I've always purchased unlocked Samsung phones, but lately Samsung has been super slow updating them compared to the carrier phones. About to pull the trigger on an S22 Ultra and leaning more towards the T-mobile branded one then the Unlocked one. I can always delete most of the bloatware.
I have a N975U and a N975U1. Both are near identical. However if you replace say the C port pcb you need to get the correct one for that variant. Both have bloatware.
If you can get a better deal with TMOBILE that might be best. I don't know what they throw on their phones.
As for updates especially firmware... they tend to break phones especially branded ones.
Rule #1- if an OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission let it be!
My oldest N10+ is still running on Pie, the current load will be 2 yo in June, still fast and stable. Security is simply not an issue with it... unless you do something stupid. There's no saving dumb bunnies... so forget the scare hype.
Know the vulnerabilities, mitigate as best as possible but most of all always be careful what you install and download. Zero tolerance for any malware, if it can't be eradicated in an hour or two, factory reset.
I got the unlocked Note 20 Ultra directly from Samsung, because at the time, AT&T didn't offer the 512gb. Today, I purchased the Galaxy 22 Ultra directly from Samsung because AT&T is not currently selling the 1TB version. Also, I find that the Samsung bloatware is considerably less than that of the phone carrier.
baddison said:
I got the unlocked Note 20 Ultra directly from Samsung, because at the time, AT&T didn't offer the 512gb. Today, I purchased the Galaxy 22 Ultra directly from Samsung because AT&T is not currently selling the 1TB version. Also, I find that the Samsung bloatware is considerably less than that of the phone carrier.
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I just use a package disabler on both. Operationally there's no discernible difference although I don't use any of the AT&T features.
Point is both variants are a mess without the package disabler... I was hoping the unlocked version make me say "wow", not meh
Be real swell of Samsung if they had a built in package disabler...
The S22U I ordered is the 1st Samsung phone I've ordered that was not an AT&T model. I need wifi calling and the word is it works on unlocked Samsung phones now. Samsung loads up all their phones with stuff but the AT&T models get the super deluxe bloatware package. It would be great if they gave you more control of what you have on your phone but they have made some pretty nice changes lately with the OS and updates.
I ordered S22U 512gb T-mobile version from Samsung hoping to take advantage of the carrier aggregation and other network improvement. I have Note 20 Ultra 5g unlocked on T-mobile and it does not perform better compared to the iPhone 13 Pro Max. Mostly I have to have the Note on 4g LTE to get great performace. So hopefully I made the right choice.
I thought that the unlocked versions got the security and OS updates first. That alone would be enough for me to get one. However, Samsung doesn't accept pixel 6 pros for trade in yet.. Verizon gave me $1000, what I paid, so, kind of had to do that.. Hopefully I'm wrong!
I do know that you CAN get Verizon at least to unlock your phone. I'll have to see about that for sure.
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I thought that the unlocked versions got the security and OS updates first. That alone would be enough for me to get one. However, Samsung doesn't accept pixel 6 pros for trade in yet.. Verizon gave me $1000, what I paid, so, kind of had to do that.. Hopefully I'm wrong!
I do know that you CAN get Verizon at least to unlock your phone. I'll have to see about that for sure.
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That's pretty funny as Samsung will take iPhones.
AT&T does as well... read the contract and conditions. I've unlocked 2 so far. Buying off the phone after 2 years nets you big savings at least with AT&T.
The updates aren't generally needed for Android 9 and higher useless you do stupid things.
That said there's no saving dumb bunnies... most malware is user loaded/downloaded.
I really don't do an incredible lot to secure Android 9 and it holds up very well.
Try this settings change for global ad blocking and it picks off some of the worst sites as well.
I also use some of the Samsung browser ad blocker plugins; that browser is somewhat vulnerable especially without them.
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I had an ATT locked phone, and while it worked fine with some other carriers (Tmobile) it wouldn't work correct with Mint Mobile. I finally had to put the unlocked firmware on it which fixed the problem. This is with a Fold 3 and an S10.
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I thought that the unlocked versions got the security and OS updates first. That alone would be enough for me to get one. However, Samsung doesn't accept pixel 6 pros for trade in yet.. Verizon gave me $1000, what I paid, so, kind of had to do that.. Hopefully I'm wrong!
I do know that you CAN get Verizon at least to unlock your phone. I'll have to see about that for sure.
