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[Q] Is it mandatory to connect the charger with the HDTV Adapter ?

Hi Guys,
I've got my HDTV Adapter for a stock Galaxy Note 10.1, I'm a bit disappointed because it looks like it's mandatory to connect the charger (the cable already has got an extra slot for connecting the charger) in order to make the note send what it is displayed on its screen to the cable so I can see it on the computer screen for example.
Does anybody have an idea if this is true or not ? I'd love the idea if it is an option but not an obligation !!!!

koki-tytnII said:
Hi Guys,
I've got my HDTV Adapter for a stock Galaxy Note 10.1, I'm a bit disappointed because it looks like it's mandatory to connect the charger (the cable already has got an extra slot for connecting the charger) in order to make the note send what it is displayed on its screen to the cable so I can see it on the computer screen for example.
Does anybody have an idea if this is true or not ? I'd love the idea if it is an option but not an obligation !!!!
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My experience is yes, power is required. But this can be as easy as plugging in the usb to the tv or monitor if it has a usb port, you dont HAVE to use the charger

Which adaptor did you use?
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GETCASHMONEY said:
Which adaptor did you use?
Sent from my GT-N8010 using Android Central Forums
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I'm using the original samsung hdtv adapter

SSThing said:
My experience is yes, power is required. But this can be as easy as plugging in the usb to the tv or monitor if it has a usb port, you dont HAVE to use the charger
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Well, let me tell you why I'm a bit disappointed, I used to have an iPad which used in a lot of meetings moving here in and there with my pad and cable, now I've to have a power source around or even a computer, with a at least two cables with/without a charger, I'm not bothered with that at home but while one business this note didnn't prove to be a stand-alone, I'm not sure if an app that may simulate charging can deceicve tthe note on that aspect or not but so far, this can be considered a draw-back

[Q] mhl hdmi - otg adapter : using both at the same time

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
this adapter claims to be able to do hdmi output as well as OTG at the same time.... anyone have experienced with such adapters? do they really work?

yeahman45 said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?
this adapter claims to be able to do hdmi output as well as OTG at the same time.... anyone have experienced with such adapters? do they really work?
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Funny, I actually have. I work in a computer repair/data recovery shop and we have a phone in with a broken screen/lcd. Long story short is that the device did not work with the phone we got it for, nor my phone (Galaxy S5), and I know my MHL works on my phone but we needed KB/Mouse support as well.
It may have been a bunk device and we haven't requested a replacement yet, so If you try it out let me know if yours works, and when we get our replacement i'll let you know.

actually the seller replied to me and says that this cannot do hdmi and otg at the same time but apparently this dock does : http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=ite...obalID=EBAY-US&ssPageName=ADME:X:ACME:US:1123
but this dock is not compatible with galaxy s5 ... i wonder why

yeahman45 said:
actually the seller replied to me and says that this cannot do hdmi and otg at the same time but apparently this dock does : http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=ite...obalID=EBAY-US&ssPageName=ADME:X:ACME:US:1123
but this dock is not compatible with galaxy s5 ... i wonder why
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Actually I didn't see where is said it wasn't compatible with the S5, it only list a few year old phones.

Oditius said:
Actually I didn't see where is said it wasn't compatible with the S5, it only list a few year old phones.
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I asked the seller if it was compatible with the S5 and he said no

byransays said:
Funny, I actually have. I work in a computer repair/data recovery shop and we have a phone in with a broken screen/lcd. Long story short is that the device did not work with the phone we got it for, nor my phone (Galaxy S5), and I know my MHL works on my phone but we needed KB/Mouse support as well.
It may have been a bunk device and we haven't requested a replacement yet, so If you try it out let me know if yours works, and when we get our replacement i'll let you know.
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did you get a replacement? does it work with hdmi and usb host at the same time?

i received and used the same one adapter
yes it can do both at the same time
although i am not satisfied with the image quality of the hdmi output

...which one
Purplys said:
i received and used the same one adapter
yes it can do both at the same time
although i am not satisfied with the image quality of the hdmi output
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Which one are you referring to?

tamuin said:
Which one are you referring to?
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the one OP says:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-MHL-OTG...t-for-Galaxy-S3-S4-S5-i9600-BK-/121338519505?

