus also optimizes them better than brand new Samsung firmware. I had a lot of stuff enabled on the Note 20 Ultra that I won't be using for a month or two now.
Some apps are excluded, but it will let you know if it's something not included with the phone.
Another good idea is to uninstall, disable, or "adb uninstall" any bloat you don't use. Besides clearing up space in the app drawer, it kills off services you don't use. A lot of the apps will run services even before you sign in, even though they aren't actually handling any data.

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Another good idea is to uninstall, disable, or "adb uninstall" any bloat you don't use. Besides clearing up space in the app drawer, it kills off services you don't use. A lot of the apps will run services even before you sign in, even though they aren't actually handling any data.
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I already went through the list and uninstalled which I 100% knew what it was and that it's not needed, but not sure about 99% of Samsung stuff. Some Samsung apps on the phone I don't even know what they are and when I start them it just prompts to agree to some terms before starting the app... I'll have a look around for a Samsung debloat list

M4-NOOB said:
I already went through the list and uninstalled which I 100% knew what it was and that it's not needed, but not sure about 99% of Samsung stuff. Some Samsung apps on the phone I don't even know what they are and when I start them it just prompts to agree to some terms before starting the app... I'll have a look around for a Samsung debloat list
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If you have the unlocked version, they allowed uninstall for a lot of apps that were previously locked. A lot can also be downloaded later from Google Play or the Galaxy Store if you change your mind.
I use Firefox, so I uninstall Samsung Internet and Chrome. Members and Health are two big ones that like to run those "please enable us" services. It's a lot of deciding what you might use versus what you can live without.
Another good idea is to add anything you won't use, but didn't remove to deep sleeping apps to kill it's ability to run in the background. It's the closest thing to auto start management without rooting.
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Another good idea is to add anything you won't use, but didn't remove to deep sleeping apps to kill it's ability to run in the background. It's the closest thing to auto start management without rooting.
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Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow

M4-NOOB said:
Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow
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Thank you for taking the time, mine is also going down %30 overnight. would love to hear about your result.

ShayMagen said:
Thank you for taking the time, mine is also going down %30 overnight. would love to hear about your result.
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So far I don't have much hope sadly. Whole day currently at home and not using the phone much and it's looking like in the screenshot (screen off, loosing almost 2.7% per hour, as comparison my OnePlus is at 0.9% per hour)
https://imgur.com/RLITZwQ
It's 21:21 at the moment and I'm at 54% after 9h 42m (comparison OnePlus with 815mAh more: 7% after 79h with 2h54m SOT)
https://imgur.com/M9zO2hV
I'll probably head to bed in a few hours and then report back tomorrow morning how much I lost during the night..

I'm not claiming to have amazing battery life, since I almost considered keeping my trade-in and returning this one over it. I am interested why it is so bad for others, though.

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I'm not claiming to have amazing battery life, since I almost considered keeping my trade-in and returning this one over it. I am interested why it is so bad for others, though.
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HOLY **** I would love to have this battery life. I'm literally not doing anything with the phone and just loosing so much. I'm pretty much the opposite of a power user, so my phone is in standby most of the time and loosing so much is pretty frustrating.
EDIT: I might have an idea why it's so bad for me, I don't really have reception in my apartment (as you can see on my screenshots), so I assume it's constantly trying to get better receptions, I see 2 bars sometimes, but most of the time 0. I'll keep my phone at the window where I have reception for the rest of the day and see if it makes a difference. (Although the OnePlus has also bad reception, but does have a different carriers SIM card)

M4-NOOB said:
Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow
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Dependencies, dependencies, dependencies... some of those apks just sit there unless needed.
Do not disable apks/services unless you know what they do and what, if any, their dependencies are. Go too far and you'll end up in a boot loop.
What works for others probably isn't ideal for you.
Package Disabler is a better option as you easily toggle apks on/off as needed.
Screen off the serial offenders tend to be Google backup Transport, Framework and any cloud apps.
Try disabling Google play Services at night and see if that helps. You may need to disable Find my Device first as System Administrator if disable is greyed out.
Disabling play services also kills Gmaps and Playstore which are know hogs. Gmail as well to a lesser extent.
Google Firebase, do you need it? If not disable.
Carrier, Google, Samsung and app feedback, disable.
Using power management can cause erratic behavior and not solve the problem. Treat each power hog on a case by case basis instead. It takes a lot longer but yields a cleaner, more stable setup.
Play with it, go through -all- the settings. It's actually quit fun to explore and almost impossible to crash and burn.
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