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Variant color kept me from going the VZW route, but may reconsider. The $1000 is bill credits spread out over 3 yrs with a penalty of losing the credits if you just want to pay it off right?
howie411 said:
I've always purchased unlocked Samsung phones, but lately Samsung has been super slow updating them compared to the carrier phones. About to pull the trigger on an S22 Ultra and leaning more towards the T-mobile branded one then the Unlocked one. I can always delete most of the bloatware.
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Honestly TMo in the past has had so little bloatware you could hardly tell the difference between the TMo branded Galaxy and the unlocked. Just the annoying magenta splash screen and boot sound.
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I thought that the unlocked versions got the security and OS updates first. That alone would be enough for me to get one. However, Samsung doesn't accept pixel 6 pros for trade in yet.. Verizon gave me $1000, what I paid, so, kind of had to do that.. Hopefully I'm wrong!
I do know that you CAN get Verizon at least to unlock your phone. I'll have to see about that for sure.
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That's never been the case. The Unlocked is always the last to get the updates. This gets discussed every year, with every Samsung device, and every major update.
I usually get the carrier version then flash the corresponding U1 unlocked firmware. Best of both worlds, though be sure to carrier unlock the phone first if needed.
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I usually get the carrier version then flash the corresponding U1 unlocked firmware. Best of both worlds, though be sure to carrier unlock the phone first if needed.
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What happens if your on a U1 unlocked version running U1 firmware and you flash the U carrier version using Home CFC so not to wipe. Will you still get all the carrier version mess and bloatware ?
The reason I ask is there's a new update out for my Fold 3 but only the U carrier version is out not the U1
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I thought that the unlocked versions got the security and OS updates first. That alone would be enough for me to get one. However, Samsung doesn't accept pixel 6 pros for trade in yet.. Verizon gave me $1000, what I paid, so, kind of had to do that.. Hopefully I'm wrong!
I do know that you CAN get Verizon at least to unlock your phone. I'll have to see about that for sure.
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Verizon will Carrier unlock after 60 days by default. They will NOT unlock the bootloader. Ever!
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So Samsung has decided to release unlocked version of the s7 & S7 edge the works on all carries in the U.S. I wonder if the bootloader is locked?????
http://www.androidbeat.com/2016/06/unlocked-galaxy-s7-edge-available-united-states/
I was just about to create this same thread. It looks like Tmobile heard everyone. this is straight from them. Basically if you want an unlocked phone there is an option for that now.
http://www.tmonews.com/2016/06/unlocked-samsung-galaxy-s7-s7-edge-launching-today-u-s/
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I was just about to create this same thread. It looks like Tmobile heard everyone. this is straight from them. Basically if you want an unlocked phone there is an option for that now.
http://www.tmonews.com/2016/06/unlocked-samsung-galaxy-s7-s7-edge-launching-today-u-s/
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That's so freaking awesome, I know AT&T & Verizon will do everything in it's power to prevent us from getting an unlocked bootloader. Now is sucks because I want to buy and unlocked version but the Note 7 is dropping in roughly 45 days...
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That's so freaking awesome, I know AT&T & Verizon will do everything in it's power to prevent us from getting an unlocked bootloader. Now is sucks because I want to buy and unlocked version but the Note 7 is dropping in roughly 45 days...
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Might be worth holding out until October to get the Note 7. My guess is that there will be an unlocked model that gets released by then as well.
So will the bootloader finally be unlocked now?
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So will the bootloader finally be unlocked now?
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Probably not. Same SD820 SoC as the carrier-locked versions.
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...galaxy-s7-edge-unlocked-us-price-availability
It's all about the bootloader....no article is yet to mention the bootloader....nor am i seeing a model number? Sm-n930/5-what?
Honestly, if I'm buying direct from Samsung, I don't expect to be locked out of the device...what firmware will this phone run?
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This is hilarious considering I tweeted to T-Mobile yesterday asking them nicely to take my phone back since I bought the pre-order without knowing Jack about the boot loader situation and that their CEO hasn't updated us either.
Looks like it might just be carrier unlocked not bootloader unlocked
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Rx8Driver said:
It's all about the bootloader....no article is yet to mention the bootloader....nor am i seeing a model number? Sm-n930/5-what?
Honestly, if I'm buying direct from Samsung, I don't expect to be locked out of the device...what firmware will this phone run?
