So Samsung has decided to release unlocked version of the s7 & S7 edge the works on all carries in the U.S. I wonder if the bootloader is locked?????
http://www.androidbeat.com/2016/06/unlocked-galaxy-s7-edge-available-united-states/
I was just about to create this same thread. It looks like Tmobile heard everyone. this is straight from them. Basically if you want an unlocked phone there is an option for that now.
http://www.tmonews.com/2016/06/unlocked-samsung-galaxy-s7-s7-edge-launching-today-u-s/
ShrekOpher said:
I was just about to create this same thread. It looks like Tmobile heard everyone. this is straight from them. Basically if you want an unlocked phone there is an option for that now.
http://www.tmonews.com/2016/06/unlocked-samsung-galaxy-s7-s7-edge-launching-today-u-s/
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That's so freaking awesome, I know AT&T & Verizon will do everything in it's power to prevent us from getting an unlocked bootloader. Now is sucks because I want to buy and unlocked version but the Note 7 is dropping in roughly 45 days...
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That's so freaking awesome, I know AT&T & Verizon will do everything in it's power to prevent us from getting an unlocked bootloader. Now is sucks because I want to buy and unlocked version but the Note 7 is dropping in roughly 45 days...
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Might be worth holding out until October to get the Note 7. My guess is that there will be an unlocked model that gets released by then as well.
So will the bootloader finally be unlocked now?
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So will the bootloader finally be unlocked now?
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Probably not. Same SD820 SoC as the carrier-locked versions.
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...galaxy-s7-edge-unlocked-us-price-availability
It's all about the bootloader....no article is yet to mention the bootloader....nor am i seeing a model number? Sm-n930/5-what?
Honestly, if I'm buying direct from Samsung, I don't expect to be locked out of the device...what firmware will this phone run?
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This is hilarious considering I tweeted to T-Mobile yesterday asking them nicely to take my phone back since I bought the pre-order without knowing Jack about the boot loader situation and that their CEO hasn't updated us either.
Looks like it might just be carrier unlocked not bootloader unlocked
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Rx8Driver said:
It's all about the bootloader....no article is yet to mention the bootloader....nor am i seeing a model number? Sm-n930/5-what?
Honestly, if I'm buying direct from Samsung, I don't expect to be locked out of the device...what firmware will this phone run?
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The Verge said it's an SD820 SoC. An XDA user has already purchased one and this picture says it all:
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This makes sense since the Qualcomm version does CDMA whereas the Exynos doesn't.
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The Verge said it's an SD820 SoC. An XDA user has already purchased one and this picture says it all:
This makes sense since the Qualcomm version does CDMA whereas the Exynos doesn't.
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Yup that says it all...secure boot enabled it was a Longshot anyway smh...
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CafeKampuchia said:
The Verge said it's an SD820 SoC. An XDA user has already purchased one and this picture says it all:
This makes sense since the Qualcomm version does CDMA whereas the Exynos doesn't.
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The S6 is Exynos and does CDMA, as does the Exynos Note 5. Likewise, Qualcomm does CDMA and GSM. CDMA/GSM has nothing to do with it. For the purposes of carrier unlocked phones, it doesn't matter. These SoCs can do either one.
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The S6 is Exynos and does CDMA, as does the Exynos Note 5. Likewise, Qualcomm does CDMA and GSM. CDMA/GSM has nothing to do with it. For the purposes of carrier unlocked phones, it doesn't matter. These SoCs can do either one.
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We're not talking about the S6 or Note5. The Exynos versions of the S7/S7E don't work on CDMA networks. I'd be happy to be proven wrong if you know of someone using a G930F(D)/G935F(D) on Verizon.
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We're not talking about the S6 or Note5. The Exynos versions of the S7/S7E don't work on CDMA networks. I'd be happy to be proven wrong if you know of someone using a G930F(D)/G935F(D) on Verizon.
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Basically my interest here stems from my belief that the note 7 will be in the same exact boat as the s7/e devices, but honestly I'd prefer the exynos anyway, that 8893 with a T880 should be a beast! Plus i love exynos is way more efficient than the QC SoC...at this point, as long as they release an intl bootloader unlocked version (N935F?) I'll be fine with it...
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where can i get the firmware for the g935U, i want to flash it on my G935T to make it unbranded
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We're not talking about the S6 or Note5. The Exynos versions of the S7/S7E don't work on CDMA networks. I'd be happy to be proven wrong if you know of someone using a G930F(D)/G935F(D) on Verizon.
