Hi, haven't had a Pixel for a long time (last one was a 4 XL) so pardon my Aly question
Brand new Pixel 7 Pro, charged at 100% and went to bed with AOD on, woke up after 7h with 92% battery: is this normal?
PS: I'm used to Xiaomi 13 Pro with AOD off using almost 0% overnight.
Thx
I'd be very surprised if a phone really consumed 0% over 7 hours, WITH AOD on. Infinite battery life?
That said, sounds about normal, especially until the system sets.
I believe Xiaomi is sort of cheating with batt %, since in the morning stays at 100% even after 15 mins of usage
By the way, I disabled AOD and will test tonight.
Happy to be back to a Pixel though
Also note that if you put it face down on a flat surface it will activate DND, and do try the bedtime mode since it reduces battery consumption.
How do you enable bedtime mode?
Look in settings, it's under Digital Wellbeing
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Battery will adjust with use, it consumes quite a bit more than normal the first few days.
Once it adjusted, for me it went down to 0.6-0.7%/hr. That was before I started installing apps though!
What about charging speed?
Is there a switch to turn on/off adaptive charging to have quicker charging during the day?
Nope, you have to settle for it. For me, it's fast enough to be honest...
The Xioami.waa charging at 120W 0 to 100 in 20 mins
thegios said:
The Xioami.waa charging at 120W 0 to 100 in 20 mins
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Great for long term battery life.
Xiaomi gives me a new phone for free every quarter, who cares
thegios said:
I believe Xiaomi is sort of cheating with batt %, since in the morning stays at 100% even after 15 mins of usage
By the way, I disabled AOD and will test tonight.
Happy to be back to a Pixel though
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It's not cheating really. Just their charging "design". If you keep a Xiaomi phone on a charger even after it charges 100%, it actually charges a bit more than 100% you just can't see it. So, from 100% to 99% is like not actually 1% of battery capacity but like 3-4-5%.
krakout said:
Also note that if you put it face down on a flat surface it will activate DND, and do try the bedtime mode since it reduces battery consumption.
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I noticed that, when on charge, if I simply turn on Do Not Disturb, the adaptive charging notification appears, but if I turn on bedtime mode, the adaptive charging notification disappears.
thegios said:
I noticed that, when on charge, if I simply turn on Do Not Disturb, the adaptive charging notification appears, but if I turn on bedtime mode, the adaptive charging notification disappears.
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Disable global power management; it never did work right. Find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
If you find the source(s) of the excessive drain and correct them, the excess battery usage disappears immediately. Close apps before you put the device in sleep mode.
Developer options > standby apps, if all buckets show as active global power management is disable. If various bucket states exist and/or those states can be altered, it is active. It can't be disable here; power management settings. Altering background battery usage in the individual app settings doesn't invoke global power management...
blackhawk said:
Disable global power management; it never did work right. Find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
If you find the source(s) of the excessive drain and correct them, the excess battery usage disappears immediately. Close apps before you put the device in sleep mode.
Developer options > standby apps, if all buckets show as active global power management is disable. If various bucket states exist and/or those states can be altered, it is active. It can't be disable here; power management settings. Altering background battery usage in the individual app settings doesn't invoke global power management...
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I have not understood a word of your reasoning... Apologies...
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I have to charge my phone 2 or 3 times a day any recommendations on how to make my battery life longer that are simple and easy
Jawdude said:
I have to charge my phone 2 or 3 times a day any recommendations on how to make my battery life longer that are simple and easy
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I'm a truck driver and I'm a heavy user.
I did too before I made the changes below. These all work with the Stock Rom.
1. Installed No Lock (so that I don't have to swipe the screen to unlock, just push the power button)
2. Set screen to turn off in 30 seconds.
3. Installed Brightness Widget (allows changing the brightness from the home screen
4. Installed Screen Filter (lets me really darken my screen at night.
Try those and see how you do.