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The Verge said it's an SD820 SoC. An XDA user has already purchased one and this picture says it all:
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This makes sense since the Qualcomm version does CDMA whereas the Exynos doesn't.
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The Verge said it's an SD820 SoC. An XDA user has already purchased one and this picture says it all:
This makes sense since the Qualcomm version does CDMA whereas the Exynos doesn't.
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Yup that says it all...secure boot enabled it was a Longshot anyway smh...
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CafeKampuchia said:
The Verge said it's an SD820 SoC. An XDA user has already purchased one and this picture says it all:
This makes sense since the Qualcomm version does CDMA whereas the Exynos doesn't.
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The S6 is Exynos and does CDMA, as does the Exynos Note 5. Likewise, Qualcomm does CDMA and GSM. CDMA/GSM has nothing to do with it. For the purposes of carrier unlocked phones, it doesn't matter. These SoCs can do either one.
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The S6 is Exynos and does CDMA, as does the Exynos Note 5. Likewise, Qualcomm does CDMA and GSM. CDMA/GSM has nothing to do with it. For the purposes of carrier unlocked phones, it doesn't matter. These SoCs can do either one.
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We're not talking about the S6 or Note5. The Exynos versions of the S7/S7E don't work on CDMA networks. I'd be happy to be proven wrong if you know of someone using a G930F(D)/G935F(D) on Verizon.
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We're not talking about the S6 or Note5. The Exynos versions of the S7/S7E don't work on CDMA networks. I'd be happy to be proven wrong if you know of someone using a G930F(D)/G935F(D) on Verizon.
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Basically my interest here stems from my belief that the note 7 will be in the same exact boat as the s7/e devices, but honestly I'd prefer the exynos anyway, that 8893 with a T880 should be a beast! Plus i love exynos is way more efficient than the QC SoC...at this point, as long as they release an intl bootloader unlocked version (N935F?) I'll be fine with it...
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where can i get the firmware for the g935U, i want to flash it on my G935T to make it unbranded
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We're not talking about the S6 or Note5. The Exynos versions of the S7/S7E don't work on CDMA networks. I'd be happy to be proven wrong if you know of someone using a G930F(D)/G935F(D) on Verizon.
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You're correct, for some reason (probably cost saving) Samsung omitted CDMA support for its Exynos 8890 SoC this year. Apologies. I thought the capability was there but locked out for the US market. I also thought there was a Korean CDMA version of the Exynos, I was wrong.
Dr. Fed said:
You're correct, for some reason (probably cost saving) Samsung omitted CDMA support for its Exynos 8890 SoC this year. Apologies. I thought the capability was there but locked out for the US market. I also thought there was a Korean CDMA version of the Exynos, I was wrong.
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That's a real stand-up post my friend many folks refuse to admit when they're wrong, so this is quite refreshing!
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Yea the exynos based phones seem superior. Qualcomm lost me a couple devices ago, once i used a exynos device I knew I shouldn't go back to a qualcomm chipped samsung, Never again
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I may be late to the party for this one... But from what I'm gathering the s7 edge from tmobile will work for verizon if it's unlocked? I have the option to get a tmobile one but I'm trying to figure out if it'll work with verizon..
Thanks
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mitchluther32 said:
I may be late to the party for this one... But from what I'm gathering the s7 edge from tmobile will work for verizon if it's unlocked? I have the option to get a tmobile one but I'm trying to figure out if it'll work with verizon..
Thanks
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I wouldn't see why not, i have a tmobile variant and it's perfectly capable of connecting to cdma towers, the radios are there...add a sim and you should be good...of course it must be carrier unlocked...
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Received my phone from Vodafone awaiting EE.
The good
Lovely design
Nice large bright screen not as vibrant as Huawei or Samsung but 120hz refresh rate and QHD combo more then makes up for it. Speakers nice clear and loud.
The pain
Single SIM
No theme store
Only ceramic option
Why removes these important features for the UK/EU market? Charge a premium for product with reduced features
Oppo have bizzare policy or is it forced upon them?
riz157 said:
Received my phone from Vodafone awaiting EE.
The good
Lovely design
Nice large bright screen not as vibrant as Huawei or Samsung but 120hz refresh rate and QHD combo more then makes up for it. Speakers nice clear and loud.
The pain
Single SIM
No theme store
Only ceramic option
Why removes these important features for the UK/EU market? Charge a premium for product with reduced features
Oppo have bizzare policy or is it forced upon them?