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You're correct, for some reason (probably cost saving) Samsung omitted CDMA support for its Exynos 8890 SoC this year. Apologies. I thought the capability was there but locked out for the US market. I also thought there was a Korean CDMA version of the Exynos, I was wrong.
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You're correct, for some reason (probably cost saving) Samsung omitted CDMA support for its Exynos 8890 SoC this year. Apologies. I thought the capability was there but locked out for the US market. I also thought there was a Korean CDMA version of the Exynos, I was wrong.
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That's a real stand-up post my friend many folks refuse to admit when they're wrong, so this is quite refreshing!
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Yea the exynos based phones seem superior. Qualcomm lost me a couple devices ago, once i used a exynos device I knew I shouldn't go back to a qualcomm chipped samsung, Never again
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I may be late to the party for this one... But from what I'm gathering the s7 edge from tmobile will work for verizon if it's unlocked? I have the option to get a tmobile one but I'm trying to figure out if it'll work with verizon..
Thanks
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I may be late to the party for this one... But from what I'm gathering the s7 edge from tmobile will work for verizon if it's unlocked? I have the option to get a tmobile one but I'm trying to figure out if it'll work with verizon..
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I wouldn't see why not, i have a tmobile variant and it's perfectly capable of connecting to cdma towers, the radios are there...add a sim and you should be good...of course it must be carrier unlocked...
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So, I'm in the US. I use Straight Talk which uses ATT bands. I do want to get an S7 that will work with my provider. I understand that it would have to either be the ATT model, or the International version.
Where exactly can you buy the international version? Also, will it include the free Gear VR? Also, are there any downsides to getting the international version? Is it still possible to get support in the US for the international model?
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So, I'm in the US. I use Straight Talk which uses ATT bands. I do want to get an S7 that will work with my provider. I understand that it would have to either be the ATT model, or the International version.
Where exactly can you buy the international version? Also, will it include the free Gear VR? Also, are there any downsides to getting the international version? Is it still possible to get support in the US for the international model?
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You could probably buy it off from Amazon/Ebay or some other site. I'm not sure how often International versions get updated so that could be a downside. As of right now the only way to get the bonus Gear VR is preordering with a carrier, meaning no, you will miss out on the bonus if you want an international unlocked version.
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So, I'm in the US. I use Straight Talk which uses ATT bands. I do want to get an S7 that will work with my provider. I understand that it would have to either be the ATT model, or the International version.
Where exactly can you buy the international version? Also, will it include the free Gear VR? Also, are there any downsides to getting the international version? Is it still possible to get support in the US for the international model?
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Last I checked, you can get the Unlocked version from BestBuy.
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Last I checked, you can get the Unlocked version from BestBuy.
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You can't get it Unlocked from BestBuy, at least not right now, maybe after the launch and it would still be the US version not European.
Edit: Europe Unlocked S7 and S7 Edge are now available for preorder with a free speaker and a case.
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s7-sim-free-p-84948.html
£549.98 inc VAT £458.32 ex VAT (if I'm not mistaken VAT doesn't apply to us in the US but I could be mistaken.
You can using Amazon
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You can't get it Unlocked from BestBuy, at least not right now, maybe after the launch and it would still be the US version not European.
Edit: Europe Unlocked S7 and S7 Edge are now available for preorder with a free speaker and a case.
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s7-sim-free-p-84948.html
£549.98 inc VAT £458.32 ex VAT (if I'm not mistaken VAT doesn't apply to us in the US but I could be mistaken.
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why would you want an European version with an exynos proc instead of SD820 ??
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why would you want an European version with an exynos proc instead of SD820 ??
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Because one must choose the lesser of two evils... Exynos or... bloated with apps, and carrier boot logo, and having to find someone that can buy the phone and have their carrier unlock it. I called T-Mobile and they told me the phone must be with them (attached to someone's plan) for 7 days for them to unlock it.
I don't have any friends with T-Mobile and I live in South America, so I haven't got many options...
Hi. I just want to be clear... none of the Snapdragon variants have LTE band 28? No even t-mobile? I live in Panama and we have LTE on that band...
Chale
exploreresp said:
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I don't, I would prefer SD820 but I was listing it for some guy who was asking about it.
Samsung stores in canada sell "unlocked" phones, it gets locked to the first sim card but an unlock code is provided.
clove.co.uk is taking pre-orders for an International unlocked SD820 version. Wonder if it's a typo?
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clove.co.uk is taking pre-orders for an International unlocked SD820 version. Wonder if it's a typo?
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why would you want an European version with an exynos proc instead of SD820 ??