5. I then flashed the Infused Rom (I now get up to 10-14 hours)
Jawdude said:
I have to charge my phone 2 or 3 times a day any recommendations on how to make my battery life longer that are simple and easy
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Custom kernal and rom
Running refused and infusion 1.8 rom and I get 14 hours with heavy data use
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Also, Turn off GPS and Wifi when you're not using them.
Battery
After much experimenting and monitoring of battery use I find that the biggest drain is the screen display, so go to settings-->display-->brightness and lower the screen brightness as low as you comfortably can. Also when you you are not using the phone make sure the screen is off, I have trained myself to automatically hit the power button every time I put down the phone. If you listen to music through your phone make sure the settings on your music players allow the phone to play when the screen is off and turn the screen off while it plays.
GPS also drains the battery, so I keep it turned off when I don't use the Nav. When I use the Nav I know the battery will drain at a rapid pace, nothing you can do there, even if I have the phone plugged in to car power while using Nav it still drains the battery! Drains slower than unplugged navigating but still drains.
If your watching videos then your S.O.L. there's really nothing you can do that will increase battery life enough to make a difference during video playback.
I get 10-12 hours with regular use and stock rom. Worst was 8 hours best was 24.
Thanks for all the advice this has really helped my battery
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I'm a truck driver and I'm a heavy user.
3. Installed Brightness Widget (allows changing the brightness from the home screen
There was a recent post that showed a shortcut for changing the screen brightness from the homescreen without any additional software. First, turn off auto brightness. Second, tap and hold the menu bar at the top. Third, slide left to reduce the screen brightness and right to increase screen brightness.
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menzoom said:
After much experimenting and monitoring of battery use I find that the biggest drain is the screen display, so go to settings-->display-->brightness and lower the screen brightness as low as you comfortably can. Also when you you are not using the phone make sure the screen is off, I have trained myself to automatically hit the power button every time I put down the phone. If you listen to music through your phone make sure the settings on your music players allow the phone to play when the screen is off and turn the screen off while it plays.
GPS also drains the battery, so I keep it turned off when I don't use the Nav. When I use the Nav I know the battery will drain at a rapid pace, nothing you can do there, even if I have the phone plugged in to car power while using Nav it still drains the battery! Drains slower than unplugged navigating but still drains.
If your watching videos then your S.O.L. there's really nothing you can do that will increase battery life enough to make a difference during video playback.
I get 10-12 hours with regular use and stock rom. Worst was 8 hours best was 24.
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How does it drain your battery when its plugged into the car? I have never seen that on any cell phone. That my friend is messed up if true.
reissy said:
How does it drain your battery when its plugged into the car? I have never seen that on any cell phone. That my friend is messed up if true.
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It seems that Samsung ****ed up and included phone CPU/screen/etc usage when measuring battery charge current.
This means that the 600 mA stock battery charge current limit isn't just going to the battery, it's split between battery/screen/CPU. If screen/CPU/etc go above 600 mA (Navigation at full brightness seems to be the most common way), battery starts draining.
It also means that unless there's something I'm missing (which I could be since the MAX8998 datasheet is super-ultra-secret), our phone isn't going to be able to do proper charge termination - if the screen is on/CPU is running, it will cause a falsely high battery charge current reading, which will cause charging to fail to terminate.
Juice defender
I found that juice defender helped my battery and i just use the free version it's a great app
I used Iphone 3g 3gs 4. None of them drain battery like this one. First time use Android phone and getting a bit disappointed of this phone. It's draining 2% every 5 mins and im using stock Rom.
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Install a ROM. Infused v2 nearly doubled my screen-on battery life and tripled my screen-off battery life.
sweetboy02125 said:
I used Iphone 3g 3gs 4. None of them drain battery like this one. First time use Android phone and getting a bit disappointed of this phone. It's draining 2% every 5 mins and im using stock Rom.
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That's excessive... Rogue app maybe?
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Truckerglenn said:
I'm a truck driver and I'm a heavy user.
