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I just tested for Alternate mode over Type-C, to test for audio and video over DisplayPort. BINGO!
What we need
1. Essential PH-1 phone - Android version 7.1.1 - with screen rotation enabled on the phone
i. Tap and hold on the Home Screen
ii. Click - Settings
iii. Enable "Allow Home screen rotation"
i. Settings - Display - When device is rotated - Rotate the contents of the screen
2. USB Type C 3.1 cable capable of 5 amps support (can supply up to 100W power)
see https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/eqJQbujcikq
May or may not work with a Type C 3.1 cable capable of only 3 amps. Don't have a cable to try.
Will not work with a Type C USB 2.0 cable - typical charging cable - not enough wires in the cable
I believe there is total of 6 different USB Type C cables available, the 3 listed below, with either 3 amp or 5 amp features
i. USB 2.0
ii. USB 3.1 Gen 1 - up to 5 Gbps
iii. USB 3.1 Gen 2 - up to 10 Gbps
3. A monitor with a USB Type-C 3.1 input - LG 4K Ultrafine Monitor
Don't have any knowledge, with respect to Thunderbolt 3 input monitors
e.g. LG 5k Ultrafine Monitor
Not all phones have a USB Type C with 3.1, Gen 1 or Gen 2. Most have only USB Type C 2.0 - cheaper components
Enjoy!
Does the Essential support a USB-C --> HDMI connection?
I think that some do, and obviously the iPhones have simple Lightning to HDMI connectors...
SquireSCA said:
Does the Essential support a USB-C --> HDMI connection?
I think that some do, and obviously the iPhones have simple Lightning to HDMI connectors...
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Yes it does. I even tested a USB-C --> VGA cable at work the other day and it worked fine.
Anyone got a link to a USB-C-->HDMI connector that they know works with this phone?
That was a real bummer with the Pixel line, that they don't support HDMI output at all. I am glad that this one does. Now I just need to know which connector to buy from Amazon...
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I just ordered this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07519HH4H/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I will let you guys know how it works.
This phone just keeps aging better and better, company did things right with the hardware. Very good news
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Ok, that USB-C>HDMI adapter that I listed above from Amazon, works like a champ! Just plug it in and go, your phone's display instantly pops up on the monitor or TV.
SquireSCA said:
Ok, that USB-C>HDMI adapter that I listed above from Amazon, works like a champ! Just plug it in and go, your phone's display instantly pops up on the monitor or TV.
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Thanks; looks ideal for short uses only as you can't charge simultaneously.
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Essential PH-1 with Samsung Dex Station
Hi All,
My Essential PH-1 works perfectly with the Genuine Samsung Dex Station as long as you use the Essential or Samsung Adaptive Charger cable connected to the dock.
The only item I could not get working consistently was the Ethernet connection - but all else worked perfectly.
HDMI out a 4K resolution (2160P)
2 x USB 2.0 ports
Quick Charge while docked ....
Temperatures remained stable at around 45-55 degrees Celsius while driving the external display.
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LEEMCLEOD1969 said:
Hi All,
My Essential PH-1 works perfectly with the Genuine Samsung Dex Station as long as you use the Essential or Samsung Adaptive Charger cable connected to the dock.
The only item I could not get working consistently was the Ethernet connection - but all else worked perfectly.
HDMI out a 4K resolution (2160P)
2 x USB 2.0 ports
Quick Charge while docked ....
Temperatures remained stable at around 45-55 degrees Celsius while driving the external display.
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Now all I need is a reliable Lineage 14.1 OS port with the Auxens OXI desktop embedded for this phone to easily rival my S8 in overall functionality and performance. The Sentio app I am using now is good - but not 100% there yet as it doesn't handle the screen properly due to the camera notch ... and the DPI settings are a bit wonky - but do work.
LEEMCLEOD1969 said:
Hi All,
Now all I need is a reliable Lineage 14.1 OS port with the Auxens OXI desktop embedded
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Auxens OXI looks pretty sweet. Is someone working on a Lineage port w/Auxens OXI or is that just a wish list request?
This will come in handy watching Vanced YouTube without ads
If you're wanting this functionality and are not on Oreo yet, wait to upgrade. Just got this nice detailed response from Samantha @ Essential CS: "While the Essential phone does support this capability, please note that DisplayPort™ is currently only working on devices with Android Nougat, not Android Oreo 8.0. Although the Essential phone is currently running on Android Nougat, we have plans to release Oreo 8.0 within the next several weeks. This is an developer issue across all devices, so unfortunately we can't control when a software fix will be implemented."