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Why not???
clove or handtec will ship to US and the prices are pretty decent. Cheaper than buying full price here in US. Make sure you read everything clove has to say about it though. There is a warning about Samsung locking their phones.
Simply use Amazon.de. They have a fully translated webpage (here is the link) and also the awesome customer service known from Amazon in English.
I am in the USA and I am on Cricket Wireless. So I have to buy the phone at full retail price. AT&T said that they will unlock it for me if I buy it at full retail price.
So I don't know if I should go with the Snapdragon or the Exynos version.
The Snapdragon version is about $700 from AT&T. While the Exynos version is $584.98 from amazon. The Exynos version is also the international version and I do go to Europe, Japan, and New Zealand. I don't need the LTE bands. 18mbps on HSPA+ plus is good enough for what I need. I just need it for directions and web browsing.
My biggest concern is which model is the most third party ROM compatible. If I buy this phone then I need to keep it for several years; and let's be honest most Android vendors don't really update their phones. So at some point I will need to put a third party ROM on it to extend the phones life.
The SuperMan-Rom appears to be the popular third party ROM for the S7. Is the SuperMan-ROM compatible with the S7 (non-Edge)?
So based all on of these variables which S7 model should I buy?
Thanks in advance!
The snapdragon just got root like 2 weeks ago so we don't even have a recovery module yet nor a truly unlocked bootloader, if I were you, I would get a international model because development is not hindered by a carrier which should mean much more options down the road
Don't buy the crappy useless carrier version. Buy the exynos version(SM-G930F) if Samsung pay is not important. But if you need US warranty and Samsung pay then Samsung released the official US unlocked version (SM-G930U snapdragon) last week. I would choose between one of these since you are anyway paying full price. Don't buy the crippled carrier version with their ugly logos and crap.
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1.Use swappa.com. Both versions are under 500 there.
2. I have owned both on tmobile. Other than volte/wifi/video calling features, the international model is better, with superior battery life and similar performance.
3. Us models have us warranties which may be worthwhile to you.
4.That being said, I'm using a tmobile phone now as root (beta) has arrived. Long-term, a snapdragon 820 will have better support as the chipset is universally used on the 2016 flagship phones. In July 2016, that is not yet the case.
5. The superman rom works on the 930f. I have used it without issue (as I have done with other roms)
Go for the Exynos variant and **** the carrriers. I have one and is bootloader unlockable, so I have the peace-of-mind of knowing I can install a custom rom when Samsung ends all support in two years. I also have Cricket as my carrier and it works great, I get LTE, but the status bar will only show 4g since I have the united arab emirate firmware, and I assume they don't use LTE over there. You can also intall the samsung pay apk on the UAE variant, as long as it is the 2.0.36 version or older. The latest updated version has disable samsung pay for this variant.
kirdroid said:
Don't buy the crappy useless carrier version. Buy the exynos version(SM-G930F) if Samsung pay is not important. But if you need US warranty and Samsung pay then Samsung released the official US unlocked version (SM-G930U snapdragon) last week. I would choose between one of these since you are anyway paying full price. Don't buy the crippled carrier version with their ugly logos and crap.
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Do you know if the FM radio receiver is enabled on the SM-G930U ?
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Do you know if the FM radio receiver is enabled on the SM-G930U ?
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Never use FM radio, how do I check if it's enabled?
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kirdroid said:
Never use FM radio, how do I check if it's enabled?
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First, see if you can download and install the NextRadio app from Google Play. If the NextRadio app page says that it's not supported on your device, you can get the apk here: http://apk-dl.com/nextradio-free-fm-radio
Once installed, just launch the app. NextRadio will pop up with a pretty screen telling you that your device doesn't support it if that's the case. But if it does work, you'll be prompted to plug in your headphones to serve as the FM antenna. It will then apprise you of all local FM broadcast stations in your area and, if you like, allow you to use manual tuning mode.
I'll be very interested to learn what happens.
Thanks
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First, see if you can download and install the NextRadio app from Google Play. If the NextRadio app page says that it's not supported on your device, you can get the apk here: http://apk-dl.com/nextradio-free-fm-radio
Once installed, just launch the app. NextRadio will pop up with a pretty screen telling you that your device doesn't support it if that's the case. But if it does work, you'll be prompted to plug in your headphones to serve as the FM antenna. It will then apprise you of all local FM broadcast stations in your area and, if you like, allow you to use manual tuning mode.
I'll be very interested to learn what happens.
Thanks
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Downloaded from Google play but not compatible.
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Downloaded from Google play but not compatible.
