[Q] Ways to use torch with minimal battery use - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So this is a 3 part question on Torches
1) Is there any way to operate torch when your phone is off, basically to be able to use your torch while your phone is off, so that your torch is the only thing utilising battery and not the system, this for incase of emergency. If it is not possible to use the torch when your phone is off, can we use it when the phone is in deep sleep? basically my target it to use the phone as a torch while using the most minimal amount of battery.
2) On Xposed there is an app by wanam - Xposed torch, it allows you to use the torch without turning on the screen, now is this particular app waking the device from sleep or not?
3) For worst cases scenarios can we flash a system which only allows the torch to run via the buttons and nothing else, like this can be used via multirom and save battery

firesword14 said:
So this is a 3 part question on Torches
1) Is there any way to operate torch when your phone is off, basically to be able to use your torch while your phone is off, so that your torch is the only thing utilising battery and not the system, this for incase of emergency. If it is not possible to use the torch when your phone is off, can we use it when the phone is in deep sleep? basically my target it to use the phone as a torch while using the most minimal amount of battery.
2) On Xposed there is an app by wanam - Xposed torch, it allows you to use the torch without turning on the screen, now is this particular app waking the device from sleep or not?
3) For worst cases scenarios can we flash a system which only allows the torch to run via the buttons and nothing else, like this can be used via multirom and save battery
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Do you need it to use the camera flash? In other words, does it need to be as bright as possible or will any light do? Best bet is to just use the LCD backlight with an all white screen. You could leave the screen on in this way for over 20 hours.

bblzd said:
Do you need it to use the camera flash? In other words, does it need to be as bright as possible or will any light do? Best bet is to just use the LCD backlight with an all white screen. You could leave the screen on in this way for over 20 hours.
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There's no way you're going to get 20 hours of screen on with an all white display
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bblzd said:
Do you need it to use the camera flash? In other words, does it need to be as bright as possible or will any light do? Best bet is to just use the LCD backlight with an all white screen. You could leave the screen on in this way for over 20 hours.
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lol, wont even be close to 20 hours.
and op, in order for you to use the led for a flashlight, even with the screen off, it will never go into deep sleep. it will be awake the whole time. in order for the device to run an app, a system or user app, you need the device awake. it will only go into deep sleep when nothing is active.

simms22 said:
lol, wont even be close to 20 hours.
and op, in order for you to use the led for a flashlight, even with the screen off, it will never go into deep sleep. it will be awake the whole time. in order for the device to run an app, a system or user app, you need the device awake. it will only go into deep sleep when nothing is active.
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I've seen it twice now, though I'm unable to find the links. One fellow on Reddit and another here on these forums. Both were well on their way to over 20 hours Screen on Time with little to no usage. Seeing as I've gotten over 8 myself with actual (albeit light) usage, it wasn't very shocking to see.
The screen with zero interaction uses very little battery due to Panel Self Refresh.

bblzd said:
I've seen it twice now, though I'm unable to find the links. One fellow on Reddit and another here on these forums. Both were well on their way to over 20 hours Screen on Time with little to no usage. Seeing as I've gotten over 8 myself with actual (albeit light) usage, it wasn't very shocking to see.
The screen with zero interaction uses very little battery due to Panel Self Refresh.
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i still dont believe it. to get 20 hours, you would have to do more to your system than just turn on the screen. there are mods that reduce the brightness of the screen even lower than it normally goes, even to a point where its on, but you cant really tell that it is, its so dim. using that, maybe you can see 20 hours.

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Request: Blinking Led when power on (but stand-by)??

