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HDMI to VGA Converter Unit

The projectors at my work place only have VGA connection. I finally found a converter for the HDMI connector for the Note 8.
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It cost US$35 and it came with its power adapter and HDMI cable. It has an audio out in the device to connect to a sound system. The analog VGA connection only accommodates graphics, hence the audio jack. This was imported from China sold over in the Philippine market. I was constantly checking for one for the last couple of months to be used for live drawing demonstrations.
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TheNeighbor101 said:
The projectors at my work place only have VGA connection. I finally found a converter for the HDMI connector for the Note 8.
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It cost US$35 and it came with its power adapter and HDMI cable. It has an audio out in the device to connect to a sound system. The analog VGA connection only accommodates graphics, hence the audio jack. This was imported from China sold over in the Philippine market. I was constantly checking for one for the last couple of months to be used for live drawing demonstrations.
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Nice find!
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This is the setup using the HDMI to VGA converter:
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wow, i like this setup

Great. Where did you find this in the PHilippines?
TheNeighbor101 said:
The projectors at my work place only have VGA connection. I finally found a converter for the HDMI connector for the Note 8.
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It cost US$35 and it came with its power adapter and HDMI cable. It has an audio out in the device to connect to a sound system. The analog VGA connection only accommodates graphics, hence the audio jack. This was imported from China sold over in the Philippine market. I was constantly checking for one for the last couple of months to be used for live drawing demonstrations.
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Great, I've been looking for an HDMI to VGA converter that works and is also small. Most of the one's I found are huge and kinda defets the purpose of a portable device. Please tell what store or where you found this converter. Thanks a lot!
UPDATE: SORRY JUST LOOKED at the PICS! thanks....which mall outlet exactly? the outlets I visited only have the really huge "box type" version. Thanks.

ProjectER said:
Great, I've been looking for an HDMI to VGA converter that works and is also small. Most of the one's I found are huge and kinda defets the purpose of a portable device. Please tell what store or where you found this converter. Thanks a lot!
UPDATE: SORRY JUST LOOKED at the PICS! thanks....which mall outlet exactly? the outlets I visited only have the really huge "box type" version. Thanks.
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I got this at the CDR King SM Dasmarinas. It's a new product at P1500+, and then I saw one with another make without the need of a power supply at the Acer store at SM MOA for half the price the other day!
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Thanks for the quick response
TheNeighbor101 said:
I got this t the CDR King SM Dasmarinas. It's a new product at P1500+, and then I saw one with another make without the need of a power supply at the Acer store at SM MOA for half the price the other day!
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Wow, a cheaper one at half the price w/ no need for a power supply? That's great. Is it also a cdr-king product? Or an acer product? Is there an exact name for the store at MOA or just acer? Still not sure that the one at the acer store will work (lot's of those powerless converters lying around that don't actually work costing 800 or more, plus they don't have an audio plug like the one you have on your unit).
Btw, how's the cdr-king converter? Build wise/quality? Does it over heat after prolonged use? I'm really interested in it. Hope to connect it not just to the note 8 but to an android mini pc like the MINIX NEO G4.
I'm also thinking of connecting the the note 8/minix & this converter to an external battery/power pack to minimize the need for too many plugs. Do you suppose it might work (or tried it for yourself?)
Thanks a lot for your very helpful post and your quick response. I was losing hope that I would ever be able to connect android to a…regular monitor/projector.

