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best practices to maximize battery life (and some related thoughts)

i own a stock, un-rooted Galaxy SIII on Verizon. please use this post as a general guide and as my opinion, but i take no responsibility for anything you might do to your phone (i don't think anything i suggest is sketchy or messes about with the phone anyway).
1. the graph below is your friend. you can see it by going to settings > battery and then tapping on the graph at the top of the screen.
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mobile network signal: green is good, yellow is okay, red is bad/no signal.
GPS on: self explanatory
Wi-Fi: self explanatory
Awake: if you see blue, that means the phone is working. it's processing something, it's displaying something, it's sending or receiving data, etc.
Screen on: self explanatory
if you see blue on the Awake line but no corresponding blue on the Screen on line, this means the phone is doing things while it's in your pocket and the screen is off. if this is occurring excessively, it is generally not a good thing, but it's inevitable to some degree. for instance, if you have a weather widget or Gmail syncs regularly, you will see this happen.
if the phone is off (i.e. the screen itself is not being turned on at all) for 8 hours while you're sleeping and the Awake bar is heavily littered with blue or it's a straight blue bar, then 99% of the time you have an app that's causing wakelocks, meaning it's taxing the phone without you even using it. depending on the wakelock, it can really kill your battery fast.
2. if you have lots of wakelocks, you can download an app like BetterBatteryStats. however, it costs money, and some find it to be confusing. a better way to tackle this is to check all of the sync/push settings in each of those apps.
for instance, i use apps like Instagram and Pulse. both of these apps have settings for background updates:
my advice is to uncheck these boxes whenever you can, and many apps out there will have these sort of settings. another thing to look out for are apps that have a "send anonymous usage data" option. tons of apps out there have this functionality checked by default, so you should un-check them wherever possible.
3. the stock Email app. in my limited use, it has proven to be a complete battery nightmare. if you use Gmail exclusively, then use the Gmail app and don't touch the Email app. too often, people will set up one or multiple email accounts via the stock Email app and have them all set to push notifications. this can kill your battery in 6-8 hours with the screen completely off, and the phone will get hot as well. if you absolutely have to use the Email app, make sure you change your settings to sync email once an hour or two instead of push/every five minutes.
4. if you live in an area where your signal is weak (go to settings > about phone > status to see signal strength), your phone is going to drain battery faster than if you had a strong signal, all other things equal. -70 dBm is pretty close to perfect, -90 is decent, -100 is poor, and -110 is pretty bad. likewise, if you're roaming, you will burn through your battery almost as fast as if you were watching a movie via Netflix.
5. this isn't really advertised much, but in general, when you are quitting an app, you should use the BACK button to do so, NOT the home button. the back button usually acts like an "exit" button, but the home button basically leaves that app open and takes you back to your home screen.
to test this out:
- open up Youtube, let it load, then hit your home button to take you to your home screen.
- long press the home button to bring up recently used apps.
- tap Task manager on the lower left.
- observe that Youtube is still an Active application:
now, re-load Youtube, but use your Back button to exit out of it. repeat the steps above to check Task manager and you'll see that it is no longer in the list of active applications.
there are undoubtedly some applications that don't consume much battery even though they might be in the list of "Active" applications, but i still believe that utilizing the Back button to exit apps is a good way to go about using your phone throughout the day.
final various thoughts:
- your mileage may vary, but i haven't found that leaving wifi on constantly or off constantly really makes a difference while i'm home and connected to my network vs. using cellular data (Verizon). my focus is on minimizing wakelocks, and just having wifi on with no wakelocks doesn't seem to cause excessive battery drain. i do also have a very strong signal at -70 dBm or so. i lose about 5-7% with the phone sitting next to my bed overnight. this is normal usage, and when i wake up and check the battery graph, there are only a few wakelocks (Gmail and Beautiful Widgets syncing, and not much else). in the end though, when i'm out and about, i will turn off wifi if i'm not going to be connected to a network.
- leaving bluetooth on or off doesn't really make a difference in my battery life either. i generally connect when i get in my car, but if i have it on and it isn't paired with anything all day while i'm at work, it doesn't really consume my battery at all. therefore, i leave it on all day (even though it is un-paired) and i don't notice excessive drain whatsoever.
- i usually average about 4-5 hours of screen on time over a period of ~18 hours in a normal day, with auto-brightness on.
- if you had good battery life and it started going downhill recently, think about the apps that you have recently installed. chances are really good that there's some setting in those apps that are causing wakelocks, and in turn, excessive battery drain.
- google now seems to drain my phone fast, so i disabled it altogether. it's somewhat of a neat feature, but in the end, i just leave it installed on my Nexus 7 tablet and keep it off of my phone. i have enough things drawing power on the phone as it is, and i can still do voice searches on Google and whatnot.
- i took the 4.1.1 OTA update over the weekend and got pretty marginal battery life for a day, so i decided to do a factory reset and re-do all of my screens and re-install many of my apps. i'm still tweaking it but my battery life seems to have stabilized to something close to what it was with ICS.
anyway, this got very long, but i hope it was informative. your mileage may vary but i do believe that most of these points are pretty fundamental and will apply to your phone's battery life, whether you're rooted or not.
**ADDITIONAL EDIT**
i didn't mention that i also went into settings > application manager and disabled a bunch of applications/processes, where the stock system would let me. the list of things that i disabled are:
accessories
allshare play
apps
exchange services
kies air
media hub (i use google play music)
music hub
s suggest
s voice (is pretty slow, and bad)
SNS
sync service
verizon tones
VZ navigator
i would have disabled more, but it won't allow me to without rooting and flashing a custom ROM and/or freezing/uninstalling apps with Titanium Backup.
here is a screenshot of my battery life from yesterday/last night. you can see that when my screen is off, my phone is generally not getting woken up, and as a result, my battery life has been very stable.