Is there an apk for get blinking led when power on?
Anyway 1st of all: where do you know that your phone is still alive if it is stand-by???
Second: My wife just bought DHD and her 1st question is how do I know that this phone is still alive and kicking if it is stand-by mode?
And.... I think... blinking led f.e every 60 secs doesn't consume battery a lot??
Bump... Because I made a reguest before...
somebody did this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9039420
However... I am not using Winmo 6.5.3 anymore
PeeHoo,
Not exactly sure if this is what you have in mind, but my battery monitoring app, BattMonX, will keep the LED on (provided the phone's hardware supports it, of course ) while monitoring the battery charging state.
Its highly configurable and might fulfill your needs.
Give it a try...its free in the Market.
Cheers!
Thx... I tried it... but I'd like more a solution where I could choose that led blinks f.e once in a 30 secs or 60 secs when phone is stand-by and still alive... I cannot get this apk working like that...
And this might confuse me also (when led is always on) because sometimes if android crashes or freezes it could cause similar situation (that led stays on)...
PeeHoo said:
Thx... I tried it... but I'd like more a solution where I could choose that led blinks f.e once in a 30 secs or 60 secs when phone is stand-by and still alive... I cannot get this apk working like that...
And this might confuse me also (when led is always on) because sometimes if android crashes or freezes it could cause similar situation (that led stays on)...
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Yeah, it there does seem to be a little "wonkiness" (if you will) to the consistency of how the LEDs are supported throughout the Android world. Much of this inconsistency is due to hardware implementions, I'm sure (for example, the HTC phones are much different than the Motorola phones in the API's behavior and affect on the LEDs (not to mention what colors are supported)).
There's also the issue of what is actually happening in "stand-by" (I assume you mean when the phone's screen is off and presumably asleep). I've found that without using wake-locks, the user apps (services included (even ones monitoring for system intents)) are indeed quiesced within a few minutes of turning the screen off. This was why I added my "rainbow mode" feature in my app...it was purely to see how Android was affecting how responsive my app was after the screen is turned off. You can actually see Android slowing things down as time goes on after the screen is turned off. So, I think the only way you could get what you want would be to have an app that implements a wake-lock and keeps the CPU alive while the screen is off...a scenario that I don't think most folks would really like due to the potential impact on battery life (i.e., if the CPU is awake for your app, its awake for all apps (I believe)).
Cheers!