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Hmm . That may mean that the hardware is there but that it's disabled in the firmware - because we know it works on the US carrier-sold snapdragon versions. There's a lot of speculation about whether it's disabled at the hardware level or the firmware level on the exynos models... no one really seems to know for sure. In any case, thanks for testing it!
Edit:By the way, who is your cellular service through? A rep at Samsung's telephone tech support told me that the service provider must enable a proximity port for NextRadio to access the chip's receiver circuit. I know that NextRadio just works out of the box with locked S7's from Sprint, T-Mobile, or AT&T.
clonk said:
Hmm . That may mean that the hardware is there but that it's disabled in the firmware - because we know it works on the US carrier-sold snapdragon versions. There's a lot of speculation about whether it's disabled at the hardware level or the firmware level on the exynos models... no one really seems to know for sure. In any case, thanks for testing it!
Edit:By the way, who is your cellular service through? A rep at Samsung's telephone tech support told me that the service provider must enable a proximity port for NextRadio to access the chip's receiver circuit. I know that NextRadio just works out of the box with locked S7's from Sprint, T-Mobile, or AT&T.
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I use it on T-Mobile
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I use it on T-Mobile
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Okay, thanks. I also have T-Mobile and I too get the same screen when I try to use NextRadio on my SM-G930F. And T-Mobile claims to support NextRadio and the FM chip function on phones purchased through them. So I dunno.
So, the only difference between the European and US version is the chipset, samsung pay and the radio?
How would it work with the warranty? I am currently living in Europe, so I would buy a European version, what if I move to the States in the next year and something happens to the phone - isn't Samsung's warranty worldwide?
jetscreamer001 said:
Go for the Exynos variant and **** the carrriers. I have one and is bootloader unlockable, so I have the peace-of-mind of knowing I can install a custom rom when Samsung ends all support in two years. I also have Cricket as my carrier and it works great, I get LTE, but the status bar will only show 4g since I have the united arab emirate firmware, and I assume they don't use LTE over there. You can also intall the samsung pay apk on the UAE variant, as long as it is the 2.0.36 version or older. The latest updated version has disable samsung pay for this variant.
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Major thanks!
I forgot to mention you should also install the older samsung pay framework, like the june version. Don't install the latest.
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Major thanks!
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Also install the old samsung pay framework apk and not the latest. I suggest the june version.
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Also install the old samsung pay framework apk and not the latest. I suggest the june version.
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How do I install the samsung pay framework apk?
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How do I install the samsung pay framework apk?
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Just download from apkmirror.com and install it. They have a list of all apk, but I am using the june version just to be safe.
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Just download from apkmirror.com and install it. They have a list of all apk, but I am using the june version just to be safe.
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Thanks! :good:
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I forgot to mention you should also install the older samsung pay framework, like the june version. Don't install the latest.
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Also install the old samsung pay framework apk and not the latest. I suggest the june version.
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So you can download the samsung pay apk and use it on the exynos version here in the states?
I tried this about a week or 2 after it first came out and wouldn't work
Will try again in a few days when I have the phone again
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So you can download the samsung pay apk and use it on the exynos version here in the states?
I tried this about a week or 2 after it first came out and wouldn't work
Will try again in a few days when I have the phone again
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It only work if your device is on the United Arab Emirate firmware. Use SP 2.0.36 and SPF 2.3.03. It works for me.
So... Where are you guys pre-ordering your phone in Canada?
Bestbuy has it starting at midnight but they only offer phones locked to carriers.
I called Costco because they sell unlocked phones but they didn't have any information about pre-orders.
Edit: Pre-ordered the S8+ Midnight Black directly from Samsung.
CAD $ 1,290.10 with shipping and taxes.
Model SM-G955W
Free Gear VR with Controller.
I wish I had the choice between the Gear VR or Gear 360 camera. I would have chosen then camera.
I am also interested in the variant we will getting. Eg. is it the Snapdragon or Exynos?
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I am also interested in the variant we will getting. Eg. is it the Snapdragon or Exynos?
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Most likely the exynos, funny how they never mentioned either cpu just a 10nm cpu.
Confirmed with a Rogers rep and Mobile Syrup. We're getting the Snapdragon 835. Press F to pay respects.
Greetings,
Just placed the pre-order at the Samsung online store for an S8+/ Midnite Black. $1267 CDN, ouch!!
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Confirmed with a Rogers rep and Mobile Syrup. We're getting the Snapdragon 835. Press F to pay respects.
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When the s7 was announced we were told the same story that we're getting the snapdragon, in the end we got the exynos, i wouldn't put too much faith into a rogers rep.
