Hey All,
So I have an unlocked S22 Ultra and have my Verizon SIM card installed. Over the last week or 2 I have noticed that occasionally, not all the time I will notice I am not receiving text messages. Once I realize it has been hours I will restart my phone. Once I restart, the text messages come flooding in. Does anyone have any idea what can be causing this and a possible fix/resolution?
Thanks.
Is global power management active?
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise global power management is active. It will cause erratic behaviors. It's not needed or desirable, it never did work well. It can not be disable here though.
Example: how its controls appear on a Samsung N10+ in Device Care, battery, it's usually a little buried but it's there. You'll find something similar to this. It's part of the core Android system.
These settings will cause trouble...
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
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"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
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blackhawk said:
Is global power management active?
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise global power management is active. It will cause erratic behaviors. It's not needed or desirable, it never did work well. It can not be disable here though.
Example: how its controls appear on a Samsung N10+ in Device Care, battery, it's usually a little buried but it's there. You'll find something similar to this. It's part of the core Android system.
These settings will cause trouble...
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So here is an example of my screen when I go into Dev Options > Standby Apps. Looks like global power management is active. I can't find the settings page of your screenshot on my S22 however. I can tell you that I do have adaptive battery enabled but I can't seem to find those other settings. Thanks.
pettigrew95 said:
So here is an example of my screen when I go into Dev Options > Standby Apps. Looks like global power management is active. I can't find the settings page of your screenshot on my S22 however. I can tell you that I do have adaptive battery enabled but I can't seem to find those other settings. Thanks.
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Yeap it's active and raising hell.
Doesn't even do much in terms of power savings and can even make it worse even after its "adapted"
Look around, the setting for it is there. On individual apps toggling the don't use battery in the background does not invoke global power management.
blackhawk said:
Yeap it's active and raising hell.
Doesn't even do much in terms of power savings and can even make it worse even after its "adapted"
Look around, the setting for it is there. On individual apps toggling the don't use battery in the background does not invoke global power management.
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Ok I will poke around the settings. So are you saying for me to disable adaptive battery and then to also disable all of the other settings you circled in your original post screenshot? Thanks for the help on this.
pettigrew95 said:
Ok I will poke around the settings. So are you saying for me to disable adaptive battery and then to also disable all of the other settings you circled in your original post screenshot? Thanks for the help on this.
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They're not needed which is why they're disabled.
Just tested them; it's adaptive battery that invokes it.
blackhawk said:
They're not needed which is why they're disabled.
Just tested them; it's adaptive battery that invokes it.
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So does that mean that all I need to do is disable adaptive battery and the rest takes care of itself?
pettigrew95 said:
So does that mean that all I need to do is disable adaptive battery and the rest takes care of itself?
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Yes, if that's the cause. It's a known troublemaker. For me if listening to Poweramp via bt it will kill it in a few minutes, very annoying if you don't know where to look.
If you disabled any of the many small Samsung system apks, that may be the cause. Most use little or no resources and are best left alone.
blackhawk said:
Yes, if that's the cause. It's a known troublemaker. For me if listening to Poweramp via bt it will kill it in a few minutes, very annoying if you don't know where to look.
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Ok, I just disabled it and restarted the phone, fingers crossed! Thanks so much for the advice!
pettigrew95 said:
Ok I will poke around the settings. So are you saying for me to disable adaptive battery and then to also disable all of the other settings you circled in your original post screenshot? Thanks for the help on this.
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You don't need to disable Adaptive Battery. Add your texting app to never sleeping apps.
Device Care - > Battery - > Background usage limits - > Never sleeping apps. Hit the plus sign and add the apps you don't want to sleep.
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You don't need to disable Adaptive Battery. Add your texting app to never sleeping apps.
Device Care - > Battery - > Background usage limits - > Never sleeping apps. Hit the plus sign and add the apps you don't want to sleep.
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In my case that solution didn't work and it continued to misbehave anyway...
Adaptive battery never worked right. It never adapted even after a week and the excessive battery drain continued unabated.
Deal with power hogs on a case by case basis instead. Android will run better without it once optimized.
Lazy solutions yield inferior results.
blackhawk said:
Yes, if that's the cause. It's a known troublemaker. For me if listening to Poweramp via bt it will kill it in a few minutes, very annoying if you don't know where to look.