I can't believe there is no good adapter or dock that can do usb host and hdmi at the same time properly...

yeahman45 said:
I can't believe there is no good adapter or dock that can do usb host and hdmi at the same time properly...
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Unfortunately I don't think so, I used this:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Lindy-73391-...6?pt=DE_Computer_Sonstige&hash=item462bc81bb0
with a s4, and it worked prperly, but when connected to s5 it doesn't even turns on. I think it is because s5 doesn't have a docking mode, in fact if you go in Settings-->accessories, there is only an option for sound on hdmi, while in s4 there were more (and one was for the docking mode)

I couldn't find anything that worked reliably and consistently. So I use the MHL for HDMI output and use a Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse...

timeToy said:
I couldn't find anything that worked reliably and consistently. So I use the MHL for HDMI output and use a Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse...
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This is a good solution, but I'm wondering why, since 11 pin connectors usually can handle hdmi and usb otg on the same time, why old dock stations for 11 pin device don't work?

using micro 3.0 for MHL and OTG
i have a SM-G900P and if i make a OTG and MLH cable through usb 3.0 do you think i could charge and use HDMI and 2 usb for keyboard and mouse. My goal is to make my phone like a mini computer on the go for my roms and movies

Possibly use the USB 3.0 Micro-b connection?
All my googling on this matter with the S5 seems to lead to one inevitable conclusion, the S5 won't allow for simultaneous MHL and OTG use, because the S5 uses the 5pin connector and not the 11pin connector (as the S4 seemed to). What I don't understand is, isn't the S5 using USB 3.0 instead of the USB 2.0 as on the S4? How could the S5 allow for faster data transfer rates and yet not be able to transfer more types of data at once?
Isn't there a way to utilize the entire USB 3.0 micro-b format (which apparently has 10 pins, 5 for backwards compatibility with USB 2.0 (except 5pin, and not 11pin), and 5 extra for USB 3.0 speeds) to use MHL and OTG and charging simultaneously?

feeya7 said:
All my googling on this matter with the S5 seems to lead to one inevitable conclusion, the S5 won't allow for simultaneous MHL and OTG use, because the S5 uses the 5pin connector and not the 11pin connector (as the S4 seemed to). What I don't understand is, isn't the S5 using USB 3.0 instead of the USB 2.0 as on the S4? How could the S5 allow for faster data transfer rates and yet not be able to transfer more types of data at once?
Isn't there a way to utilize the entire USB 3.0 micro-b format (which apparently has 10 pins, 5 for backwards compatibility with USB 2.0 (except 5pin, and not 11pin), and 5 extra for USB 3.0 speeds) to use MHL and OTG and charging simultaneously?
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I'm having an issue with MHL adapter on my S5, When I connect my MHL adapter to my S5, the audio on my TV seems delayed, but when I tried it on my S3, the audio is perfectly fine. Is this something to do with S5 having 5 pin only wherein S3 having 11pin?
I saw a 5 pin to 11 pin converter on Amazon, will this solve this issue? And possibly the issue of not being able to use MHL/HDMI and USB at the same time?

buy chrome cast you can screen mirror or use almost any app directly to the tv when it comes to videos and such theres a little allshare
button at the top of like the video player, you tube etc.
also a smart tv does the same thing only better (all the above scenarios will only work with a connected network)

what is wrong with the image quality?

Chromecast works for me at home or anywhere it has standard wifi, but is too painful in most hotels that use a web user login. Without net access it was almost useless last time I tried. I could pair with it, but it wouldn't stream local files from my device. Most places I've stayed in the last few years have an active HDMI port on their tv, so the MHL HDMI and OTG with USB wireless mouse on an S3 worked for me, even though I couldn't charge at the same time. Haven't been able to make that work so far with anything I've tried on the S5.

Still no luck with S5 docking (MHL+OTG)
Hello!
I've been using this adapter for a while with a Samsung Galaxy S4:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MHL-...or-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-S4-Note/32461052976.html
Charging, HDMI connection and USB keyboard + mouse works very nice.
Unfortunately no luck with S5. Not even charging works. I read S5 doesn't use 11-pin USB (because of the USB 3.0 plug, etc...). If that's true, then not even installing a custom ROM would make the docking work.
According to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57336973&postcount=4, "the G800F is capable of USB OTG. It simply is not enabled in the stock firmware." I know this is about a S5 Mini, but wouldn't it be the same for the S5?