I guess it's time to return my Note 7 now :victory:
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When the s7 was announced we were told the same story that we're getting the snapdragon, in the end we got the exynos, i wouldn't put too much faith into a rogers rep.
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If you recall, the Note 7 came with the Snapdragon in Canada as well. I'd say it's legit.
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When the s7 was announced we were told the same story that we're getting the snapdragon, in the end we got the exynos, i wouldn't put too much faith into a rogers rep.
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MobileSyrup reported that Samsung Canada has told them we will get the Snapdragon CPU. I hope to get one on preorder tomorrow from Rogers. I just wish Canadian carriers would enable the FM radio functionality. I have it on my S7 Edge that I bought from AT&T last year so I know it can be enabled.
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So just came back from the Samsung Experience Store at Sherway where the S8 and + are on display...Gorgeous !
Preordered the Orchid Grey S8+
Was told majority ordered S8+ and in black
Disappointed that Arctic Silver not being offered but over the moon that it may be coming earlier for Samsung store preorder (between April 17-21)
Same free Gear VR and controller bundle included
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So just came back from the Samsung Experience Store at Sherway where the S8 and + are on display...Gorgeous !
Preordered the Orchid Grey S8+
Was told majority ordered S8+ and in black
Disappointed that Arctic Silver not being offered but over the moon that it may be coming earlier for Samsung store preorder (between April 17-21)
Same free Gear VR and controller bundle included
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It says model no. SM-G55XU
Do you know what processor it has ?
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If you recall, the Note 7 came with the Snapdragon in Canada as well. I'd say it's legit.
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No i don't recall... lol i had to, i didn't pay much attention to the note 7 release. Was the bootloader unlocked in canada?
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MobileSyrup reported that Samsung Canada has told them we will get the Snapdragon CPU. I hope to get one on preorder tomorrow from Rogers.
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Then i hope the bootloader is unlocked.
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It says model no. SM-G55XU
Do you know what processor it has ?
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X means demo and U means unlocked, kinda like the s7 g930u in the US which is unlocked, odds are that is a snapdragon.
My preorder says SM-G950WZKAXAC so who knows.
Just wanted to give an update.
Checked using Aida64 app
Snapdragon 835 confirmed
Also front and rear cameras using Sony sensors
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I have a Pixel XL. Thinking about doing an early upgrade for Bell from Best Buy. Just something about that sexy body. Lol. I hope this smooth and fast. I had some lags on my Note 7.
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MobileSyrup reported that Samsung Canada has told them we will get the Snapdragon CPU. I hope to get one on preorder tomorrow from Rogers. I just wish Canadian carriers would enable the FM radio functionality. I have it on my S7 Edge that I bought from AT&T last year so I know it can be enabled.
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FM radio? What year are you from? LOL
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Brava27 said:
FM radio? What year are you from? LOL
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Some people still listen to the radio, why do you care? Does it bother you that I like to listen to it?
Swordfish
Sword Fish said:
Some people still listen to the radio, why do you care? Does it bother you that I like to listen to it?
Swordfish
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Nope. That's what tunein radio is for.
Brava27 said:
Nope. That's what tunein radio is for.
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Does it work without data?
peachpuff said:
Does it work without data?
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Why spend $1k+ on an S8 if you're not going to use data? ??
Brava27 said:
Why spend $1k+ on an S8 if you're not going to use data? ??
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There are places where there is no network and fm radio comes in handy.
I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S10e from Amazon that was specifically supposed to be an unlocked T-Mobile refurbished phone, so I figured I would be getting a G970U. When the phone showed up yesterday, it turns out it's a G970F. It has a CSC code of TPA, so it appears it's Panamanian. But, I put my T-Mobile SIM in it and everything seems to be working just fine. I called the T-Mobile software support people, who made a few tweaks so that it's supposed to work on their network now. But, when I looked up the differences in the frequencies/bands that the two different phones support, there ARE some differences. I'm not really sure if this will make any difference in how well it works or not. That's my main concern here. Otherwise, the phone looks like new and the battery is in great shape.
The other differences are that it's a dual-sim phone, which is a nice feature. And then there's the fact that it's got the Exynos 9820 processor instead of the Snapdragon. Not really sure that's an issue or not. I'm not looking to root the phone, so I don't think it makes a lot of difference to me. My main issue is to be able to make/receive calls and use data in various locations, some places where T-Mobile's network isn't as strong or built-out.