TheNeighbor101 said:
I got this at the CDR King SM Dasmarinas. It's a new product at P1500+, and then I saw one with another make without the need of a power supply at the Acer store at SM MOA for half the price the other day!
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ProjectER said:
Wow, a cheaper one at half the price w/ no need for a power supply? That's great. Is it also a cdr-king product? Or an acer product? Is there an exact name for the store at MOA or just acer? Still not sure that the one at the acer store will work (lot's of those powerless converters lying around that don't actually work costing 800 or more, plus they don't have an audio plug like the one you have on your unit).
I'm also thinking of connecting the the note 8/minix & this converter to an external battery/power pack to minimize the need for too many plugs. Do you suppose it might work (or tried it for yourself?)
Thanks a lot for your very helpful post and your quick response. I was losing hope that I would ever be able to connect android to a…regular monitor/projector.
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Please beware of the fact that the non powered HDMI to VGA converters don't really work with the Note 8.0 MHL to HDMI. I am not sure why....but they don't, probably the MHL doesn't give enough power to run the converter. I tried and it didn't work.
That's not to say that Non powered converter never works, when you connect to a regular HDMI port like of a laptop, it works very well, and mine also had an audio out. Had to return it with a lot of difficulty.
If you just want to connect a note 8.0/note 2/S3 to a VGA input, take a look at this as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248575
Only one MHL to VGA adapter and a 5 pin to 11 pin adapter needed. Also, only a single power source required, much simpler.
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ProjectER said:
Wow, a cheaper one at half the price w/ no need for a power supply? That's great. Is it also a cdr-king product? Or an acer product? Is there an exact name for the store at MOA or just acer? Still not sure that the one at the acer store will work (lot's of those powerless converters lying around that don't actually work costing 800 or more, plus they don't have an audio plug like the one you have on your unit).
Btw, how's the cdr-king converter? Build wise/quality? Does it over heat after prolonged use? I'm really interested in it. Hope to connect it not just to the note 8 but to an android mini pc like the MINIX NEO G4.
I'm also thinking of connecting the the note 8/minix & this converter to an external battery/power pack to minimize the need for too many plugs. Do you suppose it might work (or tried it for yourself?)
Thanks a lot for your very helpful post and your quick response. I was losing hope that I would ever be able to connect android to a…regular monitor/projector.
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As Agambhandari has warned, it looks like the unpowered type will probably will NOT work! The CDR King with the power adapter works quite fine, and has an audio out anyway. It doesn't produce any heat and I have tested it to an HD tv and projector. It's working fine with good audio out - probably why it needs to be powered. The only thing I find frustrating is the power adapter is not a micro USB type of connector, like for the Note 8. So you really need to plug in for its power source, hence you cannot power it with your external battery pack unless you have that exact plug adapter (USB to the round power plug).
One problem I encountered is the video ratio. It cannot adjust the 10:16 ratio to my old 3:4 Viewsonic monitor, and everything is just stretched vertically. My old monitor doesn't have the option to match the 10:16 of the Note 8. It works fine with contemporary lcd tvs and the projector since they match the 10:16 ratio and they have options to adjust.
Yes, the ₱1,580 CDR King HDMI to VGA converter is worth the buy. You only need to be careful of buying the correct 11-pin micro USB to HDMI adapter for the Note II/S3/S4/Note 10.1/Note. The old micro USB to HDMI adaptor that worked with the Note 1 will not work for the Note 8.
You need to hurry up or else stocks run out and it's usually months till they stock up on these.
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Thanks for all the input.
TheNeighbor101 said:
As Agambhandari has warned, it looks like the unpowered type will probably will NOT work! The CDR King with the power adapter works quite fine, and has an audio out anyway. It doesn't produce any heat and I have tested it to an HD tv and projector. It's working fine with good audio out - probably why it needs to be powered. The only thing I find frustrating is the power adapter is not a micro USB type of connector, like for the Note 8. So you really need to plug in for its power source, hence you cannot power it with your external battery pack unless you have that exact plug adapter (USB to the round power plug).
One problem I encountered is the video ratio. It cannot adjust the 10:16 ratio to my old 3:4 Viewsonic monitor, and everything is just stretched vertically. My old monitor doesn't have the option to match the 10:16 of the Note 8. It works fine with contemporary lcd tvs and the projector since they match the 10:16 ratio and they have options to adjust.
Yes, the ₱1,580 CDR King HDMI to VGA converter is worth the buy. You only need to be careful of buying the correct 11-pin micro USB to HDMI adapter for the Note II/S3/S4/Note 10.1/Note. The old micro USB to HDMI adaptor that worked with the Note 1 will not work for the Note 8.
You need to hurry up or else stocks run out and it's usually months till they stock up on these.
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thanks again to TheNeighbor101 and Agambhandari for your great inputs. I agree that Agambhandari's set up is simpler when connecting the note 8 in particular (at least one less power cord). However, i also want this adapter as a multpurpose adapter, so i can connect any tablet with an HDMI out to a projecter or even (as I said earlier) an android mini pc. I used to think that HDMI was so out of the ordinary to be practical when every laptop had a vga port but now that tablets have become mainstream, how i wish HDMI ports were more common place in everyday projectors (how quickly the future creeps up on us)...
I realized that an android mini pc is cheaper (smaller like a big usb flash drive) to just leave connected to a projector while you mirror your presentation from the note 8. Kingsoft office is great with this especially with the floating notes in presentation mode (you see your speaker notes on the multiwindow of the note 8 but it stays hidden on the mirroring device). I wouldn't want to leave the note 8 connected/chained to the projector while you're at the podium/stage. Am still saving up for the set up. Will post feed back if i hopefully get it working....
btw: i'm using the generic 11-pin for the note 8 (it works, tried it on the tv). I thought that the new 11 pin allows for simultaneous charging of the note 8/note2/S3/S4 (as compared to the original 5 pin which didn't)...however, when plugged in, it just seems to power the mhl-hdmi cable. the note 8 shows a charging icon but continues to discharge (bat levels number continues to go down) despite being plugged to a socket? is this becuase it's a generic cable? If I use the true samsung cable will that charge the note 8 and power the mhl cable?
Thanks again to you both....you saved me a ton of effort. More power to XDA