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If you're wanting this functionality and are not on Oreo yet, wait to upgrade. Just got this nice detailed response from Samantha @ Essential CS: "While the Essential phone does support this capability, please note that DisplayPort™ is currently only working on devices with Android Nougat, not Android Oreo 8.0. Although the Essential phone is currently running on Android Nougat, we have plans to release Oreo 8.0 within the next several weeks. This is an developer issue across all devices, so unfortunately we can't control when a software fix will be implemented."
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Yeah I bought the Belinda USB c HDMI adapter as linked to from Amazon and it works for like 2 minutes but then randomly cuts off totally. I'm unfortunately on Oreo b3.
Anyone who was using this before on nougat, test this on Pie? Not sure if this was covered or not.
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Anyone who was using this before on nougat, test this on Pie? Not sure if this was covered or not.
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I use a Samsung adapter regularly at work to stream TV on my lunch break to a TV. Used it on Nougat and on Pie
i tried type c to hdmi cable Model : OT-9572 that works fine with my galaxy s8 but doesnt work with my essensial with pie..... is there any option in the menu ? or pie doesnt support hdmi out?????
mikemilos said:
i tried type c to hdmi cable Model : OT-9572 that works fine with my galaxy s8 but doesnt work with my essensial with pie..... is there any option in the menu ? or pie doesnt support hdmi out?????
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Pie does support it. If you have access to another adapter, I'd test it on the Essential. My PH-1 had faulty hardware preventing HDMI output last spring. I had to get it replaced to get it to work.
Any chance that the desktop mode on android q be supported by pixel 3? Knowing that there is no HDMI out for pixel 3, would Google be able to enable HDMI out via a software update? Alternatively, can we use casting to enable the desktop mode on a secondary display with a Chromecast?
Now that Android 10 is available on Pixel 3 and 3 XL, can someone try a USB-C to HDMI adapter with Android 10 update to see if Google has activated HDMI over USB-C for Desktop Mode ? Thank you in advance guys ?
Disappointing, doesn’t do anything here. Never heard anything again about Desktop mode, except of the beginning of beta1.
@trinec it does work on OnePlus 7, 7 Pro and Essential Phone since Android 10 update, you just have to enable 'Force desktop mode' in Developer Settings, restart the phone and plug a USB-C to HDMI adapter
https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/09/04/essential-phone-oneplus-7-pro-desktop-modes-android-10
booldega said:
@trinec it does work on OnePlus 7, 7 Pro and Essential Phone since Android 10 update, you just have to enable 'Force desktop mode' in Developer Settings, restart the phone and plug a USB-C to HDMI adapter
https://mobilesyrup.com/2019/09/04/essential-phone-oneplus-7-pro-desktop-modes-android-10
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Enabled it, pluged it into a usb-c hdmi adapter: didn't do anything.
On the Oneplus 7 it seems to be pretty bad compared to Samsung Dex. So we are only missing out on google style alpha version of a desktop mode.
Thank you @madphone ! All Pixel smartphones (1, 1XL, 2, 2XL, 3, 3XL) have USB 3 except 3a and 3a XL which have USB 2 so Google could activate USB-C to HDMI support with a simple OTA update like LG did with Android 9 update on LG G7, V35 and V40 but they don't, for sure they want you to buy a chromecast but it has a way too high input lag in comparison to USB-C to HDMI adapters. Maybe it could be enabled with an alternative ROM but more and more Android smartphones are becoming compatible with HDMI adapters, soon all Android flagships will support HDMI except Pixels. High end smartphone (price) with low end capabilities, I think that's an enough reason for not buying it.
If you want an improved Desktop Mode on OnePlus 7 more similar to Samsung Dex you can install Sentio Desktop https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sentio.desktop
Is note 10 Lite compatible with dex for pc?
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sirgawain123 said:
Is note 10 Lite compatible with dex for pc?
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sure. just like s10 sereis
never understand why the note 10 lite exits
No, the Note 10 lite is not DeX for PC compatible!
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never understand why the note 10 lite exits
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It's better than the more expensive Note 10 phones because it has a 3.5mm headphone jack and a non-curved screen. It's also far less expensive.
It's better than most other phones because it has the S-Pen (which I personally consider to be super useful on on my Note 8).
All in all, it looks like a great phone that offers the best combination of features for the price, especially to those who want a stylus.
So what?
Did I said anything about good or not good? I said it is not DeX compatible.
Btw. I tested this by myself, with my very new Note 10 Lite, coming from a Note 8.
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So what?
Did I said anything about good or not good? I said it is not DeX compatible.
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Sorry, I quoted the wrong post. Fixed now.
Btw. I tested this by myself, with my very new Note 10 Lite, coming from a Note 8.
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As an owner of the Note 8 who is really impressed by the Note 10 Lite specs/price I'd be very curious to hear more details about this upgrade. What are the biggest advantages and compromises from your point of view?