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should of ordered through carphone warehouse. I have the orange version.
daindian said:
should of ordered through carphone warehouse. I have the orange version.
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Is it dual SIM?
riz157 said:
Is it dual SIM?
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we never get dual sim. the only time I've got a dual sim phone was when I bought a phone from Harrods
daindian said:
we never get dual sim. the only time I've got a dual sim phone was when I bought a phone from Harrods
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There are plenty of dual SIM phones direct from network providers. Huawei oppo Samsung, most flagship ships in 2020.
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There are plenty of dual SIM phones direct from network providers. Huawei oppo Samsung, most flagship ships in 2020.
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have you seen any high end flagships that are dual sim this year? Samsung huawei etc? as far as I know the Samsung s20 series and p40 series are both single sim in the UK. I think the only exception might be the one plus but that's a three exclusive network wise
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have you seen any high end flagships that are dual sim this year? Samsung huawei etc? as far as I know the Samsung s20 series and p40 series are both single sim in the UK. I think the only exception might be the one plus but that's a three exclusive network wise
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I've reviewed every single flagship of 2020 and all of them come with dual SIM and S20 series also has esim option, essentially you could have 2 Sims and one esim. 3 numbers on one phone.
riz157 said:
I've reviewed every single flagship of 2020 and all of them come with dual SIM and S20 series also has esim option, essentially you could have 2 Sims and one esim. 3 numbers on one phone.
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ahh didn't know that. but I can't be dealing with another exynos phone and the lack of no Google on the p40 series affects some of my banking apps here.
Doesn't seem to have proper Google Play certification yet in the UK so unable to download Netflix for instance. This the same for everyone?
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Doesn't seem to have proper Google Play certification yet in the UK so unable to download Netflix for instance. This the same for everyone?
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No issue with Netflix works fine.
So i was not dreaming.. i look everywhere the theme store in my Find X2 pro ! Why don't we have it ? i don't get it
And by the way, i did the test and this phone can play 8K vidéo without any problems ! maybe we will have the ability to shoot in 8K format with just an update as this phone is technically capable of doing it
daindian said:
ahh didn't know that. but I can't be dealing with another exynos phone and the lack of no Google on the p40 series affects some of my banking apps here.
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That is a genuine issue with Samsung and Huawei.
I'm very curious to know how you can get 3 numbers (sim sim esim) on the phones with max 2 IMEI numbers. Can you please enlighten me?
riz157 said:
I've reviewed every single flagship of 2020 and all of them come with dual SIM and S20 series also has esim option, essentially you could have 2 Sims and one esim. 3 numbers on one phone.
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SAO said:
I'm very curious to know how you can get 3 numbers (sim sim esim) on the phones with max 2 IMEI numbers. Can you please enlighten me?
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Adding esim data plan.
Give it a try been reported by others also.
gregou said:
So i was not dreaming.. i look everywhere the theme store in my Find X2 pro ! Why don't we have it ? i don't get it
And by the way, i did the test and this phone can play 8K vidéo without any problems ! maybe we will have the ability to shoot in 8K format with just an update as this phone is technically capable of doing it
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They dont have one for the pro right now.
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Thailand version is Dual-SIM, offered in Black or Orange & can be flashed to EU Rom without loss of dual sim capability... just FYI. I did so without any issue.
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Thailand version is Dual-SIM, offered in Black or Orange & can be flashed to EU Rom without loss of dual sim capability... just FYI. I did so without any issue.
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could you post where you bought it? and the procedure for flashing the EU SW on THAI phone?
Thank you
riz157 said:
Received my phone from Vodafone awaiting EE.
The good
Lovely design
Nice large bright screen not as vibrant as Huawei or Samsung but 120hz refresh rate and QHD combo more then makes up for it. Speakers nice clear and loud.
The pain
Single SIM
No theme store
Only ceramic option
Why removes these important features for the UK/EU market? Charge a premium for product with reduced features
Oppo have bizzare policy or is it forced upon them?
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May I ask?
Is the phone loud when ringing?
Reason I ask, just a bit hard of hearing.
I know that the ringtone sounds louder but not when it's actually taking a call.
Thank you.
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could you post where you bought it? and the procedure for flashing the EU SW on THAI phone?