ProjectER said:
thanks again to TheNeighbor101 and Agambhandari for your great inputs. I agree that Agambhandari's set up is simpler when connecting the note 8 in particular (at least one less power cord). However, i also want this adapter as a multpurpose adapter, so i can connect any tablet with an HDMI out to a projecter or even (as I said earlier) an android mini pc. I used to think that HDMI was so out of the ordinary to be practical when every laptop had a vga port but now that tablets have become mainstream, how i wish HDMI ports were more common place in everyday projectors (how quickly the future creeps up on us)...
I realized that an android mini pc is cheaper (smaller like a big usb flash drive) to just leave connected to a projector while you mirror your presentation from the note 8. Kingsoft office is great with this especially with the floating notes in presentation mode (you see your speaker notes on the multiwindow of the note 8 but it stays hidden on the mirroring device). I wouldn't want to leave the note 8 connected/chained to the projector while you're at the podium/stage. Am still saving up for the set up. Will post feed back if i hopefully get it working....
btw: i'm using the generic 11-pin for the note 8 (it works, tried it on the tv). I thought that the new 11 pin allows for simultaneous charging of the note 8/note2/S3/S4 (as compared to the original 5 pin which didn't)...however, when plugged in, it just seems to power the mhl-hdmi cable. the note 8 shows a charging icon but continues to discharge (bat levels number continues to go down) despite being plugged to a socket? is this becuase it's a generic cable? If I use the true samsung cable will that charge the note 8 and power the mhl cable?
Thanks again to you both....you saved me a ton of effort. More power to XDA
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I use a non-Samsung micro USB to HDMI adapter too. It's practically the same thing and quality but at half the price. It slows down the power consumption. It's charging but the rate of incoming charge is lower than the discharging of the battery to power the screen and processing. Try charging it through the adapter with screen turned off or without connecting to an HDMI as an experiment to see this.
If that's your case, my advice is you get the Samsung AllShareCast dongle for only ₱3,800 and connect to the VGA adapter. This is a strong recommendation, unless the Android pc has a wifi hotspot capability, you need to rely on the local network to operate with RemoDroid (only works on rooted) and the frame rate is low and laggy for live sketching or markups. Videos can't show on the projected screen.
The AllShareCast dongle is perfect. Practically shows no image delay. I plan to get one myself for a big presentation around August as I'll be presenting an architectural design to a group of people. I'll need to sketch to get my points across.
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Are you using the stock note 8.0 charger which has a 2.0 A rating?
Your case also happened to me but then, I was using a Nokia charger with a lower rating of only 1.3 A?
There would be no difference in usage or utility of a Samsung and a compatible adapter.
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Yup, using the official charger
agambhandari said:
Are you using the stock note 8.0 charger which has a 2.0 A rating?
Your case also happened to me but then, I was using a Nokia charger with a lower rating of only 1.3 A?
There would be no difference in usage or utility of a Samsung and a compatible adapter.
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Yes, I'm using the official charger. Thanks. So no dice with the simultaneous usage/charging I supposed (and I thought that was one of the advantages of the new 11 pin.)
Anyway, will keep both your comments and suggestions in mind. Just wish the generic screen mirroring on JB 4.2.2 would start being more main stream so we don't have to get stuck with Samsung products using group play and all share cast.I know that chinese tablets are already getting a WIMORX implentation of this and it looks pretty good. I hope this gets baked into a rom. Remodroid hasn't been updated in a while for rootless screen mirroring (on samsung and lg devices). Thanks again to you both.

The generic screen mirroring is actually known as Miracast. AllShare Cast is nothing different from it except the name.
If you have one of the new TV's or any Miracast adapter, the Note 8.0 will also mirror easily to that.
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any generic android mini pc to support generic miracast?
agambhandari said:
The generic screen mirroring is actually known as Miracast. AllShare Cast is nothing different from it except the name.
If you have one of the new TV's or any Miracast adapter, the Note 8.0 will also mirror easily to that.
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Oh so it will work on any miracast adapter?Thanks...I just think that buying a miracast adapter is way to expensive for just mirroring which is why I was thinking of getting an android mini pc stick instead. This way, If i'm not mirroing the note 8, i can still use the stick as a mini pc for the TV. The price of good android mini pc's and the proprietary samsung adapter are just about the same. My problem with the mini pc's is that they're all mostly on ICS4.-- JB 4.1 which don't have working miracast yet. JB 4.2 has it but I'm not sure it will work across all devices.
Do you have any suggestions for cheaper generic miracast adapters (preferably as portable as the samsung one)?
Thanks again.

ProjectER said:
Yes, I'm using the official charger. Thanks. So no dice with the simultaneous usage/charging I supposed (and I thought that was one of the advantages of the new 11 pin.)
Anyway, will keep both your comments and suggestions in mind. Just wish the generic screen mirroring on JB 4.2.2 would start being more main stream so we don't have to get stuck with Samsung products using group play and all share cast.I know that chinese tablets are already getting a WIMORX implentation of this and it looks pretty good. I hope this gets baked into a rom. Remodroid hasn't been updated in a while for rootless screen mirroring (on samsung and lg devices). Thanks again to you both.
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I found an app called Screen Standby that turns off the screen while it is actively connected to the HDMI dongle. It means you can mirror everything onto the projector/screen, except the device's screen is off. It can give you a more charging. You need to root for this to work.
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TheNeighbor101 said:
The projectors at my work place only have VGA connection. I finally found a converter for the HDMI connector for the Note 8.
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It cost US$35 and it came with its power adapter and HDMI cable. It has an audio out in the device to connect to a sound system. The analog VGA connection only accommodates graphics, hence the audio jack. This was imported from China sold over in the Philippine market. I was constantly checking for one for the last couple of months to be used for live drawing demonstrations.
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I'm interested - How long did it take to ship and how much shipping fees? Holding up alright after a month?

minix WIMORX compatibile with Samsung's ALLSHARE cast?
agambhandari said:
The generic screen mirroring is actually known as Miracast. AllShare Cast is nothing different from it except the name.
If you have one of the new TV's or any Miracast adapter, the Note 8.0 will also mirror easily to that.
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Hi, just to add to my first reply about generic miracast. I'm thinking of getting the minix neo x5 mini. It has WIMORX installed. I was wondering if anyone in the note 8 forums has actually seen MINIX's WIMORX and SAMSUNG'S allshare cast (basically both proprietary names for MIRACAST) working together. I've alread seen WIMORX working on you tube and it's really fast even with 2d games (haven't seen 3d games yet)...and we already know that ALLSHARE cast is also good...this may help me decide on this product. I know that based on agambhandari's post it should in theory be compatible but just wanted to know if anyone has actually tried it out or seen it working... thanks...again.