General How to reduce battery consumption in the Oneplus 9.

Hello everyone, I put a small tutorial to maximize the battery life of our Oneplus 9. As I describe, I have my unit configured.
If you want you can go reporting in the thread what results your terminal now show you with this configuration.
Greetings.
1.- DEACTIVATE AUTOMATIC UPDATES.
In this way we will avoid that the mobile is constantly looking for updates and therefore consuming battery.
1.1- We go to the Play Store and in Settings / General / Automatically update applications, we mark "do not update applications automatically".
1.2- Once this is done, we go to the Oxygen OS updates. We follow the path Settings / System / System Updates, we give the little wheel that is at the top right and deactivate “Automatic download in Wifi”.
2.- DEACTIVATE THE WIFI ASSISTANT.
This option allows the mobile to automatically change the network, without us having to be aware of it, but it uses the battery unnecessarily. We are going to configure it to do it manually.
We follow the route Settings / Wifi and Mobile Networks / Wifi / Wifi Preferences / Inside we go and deactivate “Select the best Wifi network intelligently”.
3.-DEACTIVATE THE PRINTING SERVICES.
We have these services to connect to printers active all the time and the phone will be constantly looking for printers so that we can connect.
We go to Settings / Bluetooth and device connection / Printing / Default printing services, when pressing it it opens, once inside we deactivate it, we will see that on the screen below, we have a red bar with a text that says "searching for printers" This way we prevent it from being in constant search.
4.- DEACTIVATE EXPERIENCE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS.
We follow the route Settings / System / Experience improvement programs and deactivate the four options:
“Oneplus Notifications”, “User Experience Program” and “System Stability Program” and “Embedded Application Update”.
5.- BATTERY OPTIMIZATION.
We follow the route Adjustment / Battery / Battery optimization. Click on the three dots on the top right and Advanced Optimization will appear. Once inside we will activate the three options that we find, "Activate adaptive battery", "Optimization of standby at rest" and "Optimize energy consumption of applications".
6.- OPTIMIZATION OF THE GOOGLE ACCOUNT.
We go to Settings, select Accounts and inside we go to the Google account and open it, once inside we choose "Synchronization", we deactivate the following options:
Google Fit data / People data / Drive / Google Play Movies / Save Play Games in the cloud / Tasks in Calendar.
If you use any of these options, don´t deactivate it or if you don´t use any of the others, deactivate it.
7.- OTHER ADJUSTMENTS.
In addition to the above settings I also have the following:
Screen, dark mode, manual brightness at 85-90%, touch sounds, screen lock sounds, capture sounds, keyboard sounds, all off, vibration off.
In Developer Options:
"Registry Buffer Size", I have it set to 1Mb.
Window Animation Level / Transitions Animation Level / Transitions Duration Level. All three are by default at 1x, I lowered all three to 0.5x.

Hi, just some quick notes:
- the search for new version of apps doesn't stop with the process you mentioned, the auto download and install process will, and in a few days or weeks you will still be forced to update to the new version as the old one won't work. Overall good option to have.
- the printing service uses a negligible amount of power and I think it even does that when you are in it, and it's idle when not using, but I might be wrong (I use it so I won't turn it off)
- be careful with battery optimisation, Oneplus already is quite known for killing apps and then you aren't getting any notifications from these (happens to my WhatsApp all the time until I remember to add it to the ignore list and for some reason it doesn't like SwiftKey as it always says its draining battery even if I use it for typing).
- point 7 has a lot in. First, your MAIN battery drainer, ask anyone, is your screen, that's why they do all these "screen on" tests, and auto brightness will use a small amount of power to have the sensor on, but it will save you much more while decreasing your brightness from 85% when not needed. The power to make the touch sound etc is so, so small it's neglected (even Nokia 3310 would last a week with them on). Registry bigger size (you mean logger?) is an option how long the buffer is, either way those messages are being recorded and sent, I doubt it makes a difference. Don't fully understand how decreasing the animation speed will save battery, probably you don't have to wait the other millisecond for the animation to finish when you do something and finish sooner what you wanted to do and then turn the screen off?
Sorry, it might seem I am really mean here, and I am sorry if it seems that way, but some don't make sense, specially the brightness. You can uninstall unused apps or use adb to disable them but your radios (like turning off 5G if not used or WiFi when not used) and your screen uses 90% of the battery. Also check your app permissions, specially GPS as that is a real hog too so if an app gets your location in the background that takes a lot