Front camera sucks.. exchange my note 8 with note 10 lite and it is one of biggest mistake of my life.. performance is definetly better but the feel of curved screen I miss most.. note 9 has much better camera. I suggest to buy note 9 instead of note 10 lite
I am also interested by the Dex feature on this phone. But first as anyone tried to plug this phone a usb c to HDMI on a screen/TV ? I've read somewhere that the USB port does not handle HDMI output....
OK I tried some dongle and there is no HDMI out, like I read here and there on the web (USB-C 2.0 not 3.0).
So I'm wondering if it would be possible to port the new dex that is working over the air.
It is available on Note 20 on the One UI 2.5 update. Any idea ?
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I am also interested by the Dex feature on this phone. But first as anyone tried to plug this phone a usb c to HDMI on a screen/TV ? I've read somewhere that the USB port does not handle HDMI output....
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No! it doesn't work... it just got the support for USB C HUB's (hubs that have Ethernet, tons of usb ports, memory card readers, usb c power delivery...), but the video output (VGA or HDMI) does not work!!!
I just tried something that might work as DeX... I plugged in the USB C Dock(conected to the hub a wireless keyboard and mouse, ethernet and Power Delivery ) to the Galaxy Note 10 LITE, then I turn on Smart View to broadcast to the TV and I got a experience like DeX on the TV!--- Floating Windows, independent application view, etc---
I'm wondering if the Galaxy Note 10 LITE is not supporting the USB 3.0 just because of lack of the USB 3.0 drivers(ANDROID INTERNAL USB DRIVERS FOR HARDWARE), the Galaxy Note 9 uses the same Exynos 9810 chipset and supports USB 3.0 video output!!!
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I plugged in the USB C Dock(conected to the hub a wireless keyboard and mouse, ethernet and Power Delivery ) to the Galaxy Note 10 LITE, then I turn on Smart View to broadcast to the TV and I got a experience like DeX on the TV!--- Floating Windows, independent application view, etc---
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Can you tell me what Hub are you using ? Does the power delivery work well ? I was just thinking about bying one of those HUB actually...
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I'm wondering if the Galaxy Note 10 LITE is not supporting the USB 3.0 just because of lack of the USB 3.0 drivers(ANDROID INTERNAL USB DRIVERS FOR HARDWARE), the Galaxy Note 9 uses the same Exynos 9810 chipset and supports USB 3.0 video output!!!
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My guess is, it's not a driver thing but hardware to limit cost. Note 10 lite is not considered as a High End device. That's why we don't get all the good stuff.
I'm gonna try to get my hand on the latest Dex APK and try to decompile and patch it so maybe we can use it on our device wirelessly. But, hey, I'm not an expert so donc expect me to find out any time soon.
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Can you tell me what Hub are you using ? Does the power delivery work well ? I was just thinking about bying one of those HUB actually...
My guess is, it's not a driver thing but hardware to limit cost. Note 10 lite is not considered as a High End device. That's why we don't get all the good stuff.
I'm gonna try to get my hand on the latest Dex APK and try to decompile and patch it so maybe we can use it on our device wirelessly. But, hey, I'm not an expert so donc expect me to find out any time soon.
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I bought the Dodocool 14 in 1 USB C HUB... you can use the ethernet port and works really well, plug a wireless reciever, usb 3.0 or 2.0 and can work together, SD cards too... I haven't try the USB C Data port, all let you know when I test it... and the Power Delivery, I conected the wall charger that came with the Note 10 lite, to the PD port of the HUB and started to charge the phone...
This is the most important feature for a DEVELOPER TO CREATE FOR NOTE 10LITE!
Hardware wise is capable, but SOFTWARE is not permitting this feature. I hope that a DEVELOPER will be so kind to HELP on that!!!
Any app which can be used an alternative for dex?
I just bought the Honor 20 and found the Desktop mode using cast. But will a dongle(or hub) from USB-C to HDMI work like it does for the Honor 20 view?
It should work, try it
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i tried the samsung type-c hdmi cable , it doesn't work.
Honor 20 comes with a USB 2.0 usb controller using USB-C interface. HDMI out only works on USB controllers with Controller revision 3.0+. So no, you cannot use C->HDMI adapters/cables.
Regards
I was a little disappointed after buying my Poco f2 pro to find the USB-C was not USB 3.1 or 3.0 and just 2.0 . I am guess it is a hardware restriction... I was looking at the teardown and the USB PCB is quite small and independent. IF someone made a USB 3.0 version, could it be swapped and would it work?
One of the main things I would was from the USB 3.0 upgrade would be the ability to use USB-C to hdmi dongles etc...
Of course this Is impossible my friend!
Any Xiaomi device is with USB 2.0 and no, there is no way for 3.0