Thank you
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As far as buying, see the following thread for details:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/find-x2-pro/help/oppo-thailand-global-2025-dual-sim-512gb-t4108975
We used PARCL... It's a buying forwarding service. There's a forwarder named Jon... At least 1 other person beside myself used him and got phone extremely fast (about a week or so)... It does add some cost but well worth it to get 512GB 12GB Dual SIM CPH2025 Version. PARCL is fairly straight forward on how to use...
As far as the flashing goes....
Just download the OTA (I did from UK Oppo Site) and then restart phone in bootloader / fastboot mode... (hold power button / down) , it will ask for language first then ask if you want to use built in storage to apply OTA manually, then find it you download in download folder select it and say yes and it will update. I'm sure some has more thorough instructions out there or on XDA... very easy to do
Biggest thing to remember is that Flashing OTA manually is only allowed if the OTA Build is same age or later version of what is on your phone.... for instance, you can flash .21 PU Thai to .18 EU because both are the May release of google security updates... In my case, I'm on the June security update EU Rom .24, if I wanted to go back to PU, I would have to wait for the equivalent ROM which is .23 PU and be able to download it somewhere completely, I don't believe I can go back to .18 PU at this point since it is older... Any older version will start to flash onto phone but will error out before anything is altered on the phone by Oppo for not being the same revision or newer..
hope that makes it clear as mud..... :laugh:
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As far as buying, see the following thread for details:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/find-x2-pro/help/oppo-thailand-global-2025-dual-sim-512gb-t4108975
We used PARCL... It's a buying forwarding service. There's a forwarder named Jon... At least 1 other person beside myself used him and got phone extremely fast (about a week or so)... It does add some cost but well worth it to get 512GB 12GB Dual SIM CPH2025 Version. PARCL is fairly straight forward on how to use...
As far as the flashing goes....
Just download the OTA (I did from UK Oppo Site) and then restart phone in bootloader / fastboot mode... (hold power button / down) , it will ask for language first then ask if you want to use built in storage to apply OTA manually, then find it you download in download folder select it and say yes and it will update. I'm sure some has more thorough instructions out there or on XDA... very easy to do
Biggest thing to remember is that Flashing OTA manually is only allowed if the OTA Build is same age or later version of what is on your phone.... for instance, you can flash .21 PU Thai to .18 EU because both are the May release of google security updates... In my case, I'm on the June security update EU Rom .24, if I wanted to go back to PU, I would have to wait for the equivalent ROM which is .23 PU and be able to download it somewhere completely, I don't believe I can go back to .18 PU at this point since it is older... Any older version will start to flash onto phone but will error out before anything is altered on the phone by Oppo for not being the same revision or newer..
hope that makes it clear as mud..... :laugh:
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have you the your shop direct link for the 512GB 12GB Dual SIM CPH2025 Version??? too many models present on the JD site... (PM me the link if posting here is forbidden by the forum rules)
I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S10e from Amazon that was specifically supposed to be an unlocked T-Mobile refurbished phone, so I figured I would be getting a G970U. When the phone showed up yesterday, it turns out it's a G970F. It has a CSC code of TPA, so it appears it's Panamanian. But, I put my T-Mobile SIM in it and everything seems to be working just fine. I called the T-Mobile software support people, who made a few tweaks so that it's supposed to work on their network now. But, when I looked up the differences in the frequencies/bands that the two different phones support, there ARE some differences. I'm not really sure if this will make any difference in how well it works or not. That's my main concern here. Otherwise, the phone looks like new and the battery is in great shape.
The other differences are that it's a dual-sim phone, which is a nice feature. And then there's the fact that it's got the Exynos 9820 processor instead of the Snapdragon. Not really sure that's an issue or not. I'm not looking to root the phone, so I don't think it makes a lot of difference to me. My main issue is to be able to make/receive calls and use data in various locations, some places where T-Mobile's network isn't as strong or built-out.
I've got 90 days to return the phone, so I'll have plenty of time to check things out, but I'd really like to know if the frequency differences are going to be a problem. The T-Mobile person I was on the phone with didn't think it would, but then again, I don't think she knew much about the international versions of these phones. So I'd like to hear from people who know a lot more about these Samsung phones and the differences between the two versions.
My model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA, my baseband version is G970XX56CTE6, my firmware's CSC code shows as DBT and my active CSC code shows as TPA. Android Version 10 / SDK29
Any advice would be appreciated and TIA.