Picking the right sctive MHL cable for Note 4 ( Enyos SM-N910C 8 core )

Hi all,
I want to use my Note 4 as a PC with connected USB switch and a TV for a monitor.
What I know so far about the MHL cable:
1. It has to be active cable, with a power supply feeding from my 2A phone charger
2. Every article suggests that Note4 has 11 pin USB connector. So I can use it like a PC with such cable.
3. MHL 2.0 can transfer 1080p @ 60fps, Note 4 has MHL 2.0
What do you guys think, what cable you suggest that I should pick?
One would be the following, according to my research:
http://www.amazon.de/CSL-Adapterkab..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=1NB4JR4JTSNX4ANBM298
Cheers !

The Note 4 also supports MHL 3.0 which allows power to be drawn from the TV directly. I believe your TV must have a MHL port to utilize this to the fullest. Is this more power than coming from an power outlet? I don't know.

blindskater39 said:
The Note 4 also supports MHL 3.0 which allows power to be drawn from the TV directly. I believe your TV must have a MHL port to utilize this to the fullest. Is this more power than coming from an power outlet? I don't know.
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Hi, my TV is: http://www.samsung.com/fr/support/model/UE40ES6710SXZF
Though I want to be able to do this using every TV that has HDMI

Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !

dvd_video said:
Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !
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The cable you found should work. You may need a USB hub to use a keyboard and mouse simultaneously. I haven't tried a Bluetooth keyboard or mouse but you might be able to connect 2 devices at the same time?

Since you want to use your note 4 as a computer i recommend you to buy Samsung Smart Dock multimedia hub. I have it and my cracked screen S4 is connected to my TV and i use a wireless keyboard to browse and watch movies from showbox etc... better than any smart tv out there.
if you look on eBay you can get it cheaper, i think i bought mine for $50 almost 2yrs ago. it has 3 usb port for flash drive, keyboard mouse, hdd
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
here is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLs5EVv3B1A

mha1021 said:
Since you want to use your note 4 as a computer i recommend you to buy Samsung Smart Dock multimedia hub. I have it and my cracked screen S4 is connected to my TV and i use a wireless keyboard to browse and watch movies from showbox etc... better than any smart tv out there.
if you look on eBay you can get it cheaper, i think i bought mine for $50 almost 2yrs ago. it has 3 usb port for flash drive, keyboard mouse, hdd
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
here is a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLs5EVv3B1A
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That's nice though, if I was from US that is. Sadly this thing is no where to be found in Bulgaria ...
Check out this review:
http://www.blogyourearth.com/en/smartphone-2/samsung-multimedia-smart-dock-edd-s20jwegsta/5164

Hello, anyone ???

dvd_video said:
Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !
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blindskater39 said:
The Note 4 also supports MHL 3.0 which allows power to be drawn from the TV directly. I believe your TV must have a MHL port to utilize this to the fullest. Is this more power than coming from an power outlet? I don't know.
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blindskater39 said:
The cable you found should work. You may need a USB hub to use a keyboard and mouse simultaneously. I haven't tried a Bluetooth keyboard or mouse but you might be able to connect 2 devices at the same time?
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My Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (N910H) can use MHL cable (11 pins) without external power on my old Samsung TV that doesn't support MHL natively (I have to use USB charger when I connect my old HTC Sensation on the same TV).
I also use Bluetooth Headset & Gamepad at the same time with no lag while on my Gear VR.
But I've never tried all Bluetooth Mouse, Keyboard, Headset & Gamepad...maybe I will try it tonight
Use you charger only to charge your phone when needed
NOTE:
I use 3 old MHL cable with micro USB 5 pins to 11 pins converter & all working well, without external power source.

dvd_video said:
Also a USB switch with external power will be much appreciated thanks !
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Best solution I've found for being able to charge the phone, have USB OTG and MHL out to a TV at the same time is the Samsung Smart Media Dock:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Multimedia-Smart-Galaxy-Series-White/dp/B009KZ3XE6
...they're usually available for ~£20 on ebay. Keyboards/mice etc work fine with it. You have 3x USB ports, HDMI out and stereo headphone out (and I believe the audio over HDMI is capable of 5.1).
The one thing I can't get to work is an Xbox 360 controller (preferred over the PS3 controller I have because I'd rather wired than bluetooth). Works ok with my old S3, but the Note doesn't register it when connected. I don't know if that's a ROM/Kernel issue though, as the S3 ROM/Kernel I use has a module to enable XBox controllers.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Multimedia-Smart-Galaxy-Series-White/dp/B009KZ3XE6
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That's nice but i doubt that these guys will ship the thing to Bulgaria ( It always happens with stuff like that ). Thanks for the replay. At least I will know that to search for

Possible to activate desktop experience without the samsung dex dock?