Thought I'd update this thread a bit.
TheNeighbor101 said:
I use a non-Samsung micro USB to HDMI adapter too. It's practically the same thing and quality but at half the price. It slows down the power consumption. It's charging but the rate of incoming charge is lower than the discharging of the battery to power the screen and processing. Try charging it through the adapter with screen turned off or without connecting to an HDMI as an experiment to see this.
If that's your case, my advice is you get the Samsung AllShareCast dongle for only ₱3,800 and connect to the VGA adapter. This is a strong recommendation, unless the Android pc has a wifi hotspot capability, you need to rely on the local network to operate with RemoDroid (only works on rooted) and the frame rate is low and laggy for live sketching or markups. Videos can't show on the projected screen.
The AllShareCast dongle is perfect. Practically shows no image delay. I plan to get one myself for a big presentation around August as I'll be presenting an architectural design to a group of people. I'll need to sketch to get my points across.
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Greetings,
It's been a while. i thought I'd share some of my experiences on trying to hook up to VGA and ask a few questions as well while I'm at it. I din't get the allsharecast dongle. Instead, I opted to get the minix neo g4 android mini pc. It's a great product. I figured, the allshare cast dongle is great but it doesn't do much else without a samsung device to mirror its contents. The minix is a full fledged android device running 4.1 (upgradable to 4.2) so even without any samsung or other android device, it can stand on its own. It's RK remote is amazing as well so you can play touch games like dead trigger 2 on it using your android phone as the controller (ala droidmote). For presentations, I realized that kingsoft office is great since you can "share play" powerpoints slides similar to presenter view on a windows PC. To illustrate, you can present the slides on the minix neo g4 (synchronized to the note 8) and still pull out your slide notes on the note 8 (without these showing up on the minix/vga projector set up). With screen mirroring, if you pull out your slide notes than this gets mirrored to the projector screen.
Instead of getting the CDRking HDMI to vga converter with audio noted on this post, i opted to get the MINIX HDMI to VGA converter. It also works like a charm. Connected it to a samsung laptop's HDMI (at the store) and it worked, connected it to an asus TF101 tablet (mini HDMI to REGULAR HDMI than to MINIX HDMI-VGA) and it worked, connected it to the minix neo G4 and obviously...it WORKED (FULL 1080p)...plus it has an audio out (for full speakers) as well that WORKS even without connecting the optional power supply to the converter....now the sad part and also my question....
1)I connected it to the NOTE 8 and tried the S2 as well: MHL to HDMI adapter then to the MINIX HDMI-VGA adapter. The TV connected, the "hdmi connected" appeared on the note 8, the TV autoadjusted it's VGA input signals and then voila...GREEN SCREEN. Am I doing something wrong?
What I've found so far:
a) I read in another forum that some HDMI manufactureres USE some kind of HDMC digital code (sorry don't remember the actual acronym) to limit piracy of digital content.. Unfortunately, this HDMC code isn't supported by VGA so it won't work. Could that be what's going on? My asus is already on a custom rom (using the KATKIS 4.3 multiwindow stable edition rom which is excellent if i might add) and doesn't ende up with this GREEN SCREEN. The asus is also an older model using an even older GPU (Tegra 2) but it screen mirrors to VGA just fine. Is it time to flash a custom note 8 rom? Did you get a similar problem with your HDMI-VGA adapter. If so, how did you overcome it?
b) I've read in another forum that it's faulty cables but I used the same cables for the asus and minix.both worked without a hitch.
2) Next question. How did it go with the presentation using the note 8. You said you'd be using it with the allshare cast dongle. I've noticed that on the big screen (using kingsoft, quickoffice, polaris), all power point slides just aren't as sharp as when viewing them using a regular PC and windows software (even on the minix which already uses full HD 1080p resolution).Plus, there are always black bars along the sides.Can't full strecth the slide the way microsoft powerpoint stretches slides to fill the screen when presenting.
Thanks again.
Anyway

Had the same green screen problem. The problem I believe is that the MHL standard doesn't have enought power to give the hdmi to vga converter.
If possible try an MHL to VGA adapter, or else replace the current HDMI TO VGA with a powered HDMI to VGA .
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USB-C to HDMI Adapter

Hey all.
Anyone know whether USB to HDMI is possible with the Honor 8? If so, any recommendations?

Honestly, good luck finding a phone that supports either HDMI-AltMode or DisplayPort-AltMode. I don't believe there's a single non-Windows Phone 10 device that does.
Sorry to crush your dreams. I'm still waiting on Google to enable it on the Pixel C, like they claimed they would ages ago.

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...I don't believe there's a single non-Windows Phone 10 device that does...
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I mean, I was able to output to HDMI using a slim-port adapter with my Nexus 5; I used to use it all the time with my mini projector while traveling.
It doesn't seem that improbable.

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I mean, I was able to output to HDMI using a slim-port adapter with my Nexus 5; I used to use it all the time with my mini projector while traveling.
It doesn't seem that improbable.
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MHL is very different than Type-C AltModes
I have yet to see a phone (outside of Continuum enabled devices) with support for altmodes, and Type-C doesn't have MHL support.

Lg G5 has this feature. I guess it's the only Android smartphone with the usb type C-Hdmi enabled.

Yeah, even though the port is usbC shaped, it's still a micro usb controller.
As far as I know the Pixel is the only phone with an actual USB-C and 3.0 supported port, but there may be others.

HTC 10 support display-port interface over it's usb-c port.

MHL support

Does the Mi Mix 2s support MHL or any other wired screen mirroring function? Because Miracast is always pretty laggy and it's especially bad when it comes to games.

AFAIK, Mi Mix 1/2/2S only support Miracast/Chromecast/Displaylink. You can try Displaylink supported adapter from Plugable (up to Full HD) and Chromecast Ultra (for 4K). Or you can try some Android TV boxs for Miracast.

Anatasia said:
AFAIK, Mi Mix 1/2/2S only support Miracast/Chromecast/Displaylink. You can try Displaylink supported adapter from Plugable (up to Full HD) and Chromecast Ultra (for 4K). Or you can try some Android TV boxs for Miracast.
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As I said l, Miracast is pretty laggy and I was looking for a wired solution like MHL which worked a lot better on an older device I used to own. But still thanks for your answer.
Has someone really tried it though? Or does anyone know more in general?