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I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S10e from Amazon that was specifically supposed to be an unlocked T-Mobile refurbished phone, so I figured I would be getting a G970U. When the phone showed up yesterday, it turns out it's a G970F. It has a CSC code of TPA, so it appears it's Panamanian. But, I put my T-Mobile SIM in it and everything seems to be working just fine. I called the T-Mobile software support people, who made a few tweaks so that it's supposed to work on their network now. But, when I looked up the differences in the frequencies/bands that the two different phones support, there ARE some differences. I'm not really sure if this will make any difference in how well it works or not. That's my main concern here. Otherwise, the phone looks like new and the battery is in great shape.
The other differences are that it's a dual-sim phone, which is a nice feature. And then there's the fact that it's got the Exynos 9820 processor instead of the Snapdragon. Not really sure that's an issue or not. I'm not looking to root the phone, so I don't think it makes a lot of difference to me. My main issue is to be able to make/receive calls and use data in various locations, some places where T-Mobile's network isn't as strong or built-out.
I've got 90 days to return the phone, so I'll have plenty of time to check things out, but I'd really like to know if the frequency differences are going to be a problem. The T-Mobile person I was on the phone with didn't think it would, but then again, I don't think she knew much about the international versions of these phones. So I'd like to hear from people who know a lot more about these Samsung phones and the differences between the two versions.
My model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA, my baseband version is G970XX56CTE6, my firmware's CSC code shows as DBT and my active CSC code shows as TPA. Android Version 10 / SDK29
Any advice would be appreciated and TIA.
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I have the SM-G970U and I am wishing I had the G970F. As far as I can see there is not much difference in the frequency bands. From the G970U for T-Mobile to the G970F there's a few bands difference. Also I believe you have the G970U/DS for Dual Sim, which is from Asia (India, Singapore). You can see the differences here.....ok nm, I can't post links. So google, "techwalls.c0m" and "G970 differences". You should see the site.
Hope that helps, best of luck!
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I have the SM-G970U and I am wishing I had the G970F. As far as I can see there is not much difference in the frequency bands. From the G970U for T-Mobile to the G970F there's a few bands difference. Also I believe you have the G970U/DS for Dual Sim, which is from Asia (India, Singapore). You can see the differences here.....ok nm, I can't post links. So google, "techwalls.c0m" and "G970 differences". You should see the site.
Hope that helps, best of luck!
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Thanks for the reply. I had seen that site and the differences in bands and that's what made me ask if anyone has seen any difference in the two versions of the phone. Yes, I have either the dual sim version or the hybrid SIM, I'm not really sure since I can't find my exact model on that site. I can see that the phone was made in China and its CSC country is Panama. I can put either 2 SIM cards in the phone or one SIM card and an SD storage card (which is how I have it set up). The full model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA and that model isn't listed on the website that shows what frequencies each model can access. I was on the phone with a T-Mobile tech person when I was setting it up and she had me make a few changes to be sure I was using T-Mobile's LTE network, but I don't think she really knew much about what frequency bands I might need and not have. That's why I asked here.
I'm planning on going to my parents' next week, where T-Mobile's service isn't that great, so I'm hoping that will be a really good test for this phone. Otherwise, it seems to be working just fine for me, although it's hard for me to know if I'm getting full access in the city, where all the bands my phone has are probably supported. Maybe I should look for an app that can tell me what frequencies are available and whether my phone is able to connect, hmmmm. Anybody know of a good app like that?
Thanks so much for the reply.
I downloaded an app called Samsung Band Selection so that I could see what bands my phone actually has. When I compare the bands/frequencies that the app shows I have to what bands T-Mobile has, it looks like I'm missing two bands. One is the 4G FDD LTE band of B71(600MHz). The other band I'm missing is the 4G TDD LTE band of B46(5200). Does anyone know what issues there might be if this phone doesn't have the capability to connect to those two bands?
If you're planning on using the S10e phone on T-Mobile in the USA, get a G970U.
Just look at users in the US Samsung Community forum complaining about issues about their international G970F that G970U owners do not have, that have no immediate resolution.
The T-Mobile S10e models have a model number that end with TMB. I use a pre-owned, T-Mobile carrier-unlocked, Samsung Galaxy S10e.
Just my $0.02
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If you're planning on using the S10e phone on T-Mobile in the USA, get a G970U.