[Q] How do you make the battery life better on this

I have to charge my phone 2 or 3 times a day any recommendations on how to make my battery life longer that are simple and easy
Jawdude said:
I have to charge my phone 2 or 3 times a day any recommendations on how to make my battery life longer that are simple and easy
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I'm a truck driver and I'm a heavy user.
I did too before I made the changes below. These all work with the Stock Rom.
1. Installed No Lock (so that I don't have to swipe the screen to unlock, just push the power button)
2. Set screen to turn off in 30 seconds.
3. Installed Brightness Widget (allows changing the brightness from the home screen
4. Installed Screen Filter (lets me really darken my screen at night.
Try those and see how you do.
5. I then flashed the Infused Rom (I now get up to 10-14 hours)
Jawdude said:
I have to charge my phone 2 or 3 times a day any recommendations on how to make my battery life longer that are simple and easy
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Custom kernal and rom
Running refused and infusion 1.8 rom and I get 14 hours with heavy data use
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Also, Turn off GPS and Wifi when you're not using them.
Battery
After much experimenting and monitoring of battery use I find that the biggest drain is the screen display, so go to settings-->display-->brightness and lower the screen brightness as low as you comfortably can. Also when you you are not using the phone make sure the screen is off, I have trained myself to automatically hit the power button every time I put down the phone. If you listen to music through your phone make sure the settings on your music players allow the phone to play when the screen is off and turn the screen off while it plays.
GPS also drains the battery, so I keep it turned off when I don't use the Nav. When I use the Nav I know the battery will drain at a rapid pace, nothing you can do there, even if I have the phone plugged in to car power while using Nav it still drains the battery! Drains slower than unplugged navigating but still drains.
If your watching videos then your S.O.L. there's really nothing you can do that will increase battery life enough to make a difference during video playback.
I get 10-12 hours with regular use and stock rom. Worst was 8 hours best was 24.
Thanks for all the advice this has really helped my battery
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I'm a truck driver and I'm a heavy user.
3. Installed Brightness Widget (allows changing the brightness from the home screen
There was a recent post that showed a shortcut for changing the screen brightness from the homescreen without any additional software. First, turn off auto brightness. Second, tap and hold the menu bar at the top. Third, slide left to reduce the screen brightness and right to increase screen brightness.
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menzoom said:
After much experimenting and monitoring of battery use I find that the biggest drain is the screen display, so go to settings-->display-->brightness and lower the screen brightness as low as you comfortably can. Also when you you are not using the phone make sure the screen is off, I have trained myself to automatically hit the power button every time I put down the phone. If you listen to music through your phone make sure the settings on your music players allow the phone to play when the screen is off and turn the screen off while it plays.
GPS also drains the battery, so I keep it turned off when I don't use the Nav. When I use the Nav I know the battery will drain at a rapid pace, nothing you can do there, even if I have the phone plugged in to car power while using Nav it still drains the battery! Drains slower than unplugged navigating but still drains.
If your watching videos then your S.O.L. there's really nothing you can do that will increase battery life enough to make a difference during video playback.
I get 10-12 hours with regular use and stock rom. Worst was 8 hours best was 24.
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How does it drain your battery when its plugged into the car? I have never seen that on any cell phone. That my friend is messed up if true.
reissy said:
How does it drain your battery when its plugged into the car? I have never seen that on any cell phone. That my friend is messed up if true.
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It seems that Samsung ****ed up and included phone CPU/screen/etc usage when measuring battery charge current.
This means that the 600 mA stock battery charge current limit isn't just going to the battery, it's split between battery/screen/CPU. If screen/CPU/etc go above 600 mA (Navigation at full brightness seems to be the most common way), battery starts draining.
It also means that unless there's something I'm missing (which I could be since the MAX8998 datasheet is super-ultra-secret), our phone isn't going to be able to do proper charge termination - if the screen is on/CPU is running, it will cause a falsely high battery charge current reading, which will cause charging to fail to terminate.
Juice defender
I found that juice defender helped my battery and i just use the free version it's a great app
I used Iphone 3g 3gs 4. None of them drain battery like this one. First time use Android phone and getting a bit disappointed of this phone. It's draining 2% every 5 mins and im using stock Rom.
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Install a ROM. Infused v2 nearly doubled my screen-on battery life and tripled my screen-off battery life.
sweetboy02125 said:
I used Iphone 3g 3gs 4. None of them drain battery like this one. First time use Android phone and getting a bit disappointed of this phone. It's draining 2% every 5 mins and im using stock Rom.
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That's excessive... Rogue app maybe?
ptgptg said:
Truckerglenn said:
I'm a truck driver and I'm a heavy user.
3. Installed Brightness Widget (allows changing the brightness from the home screen
There was a recent post that showed a shortcut for changing the screen brightness from the homescreen without any additional software. First, turn off auto brightness. Second, tap and hold the menu bar at the top. Third, slide left to reduce the screen brightness and right to increase screen brightness.
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Thanks I never new that
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look in about phone battery use to identify the biggest battery user, it should be the screen. anything else and there is a problem.
the cell standby may go high on froyo rom, turning on flight mode and turning it off will correct that, it's an android bug.
on gingerbread the android os or android system may hog battery occasionally. some think it is the wifi sleep policy but it pops up on me without setting the sleep policy. the fix for that is to pull the battery for a couple minutes and put it back in and restart the phone.
next manage the screen brightness
install a custom rom, there are issues with certain firmware keeping sensors active wen they shouldn't be.
turn off unneeded sync options (i find that auto fetching my email uses a lot especially with my gmail already set to sync),
use wifi when you use the internet if possible, turn it off when out and about.
monitor cpu useage of apps that are cached in the task manager
kill apps that use cpu
if needed turn the max cpu clock down to 800mhz
set "use wireless networks" for location when possible for general location (limited to city level at times)
Dani897 said:
look in about phone battery use to identify the biggest battery user, it should be the screen. anything else and there is a problem.
the cell standby may go high on froyo rom, turning on flight mode and turning it off will correct that, it's an android bug.
on gingerbread the android os or android system may hog battery occasionally. some think it is the wifi sleep policy but it pops up on me without setting the sleep policy. the fix for that is to pull the battery for a couple minutes and put it back in and restart the phone.
next manage the screen brightness
install a custom rom, there are issues with certain firmware keeping sensors active wen they shouldn't be.
turn off unneeded sync options (i find that auto fetching my email uses a lot especially with my gmail already set to sync),
use wifi when you use the internet if possible, turn it off when out and about.
monitor cpu useage of apps that are cached in the task manager
kill apps that use cpu
if needed turn the max cpu clock down to 800mhz
set "use wireless networks" for location when possible for general location (limited to city level at times)
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Actually, high cell standby is OK if the phone is screen-off often.
Cell standby is always my top user - but my phone is sitting on my desk with the screen off frequently, in a location with weak signal. Weak signal makes cell standby usage go WAY up.
Syncwifi application is awesome for extending sync settings to gain more battery
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Using titanium backup I froze drm content 2.2.1 and this significantly increased my battery life.
Sent from my Infuse. It is what it isn't.
JuiceDefender!!
I agree JuiceDefender works!! I had to charge in the middle of the day. Now with moderate use it will last all day Im on stock Rom.
I easily get 2 days out of my Infuse, no idea how some of you are managing to only get 8 hours. After rooting my phone and freezing the bloat i easily get twice the battery life of my prior iPhone 3GS.