Many have tried the wired Displaylink supported adapter on their Oneplus 5 along with usb otg. I think the main concern is whether the usb port can supply enough power or not. If that is the case, you have to buy another USB hub with seperare power supply.

Anatasia said:
Many have tried the wired Displaylink supported adapter on their Oneplus 5 along with usb otg. I think the main concern is whether the usb port can supply enough power or not. If that is the case, you have to buy another USB hub with seperare power supply.
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From your infos It seems that the MiMix2s is normally able to put out an HDMIN signal through its USB-C port,
but only in combination with a specific app ('displaylink presenter')? This seems very unlikely for me.
Nowadays (6 years later) it surely exist a method with a "common" USB-C-to-HDMI-Adapter, or am I wrong?

ASUS ZenScreen GO MB16AP - Will it work with Dex?

https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/MB16AP/
I'm thinking of getting the Zenscreen Go (when it's available) to work with Note 9's Dex mode since it can double as secondary screen for my laptop too when I need it. However, I'm not sure if it will actually work with the Note 9. Any ideas/comments?

IsolatedAbyss said:
https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/MB16AP/
I'm thinking of getting the Zenscreen Go (when it's available) to work with Note 9's Dex mode since it can double as secondary screen for my laptop too when I need it. However, I'm not sure if it will actually work with the Note 9. Any ideas/comments?
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I don't see why it won't work. Be cautious though for a battery drain, since the monitor uses USB-C for its power as well, instead of using (having) its own battery.
I'd recommend for you to get a HP Elite x3 Lap Dock instead if you meant to bring it out for "portability" (15.6 inch is not portable for me at all) if you plan to mainly using it with your phone. Just think of using your N9 as a bonus of getting it work with a laptop.

StardustGeass said:
I don't see why it won't work. Be cautious though for a battery drain, since the monitor uses USB-C for its power as well, instead of using (having) its own battery.
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The MB16AP has its own battery. The big question is when will it become available.

Yea, the screen has it's own battery. I know Dex works using USB C to HDMI, but I'm not sure if USB C to USB C will work with the Zenscreen or not.
I have considered the HP Lapdock but without the phone it is just deadweight. At least the Zenscreen can serve as a second display for my laptop so I'll be getting more utility out of it.

IsolatedAbyss said:
Yea, the screen has it's own battery. I know Dex works using USB C to HDMI, but I'm not sure if USB C to USB C will work with the Zenscreen or not.
I have considered the HP Lapdock but without the phone it is just deadweight. At least the Zenscreen can serve as a second display for my laptop so I'll be getting more utility out of it.
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USB C to C will work. I use an HP Elite Lap Dock with a USB C connector..
Regarding HP Lapdock, it is not. If you're using Note 9 with it, your phone will still functions as usual. The deadweight happens if you're using older DeX phone that doesn't support dual screen DeX.
*sorry the photo is unintentionally uploaded and i don't know how to delete it...

StardustGeass said:
*sorry the photo is unintentionally uploaded and i don't know how to delete it...
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If you're on a desktop PC:
Click on the Edit button,located right below your post,towards the right side of your screen.
Then click on Advanced, should be in the same area.
Scroll down until you see your attachments,click on Manage Attachments, then delete & save.

KOLIOSIS said:
If you're on a desktop PC:
Click on the Edit button,located right below your post,towards the right side of your screen.
Then click on Advanced, should be in the same area.
Scroll down until you see your attachments,click on Manage Attachments, then delete & save.
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Noted, gonna do it once I grab a desktop PC... Currently only android is available XD

StardustGeass said:
Noted, gonna do it once I grab a desktop PC... Currently only android is available XD
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If you use desktop mode in Chrome,you should be able to do the same.
At least ya didn't upload something best kept in a secure folder/etc...........

Asus is coming out with a touch version of the MB16AP, but I've searched high and low for the model number and came up with nothing, and who knows when it will come out. In the meantime I ordered the MB16AP on ebay which is the non-touch version with the battery and it should arrive next week. According to the Asus website, it should be compatible with any android phone (version 5.0 or above) and most laptops with Displaylink drivers. So I assume it will work with the Note 9 in Dex mode.
TS out

twospirits said:
Asus is coming out with a touch version of the MB16AP, but I've searched high and low for the model number and came up with nothing, and who knows when it will come out. In the meantime I ordered the MB16AP on ebay which is the non-touch version with the battery and it should arrive next week. According to the Asus website, it should be compatible with any android phone (version 5.0 or above) and most laptops with Displaylink drivers. So I assume it will work with the Note 9 in Dex mode.
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Good to see ya here in the Note 9 forum TS ! :good:

Nice!
Wow i'm sure glad I saw this.... been looking for something like that HP Lapdock. I got the Sentio Superbook and after a year and a half it was quite a let-down. Tech just changes so fast and the user experience was not good. Played around with Dex and it works well for my needs.