I've got 90 days to return the phone, so I'll have plenty of time to check things out, but I'd really like to know if the frequency differences are going to be a problem. The T-Mobile person I was on the phone with didn't think it would, but then again, I don't think she knew much about the international versions of these phones. So I'd like to hear from people who know a lot more about these Samsung phones and the differences between the two versions.
My model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA, my baseband version is G970XX56CTE6, my firmware's CSC code shows as DBT and my active CSC code shows as TPA. Android Version 10 / SDK29
Any advice would be appreciated and TIA.
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I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S10e from Amazon that was specifically supposed to be an unlocked T-Mobile refurbished phone, so I figured I would be getting a G970U. When the phone showed up yesterday, it turns out it's a G970F. It has a CSC code of TPA, so it appears it's Panamanian. But, I put my T-Mobile SIM in it and everything seems to be working just fine. I called the T-Mobile software support people, who made a few tweaks so that it's supposed to work on their network now. But, when I looked up the differences in the frequencies/bands that the two different phones support, there ARE some differences. I'm not really sure if this will make any difference in how well it works or not. That's my main concern here. Otherwise, the phone looks like new and the battery is in great shape.
The other differences are that it's a dual-sim phone, which is a nice feature. And then there's the fact that it's got the Exynos 9820 processor instead of the Snapdragon. Not really sure that's an issue or not. I'm not looking to root the phone, so I don't think it makes a lot of difference to me. My main issue is to be able to make/receive calls and use data in various locations, some places where T-Mobile's network isn't as strong or built-out.
I've got 90 days to return the phone, so I'll have plenty of time to check things out, but I'd really like to know if the frequency differences are going to be a problem. The T-Mobile person I was on the phone with didn't think it would, but then again, I don't think she knew much about the international versions of these phones. So I'd like to hear from people who know a lot more about these Samsung phones and the differences between the two versions.
My model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA, my baseband version is G970XX56CTE6, my firmware's CSC code shows as DBT and my active CSC code shows as TPA. Android Version 10 / SDK29
Any advice would be appreciated and TIA.
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I have the SM-G970U and I am wishing I had the G970F. As far as I can see there is not much difference in the frequency bands. From the G970U for T-Mobile to the G970F there's a few bands difference. Also I believe you have the G970U/DS for Dual Sim, which is from Asia (India, Singapore). You can see the differences here.....ok nm, I can't post links. So google, "techwalls.c0m" and "G970 differences". You should see the site.
Hope that helps, best of luck!
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I have the SM-G970U and I am wishing I had the G970F. As far as I can see there is not much difference in the frequency bands. From the G970U for T-Mobile to the G970F there's a few bands difference. Also I believe you have the G970U/DS for Dual Sim, which is from Asia (India, Singapore). You can see the differences here.....ok nm, I can't post links. So google, "techwalls.c0m" and "G970 differences". You should see the site.
Hope that helps, best of luck!
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Thanks for the reply. I had seen that site and the differences in bands and that's what made me ask if anyone has seen any difference in the two versions of the phone. Yes, I have either the dual sim version or the hybrid SIM, I'm not really sure since I can't find my exact model on that site. I can see that the phone was made in China and its CSC country is Panama. I can put either 2 SIM cards in the phone or one SIM card and an SD storage card (which is how I have it set up). The full model # is SM-G970FZKJTPA and that model isn't listed on the website that shows what frequencies each model can access. I was on the phone with a T-Mobile tech person when I was setting it up and she had me make a few changes to be sure I was using T-Mobile's LTE network, but I don't think she really knew much about what frequency bands I might need and not have. That's why I asked here.
I'm planning on going to my parents' next week, where T-Mobile's service isn't that great, so I'm hoping that will be a really good test for this phone. Otherwise, it seems to be working just fine for me, although it's hard for me to know if I'm getting full access in the city, where all the bands my phone has are probably supported. Maybe I should look for an app that can tell me what frequencies are available and whether my phone is able to connect, hmmmm. Anybody know of a good app like that?
Thanks so much for the reply.
I downloaded an app called Samsung Band Selection so that I could see what bands my phone actually has. When I compare the bands/frequencies that the app shows I have to what bands T-Mobile has, it looks like I'm missing two bands. One is the 4G FDD LTE band of B71(600MHz). The other band I'm missing is the 4G TDD LTE band of B46(5200). Does anyone know what issues there might be if this phone doesn't have the capability to connect to those two bands?
If you're planning on using the S10e phone on T-Mobile in the USA, get a G970U.
Just look at users in the US Samsung Community forum complaining about issues about their international G970F that G970U owners do not have, that have no immediate resolution.