Thanks for answering.
Regarding the first, at no time do I say that the process of searching for updates stops, we stop it from installing them without us noticing, so we decide whether to update or not.
Regarding stopping the printing service, spend little or spend a lot, it uses battery. That is why it is not a single point, there are several, among all they drain the battery. If it continues to consume battery even if we deactivate it, the problem would already be Oneplus that would be lying to us and in settings it would not be giving us options even if it says so, I do not think Oneplus does that.
Point 5 is Battery optimization, it may be that Oneplus kills the applications, that is already up to each one, I try to obtain a lower battery consumption but maintaining logical use options of a smartphone. Neither in the Oneplus 8T, nor in the Oneplus 8 Pro, nor in the Oneplus 9 I have noticed that when activating this the phone kills the applications in a drastic way.
Regarding point 7 I know that the battery brightness consumes a lot of battery, more brightness more consumption. Even so I do not like to put it automatic because it does not fit my needs correctly, I like to put it with a brightness of 85-90% because where I live there are many hours of daylight and a lot of sun in this way I always see it well, but this of course this is a personal decisión. I also know that removing the tactile sound, vibration ... etc, does not remove much consumption, but between this and all the other points added everything we will achieve greater autonomy and less battery consumption and that is what it is about. It is as if all the faucets in the house leak, a faucet does not lose much water, but if we put them all together we will surely fill a big bucket.
As for increasing the size of the registration buffer, if we increase the registration buffer it is because by having a larger record size we achieve that the CPU is more freed by having less load, with this we make the CPU available for other tasks and We will be faster when playing a video or when browsing the Internet, if we must be careful and not increase the registration buffer too much because we could suffer a higher latency between audio and video in streaming videos, for example. With this we get our phone to be a little faster, without increasing battery consumption.
In the end, with all these adjustments, we achieve with each one of them small battery savings that when put together all give us greater autonomy with a longer use time before recharging our Oneplus 9, I think that is what we all want. Thank you for your interest, I hope I have been able to solve your doubts. Greetings.

Did those point but still draining battery....

OP, on my Samsung's using any power management as you described will cause erratic behavior and even a permanent increase of battery usage.
Find the battery hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services when not needed.
Disable all cloud apps. Take out the trash; FB, WhatsApp, Twitter etc shouldn't be installed as apps and are malware.
Using a package disabler or adb edits is the only way to kill some of the unneeded parasite apps on a stock phone.
Use this edit to block ads globally:
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Question GOS disabled = phone on fire?

I'm on unlocked U1 firmware AVC8 Snapdragon and I've had Game Optimizing Service manually disabled for a while now using Alliance Shield X.
COD Mobile has been running great since there's no throttling and I never get any frame drops, which was not the case when GOS was enabled, even with the alternative performance management on or off, or any type of configuration from Game Booster Plus, so I got rid of it all.
However, with the newest COD update, it feels like my phone is getting dangerously hot when only playing for about 10 minutes.
Are there any tricks or tips to reduce this? I don't want to damage my battery or phone from overheating.
I currently use Thermal Guardian but I don't notice a difference with the temperature, still gets super hot no matter what.
What settings are you guys using to run highly demanding games?
Do you have better luck with GOS enabled or disabled?
I will say the game was running just as smooth and temperatures were actually normal when I was on AVA6 before the March update, with GOS disabled.
I'm considering flashing back to AVA6 so my phone doesn't turn into Portgas D. Ace.
Any thoughts would be great, thanks.

Running like that is extremely hard on the battery, it could significantly decrease it's lifespan. The possibility of thermal damage to the mobo is also increased. Remember flash memory doesn't like high temperatures as far as memory retention goes.
Find the apps responsible and tone them down. It likely could be junk running in the background.
Clear system cache.
Disable global power management.
Disable cloud junk... yeah Google backup and Google Firebase too.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services.
Rule #1 - if the firmware is running fast, stable (and cool)... let it be. Updates can and do break things. Once I have a phone optimized I don't update it. Security is not an issue, but chasing your own tail after an update/upgrade is an issue and it can be quit time consuming.