Well that external monitor (MB16AP) came in this past week and I've been testing it with the Note 9. First of all, she is a beauty. Works with the Note 9 and DeX without any issues. On the Note 8, I had blackouts and all sorts of issues using either a hdmi or vga monitor. Since then I've upgraded to the Note 9 and the same issues appear but less so. It was somewhat manageable. I figure it may have been the monitors and not the Notes. But when I hooked up the Note 9 to the Zenscreen MB16AP, wow what a difference. Smooth as butter.
The only issue I've encountered is since the Note 9 and the Zenscreen use a single USB-C cable, there is no way to use any usb or usb dongle wireless mouse and keyboard. You are either forced to use the built in Note 9 keyboard and use the touch screen as the mouse. The monitor finally showed up on Amazon and its about $50 more than on ebay due to the shipping. But at least Amazon has a way better return policy that the two outfits on ebay that are selling the model.
I did a somewhat review of the monitor on Amazon.
edit: forgot the pics
TS out

I was about to get a zenscreen go, before I got an HP X3 Lapdock. I'm rly glad I got it instead, cause I was gonna get the Zenscreen, and a BT keyboard and mouse to mimick a lapdock like miracast.
No need for that nonsense now. If anyone gets an HP lapdock, the only combo I've seen work consistently is the Snapdragon Note 9 + The american Lapdock model which starts with a V. All the other models have various things that don't work. They start with a Y. I'd also avoid getting a refurbished one, as it's not known is they used parts from other models that are not compatible with the Note 9. Just get it new on amazon or ebay. new.

I got the HP Lapdock and boy so glad I did. For my needs it's perfect. Everything works great and the battery lasts a long time.... I ran it over 7 hours yesterday to test. The only thing that doesn't work is left and right clicking on the touchpad do nothing. You have to use gestures.... but I use a mouse anyway.....
Seriously Samsung needs to make their own lapdock for dex.....
kill_dano said:
I was about to get a zenscreen go, before I got an HP X3 Lapdock. I'm rly glad I got it instead, cause I was gonna get the Zenscreen, and a BT keyboard and mouse to mimick a lapdock like miracast.
No need for that nonsense now. If anyone gets an HP lapdock, the only combo I've seen work consistently is the Snapdragon Note 9 + The american Lapdock model which starts with a V. All the other models have various things that don't work. They start with a Y. I'd also avoid getting a refurbished one, as it's not known is they used parts from other models that are not compatible with the Note 9. Just get it new on amazon or ebay. new.
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I have an Asus MB16AC that I use with my laptop. I tried it the other day, but the monitor would only power on for 1-2 seconds. This evening, I charged the phone to 100% and tried again.
Using the USB-C to USB-C cable to the Note 9, screen mirroring works great, but only lasts for a short time. Playing video makes the monitor power off even faster. Definitely a problem powering the display from the phone.
Switching to Dex mode makes everything go black. I assume that Dex mode takes more power.
I'll order a powered USB3 hub and try again. I can't seem to find a USB-C hub that has USB-C ports, except for one that does PD (Power Delivery).

twospirits said:
Well that external monitor (MB16AP) came in this past week and I've been testing it with the Note 9. First of all, she is a beauty. Works with the Note 9 and DeX without any issues. On the Note 8, I had blackouts and all sorts of issues using either a hdmi or vga monitor. Since then I've upgraded to the Note 9 and the same issues appear but less so. It was somewhat manageable. I figure it may have been the monitors and not the Notes. But when I hooked up the Note 9 to the Zenscreen MB16AP, wow what a difference. Smooth as butter.
The only issue I've encountered is since the Note 9 and the Zenscreen use a single USB-C cable, there is no way to use any usb or usb dongle wireless mouse and keyboard. You are either forced to use the built in Note 9 keyboard and use the touch screen as the mouse. The monitor finally showed up on Amazon and its about $50 more than on ebay due to the shipping. But at least Amazon has a way better return policy that the two outfits on ebay that are selling the model.
I did a somewhat review of the monitor on Amazon.
edit: forgot the pics
TS out
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Have you found a solution for the power? Wouldn't charging the phone with Qi help or USB-C PD is needed? I have not found any adapter allowing out on phone, and in by another USB-C that would send power.

lbarouf said:
Have you found a solution for the power? Wouldn't charging the phone with Qi help or USB-C PD is needed? I have not found any adapter allowing out on phone, and in by another USB-C that would send power.
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Yes I can place the phone on a wireless charger while using the USB-C cable to send the DEX display to the monitor. But it seems the monitor is taking up more juice than it gets. Thus depleting the battery eventually. You would think that if the Note 9 is supplying the power to the monitor that the monitor would not use the internal battery but it seems that it does. Then if the internal battery goes down to 0, it will not allow Dex to display until the internal battery has at least 5% juice. It baffles me why Asus did not include a splitter of some sort or have the device have another USB-C port for charging.
btw that USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 cable by NekTeck is a suitable replacement for the OEM Asus USB-C cable.

Android tab which supports OTG and charging at the same time

I'm looking for devices (Android tablets) which supports OTG (to connect slave-devices, e.g., a mouse) and charging at the same time
There was a thread about Nexus 7 https://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-s2/help/usb-otg-charge-t3588019
It needed a custom kernel to get OTG+Charging working
But it's very old, you can't buy a new Nexus 7 anymore
Also someone mentioned about Samsung tablets:
Samsung tablets for sure can support OTG Host/Charge for a tablet and peripherals. Here is a list of supported tablets:
Samsung Galaxy Tab A (10.1″)***
Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 (8.0″, 9.7″)
Samsung Galaxy Tab E (9.6″)*
Samsung Galaxy Tab A (8.0″, 9.7″**)
Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 (8.0″, 10.1″)
Samsung Galaxy Tab S (8.4″, 10.5″)
Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro (10.1″, 12.2″)
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But these devices are also quite also and Samsung devices aren't that cheap anyway (if buying a new model)
So... Are there any devices (on sale) with normal prices which support OTG and Charging at the same time?
It doesn't matter if there is one port (input) or two (one for OTG and one for charging). Some Windows based tablets has a separate port for charging

Does Samsung Galaxy Tab A 7.0 (quite cheap) support OTG+Charging at the same time?