3. Installed Brightness Widget (allows changing the brightness from the home screen
There was a recent post that showed a shortcut for changing the screen brightness from the homescreen without any additional software. First, turn off auto brightness. Second, tap and hold the menu bar at the top. Third, slide left to reduce the screen brightness and right to increase screen brightness.
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Thanks I never new that
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look in about phone battery use to identify the biggest battery user, it should be the screen. anything else and there is a problem.
the cell standby may go high on froyo rom, turning on flight mode and turning it off will correct that, it's an android bug.
on gingerbread the android os or android system may hog battery occasionally. some think it is the wifi sleep policy but it pops up on me without setting the sleep policy. the fix for that is to pull the battery for a couple minutes and put it back in and restart the phone.
next manage the screen brightness
install a custom rom, there are issues with certain firmware keeping sensors active wen they shouldn't be.
turn off unneeded sync options (i find that auto fetching my email uses a lot especially with my gmail already set to sync),
use wifi when you use the internet if possible, turn it off when out and about.
monitor cpu useage of apps that are cached in the task manager
kill apps that use cpu
if needed turn the max cpu clock down to 800mhz
set "use wireless networks" for location when possible for general location (limited to city level at times)
Dani897 said:
look in about phone battery use to identify the biggest battery user, it should be the screen. anything else and there is a problem.
the cell standby may go high on froyo rom, turning on flight mode and turning it off will correct that, it's an android bug.
on gingerbread the android os or android system may hog battery occasionally. some think it is the wifi sleep policy but it pops up on me without setting the sleep policy. the fix for that is to pull the battery for a couple minutes and put it back in and restart the phone.
next manage the screen brightness
install a custom rom, there are issues with certain firmware keeping sensors active wen they shouldn't be.
turn off unneeded sync options (i find that auto fetching my email uses a lot especially with my gmail already set to sync),
use wifi when you use the internet if possible, turn it off when out and about.
monitor cpu useage of apps that are cached in the task manager
kill apps that use cpu
if needed turn the max cpu clock down to 800mhz
set "use wireless networks" for location when possible for general location (limited to city level at times)
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Actually, high cell standby is OK if the phone is screen-off often.
Cell standby is always my top user - but my phone is sitting on my desk with the screen off frequently, in a location with weak signal. Weak signal makes cell standby usage go WAY up.
Syncwifi application is awesome for extending sync settings to gain more battery
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Using titanium backup I froze drm content 2.2.1 and this significantly increased my battery life.
Sent from my Infuse. It is what it isn't.
JuiceDefender!!
I agree JuiceDefender works!! I had to charge in the middle of the day. Now with moderate use it will last all day Im on stock Rom.
I easily get 2 days out of my Infuse, no idea how some of you are managing to only get 8 hours. After rooting my phone and freezing the bloat i easily get twice the battery life of my prior iPhone 3GS.
Hey guys so I know there are a few things that can improve battery life and some things that are supposed to help but may be a mith? Things as only draining battery to 10% and charging to 90% or something like this. What are tips that help? Also if you guys have changed your cpu settings that really improved the battery life let us know!
I drained my battery down to 0% after the second time I used it and it pushed my battery up from 3:30 to 5:30. I also use batterybar to see the stats and whatnot. Another thing you can do is go into power options in the Control Panel and change the plan settings > advance power settings. I usually change the Processor power management settings and the Intel Graphics Settings.
Kraize said:
I drained my battery down to 0% after the second time I used it and it pushed my battery up from 3:30 to 5:30. I also use batterybar to see the stats and whatnot. Another thing you can do is go into power options in the Control Panel and change the plan settings > advance power settings. I usually change the Processor power management settings and the Intel Graphics Settings.
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do you ever charge it to 100%
Does leaving it on the charger like when playing a game or something matter? Does it stop charging once it reaches 100
AFAIK, leaving it on the charger shouldn't matter. It's a smart charger. I always charge it to 100%, but never go lower than 10%. I try to recharge around 15%.
Best thing I've done is disable my bluetooth since I have no devices that use it.
Second is lower the brightness while on battery.