If you disabled any of the many small Samsung system apks, that may be the cause. Most use little or no resources and are best left alone.
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Just a quick update. I did disable adaptive battery and I noticed a major difference in my battery life (much worse). I re-enabled adaptive battery and it seems to have taken a week or so for my battery life to be where it was at pre-disabling of adaptive battery. What I did was just go into the messages app settings and set it to unrestricted and so far so good.
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Just a quick update. I did disable adaptive battery and I noticed a major difference in my battery life (much worse). I re-enabled adaptive battery and it seems to have taken a week or so for my battery life to be where it was at pre-disabling of adaptive battery. What I did was just go into the messages app settings and set it to unrestricted and so far so good.
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It needs to be optimized. Adaptive battery is a lame stop gap measure. An optimized device produces superior SOT and standby mode battery times. I tried it all different kinds of ways, for months... it was too much fun
An optimized N10+ gets double the battery life...
blackhawk said:
It needs to be optimized. Adaptive battery is a lame stop gap measure. An optimized device produces superior SOT and standby mode battery times. I tried it all different kinds of ways, for months... it was too much fun
An optimized N10+ gets double the battery life...
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Is there a guide on this? I'd love to be able to get those metrics. My battery life went to hell when I disabled adaptive battery.
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Is there a guide on this? I'd love to be able to get those metrics. My battery life went to hell when I disabled adaptive battery.
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Don't listen to him, you do as you please with Adaptive battery if you are seeing the results for itself.
He has a Note 10+ running Android 9 or 10, not a S22 Ultra with Android 12.
You did it the correct way, which was go into Messages and put it to Unrestricted.
You can do that for every app which you need notifications from at all times. I have it set like that for my email app, Outlook for work, Whatsapp, etc.
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Is there a guide on this? I'd love to be able to get those metrics. My battery life went to hell when I disabled adaptive battery.
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I pretty much hunted the hogs down one by one.
Then I try optimize the app by settings if it was useful. Otherwise disable it usually with Package Disabler. To blindly use a list will cause trouble as you don't know what or how the app function or their dependencies if any. Each user is unique and so will be their lists and solutions.
The learning curse is a bit steeper with Androids to get the most out of them. It's sort of like asking someone how to use a computer. No simple answer other then to play with until you have specific questions to ask. I play with my N10+ on and off when bored or have an issue.
I never do firmware updates or upgrades as this will create issues. Most apps I never update either. Don't change the playing field if the device is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission.
Kris_b1104 said:
Don't listen to him, you do as you please with Adaptive battery if you are seeing the results for itself.
He has a Note 10+ running Android 9 or 10, not a S22 Ultra with Android 12.
You did it the correct way, which was go into Messages and put it to Unrestricted.
You can do that for every app which you need notifications from at all times. I have it set like that for my email app, Outlook for work, Whatsapp, etc.
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Lol, adaptive battery never work right. I'm getting 11-12hrs SOT with a derated 3600 mAh battery.
Of course if I followed your advice I get the same lousy SOT as you do even if I had a new battery.
If I didn't optimize and didn't use adaptive battery the SOT be even worse.
Adaptive battery is a bandaid for the lazy and inept, but you're still gonna be ozzing cpu cycles.
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Hey everyone,
Lately I've been in the works of trying to get better battery life, as I only get about 2 - 2.5 hours of on screen time. I've seen other users get anywhere between 5-7 hours. I do use facebook, and have uninstalled the official facebook app for the friendcaster one, but have yet to still hit anywhere near that amount of time.
Out of curiosity, and hopefully future reference for other users, what are some great ways to boost battery life? Do you use apps? Uninstall software? Please, do share!
justin0025 said:
Hey everyone,
Lately I've been in the works of trying to get better battery life, as I only get about 2 - 2.5 hours of on screen time. I've seen other users get anywhere between 5-7 hours. I do use facebook, and have uninstalled the official facebook app for the friendcaster one, but have yet to still hit anywhere near that amount of time.
Out of curiosity, and hopefully future reference for other users, what are some great ways to boost battery life? Do you use apps? Uninstall software? Please, do share!
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Manually controlling screen brightness was the biggest increase for me. The other one that helped was 2g data when i turn off the screen.