User848 said:
I'm looking for devices (Android tablets) which supports OTG (to connect slave-devices, e.g., a mouse) and charging at the same time
There was a thread about Nexus 7 https://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-s2/help/usb-otg-charge-t3588019
It needed a custom kernel to get OTG+Charging working
But it's very old, you can't buy a new Nexus 7 anymore
Also someone mentioned about Samsung tablets:
But these devices are also quite also and Samsung devices aren't that cheap anyway (if buying a new model)
So... Are there any devices (on sale) with normal prices which support OTG and Charging at the same time?
It doesn't matter if there is one port (input) or two (one for OTG and one for charging). Some Windows based tablets has a separate port for charging
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What you need is a "powered USB hub", it has its own power supply and it will allow you to connect multiple USB devices(mouse, keyboard, flash drive, etc..) and charge the device at the same time by connecting your phone charger to the hub at the same time.
I use a USB to microUSB adapter, then connect the adapter to a USB hub that has 4 ports, then I use the adapter to connect the hub to the charging port on the device, then I connect a keyboard, mouse and phone charger to the USB hub.
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Droidriven said:
What you need is a "powered USB hub", it has its own power supply and it will allow you to connect multiple USB devices(mouse, keyboard, flash drive, etc..) and charge the device at the same time by connecting your phone charger to the hub at the same time.
I use a USB to microUSB adapter, then connect the adapter to a USB hub that has 4 ports, then I use the adapter to connect the hub to the charging port on the device, then I connect a keyboard, mouse and phone charger to the USB hub.
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It's not that easy with Android, believe me

User848 said:
It's not that easy with Android, believe me
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With a "powered" USB hub, it is, but not with a standard USB hub.
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Droidriven said:
With a "powered" USB hub, it is, but not with a standard USB hub.
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There is no such hub... At least officially. You won't find much. I saw one hub, but users said it was working only with Windows tablet (OTG+Charging), for Android OTG was working only
just google "Android OTG+Charging" you you'll it's quite a problem

User848 said:
There is no such hub... At least officially. You won't find much. I saw one hub, but users said it was working only with Windows tablet (OTG+Charging), for Android OTG was working only
just google "Android OTG+Charging" you you'll it's quite a problem
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Something like this won't do the job?
https://www.amazon.com/TUSITA-Adaptor-Charging-Adapter-Raspberry/dp/B00LTHBCNM
Or this:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VK9C24M/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
Of course, the device must support OTG and the accessory charging feature. If it doesn't, I'm not sure there is anything you can do to force it.
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Droidriven said:
Something like this won't do the job?
https://www.amazon.com/TUSITA-Adaptor-Charging-Adapter-Raspberry/dp/B00LTHBCNM
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You have to test first
Does this hub supply a tablet with power or connected devices (slaves) to tablet? I need to charge a tablet and not connected devices (connected devices can get power from tablet)

User848 said:
I don't you have to test first
Does this hub supply a tablet with power or connected devices (slaves) to tablet? I need to charge a tablet and not connected devices (connected devices can get power from tablet)
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YDtc37u9Kvo
I also edited my post above to add more info.
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Droidriven said:
Of course, the device must support OTG and the accessory charging feature. If it doesn't, I'm not sure there is anything you can do to force it.
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Well... manufactures don't give any information if their devices support all of this and what customers have to do to get it working (buy a specific hub or something else)
It's been two days and I only got reply from you. So we can say that it's not that easy and we can't be sure what to buy. I don't want to waste money if it's not going to work
Would be great if someone could really tell me which devices (tablets) support this feature, which hub should I get for such devices and so on

Did u have any luck with this?
I am looking for the same thing. So far I tested a fire 7 that did not work.
It seems like usb c tablets might be the answer. Seen a post that mentioned a version of the note working this way.
I might give the galaxy tab a8 a try.

I'm building a list of those known to work and not work: I can't post the link.
So far, these devices are known to support USB OTG and charging with an ACA cable:
RaspBerry Pi
Amazon FireStick
Amazon Kindle Fire 10???
Dell Venue 8 pro
HTC One M9
Lenovo Miix 2 tablet?
Lenovo Yoga Book
Moto G 4?
NuVision Tab 8 (Windows 10) after restart only?
Nvidia Shield K1 table??
OnePlus One
Samsung Galaxy S3
Samsung Galaxy S4
Samsung Galaxy S5
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Samsung Galaxy Tab 4
Samsung Galaxy Tab A7?
Samsung Galaxy Tab A8.0
Samsung Galaxy Tab E?
Samsung Galaxy Tab S2??
Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5?
Samsung Galaxy View
Snes Classic
Devices which have a separate DC in power jack and support USB OTG (WIth any OTG cable, does't need ACA)
iRola 7" tablet. Very old.
E-Ceros Create 2 Tablet. Old
Ainol Q88. A newer version of this with Android7.1 and 1GB RAM is apparently still made. $53 It's said to support USB OTG (at least for a 3G adapter) and pictures clearly show a DC power jack, although the adapter may not be included. It is typically sold as a childs toy, but the protective rubber covering peels off to reveal a black plastic case.
Cube Talk 11 3G Phablet $85?
Raspberry Pi
Known to support OTG but NOT while charging: This limits OTG to either very short periods of use
Amazon Kindle Fire 7
Asus T100TAM
LG Nexus 5
LG Nexus 7
Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Samsung Galaxy S7
Samsung Galaxy S8+
Samsung Galaxy S9
Samsung Galaxy TabPro 10.1