I'm getting around 5:30 of battery life doing things like browsing, email, news reading, and using Autodesk Sketchbook Design.
Disable automatic brightness. Change the screen timeout to the lowest value that works for you. Turn off BT. Turn off live tiles and notifications for apps you don't need to update on your main screen and lock screen. Run the troubleshooter for power and see if you can deal with what it changes.
I have had a battery drain for several weeks now. It isn't to severe but the biggest issue bothering me the most is at night it is draining about 5-6% even with battery saver turned on. It used to be that in normal mode, the battery would only drop 2-3% over night. I do not charge at night.
I am fully updated and I even reset the phone to factory 2 days ago and the issue still persists. Nothing seems to stand out in the battery stats with regards to apps sucking battery %. So I think this is an issue where it is not going into Doze or Deep Doze but I dont know how to determine that.
Any suggestions how to find the problem?
(on android 10)
When you wake up in the morning...
Go into "Settings"
Then "Battery"
Then click the top right three dots
Then select "Battery Usage"
It should show you which apps used the most battery during the night.
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(on android 10)
When you wake up in the morning...
Go into "Settings"
Then "Battery"
Then click the top right three dots
Then select "Battery Usage"
It should show you which apps used the most battery during the night.
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I have done that. No apps appear to be doing anything unusual. There are no battery hogs showing up. Not even excessive google services usage or anything. That is why I think this may be a situation where it isn't going into doze or deep doze like it used to but I dont know how to check or monitor that. that info doesn't show in battery stats.
I never heard of this doze/deep doze mode - where did you see this?
I ask because I typically get 10% loss overnight with what I thought was very good because the pixel often then calculates I have 2 days of remaining battery life with that stat.
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I never heard of this doze/deep doze mode - where did you see this?
I ask because I typically get 10% loss overnight with what I thought was very good because the pixel often then calculates I have 2 days of remaining battery life with that stat.
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You can google it as there are tons of articles about it but here is some insight into it from the developer side: https://bignerdranch.com/blog/diving-into-doze-mode-for-developers/
OK, so it says in order to go into deep-doze, the phone:
1) Must not be charging
2) The screen is off
3) The phone is not moving
So, during the night, are all three of these conditions met?
Also, the device will come out of deep-doze if an incoming push notification is received - could one of your apps be receiving push notifications during the night?
Also, "Any process using a foreground service is exempt from Doze Mode effects, which is key for long-running applications"...do you possibly have any apps that have a foreground service?
Have you tried to switch off Bluetooth, it has a huge impact on battery even if not in use.
I've used apps before. Can't remember but gsam might be one...
It's possible to identify apps that are holding wake locks. That's the first place to check for battery drain.
lop1 said:
Have you tried to switch off Bluetooth, it has a huge impact on battery even if not in use.
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I always keep WiFi, bluetooth, NFC and location off.
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I've used apps before. Can't remember but gsam might be one...
It's possible to identify apps that are holding wake locks. That's the first place to check for battery drain.
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all the apps I can find to track wake locks seem to need ROOT. I'd rather not do that as then I lose OTA updates.
After some extreme disabling of user app, system apps, services, etc. I finally got back to 3% battery drop overnight. I'm not sure which one was the culprit yet but i'll start enabling things as I need them and keep monitoring.
I'm having heavy battery drain. I already charged to 100 and less to 30 minutes i lost 10%.
It began since last update on my case.
After you see a big drain, DON'T plug in and...
Go into "Settings"
Then "Battery"
Then click the top right three dots
Then select "Battery Usage"
It should show you which apps are to blame for the drain.
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all the apps I can find to track wake locks seem to need ROOT.
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Gsam needs permissions but these can be set with USB debugging, no root needed.
So one thing I have learned is that it appears every time I reboot, gsam thinks my wifi is on even though I have it off. If i turn it on and then back off. Gsam now says wifi is off.
So i got through the night at 3% battery drain but now I am realizing that my phone will not go into deep sleep during the day. Any suggestions how to fix that?
According to the details in the link posted earlier, it will never go into deep sleep if the phone is moving.