blackhawk said:
Running like that is extremely hard on the battery, it could significantly decrease it's lifespan. The possibility of thermal damage to the mobo is also increased. Remember flash memory doesn't like high temperatures as far as memory retention goes.
Find the apps responsible and tone them down. It likely could be junk running in the background.
Clear system cache.
Disable global power management.
Disable cloud junk... yeah Google backup and Google Firebase too.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services.
Rule #1 - if the firmware is running fast, stable (and cool)... let it be. Updates can and do break things. Once I have a phone optimized I don't update it. Security is not an issue, but chasing your own tail after an update/upgrade is an issue and it can be quit time consuming.
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Yeah that's what I'm worried about, it definitely doesn't feel safe to continue playing when it gets that hot. I track my apps battery drainage pretty good with Accubattery and everything is normal, I get great battery life no complaint there, it's just the overheat. I set background process limit to 0 from developer setting before I start playing.
How do I disable global power management?
I disable useless stuff and don't let much run in the background so I doubt it's anything like that. I also clear cache partition regularly.
My RAM Plus is set to 1GB and my Processing speed is set Optimized for less heat. I'm not sure what other settings I could tinker with to reduce heat.

If it's running hot it's using battery, lots of it.
I'm running on Pie so no idea about Ram plus, but with 12gb of ram I don't even think about it other than curiosity. Try disabling it.
The power management is found in Device Care.
Lol, it never worked right, why should it now?
Rather handle power hogs on a case by case basis. Trial and error. Don't go too nuts disabling apks. Many apks just sit there and do nothing unless needed. Dozen of small Samsung system apps, be careful with them; dependencies. That may be part of what's going on.
To verify power management's status...
Developer options>standby apps If all buckets are active then global power management is not running. If you can reset the bucket state it's enable. It will cause erratic behaviors. Power management and the bucket crap is a Google brain child. Maybe it's junk, maybe Samsung didn't integrat it right, whatever... it's trouble. Androids will run fine without it.
Only fast charging should be toggle on if you want it. Changing limit background usage in individual app doesn't effect the bucket state and is ok to do if needed.
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blackhawk said:
Running like that is extremely hard on the battery, it could significantly decrease it's lifespan. The possibility of thermal damage to the mobo is also increased. Remember flash memory doesn't like high temperatures as far as memory retention goes.
Find the apps responsible and tone them down. It likely could be junk running in the background.
Clear system cache.
Disable global power management.
Disable cloud junk... yeah Google backup and Google Firebase too.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services.
Rule #1 - if the firmware is running fast, stable (and cool)... let it be. Updates can and do break things. Once I have a phone optimized I don't update it. Security is not an issue, but chasing your own tail after an update/upgrade is an issue and it can be quit time consuming.
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how do one disable google firebase?
thanks

blackhawk said:
If it's running hot it's using battery, lots of it.
I'm running on Pie so no idea about Ram plus, but with 12gb of ram I don't even think about it other than curiosity. Try disabling it.
The power management is found in Device Care.
Lol, it never worked right, why should it now?
Rather handle power hogs on a case by case basis. Trial and error. Don't go too nuts disabling apks. Many apks just sit there and do nothing unless needed. Dozen of small Samsung system apps, be careful with them; dependencies. That may be part of what's going on.
To verify power management's status...
Developer options>standby apps If all buckets are active then global power management is not running. If you can reset the bucket state it's enable. It will cause erratic behaviors. Power management and the bucket crap is a Google brain child. Maybe it's junk, maybe Samsung didn't integrat it right, whatever... it's trouble. Androids will run fine without it.
Only fast charging should be toggle on if you want it. Changing limit background usage in individual app doesn't effect the bucket state and is ok to do if needed.
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This is really helpful, thank you.

xjust said:
how do one disable google firebase?
thanks
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In the Google account settings in Android Settings, near or at the bottom. Go through all the Google settings.
Also disable carrier, Samsung, Google and 3rd party app feedfack.

those are already disabled for me, yet firebase still kicks in.
i see it clearly in google play services beta dev options , time and info of what is shared. scary stuff
i thought there is some setting inside myaccount on google that needs attention
btw. whatsapp and telegram works without playservices?

xjust said:
those are already disabled for me, yet firebase still kicks in.
i see it clearly in google play services beta dev options , time and info of what is shared. scary stuff
i thought there is some setting inside myaccount on google that needs attention
btw. whatsapp and telegram works without playservices?
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Not sure why Firebase is running if disabled. Gookill is a mess... may have something to do with another running Google app like Backup Transport which I also disable.
Get the social media apps off the device. Security risks and really nothing but trouble.
If the site isn't fully functional through the browser only, ditch it.
To get that device to tone down is going to take some effort... and maybe some sacrifices.

it might have something to do with the fact that i logged other android devices on this account or buggy firmware
took out backup transport as well
galaxy s22 is quite a mess so far no deep sleep on wifi, 2-3%/h gms
got better standby on 5 years phones with exactly the same apps/account , without even trying

or maybe nearby device wifi/bt scanning, findmyphone and firebase settings might reset on clearing data/cache for google play services ?