JamesMNewton said:
I'm building a list of those known to work and not work: I can't post the link.
So far, these devices are known to support USB OTG and charging with an ACA cable:
RaspBerry Pi
Amazon FireStick
Amazon Kindle Fire 10???
Dell Venue 8 pro
HTC One M9
Lenovo Miix 2 tablet?
Lenovo Yoga Book
Moto G 4?
NuVision Tab 8 (Windows 10) after restart only?
Nvidia Shield K1 table??
OnePlus One
Samsung Galaxy S3
Samsung Galaxy S4
Samsung Galaxy S5
Samsung Galaxy Note 3
Samsung Galaxy Tab 4
Samsung Galaxy Tab A7?
Samsung Galaxy Tab A8.0
Samsung Galaxy Tab E?
Samsung Galaxy Tab S2??
Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5?
Samsung Galaxy View
Snes Classic
Devices which have a separate DC in power jack and support USB OTG (WIth any OTG cable, does't need ACA)
iRola 7" tablet. Very old.
E-Ceros Create 2 Tablet. Old
Ainol Q88. A newer version of this with Android7.1 and 1GB RAM is apparently still made. $53 It's said to support USB OTG (at least for a 3G adapter) and pictures clearly show a DC power jack, although the adapter may not be included. It is typically sold as a childs toy, but the protective rubber covering peels off to reveal a black plastic case.
Cube Talk 11 3G Phablet $85?
Raspberry Pi
Known to support OTG but NOT while charging: This limits OTG to either very short periods of use
Amazon Kindle Fire 7
Asus T100TAM
LG Nexus 5
LG Nexus 7
Samsung Galaxy Note 4
Samsung Galaxy S7
Samsung Galaxy S8+
Samsung Galaxy S9
Samsung Galaxy TabPro 10.1
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Thanks for the summary. I am also looking for android tablets that support USB host and charging at the same. A few old tablets from LG and ZTE have both micro-USB as charging port and a full-sized USB port to host other devices. But they are quite old. So ACA cable might be the way to go.
Question: Do we need to patch android os as described here use ACA cable?

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."
You can always offer power to a hosting device.
Whether it takes it is another question.
If it's rooted you may find that you can control something to make it take it.
I've used back-powering hubs to power Androids.
This is a hub that has been modified to present power on the upstream port.
You can modify any powered hub to do this.
See: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25639514&postcount=8

Has anyone come up with any solutions to this problem? I see this thread is a year old but I am here with a samsung tab A 8.0 2019, I have the exact same problem. I need to an external usb in service while charging, not one or the other.

The use of a specific value resistor on the USB OTG ID pin to ground is pretty manufacturer specific.
Some devices have up to a 5 bit non-linear converter on the ID pin to give up to 32 modes.
I've found Samsung to be a fan of using the OTG ID pin.
I would definitely try values from short to 1 k to 1 M (in an exponential progression).
I don't even remember which device this is, but it gives you some idea of the values they might use:
Code:
0
2000
2604
3208
4014
4820
6030
8030
10030
12030
14460
17260
20500
24070
28700
34000
40200
49900
64900
80700
102000
121000
150000
200000
255000
301000
365000
442000
523000
619000
1000000
Open
If you're rooted you may be able to control the charge controller directly.
Some of this could be a pain if you were plugging/unplugging all the time.
If this is some hard-wired, fixed usage you could definitely hard wire your own 4 V charger into the battery.
You might try getting a few pots 10k, 50k, 250k and some 220k resistors to try your luck.

Whoever is reading this I can assure you that the Samsung tab A does not charge while OTG. Jamming a resistor in there to short out the sense pin is not a thing. These are pwm charging and have been for a while. Even after spending $100 on the OTG cable alone it's still not working.. rooting.. twrp.. none of It makes any difference at all

scampo77 said:
Even after spending $100 on the OTG cable alone it's still not working.
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How do you even do that? An OTG adapter is < $5. A connector is < $1.
OTG adapters normally have the ID grounded right inside the connector so you can't use that unless you chop up the connector.
You need to make up your own micro USB connector.
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I don't have a Samsung Tab A so there's only so much that I can say.
All devices have a linear or DC buck converter that feeds USB power to the battery.
All devices (that do powered OTG) have a charge pump or a DC boost converter that feeds power to the USB jack.
Both of these are under control of the processor.
Look in your kernel source under usb/otg
You should easily be able to see if you have an ADC on your OTG ID pin or if it's just a GPIO.
Look at your device under /sys and see if there is anything suspicious with "adc" in its name.
Code:
find /sys -name '*adc*' 2>/dev/null
In worst case you'd have to modify a driver.

Y otg cable (replaced 4 pin micro usb connector with 5 pin micro usb connector) + 68k + 20k gives fast charging and data commuincation on Galaxy Tab A 2016 (SM-T585)

Renate said:
How do you even do that? An OTG adapter is < $5. A connector is < $1.
OTG adapters normally have the ID grounded right inside the connector so you can't use that unless you chop up the connector.
You need to make up your own micro USB connector.
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I don't have a Samsung Tab A so there's only so much that I can say.
All devices have a linear or DC buck converter that feeds USB power to the battery.
All devices (that do powered OTG) have a charge pump or a DC boost converter that feeds power to the USB jack.
Both of these are under control of the processor.
Look in your kernel source under usb/otg
You should easily be able to see if you have an ADC on your OTG ID pin or if it's just a GPIO.
Look at your device under /sys and see if there is anything suspicious with "adc" in its name.
Code:
find /sys -name '*adc*' 2>/dev/null
In worst case you'd have to modify a driver.
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Woe woe woe!!! I had fully given up on this tablet and didn't check back here out of anger and frustration. I have a hard time getting any support.
I am having a hard time following your technical speak. How do I get into that menu? Are you willing to give me a hand with this? Those commands look like ADB??
The charger I purchased was from a company called "lava" you can find them easily online. It was a Y cable that was almost $100. It didn't work.