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According to the details in the link posted earlier, it will never go into deep sleep if the phone is moving.
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I leave my phone sitting on a desk all day. There has to be some Android services that only operate during the day but i can't dtermine what those might be.
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So i got through the night at 3% battery drain but now I am realizing that my phone will not go into deep sleep during the day. Any suggestions how to fix that?
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Was gsam able to identify which app was holding a wake lock?
Or maybe triggering frequent wakeups?
Both of those would prevent doze...
Battery Guru is good for chasing drains (with ADBs), add BBS + adbs and you can find anything using them together!
a1291762 said:
Was gsam able to identify which app was holding a wake lock?
Or maybe triggering frequent wakeups?
Both of those would prevent doze...
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Google play services mostly. There was a large amount from "Adaptive connectiviy" but when I disabled that those went away.
Hi everyone.
I got a watch 4 classic a few days ago and I've been liking it a lot. I've heard that battery life is a bit tricky in the first few days until the device learns my patterns and everything but I really got a bit frustrated with the sleep tracking drain. Got around 20% drain in the first couple of nights without any sensors enabled besides HR every 10 minutes.
From what I've read this is new as the previous generations had very little drain with sleep tracking but I've also seen some people with much better battery drain with watch 4 as well in the same scenario as myself. Is there anything known to cause this differences in battery drain?
Thanks
drained 13% for me with both hr and blood oxygen enabled constantly.
make sure enable bedtime mode
15% drain with HR/SPO2 set to continuous with snore tracking. Make sure you kill all background apps before sleeping, ensure you dont have a battery sucking watchface....and put it to bedtime mode to ensure it doesnt wake up and drain battery when you go about doing your sleep things
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15% drain with HR/SPO2 set to continuous with snore tracking. Make sure you kill all background apps before sleeping, ensure you dont have a battery sucking watchface....and put it to bedtime mode to ensure it doesnt wake up and drain battery when you go about doing your sleep things
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This is something I've only recently started paying attention: background apps. I'll do a few tests on it.
Thanks for the heads-up
How to kill my background apps?
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15% drain with HR/SPO2 set to continuous with snore tracking. Make sure you kill all background apps before sleeping, ensure you dont have a battery sucking watchface....and put it to bedtime mode to ensure it doesnt wake up and drain battery when you go about doing your sleep things
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ctibor said:
How to kill my background apps?
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Swipe up to show your apps drawer....tap on the 2 circles icon (recents) and scroll all the way to the left and tap close all
For me (SGW 4 Classic LTE) the battery drain in sleep tracking with HR only I get more than 25% drain. I would like to add that the LTE variant, with or without mobile plan, drains more than 60% of my battery even with Mobile networks turned off from the Settings menu. The firmware is DUJA.
Here's a tip to save battery while still preserving the most important functions of your S22.
Enable "Developer Options" and turn on the "Sensors Off" quick set toggle in the "Quick Set Developers Tiles" area.
This will give you a new "Sensors Off" quick toggle to enable or disable all the Sensors on the phone, including the camera and mic. I've found this saves quite a bit of battery while not affecting most everyday uses. Additionally, overnight, my S22 only used about 3% of battery in 6 hours of idle time.
The rest of your phone will continue to function like normal including the mobile network and Wi-Fi. This also comes in handy if you want a more private experience. To turn the sensors back on all it takes is a tap of the Sensors Off button in the notification shade.
Thanks will give it a go. Right now I'm losing about 6 to 7% overnight
Stuart R said:
Here's a tip to save battery while still preserving the most important functions of your S22.
Enable "Developer Options" and turn on the "Sensors Off" quick set toggle in the "Quick Set Developers Tiles" area.
This will give you a new "Sensors Off" quick toggle to enable or disable all the Sensors on the phone, including the camera and mic. I've found this saves quite a bit of battery while not affecting most everyday uses. Additionally, overnight, my S22 only used about 3% of battery in 6 hours of idle time.