xjust said:
it might have something to do with the fact that i logged other android devices on this account or buggy firmware
took out backup transport as well
galaxy s22 is quite a mess so far no deep sleep on wifi, 2-3%/h gms
got better standby on 5 years phones with exactly the same apps/account , without even trying
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I always keep wifi disabled. For me it's a huge security risk and I have an unlimited data plan.
Unless I need to get Gmail, Google Play Services is always off. Playstore runs in the background too more so if Google play Services is running.
It took me a while to tone down my N10+, it was a hot running hog. Hard to believe it's the same device/firmware. Setting up my new one was a snap... lessons learned.

i will wait for 1-2 updates from this thing, if nothing works i guess its time to root the main phone again after more than 5 years

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i will wait for 1-2 updates from this thing, if nothing works i guess its time to root the main phone again after more than 5 years
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You're going to have to optimize it. Updates may just make it more complicated to optimize... hard to say. I don't update my N10+'s.
A lot of downsides to rooting Samsung's especially if under warranty. The risk of an expensive brick is not appealing to me and Snapdragon's are notoriously hard to root.
They run very well once optimized but it can be challenging and time consuming.
A package disabler is a good tool for this but not sure if it works on Android 12. It makes it a lot easier, faster and is more flexible than adb edits.
It's very useful for troubleshooting on the fly.

you think there is a way to optimize this to perform similar to my pixel 2 xl ?
smaller and older battery , bigger display resolution, 6 days standby with the same google account, sim card, and software on it.
no matter how many bloat I remove from it. its just not there
I will try disabling gms to see how it performs, but i kind of need it for some of the apps.

xjust said:
you think there is a way to optimize this to perform similar to my pixel 2 xl ?
smaller and older battery , bigger display resolution, 6 days standby with the same google account, sim card, and software on it.
no matter how many bloat I remove from it. its just not there
I will try disabling gms to see how it performs, but i kind of need it for some of the apps.
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I have about 75 apks blocked and 5 more I toggle on/off if needed.
Disable only apps that need to be disabled especially any Samsung system apps. Many only run when needed and otherwise just sit there doing nothing. Which brings me to dependencies; disabling an app or service can have unintended consequences and be hard to track down. Samsung's have many features and are very customizable, most of those apks reflect and help do that. Lol, don't turn it into a Pixel.
Play Services is a true pain. PD stopped listing it so can't use the widget now to toggle it on/off.
I open settings>apps and punch "play" the search bar to take me to it to turn it off. Note: if Find my Device is set as system Administrator it needs to be deactivated otherwise the Google play Services disable is greyed out.
If you can find a firewall that logs with Android 11/12 it be a useful tool. I use Karma Firewall but it's logging feature only works with Pie. It will still block internet access by apps but you can easily see what's accessing the internet and when. Many don't need access all the time and shouldn't have it. Blocking also prevents forced updates and once a paid app like Accubattery is activated you can hide it from their server. Otherwise if Playstore is disabled it will lose its pro version status. The Google family of apps are wretched power hungry big sisters... they need serious toning down.
Lol, my work arounds are rather extensive and evolved over time. Some require manual input from me and although I don't really think about it much now... it wasn't always this way
However a side benefit is it helps you to develop your troubleshooting skills and tools for doing it. This is also why I don't update... more trouble than it's worth.

looks like a lot of work for the results samsung should've put on from the start
it would've been a lot more sales for them if every process ran was optional for each user to decide what he wants from their 'features'
all of them combined -> dead phone
ps. google play services needs any reboot if i disable/enable it ?

xjust said:
looks like a lot of work for the results samsung should've put on from the start
it would've been a lot more sales for them if every process ran was optional for each user to decide what he wants from their 'features'
all of them combined -> dead phone
ps. google play services needs any reboot if i disable/enable it ?
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Each user and configuration is different. It's not a boring Apple. That said Samsung's been dropping the ball since the Note 10+, that's been their zenith to date.
Google Android dived down the Apple rabbit hole starting with Android 10, its a mess that gets worse the higher the version. So secure that you can't use it effectively.
Playstore and apps dependent on an active handshake from Playwhore will need a reboot, otherwise no. I reboot every couple days, but rarely use Playstore
Once I initialize the Playstore dependent apps, I firewall block them to keep them locked to their pro versions. Bite me Playstore...
Gmail doesn't care. Of course it's won't autosync but I really don't care about that. I don't want Gookill holding my hand, screw them and their hype.

Funny you mentioned apple.
I moved to android after my iphone 6 couldn't last half a day. had most iphones since the first one
maybe its time to move back

xjust said:
Funny you mentioned apple.
I moved to android after my iphone 6 couldn't last half a day. had most iphones since the first one
maybe its time to move back
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Android's scoped storage remains a never ending tale of disaster. Google's long standing nose up attitude of expandable storage in favor of their cloud crap only makes matters worse.
Samsung and Google are inept malakas. You don't compete with Apple by mirroring Apple's mistakes...