What causes my bad battery life?

Hi, I'm worried about my bad battery life. Any ideas what it causes or how to improve?
I'm on latest Carbon Rom (Android 4.4.2), Now activated, Hotword detection off.
Logs and Screenshots: see attachment
I don't get it. You have 1 day 9 hour usage and 1 hour 42 screen time. Your screen time is low but your usage is quite a while, better than mine. Could be bad signal, you have 1 bar in all the screenshots posted. Try turning off sync or mobile data when not in use.
It's a combination of poor signal and gps settings.
Switch location mode to Device only and get us an overnight BBS log.
System UI is unusually high. I can only assume this is customized UI elements draining the battery. Google services are 2nd on your list so locations and auto syncs, among other things.
When you're getting normal battery life Screen should be at the top. Anything draining more than Screen you need to look into.
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mistahseller said:
I don't get it. You have 1 day 9 hour usage and 1 hour 42 screen time. Your screen time is low but your usage is quite a while, better than mine. Could be bad signal, you have 1 bar in all the screenshots posted. Try turning off sync or mobile data when not in use.
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Actually, he charged the phone (look at the first picture above the number 26 ) and as result, it was less than 1 day, 9h.
Aerowinder said:
It's a combination of poor signal and gps settings.
Switch location mode to Device only and get us an overnight BBS log.
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Thanks for the quick answer. I switched to 'device only'. Please find attached the overnight BBS log.
any ideas? someone?
Hi,
I see systemui is at the top of the list in all your screens. Are you using "pocket mode" or lockscreen notifications? I had the same issue on Mahdi rom and it went away when i disabled "pocket mode"
Are you running a custom kernel?
Some general battery saving tips are :
-Lower your brightness (i have mine set at 20%)
-Download "Wakelock Detector" and "Greenify" from playstore. These 2 apps will solve any wakelock problems.
-Turn Google Location Reporting and Location History off.
Sometimes a simple reboot does wonder for your phone.
Everybody has their own best combo of ROM + kernel so it will be up to you to find what works for you.
I'm currently running Mahdi's ROM + Elementalx and get 4 hours of screen time, 4 hours of music playback (from SD card) and 20+ hours of standby time
simplyazn04 said:
Hi,
I see systemui is at the top of the list in all your screens. Are you using "pocket mode" or lockscreen notifications? I had the same issue on Mahdi rom and it went away when i disabled "pocket mode"
Are you running a custom kernel?
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Hi, yes I'm using pocket mode. Too bad that it's drains this much battery! I love this feature
to me it looks as you having terrible wifi. and since you left the wifi on, your terrible signal drained the battery.
Towelie90 said:
Hi, yes I'm using pocket mode. Too bad that it's drains this much battery! I love this feature
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Try turning off the feature for a day and see if it improves your battery life any.
I'm also a big fan of the pocket mode feature and s2w/dt2w features because i hate reaching for the power button but it killed my battery.
What i can suggest to you is to try an app called Gravity Screen by one of our very own xda developer. Somehow, he managed to get the turn screen on/off via proximity sensor to barely drain any battery. I use this app combined with Dynamic Notifications and every time i take my phone out of my pocket, i get notifications like the Moto X and screen on without power button.
Best of luck!
flash back to stock & change tamper flag, and get an exchange. I found out that the earlier models have some with batt and radio problems
simplyazn04 said:
Try turning off the feature for a day and see if it improves your battery life any.
I'm also a big fan of the pocket mode feature and s2w/dt2w features because i hate reaching for the power button but it killed my battery.
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Confirmed. Pocket Mode killed my battery, too. Since I deactivated it, my battery life is acceptable.
simplyazn04 said:
What i can suggest to you is to try an app called Gravity Screen by one of our very own xda developer. Somehow, he managed to get the turn screen on/off via proximity sensor to barely drain any battery. I use this app combined with Dynamic Notifications and every time i take my phone out of my pocket, i get notifications like the Moto X and screen on without power button.
Best of luck!
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I'll give it a try! Thank you very much for your detailed help!