The T-Mobile S10e models have a model number that end with TMB. I use a pre-owned, T-Mobile carrier-unlocked, Samsung Galaxy S10e.
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If you're planning on using the S10e phone on T-Mobile in the USA, get a G970U.
Just look at users in the US Samsung Community forum complaining about issues about their international G970F that G970U owners do not have, that have no immediate resolution.
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I tried to find threads from users of the G970F to see if they were having problems, but didn't find much here. Maybe I don't know where to look, but so far, I'm having zero problems with this phone. Even in an area where T-Mobile doesn't have a great presence, my reception and data access was fine. I've been on the phone with T-Mobile representatives, who had me do a little tweaking when I first got the phone and I've talked to them about the 2 bandwidths that I'm missing on this phone and I don't think that's going to be a problem.
I'll check again to see if I can search out the problems you're talking about, but this phone seems to be working just fine. If I'm missing something, please point me to the right posts, though.
Thanks for the reply.
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I tried to find threads from users of the G970F to see if they were having problems, but didn't find much here.
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See https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/bd-p/Gethelp-GalaxyS10 and search for G970F or the international models.
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See https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/bd-p/Gethelp-GalaxyS10 and search for G970F or the international models.
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Yeah, I went there after re-reading your last message. When I search for G970F, I find 4 threads which I don't think are going to be problems for me. Unfortunately, when I try to search for "international S10e", the search brings up hundreds of threads that have "internal" in it, rather than "international", so I'm unable to search for just my model. Apparently, their search algorithm isn't the greatest. It sounded like the biggest problem might be the fingerprint sensor not working so well after a recent upgrade. I don't plan on using the fingerprint sensor and it was just one person with the problem, so I don't know how widespread that might be.
Thanks again for the reply.
The G970U has an FM Radio that is enabled. I have verified that it works:
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I hear the G970F either doesn't have it, or it is disabled.
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I saw that difference online, as well. I'm not really sure where to look in order to verify, but from what little I've looked, I don't think it has the FM radio receiver. Not that I have a need for it, but someone else might, so always good to point that out, thanks. I would use the dual-sim capability more than an FM radio, so I'm willing to live without built-in radio. If you tell me where to look, I will verify for sure for others who might be interested.
My SM-G970UZBATMB (T-Mobile s10e) is on Build QP1A.190711.020.G970USQS4DTF6 now (7/2020).
Did your G970F get that update too?
See:
1. https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G970U/TMB/doc.html
2. https://www.t-mobile.com/support/de...axy-s10e/software-updates-samsung-galaxy-s10e
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Mine updated a week or so ago to Build QP1A.190711.020.G970FXXS7CTG1. My Baseband version is now G970FXXS7CTF3.
I've always purchased unlocked Samsung phones, but lately Samsung has been super slow updating them compared to the carrier phones. About to pull the trigger on an S22 Ultra and leaning more towards the T-mobile branded one then the Unlocked one. I can always delete most of the bloatware.
I have a N975U and a N975U1. Both are near identical. However if you replace say the C port pcb you need to get the correct one for that variant. Both have bloatware.
If you can get a better deal with TMOBILE that might be best. I don't know what they throw on their phones.
As for updates especially firmware... they tend to break phones especially branded ones.
Rule #1- if an OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission let it be!
My oldest N10+ is still running on Pie, the current load will be 2 yo in June, still fast and stable. Security is simply not an issue with it... unless you do something stupid. There's no saving dumb bunnies... so forget the scare hype.
Know the vulnerabilities, mitigate as best as possible but most of all always be careful what you install and download. Zero tolerance for any malware, if it can't be eradicated in an hour or two, factory reset.
I got the unlocked Note 20 Ultra directly from Samsung, because at the time, AT&T didn't offer the 512gb. Today, I purchased the Galaxy 22 Ultra directly from Samsung because AT&T is not currently selling the 1TB version. Also, I find that the Samsung bloatware is considerably less than that of the phone carrier.
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I got the unlocked Note 20 Ultra directly from Samsung, because at the time, AT&T didn't offer the 512gb. Today, I purchased the Galaxy 22 Ultra directly from Samsung because AT&T is not currently selling the 1TB version. Also, I find that the Samsung bloatware is considerably less than that of the phone carrier.
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I just use a package disabler on both. Operationally there's no discernible difference although I don't use any of the AT&T features.
Point is both variants are a mess without the package disabler... I was hoping the unlocked version make me say "wow", not meh
Be real swell of Samsung if they had a built in package disabler...