[Note 10+] When Setting no screen lock, device unlocks on its own

I prefer not having a screen lock over swipe for a couple reasons. Anyways I found that for some reason, after receiving any form of notification, text, email, etc; the device will unlock on its own. I just factory reset the device right now and It's still doing it. So obviously this is an intended feature. So dumb. Also since charging causes a notification to appear on my screen, that will unlock it as well. Is there a solution for this via third party tools? I really don't want to have to go back to swipe if I can.
Thanks in advance.

I use double tap on/off for my N10+'s.
The screen notifications you want not to show?
They don't cause any harm, use much battery, and not a security risk other than what they display as they are automatically isolated by the firmware and have limited functionality.
Double Tap works on Android 9 and 10 but maybe not 11.

Double tapping to unlock screen is a native feature of the no lock screen type. The problem is, notifications automatically cause the screen to unlock. This seems like an intended behavior for android because I noticed this on the past 3 androids I've used.
My question is, can this be fixed with some third party tool?

tworla said:
Double tapping to unlock screen is a native feature of the no lock screen type. The problem is, notifications automatically cause the screen to unlock. This seems like an intended behavior for android because I noticed this on the past 3 androids I've used.
My question is, can this be fixed with some third party tool?
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The Double tap app lets you turn off the display too by double tapping.
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The Double tap app lets you turn off the display too by double tapping.
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It looks like in the newest version of android they fixed the unlocking issue with notifications when using no screen lock, however, my device unlocks itself after charging has been disconnected (whether by cable or wireless). Also annoying. Does this app you mentioned fix that too?

tworla said:
It looks like in the newest version of android they fixed the unlocking issue with notifications when using no screen lock, however, my device unlocks itself after charging has been disconnected (whether by cable or wireless). Also annoying. Does this app you mentioned fix that too?
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My N10+ is always unlocked, no password, fingerprint, etc are/were ever set. It's normal behavior for the screen to come on after unplugging the charger. I tap it off if I don't want to use it...
Lock screen notifications aren't an issue at least on Pie, haven't checked my N10+ running on Android 10
I can enable or disable them as I please. They consume little power. Tap on AOD however does save about .5%@hr of battery.

blackhawk said:
My N10+ is always unlocked, no password, fingerprint, etc are/were ever set. It's normal behavior for the screen to come on after unplugging the charger. I tap it off if I don't want to use it...
Lock screen notifications aren't an issue at least on Pie, haven't checked my N10+ running on Android 10
I can enable or disable them as I please. They consume little power. Tap on AOD however does save about .5%@hr of battery.
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Is there a way to stop my screen from unlocking after charging is paused with a third party app? Its just one more android annoyance I am trying to resolve after I recently had to reset my phone. Next time I will use apple because I find that 90% of the so called "superior android customizations" that I make are just to fix oversights of the platform itself.

tworla said:
Is there a way to stop my screen from unlocking after charging is paused with a third party app? Its just one more android annoyance I am trying to resolve after I recently had to reset my phone. Next time I will use apple because I find that 90% of the so called "superior android customizations" that I make are just to fix oversights of the platform itself.
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What's the issue in that it does this?
Power off phone, charge... problem solved.
I never considered this an issue at all.
The N10+ is a better phone than any Apple. No Apple display can touch the N10+'s display color rendering index specs. No SD card, no spen and no control over the firmware... Apple sucks.

blackhawk said:
What's the issue in that it does this?
Power off phone, charge... problem solved.
I never considered this an issue at all.
The N10+ is a better phone than any Apple. No Apple display can touch the N10+'s display color rendering index specs. No SD card, no spen and no control over the firmware... Apple sucks.
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The whole point of android is that it is "more customizable" to accommodate different users' preferences.
When you have dozens of small oversights like this, it collectively adds up to a poor and unsatisfactory expiereince.
So you are telling me I should power off my phone as a "fix" to the screen unlocking itself ON ITS OWN? What if I am getting ready to put it in my pocket? You probably don't want your device unlocked in your pocket for an extended period of time do you? So to prevent that, it would require user input to relock the screen.
So in a nutshell, android made a feature that is useless and annoying 9 times out of 10 with no disable option... If this feature requires your input to return to the previous state 9 times out of 10 or more, then that is a feature that causes unwanted outcomes 90% of the time. Look up the definition of annoying.
The complaints you are listing about iPhone are not design flaws or oversights like this. Most people don't need SD cards unless you download an excessive amount of "videos" and music. The s-pen is not even fully supported by samsung apps, as there is no way to globally disable finger touch input when writing causing unwanted actions to be performed, making the whole thing just a samsung marketing gimmick. There are styluses that you can purchase for iPhone, that can fit inside a holster, in the rare case that one would need a stylus for a smartphone.
Long story short, apple just has better design choices. It took android 10 years to disable notification unlock when using no screen lock, so what does that tell you? The latest gripe I have now besides this that caused my whole device to be bricked is the stupid system notifications that cannot be disabled. I thought android was more customizable?