Alternative for Always On Display

I know that Always On Display saves battery for people who frequently turn on their phone to see the time/notifications.
But, it kill more battery for people who dont turn on their phone display often.
So, is there a way to alter this feature so that the 'Always on Display' turns on only on screen tap/double tap.
What i want is,
the screen should be off,
when i tap/double tap the screen - Always on display must show the time/notifications for few seconds
when i click the home/power button, the normal lock-screen must be displayed
IS THERE A WAY TO DO THAT?
Nope. Its either on or off.
Theres one thing that u can do but it still be on just in a bit different way. Turn off the always on display then set night clock. In my case i do 00:00 ~ 23:59. Still looking a way how to put clock as edge feed
Always On should definitively have a TIMER; it's absurd to work during the night and I don't need the night clock either (the only one that can currently stop the Always On).....
ionutdicu said:
Always On should definitively have a TIMER; it's absurd to work during the night and I don't need the night clock either (the only one that can currently stop the Always On).....
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You can put the phone on its face. That will turn it off, just make sure you put a cloth under it so that you dont scratch the screen.
In my testing i found that AOD takes 3-4% in 9hrs overnight, thats less than 0.5%/hr. Very solid if you ask me
FalconFX said:
You can put the phone on its face. That will turn it off, just make sure you put a cloth under it so that you dont scratch the screen.
In my testing i found that AOD takes 3-4% in 9hrs overnight, thats less than 0.5%/hr. Very solid if you ask me
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I prefer to be done automatically, I really think that it is something easily achievable by Samsung.
And is is not only about battery consumption but also about screen burn-in, despite all the watch movement.....
I'm using acDisplay from the play store. It allows you to cover the proximity sensor and then let go. Also kicks on when you pick it up.
newpraneeth said:
I know that Always On Display saves battery for people who frequently turn on their phone to see the time/notifications.
But, it kill more battery for people who dont turn on their phone display often.
So, is there a way to alter this feature so that the 'Always on Display' turns on only on screen tap/double tap.
What i want is,
the screen should be off,
when i tap/double tap the screen - Always on display must show the time/notifications for few seconds
when i click the home/power button, the normal lock-screen must be displayed
IS THERE A WAY TO DO THAT?
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Use AC Display apk, I think that's what you need