The S22U I ordered is the 1st Samsung phone I've ordered that was not an AT&T model. I need wifi calling and the word is it works on unlocked Samsung phones now. Samsung loads up all their phones with stuff but the AT&T models get the super deluxe bloatware package. It would be great if they gave you more control of what you have on your phone but they have made some pretty nice changes lately with the OS and updates.
I ordered S22U 512gb T-mobile version from Samsung hoping to take advantage of the carrier aggregation and other network improvement. I have Note 20 Ultra 5g unlocked on T-mobile and it does not perform better compared to the iPhone 13 Pro Max. Mostly I have to have the Note on 4g LTE to get great performace. So hopefully I made the right choice.
I thought that the unlocked versions got the security and OS updates first. That alone would be enough for me to get one. However, Samsung doesn't accept pixel 6 pros for trade in yet.. Verizon gave me $1000, what I paid, so, kind of had to do that.. Hopefully I'm wrong!
I do know that you CAN get Verizon at least to unlock your phone. I'll have to see about that for sure.
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I thought that the unlocked versions got the security and OS updates first. That alone would be enough for me to get one. However, Samsung doesn't accept pixel 6 pros for trade in yet.. Verizon gave me $1000, what I paid, so, kind of had to do that.. Hopefully I'm wrong!
I do know that you CAN get Verizon at least to unlock your phone. I'll have to see about that for sure.
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That's pretty funny as Samsung will take iPhones.
AT&T does as well... read the contract and conditions. I've unlocked 2 so far. Buying off the phone after 2 years nets you big savings at least with AT&T.
The updates aren't generally needed for Android 9 and higher useless you do stupid things.
That said there's no saving dumb bunnies... most malware is user loaded/downloaded.
I really don't do an incredible lot to secure Android 9 and it holds up very well.
Try this settings change for global ad blocking and it picks off some of the worst sites as well.
I also use some of the Samsung browser ad blocker plugins; that browser is somewhat vulnerable especially without them.
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I had an ATT locked phone, and while it worked fine with some other carriers (Tmobile) it wouldn't work correct with Mint Mobile. I finally had to put the unlocked firmware on it which fixed the problem. This is with a Fold 3 and an S10.
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I thought that the unlocked versions got the security and OS updates first. That alone would be enough for me to get one. However, Samsung doesn't accept pixel 6 pros for trade in yet.. Verizon gave me $1000, what I paid, so, kind of had to do that.. Hopefully I'm wrong!
I do know that you CAN get Verizon at least to unlock your phone. I'll have to see about that for sure.
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Variant color kept me from going the VZW route, but may reconsider. The $1000 is bill credits spread out over 3 yrs with a penalty of losing the credits if you just want to pay it off right?
howie411 said:
I've always purchased unlocked Samsung phones, but lately Samsung has been super slow updating them compared to the carrier phones. About to pull the trigger on an S22 Ultra and leaning more towards the T-mobile branded one then the Unlocked one. I can always delete most of the bloatware.
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Honestly TMo in the past has had so little bloatware you could hardly tell the difference between the TMo branded Galaxy and the unlocked. Just the annoying magenta splash screen and boot sound.
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I thought that the unlocked versions got the security and OS updates first. That alone would be enough for me to get one. However, Samsung doesn't accept pixel 6 pros for trade in yet.. Verizon gave me $1000, what I paid, so, kind of had to do that.. Hopefully I'm wrong!
I do know that you CAN get Verizon at least to unlock your phone. I'll have to see about that for sure.
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That's never been the case. The Unlocked is always the last to get the updates. This gets discussed every year, with every Samsung device, and every major update.
I usually get the carrier version then flash the corresponding U1 unlocked firmware. Best of both worlds, though be sure to carrier unlock the phone first if needed.
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I usually get the carrier version then flash the corresponding U1 unlocked firmware. Best of both worlds, though be sure to carrier unlock the phone first if needed.
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What happens if your on a U1 unlocked version running U1 firmware and you flash the U carrier version using Home CFC so not to wipe. Will you still get all the carrier version mess and bloatware ?
The reason I ask is there's a new update out for my Fold 3 but only the U carrier version is out not the U1
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I thought that the unlocked versions got the security and OS updates first. That alone would be enough for me to get one. However, Samsung doesn't accept pixel 6 pros for trade in yet.. Verizon gave me $1000, what I paid, so, kind of had to do that.. Hopefully I'm wrong!
I do know that you CAN get Verizon at least to unlock your phone. I'll have to see about that for sure.
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Verizon will Carrier unlock after 60 days by default. They will NOT unlock the bootloader. Ever!