tworla said:
The whole point of android is that it is "more customizable" to accommodate different users' preferences.
When you have dozens of small oversights like this, it collectively adds up to a poor and unsatisfactory expiereince.
So you are telling me I should power off my phone as a "fix" to the screen unlocking itself ON ITS OWN? What if I am getting ready to put it in my pocket? You probably don't want your device unlocked in your pocket for an extended period of time do you? So to prevent that, it would require user input to relock the screen.
So in a nutshell, android made a feature that is useless and annoying 9 times out of 10 with no disable option... If this feature requires your input to return to the previous state 9 times out of 10 or more, then that is a feature that causes unwanted outcomes 90% of the time. Look up the definition of annoying.
The complaints you are listing about iPhone are not design flaws or oversights like this. Most people don't need SD cards unless you download an excessive amount of "videos" and music. The s-pen is not even fully supported by samsung apps, as there is no way to globally disable finger touch input when writing causing unwanted actions to be performed, making the whole thing just a samsung marketing gimmick. There are styluses that you can purchase for iPhone, that can fit inside a holster, in the rare case that one would need a stylus for a smartphone.
Long story short, apple just has better design choices. It took android 10 years to disable notification unlock when using no screen lock, so what does that tell you? The latest gripe I have now besides this that caused my whole device to be bricked is the stupid system notifications that cannot be disabled. I thought android was more customizable?
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Your initial complaint was it going screen after unplugging the charger?
In pocket turn ons... turn display away from skin.
A good case like the Zizo Bolt helps prevent this too; a good case is mandatory for this phone or it will be destroyed.
I really don't have any of these issues with my N10+'s. They run great, fast with good battery life, are stock, heavily optimized and customized.
They behave almost exactly how I want them to.
An Apple* can't touch them.
You need a basic understanding of the Android variant you own to do this, gained largely by just playing with them, but I read a lot as well.
But by all means go to an iPhone... they work.
*I've used Apples for work... never would have one for personal use. Far too limited and hamstringed... by design.

Question Sometimes Only Receive Texts After Restart

Hey All,
So I have an unlocked S22 Ultra and have my Verizon SIM card installed. Over the last week or 2 I have noticed that occasionally, not all the time I will notice I am not receiving text messages. Once I realize it has been hours I will restart my phone. Once I restart, the text messages come flooding in. Does anyone have any idea what can be causing this and a possible fix/resolution?
Thanks.

Is global power management active?
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise global power management is active. It will cause erratic behaviors. It's not needed or desirable, it never did work well. It can not be disable here though.
Example: how its controls appear on a Samsung N10+ in Device Care, battery, it's usually a little buried but it's there. You'll find something similar to this. It's part of the core Android system.
These settings will cause trouble...
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blackhawk said:
Is global power management active?
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise global power management is active. It will cause erratic behaviors. It's not needed or desirable, it never did work well. It can not be disable here though.
Example: how its controls appear on a Samsung N10+ in Device Care, battery, it's usually a little buried but it's there. You'll find something similar to this. It's part of the core Android system.
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So here is an example of my screen when I go into Dev Options > Standby Apps. Looks like global power management is active. I can't find the settings page of your screenshot on my S22 however. I can tell you that I do have adaptive battery enabled but I can't seem to find those other settings. Thanks.

pettigrew95 said:
So here is an example of my screen when I go into Dev Options > Standby Apps. Looks like global power management is active. I can't find the settings page of your screenshot on my S22 however. I can tell you that I do have adaptive battery enabled but I can't seem to find those other settings. Thanks.
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Yeap it's active and raising hell.
Doesn't even do much in terms of power savings and can even make it worse even after its "adapted"
Look around, the setting for it is there. On individual apps toggling the don't use battery in the background does not invoke global power management.

blackhawk said:
Yeap it's active and raising hell.
Doesn't even do much in terms of power savings and can even make it worse even after its "adapted"
Look around, the setting for it is there. On individual apps toggling the don't use battery in the background does not invoke global power management.
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Ok I will poke around the settings. So are you saying for me to disable adaptive battery and then to also disable all of the other settings you circled in your original post screenshot? Thanks for the help on this.

pettigrew95 said:
Ok I will poke around the settings. So are you saying for me to disable adaptive battery and then to also disable all of the other settings you circled in your original post screenshot? Thanks for the help on this.
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They're not needed which is why they're disabled.
Just tested them; it's adaptive battery that invokes it.

blackhawk said:
They're not needed which is why they're disabled.
Just tested them; it's adaptive battery that invokes it.
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So does that mean that all I need to do is disable adaptive battery and the rest takes care of itself?