Just look at users in the US Samsung Community forum complaining about issues about their international G970F that G970U owners do not have, that have no immediate resolution.
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I tried to find threads from users of the G970F to see if they were having problems, but didn't find much here. Maybe I don't know where to look, but so far, I'm having zero problems with this phone. Even in an area where T-Mobile doesn't have a great presence, my reception and data access was fine. I've been on the phone with T-Mobile representatives, who had me do a little tweaking when I first got the phone and I've talked to them about the 2 bandwidths that I'm missing on this phone and I don't think that's going to be a problem.
I'll check again to see if I can search out the problems you're talking about, but this phone seems to be working just fine. If I'm missing something, please point me to the right posts, though.
Thanks for the reply.
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I tried to find threads from users of the G970F to see if they were having problems, but didn't find much here.
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See https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/bd-p/Gethelp-GalaxyS10 and search for G970F or the international models.
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See https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/bd-p/Gethelp-GalaxyS10 and search for G970F or the international models.
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Yeah, I went there after re-reading your last message. When I search for G970F, I find 4 threads which I don't think are going to be problems for me. Unfortunately, when I try to search for "international S10e", the search brings up hundreds of threads that have "internal" in it, rather than "international", so I'm unable to search for just my model. Apparently, their search algorithm isn't the greatest. It sounded like the biggest problem might be the fingerprint sensor not working so well after a recent upgrade. I don't plan on using the fingerprint sensor and it was just one person with the problem, so I don't know how widespread that might be.
Thanks again for the reply.
The G970U has an FM Radio that is enabled. I have verified that it works:
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I saw that difference online, as well. I'm not really sure where to look in order to verify, but from what little I've looked, I don't think it has the FM radio receiver. Not that I have a need for it, but someone else might, so always good to point that out, thanks. I would use the dual-sim capability more than an FM radio, so I'm willing to live without built-in radio. If you tell me where to look, I will verify for sure for others who might be interested.
My SM-G970UZBATMB (T-Mobile s10e) is on Build QP1A.190711.020.G970USQS4DTF6 now (7/2020).
Did your G970F get that update too?
See:
1. https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G970U/TMB/doc.html
2. https://www.t-mobile.com/support/de...axy-s10e/software-updates-samsung-galaxy-s10e
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Mine updated a week or so ago to Build QP1A.190711.020.G970FXXS7CTG1. My Baseband version is now G970FXXS7CTF3.
I have the unlocked S22 Ultra running on T-Mobile. Got the May update last month on 5/25 so it seems like it should be due by now.
Got my June update yesterday on my S22u - T-Moble (locked).
The Verizon update came out last week. I got it on 6/13
Nope
got mine 2 days ago (tmo locked)
STILL don't have a wifi calling icon on the status bar.
I don't use the ESIM, maybe thats the issue.
And i wont use the ESIM
Why the update is so late in the US?
Mobile operators?
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Why the update is so late in the US?
Mobile operators?
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Probably not. My daughter's S22 is unlocked. She got the May update after I got it. I have the S22 Ultra Verizon. Her update came from Samsung.
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I have the unlocked S22 Ultra running on T-Mobile. Got the May update last month on 5/25 so it seems like it should be due by now.
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As of this posting, the US Unlocked/carrier free version (XAA) hasn't been updated for June 2022:
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Exynos phones will be getting the July update later this week. US carriers got June over a week ago. Unlocked in the US still hasn't gotten June. Wtf is going on here? God I miss pixel updates.
Unlocked in Canada. Received the June update on the 14th.
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Exynos phones will be getting the July update later this week. US carriers got June over a week ago. Unlocked in the US still hasn't gotten June. Wtf is going on here? God I miss pixel updates.
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Do you miss the Pixel phone?
Verizon got it on the 18th software update 5. But I've been having to download the play system updates.
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Do you miss the Pixel phone?
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Yes and no. Google has been pushing out features that no one knew they needed, and most are pretty badass. You can root without losing the warranty, and you get updates and new OS launches on day one. Those things were hard to leave. However, I've always had to root my pixels. Google doesn't give you hardly any customization options. The fonts suck, and you can't install any others, no icon packs unless you use a different launcher, and with A12, they gave us a whole 4 colors to choose from. Four, awful, awful colors. I was able to change them with root thankfully though. They REALLY need to get on the full customization train. If they did, I'd go back, but for now, I don't see myself getting another pixel anytime soon. And don't get me started on the pixel 6 pro.. Total piece lol. The main reason why I switched.