Hey all...so....long time android user.....my very first phone was the Motorola Atrix 4G - one of the first to offer fingerprint logins to the phone AND also had a mini-hdmi out port which hooked into a special "dock" motorola manufactured to create a desktop experience....although, I think at the time it wasn't just a dock, it was like a whole mini-laptop thing with a keyboard and stuff....
ANYWAY, the point I'm making is, I think someone found a way to activate the desktop mode and all you had to do was use the hdmi-out port (the phone came with a compatible hdmi cable) and connect it to a monitor or tv and you could use a BT connected mouse and keyboard and voila! You now have the "desktop" experience without having to buy their phone-into-a-laptop-adapter.
So....is it possible to activate this experience over a usb-to-hdmi adapter? The phones already came supplied with an OTG adapter....
Anyway....would love to know if anyone knows of anything like this or has the knowledge and skill to make this happen?

Following

I believe you can get a usb c to HDMI without the need for the otg connector...don't quote me though because I lost the thread I read it in...

Might want to try this.
Dex Station for Samsung Galaxy S8 S8 Plus Note8,Type C to HDMI + USB 3.0 Female,Type-C Charger Adapter for Nintendo Switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075V4SZKB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_gtS4zbJXD5FDW

ShrekOpher said:
Might want to try this.
Dex Station for Samsung Galaxy S8 S8 Plus Note8,Type C to HDMI + USB 3.0 Female,Type-C Charger Adapter for Nintendo Switch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075V4SZKB/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_gtS4zbJXD5FDW
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Interesting.....in full disclosure, I got a Dex dock.....trying to decide if i'm going to keep it....

Seemed to find some traction for this here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/wip-samsung-s8-dex-dex-station-t3605933

Tablet with OTG+Charge

Can anyone please help me with searching of tablet which simultaneously can charge and support keyboard+mouse.
I bought a Type-C hub ( https://www.klick.ee/swissten-usb-c-hub-8in1-with-3x-usb-3-0 ) and it works perfectly with my Samsung Galaxy S20, but my Samsung Galaxy Tab A7 (2020) doesn't want to charge with it (keyboard and mouse are working when adapter is not attached).
Any ideas why this happening and what tablet can you advise to me?

serginho137 said:
Can anyone please help me with searching of tablet which simultaneously can charge and support keyboard+mouse.
I bought a Type-C hub ( https://www.klick.ee/swissten-usb-c-hub-8in1-with-3x-usb-3-0 ) and it works perfectly with my Samsung Galaxy S20, but my Samsung Galaxy Tab A7 (2020) doesn't want to charge with it (keyboard and mouse are working when adapter is not attached).
Any ideas why this happening and what tablet can you advise to me?
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Looking at the A7 specs and the S20 specs, you would notice two differences:
The A7 has a USB-C 2.0 port while the hub is a USB 3.0 hub (probably 3.1 or higher). Massive difference in capability. There are other hubs that could work, but those don't support ethernet at the same time.
The S20 supports USB on-The-Go, the A7 doesn't (at least not officially anyway).
Conclusion: Buy any Tablet from a reputable Vendor with a USB 3.0 (preferably 3.1 or higher) and an Official USB OTG certification. The rest is how much you want to pay .

Slim K said:
Looking at the A7 specs and the S20 specs, you would notice two differences:
The A7 has a USB-C 2.0 port while the hub is a USB 3.0 hub (probably 3.1 or higher). Massive difference in capability. There are other hubs that could work, but those don't support ethernet at the same time.
The S20 supports USB on-The-Go, the A7 doesn't (at least not officially anyway).
Conclusion: Buy any Tablet from a reputable Vendor with a USB 3.0 (preferably 3.1 or higher) and an Official USB OTG certification. The rest is how much you want to pay .
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Thanks for an answer!
The thing is that I tried same hub with SM-T510 (specs) and works with this tablet. I also was yesterday at the Samsung shop and vendor tried original HUB and it also didn't work. One guys on reddit told:
"CorgiLover234 I have the exact same problem. I have two QGeeM hubs that both support OTG+Charge on my S20, but neither one supports charge on my Tab A7."
So, seems that it is problem exact of this model...