pettigrew95 said:
So does that mean that all I need to do is disable adaptive battery and the rest takes care of itself?
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Yes, if that's the cause. It's a known troublemaker. For me if listening to Poweramp via bt it will kill it in a few minutes, very annoying if you don't know where to look.
If you disabled any of the many small Samsung system apks, that may be the cause. Most use little or no resources and are best left alone.

blackhawk said:
Yes, if that's the cause. It's a known troublemaker. For me if listening to Poweramp via bt it will kill it in a few minutes, very annoying if you don't know where to look.
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Ok, I just disabled it and restarted the phone, fingers crossed! Thanks so much for the advice!

pettigrew95 said:
Ok I will poke around the settings. So are you saying for me to disable adaptive battery and then to also disable all of the other settings you circled in your original post screenshot? Thanks for the help on this.
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You don't need to disable Adaptive Battery. Add your texting app to never sleeping apps.
Device Care - > Battery - > Background usage limits - > Never sleeping apps. Hit the plus sign and add the apps you don't want to sleep.

gernerttl said:
You don't need to disable Adaptive Battery. Add your texting app to never sleeping apps.
Device Care - > Battery - > Background usage limits - > Never sleeping apps. Hit the plus sign and add the apps you don't want to sleep.
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In my case that solution didn't work and it continued to misbehave anyway...
Adaptive battery never worked right. It never adapted even after a week and the excessive battery drain continued unabated.
Deal with power hogs on a case by case basis instead. Android will run better without it once optimized.
Lazy solutions yield inferior results.

blackhawk said:
Yes, if that's the cause. It's a known troublemaker. For me if listening to Poweramp via bt it will kill it in a few minutes, very annoying if you don't know where to look.
If you disabled any of the many small Samsung system apks, that may be the cause. Most use little or no resources and are best left alone.
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Just a quick update. I did disable adaptive battery and I noticed a major difference in my battery life (much worse). I re-enabled adaptive battery and it seems to have taken a week or so for my battery life to be where it was at pre-disabling of adaptive battery. What I did was just go into the messages app settings and set it to unrestricted and so far so good.

pettigrew95 said:
Just a quick update. I did disable adaptive battery and I noticed a major difference in my battery life (much worse). I re-enabled adaptive battery and it seems to have taken a week or so for my battery life to be where it was at pre-disabling of adaptive battery. What I did was just go into the messages app settings and set it to unrestricted and so far so good.
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It needs to be optimized. Adaptive battery is a lame stop gap measure. An optimized device produces superior SOT and standby mode battery times. I tried it all different kinds of ways, for months... it was too much fun
An optimized N10+ gets double the battery life...

blackhawk said:
It needs to be optimized. Adaptive battery is a lame stop gap measure. An optimized device produces superior SOT and standby mode battery times. I tried it all different kinds of ways, for months... it was too much fun
An optimized N10+ gets double the battery life...
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Is there a guide on this? I'd love to be able to get those metrics. My battery life went to hell when I disabled adaptive battery.

pettigrew95 said:
Is there a guide on this? I'd love to be able to get those metrics. My battery life went to hell when I disabled adaptive battery.
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Don't listen to him, you do as you please with Adaptive battery if you are seeing the results for itself.
He has a Note 10+ running Android 9 or 10, not a S22 Ultra with Android 12.
You did it the correct way, which was go into Messages and put it to Unrestricted.
You can do that for every app which you need notifications from at all times. I have it set like that for my email app, Outlook for work, Whatsapp, etc.

pettigrew95 said:
Is there a guide on this? I'd love to be able to get those metrics. My battery life went to hell when I disabled adaptive battery.
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I pretty much hunted the hogs down one by one.
Then I try optimize the app by settings if it was useful. Otherwise disable it usually with Package Disabler. To blindly use a list will cause trouble as you don't know what or how the app function or their dependencies if any. Each user is unique and so will be their lists and solutions.
The learning curse is a bit steeper with Androids to get the most out of them. It's sort of like asking someone how to use a computer. No simple answer other then to play with until you have specific questions to ask. I play with my N10+ on and off when bored or have an issue.
I never do firmware updates or upgrades as this will create issues. Most apps I never update either. Don't change the playing field if the device is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission.

Kris_b1104 said:
Don't listen to him, you do as you please with Adaptive battery if you are seeing the results for itself.
He has a Note 10+ running Android 9 or 10, not a S22 Ultra with Android 12.
You did it the correct way, which was go into Messages and put it to Unrestricted.
You can do that for every app which you need notifications from at all times. I have it set like that for my email app, Outlook for work, Whatsapp, etc.
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Lol, adaptive battery never work right. I'm getting 11-12hrs SOT with a derated 3600 mAh battery.
Of course if I followed your advice I get the same lousy SOT as you do even if I had a new battery.
If I didn't optimize and didn't use adaptive battery the SOT be even worse.
Adaptive battery is a bandaid for the lazy and inept, but you're still gonna be ozzing cpu cycles.