S22U1 Got tired of waiting so flashed it over to carrier Xfinity Mobile got mine over a week ago no noticeable difference except the carrier boot screen
Just got it on unlocked S22U on T-mobile.
The U.S. Unlocked model getting it now.
Unlocked on Sprint/T-Mobile and downloading the update now.
Got mine too. Finally. Wonder why the unlocked US versions are among the last to get it?
I thought I read something earlier that the June update included improvements to the camera. I guess not.
Just tried to update apps in the Galaxy Store app, and all the Update button does is cause the screen to sort of jump up then back down without updating the apps. Didn't do that before the June security update. Anyone else have this problem?
I decided to try signing out of my Samsung account, then sign back in, but nothing happens now except an error message that says "IMEI or MEID empty." What gives?
Hello, I have a few questions about the Odin updates, how does it work? Can I flash the SM-S908U/SM-S908U1 firmware on my device? I have the canadian version of the s22 ultra, is there any risk? Do I need to factory reset? And will I get new canada/US Ota updates? Or will I need to manually flash every time after that?
Wait for the OTA update. It will arrive any day now.
Have faith. Good thing Fido announces OTA updates on your region early while other regions are no idea when they will get it.
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Also, as per check, your phone has a different variant compared to the US.
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Have faith. Good thing Fido announces OTA updates on your region early while other regions are no idea when they will get it. View attachment 5753133
Fido OS Upgrade Schedule
Also, as per check, your phone has a different variant compared to the US.
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Good info I just switched to Fido from Koodo today.
Getting annoyed waiting for it on this model
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Getting annoyed waiting for it on this model View attachment 5753169
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Well, you're not alone. Next year, I'll be doing an exchange for the next predecessor and far away from anything HK version of S23 Ultra. Of course, that will happen after I find the next iteration appealing else, I might try iPhone or most likely Pixel 8 pro.
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Well, you're not alone. Next year, I'll be doing an exchange for the next predecessor and far away from anything HK version of S23 Ultra. Of course, that will happen after I find the next iteration appealing else, I might try iPhone or most likely Pixel 8 pro.
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I'll be getting uk s23 ultra as it'll be snapdragon
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I'll be getting uk s23 ultra as it'll be snapdragon
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As long as it's not HK version, you won't regret it! It feels like we're left at the bottom of the well whilst others have been given strong thighs to jump off. I find it surprising being this is one of Asia versions. One would think it'll at least have a slight edge over other versions of this model.
Exactly, so unfair, I keep looking on check firm app and there's a 2 new test builds in the last week. Are they looking to give us a more stable release when we get one ui 5 or something
Im also on 9080 cause germany has the ****ty exynos. Will get the s23u...
Just a heads up to the Canadian users. Rogers/Fido have pushed back the One UI 5 upgrade from Nov 05 to Nov 21.
I suspect the rest of the major carriers will have a similar release date.
This thread is specific to the SM-908W........
Seriously, there's no way to use the Odin for the SM-S908U/UI? That's just stupid
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-series-s20-note20-s21-had-no-issues.4408193/
It'll be end of the month for the update
I have both Fold 4/S22 Ultra W Series 1TB. I used this thread to enable all 5G bands and flashed the XAA U1 software on both phones.
I have Android 13 on s22 Ultra with TMB U1 software and 5G on Telus.
Note: you will have to factory reset before you ODIN the BL/AP/CP/CSC (not the home one) so BACK UP FIRST.
The reward for my W series phones:
s22 Ultra 5G on Telus using XAA U1 software (I purposely flashed Android 12 from 3 months ago to test updates; I let it update and still had 5G on Telus; I then flashed the TMB U1 to get Android 13 and still have 5G on Telus).
Fold 4 still running XAA U1 Software with 5G on Telus.
How to Enable All Bands Through Service Menu on US/CA S22 series (including Sub-6 and mmWave)
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hand-filer said:
Just a heads up to the Canadian users. Rogers/Fido have pushed back the One UI 5 upgrade from Nov 05 to Nov 21.
I suspect the rest of the major carriers will have a similar release date.
This thread is specific to the SM-908W........
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As per the Rogers/Fido update schedule my phone received the UI 5 upgrade this morning.
I would assume most carriers will follow suit.