app to force sleep and screen off at same time

i heard that the note 20 ultra may not be sleeping cores when screen is off and idle
also i have seen apps that can shut the screen off while forcing sleep at the same time
do not know what to type to find it as i want to test it on my note 20 ultra. anyone know of such apps list them below...
gloege said:
i heard that the note 20 ultra may not be sleeping cores when screen is off and idle
also i have seen apps that can shut the screen off while forcing sleep at the same time
do not know what to type to find it as i want to test it on my note 20 ultra. anyone know of such apps list them below...
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I use greenify. You don't have to be rooted to use it and there is a setting that puts apps you select to sleep and turn screen off (that might be a root feature tho, I'm not sure, I don't use it, I just have it set to force stop battery draining apps).
pre4speed said:
I use greenify. You don't have to be rooted to use it and there is a setting that puts apps you select to sleep and turn screen off (that might be a root feature tho, I'm not sure, I don't use it, I just have it set to force stop battery draining apps).
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NO i want a screen on off app that forces the whole phone to sleep every time you use it to turn off screen. like i said know one knows what i am talking about. but i did see it befor
gloege said:
NO i want a screen on off app that forces the whole phone to sleep every time you use it to turn off screen. like i said know one knows what i am talking about. but i did see it befor
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3rd party power management apps tend to screw things up by creating conflicts. You may find it better to let Android do it without using any other apps except to shutdown apps that are known offenders.
On my load it's Bixby (except Bixby Vision and Bixby Vision Framework) all cloud apps, Samsung Push, Gmail, Google backup Transport and Backup Transport Framework.
All I'm using is PD MDM and Settings changes on my 10+ running on Pie. You will need to -play- with it to optimize it. Most guides and power management apps just drop the ball.
Monitor it. The usage you see is AOD running. After I turned off the screen Android powered all the running Apps down. No trivmcks; in Stand By Apps you can see all are in the Active state, all the time, always but they power down when not in use. So much for buckets... using Samsung Device Manager adaptive power management will toggle those buckets to various states and cause more battery drain eventually.
Use Galaxy Labs>Battery Tracker
It's possible the newer versions of Samsung Device Manager run fine but test by monitoring and always be wary of all 3red party power management apps!
Have you looked into Bixby Routines or an app like Tasker where you can create rules? I can't say this will work (I don't use these apps), but if you haven't looked into using rule setting apps, that may be a solution for you.
still someone mentioned the note 20 ultra may not be sleeping the phones cores that is why battery life is so out of whack. i just wanted an app that when i tape it it will turn off the phone and sleep the cores instantly. someone mentioned it is better then waiting for the time it takes to let the phone do it. this will help me find out if the cores sleep or not buy using the app to see if it will give me better battery life. really no harm will be done. the phone sleeps cores anyway. but if a bug is keeping them awake i want to catch it and report it. so it be nice if i can find an app to shut off screen and sleep the cores as well and it will save my power button from wear
All I would like is an icon on my home screen that I could tap to turn the screen off. I feel I’m wearing out the power button the amount of times I use it to turn screen off. Not found any other way to do it
gloege said:
NO i want a screen on off app that forces the whole phone to sleep every time you use it to turn off screen. like i said know one knows what i am talking about. but i did see it befor
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g0tch said:
All I would like is an icon on my home screen that I could tap to turn the screen off. I feel I’m wearing out the power button the amount of times I use it to turn screen off. Not found any other way to do it
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Oh. Why didn't you say so?
Don't think Double Tap* works on 10....
but the Samsung Good Lock family app One Handed Operation Plus does
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lus&pcampaignid=APPU_1_dXJXX46SK8nEswXYmoWwDQ
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sl...tion-good-lock-app-from-samsung-11569355/amp/
This app is why you bought a curved screen Note....
*Double Tap may work on 10; it has a 2x tap on home button off option. No ads, no data usage, very low resource/battery usage. This is one of three screen off/no button options I have enabled.
blackhawk said:
Oh. Why didn't you say so?
Don't think Double Tap* works on 10....
but the Samsung Good Lock family app One Handed Operation Plus does
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.sidegesturepad&hl=en_US&referrer=utm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_term%3Done+handed+operation+plus&pcampaignid=APPU_1_dXJXX46SK8nEswXYmoWwDQ
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sl...tion-good-lock-app-from-samsung-11569355/amp/
This app is why you bought a curved screen Note....
*Double Tap may work on 10; it has a 2x tap on home button off option. No ads, no data usage, very low resource/battery usage. This is one of three screen off/no button options I have enabled.
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so will that force the whole phone into immediate sleep when i tap it and the screen goes off
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so will that force the whole phone into immediate sleep when i tap it and the screen goes off
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Mine does but no idea how yours is configured.
The app simple turns off the screen same as hitting the power button.
Apps like Greenify tend to make a mess out of unrooted phones.
blackhawk said:
Mine does but no idea how yours is configured.
The app simple turns off the screen same as hitting the power button.
Apps like Greenify tend to make a mess out of unrooted phones.
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well i need it to turn off screen and force the phone into sleep the instant the screen goes off i heard of apps like this but never needed one
gloege said:
so will that force the whole phone into immediate sleep when i tap it and the screen goes off
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gloege said:
well i need it to turn off screen and force the phone into sleep the instant the screen goes off i heard of apps like this but never needed one
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To what end? I have about 60 apks blocked, no sync running for Gmail, Calendar, etc, no cloud apps, no trash message apps, no FB, Playstore is blocked unless I unblock it and no 3rd party power management*.
My OS "sleeps" within a minute or so of turning the screen off.
Still a lot of stuff running though plus I'm using AOD.
It uses a little under 1% of battery per hour and better with no AOD.
Reboots generally don't fix power issues at all.
*all 3rd party power management apps including Samsung's Device Manager (disabled) cause more problems than they solve and many times cause excessive power consumption as well. All my app buckets show as active in Developer Options.
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To what end? I have about 60 apks blocked, no sync running for Gmail, Calendar, etc, no cloud apps, no trash message apps, no FB, Playstore is blocked unless I unblock it and no 3rd party power management*.
My OS "sleeps" within a minute or so of turning the screen off.
Still a lot of stuff running though plus I'm using AOD.
It uses a little under 1% of battery per hour and better with no AOD.
Reboots generally don't fix power issues at all.
*all 3rd party power management apps including Samsung's Device Manager (disabled) cause more problems than they solve and many times cause excessive power consumption as well. All my app buckets show as active in Developer Options.
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i bet, but some have said it is not sleeping cores that may be the same as os sleeping. and why wait a min when you can have an app do it when you tap it. i just want to test if forcing the os/phone into sleep will make a difference and they got apps that can turn off screen and force sleep i just can not find them. i found one in 2015 and lost it forever
blackhawk said:
Oh. Why didn't you say so?
Don't think Double Tap* works on 10....
but the Samsung Good Lock family app One Handed Operation Plus does
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lus&pcampaignid=APPU_1_dXJXX46SK8nEswXYmoWwDQ
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sl...tion-good-lock-app-from-samsung-11569355/amp/
This app is why you bought a curved screen Note....
*Double Tap may work on 10; it has a 2x tap on home button off option. No ads, no data usage, very low resource/battery usage. This is one of three screen off/no button options I have enabled.
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I did install One Hand Operation +, but for the life of me, I can’t see how to configure it to turn screen off with 2x tap on home button
gloege said:
i heard that the note 20 ultra may not be sleeping cores when screen is off and idle
also i have seen apps that can shut the screen off while forcing sleep at the same time
do not know what to type to find it as i want to test it on my note 20 ultra. anyone know of such apps list them below...
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I use Nap Time by Francisco Franco the kernel developer for rooted devices from a couple years ago. It will put the phone into a deep doze, which android already has. You will need to do a couple adb commands to get it working on non rooted phones, it's one of the first apps I install on a new phone. The phone can sit 10 hours over night and drop between 3-5%, you can have it turn bluetooth, wifi and data off while in a doze. Here's what Franco says about his app.
This is the real battery saver. No placebo and dumb marketing shenanigans!
Naptime lowers your device's power consumption while the display is off by empowering Android's built-in doze power saving functionality. Faster idle means less power being consumed unecessarily. By default doze can take a while to kick in so Naptime just speeds-up that process automagically for you.
It can also automatically disable W-iFi, mobile data, location & bluetooth as soon as doze kicks in.
Experimental features such as automatic Android Battery Saver, Aggressive Doze timings, Aggressive Doze scheduling times and location detection.
Now you have profiles so you can load them up on demand based on your usage and accessible from Quick Tiles.
Most features work if you're not rooted, but to have the full experience you'll have to root your device.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.doze&hl=en
g0tch said:
I did install One Hand Operation +, but for the life of me, I can’t see how to configure it to turn screen off with 2x tap on home button
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You can't double tap with that one; set one or more of the slides to turn off the screen. I use that as to kill the screen, navigate and more.
Double Tap is the one that does just that.
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You can't double tap with that one; set one or more of the slides to turn off the screen. I use that as to kill the screen, navigate and more.
Double Tap is the one that does just that.
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Many thanks, but I cannot find that setting at all. is my 80 year old brain letting me down, I wonder
g0tch said:
I did install One Hand Operation +, but for the life of me, I can’t see how to configure it to turn screen off with 2x tap on home button
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g0tch said:
Many thanks, but I cannot find that setting at all. is my 80 year old brain letting me down, I wonder
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You need to install the app, Double Tap first*
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...apk&pcampaignid=APPU_1_GzNZX_bWNsWosgXA3bmQAw
Give it required permissions/access. A clean app; zero data usage, no ads.
*Sorry if I mislead you. I have a lot of customization apps on this Android; most are Samsung but a few like this one aren't.
blackhawk said:
You need to install the app, Double Tap first*
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...apk&pcampaignid=APPU_1_GzNZX_bWNsWosgXA3bmQAw
Give it required permissions/access. A clean app; zero data usage, no ads.
*Sorry if I mislead you. I have a lot of customization apps on this Android; most are Samsung but a few like this one aren't.
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does it put the phone in deep sleep or do i have to use them in tandem
gloege said:
does it put the phone in deep sleep or do i have to use them in tandem
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It turns off the screen. There's always system apks running in the background unless you power off the phone. You can limit what runs to some extent.
If your getting around 1% per hour battery drain when the screen is off I call it done.

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