The rest of your phone will continue to function like normal including the mobile network and Wi-Fi. This also comes in handy if you want a more private experience. To turn the sensors back on all it takes is a tap of the Sensors Off button in the notification shade.
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So one needs to turn it back on whenever they want to make a call or use the camera and leave it off all the other times?
Just realized lift to wake doesn't work if you have sensors off.
Disabling the sensors I've noticed that turn on the screen by pushing the power button is slower. Can you please confirm this?
Any way to set this on automatically when you go to sleep and off again when you wake up via Bixby Routines?
butchieboy said:
Thanks will give it a go. Right now I'm losing about 6 to 7% overnight
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that's not bad at all. its usually like 9-10% for me on my S10 5G. My ultra is coming in April unfortunately
Just in case you are not aware, this Sensors Off quick settings developer tile is not unique to Samsung. It’s most likely available on all Android 11 & 12 devices. I have it available as an option in LOS 18.1
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Any way to set this on automatically when you go to sleep and off again when you wake up via Bixby Routines?
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I don't know if Bixby supports Developer Options. Might have better luck using a custom task in Tasker.
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Just realized lift to wake doesn't work if you have sensors off.
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Ah ... Yeah, lots of little convenience items will be affected in day to day use but I'm leaving the Sensors Off until I need them. YMMV.
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So one needs to turn it back on whenever they want to take make a call or use the camera and leave it off all the other times?
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That's pretty much the story as I understand it.
Stuart R said:
Ah ... Yeah, lots of little convenience items will be affected in day to day use but I'm leaving the Sensors Off until I need them. YMMV.
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Yeah still useful. I will just turn them off when it's time for bed. Thanks again.
Stuart R said:
Here's a tip to save battery while still preserving the most important functions of your S22.
Enable "Developer Options" and turn on the "Sensors Off" quick set toggle in the "Quick Set Developers Tiles" area.
This will give you a new "Sensors Off" quick toggle to enable or disable all the Sensors on the phone, including the camera and mic. I've found this saves quite a bit of battery while not affecting most everyday uses. Additionally, overnight, my S22 only used about 3% of battery in 6 hours of idle time.
The rest of your phone will continue to function like normal including the mobile network and Wi-Fi. This also comes in handy if you want a more private experience. To turn the sensors back on all it takes is a tap of the Sensors Off button in the notification shade.
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I tried this today, and even with sensors off I was able to talk over whatsapp call.
Am I missing something?
Stuart R said:
Here's a tip to save battery while still preserving the most important functions of your S22.
Enable "Developer Options" and turn on the "Sensors Off" quick set toggle in the "Quick Set Developers Tiles" area.
This will give you a new "Sensors Off" quick toggle to enable or disable all the Sensors on the phone, including the camera and mic. I've found this saves quite a bit of battery while not affecting most everyday uses. Additionally, overnight, my S22 only used about 3% of battery in 6 hours of idle time.
The rest of your phone will continue to function like normal including the mobile network and Wi-Fi. This also comes in handy if you want a more private experience. To turn the sensors back on all it takes is a tap of the Sensors Off button in the notification shade.
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So the cameraservice wakelock is also on the s22 ultra? Omg
chillsen said:
that's not bad at all. its usually like 9-10% for me on my S10 5G. My ultra is coming in April unfortunately
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Same here. Most fun is my Huawei Mate 20x (my work phone) is using between 0-1% over night, around 7-8 hours
I checked last night, and my S22 Ultra used 3-4% battery in 6-7hrs overnight. That's without turning off sensors, and with all the battery 'optimisations' disabled. I use AOD, but have it on a timer so it's not running overnight.
I don't know why others are getting such poor battery life, it's very odd.
I'm losing around 1% per hour overnight, AOD off and with mobile data
Thanks for the tip
butchieboy said:
Thanks will give it a go. Right now I'm losing about 6 to 7% overnight
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Did it help? How much are you losing overnight now with the setting on?
dj24 said:
Did it help? How much are you losing overnight now with the setting on?
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It was about the same for me about 6% overnight.