Freeeeze apps with Titanium Backup. You wont miss anything neither you loose perfomance, no you gain.
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Change notification updates to suit your needs. Stuff that you don't need to know right away, lower frequency or turn to manual. For instance:
- Change weather updates to every 1-2 hours, unless you really need to know that it changed by a couple degrees as it does.
- Decrease facebook notifications (big one. If you use it a lot, then keep it high, but realize that this WILL drain battery.)
- Manually update stocks (again, if you don't need them instantaneously)
- Blog & News apps usually set notifications on by default, disable or lower frequency on them
- Lower screen brightness
- Turn display to auto sleep 30sec-1min tops
Note that while some of the notification controls can be found within the system settings, many apps will require you to go to their individual settings to adjust them.
All depends what you do with it. Navigation, internet, talk time and intense games all suck up more battery. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do that stuff, but it's just the way it is on any device.
Simple, root and install CPU sleeper, that should give u a lot of battery life.. at least that's how I do it and today I unplugged my phone at 10 am and its 9:25 and I have 65% left
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justin0025 said:
Hey everyone,
Lately I've been in the works of trying to get better battery life, as I only get about 2 - 2.5 hours of on screen time. I've seen other users get anywhere between 5-7 hours. I do use facebook, and have uninstalled the official facebook app for the friendcaster one, but have yet to still hit anywhere near that amount of time.
Out of curiosity, and hopefully future reference for other users, what are some great ways to boost battery life? Do you use apps? Uninstall software? Please, do share!
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Almost all of em are running on custom roms I beat and I'm the one you said that with 5 - 7 hours screen time everyday. There are many things to do to maximum the battery performance and first thing is root and unlock your phone and flash a custom rom. If you are on stock rom, it would be almost a no go.
1. Flash ViperOneS 1.2 rom or One maximuS V2.5 rom, they are the best sense based rom with the greatest battery performance I've seen.
2. If you don't need sense, flash cm10 or aokp. They should give you more battery because they aren't as resources hog as sense. However, you couldn't use sense UI and access to the dedicated image chip in camera.
3. Turn the brightness level down to as low as possible, this is the major battery killer.
4. Switch to 2G when you are in standby mode. Disable fast dormancy, it will save you battery in standby mode at the cost of connection speed when you surf web it will be slower but it does save you some battery in standby status. You can disable it in ViperOneS's tweaking but you'll have to do it manually in all other roms but that is very very easy. Personally, I let it on because the 3G speed isn't good in Hong Kong, too many iphone/android everywhere here, over crowed. In every street in HK are messed up by SGS3/Note/Note2/Iphone, think about how horrible it is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684604
5. Turn off wifi when you don't use it, disable max performance in wifi setting. Turn the auto-sync off when you don't need it too.
6. Just remove all apps and bloatware you don't want. When you flash ViperOneS/maximuS 's add-on, you will have a list to do it.
7. Some bloatware will still be there after flash the add-on. You have to download systemapp remover to del those apps.
8. Some apps like to run as services mode and they drain battery in background like youtube, google map, playstore. You need to download AutoStarts and force them to disable as an auto-startup services after bootup.
9. Download Systempanel and check any non-system apps running at services mode in background. Force them stop in control panel. I only have four non-system apps let them running as services like whatsapp.
10. Don't run too many widgets, I only have two widgets on. Don't use 3D wallpaper.
11. Use opera mobile to surf web. The stock browser and chrome should faster but sometimes they drain battery real quick.
12. Turn the cpu mhz down when you are just doing some normal/easy works because the stock kernel has very suck governor performance(only ages governor: on-demand, save battery, max performance) and drains battery fast. Turn the cpu mhz back to high level only when you play games, this will save you great battery. Don't worry S4 CPU is still very powerful even you set it to half speed. You can flash custom kernel if you don't like to turn cpu speed up/down, they introduce more efficiency governors to handle it automatically but all 3rd kernels are likely to have some bugs at this time. There aren't many active developers out there.
13. After a heavy or long using like a full battery cycle, reboot the OS to clean up the cache/memory leak.
14. Use nova launcher or apex launcher to replace the sense launcher.
Well, I basically do ALL the stuffs above and got 5 ~ 7hrs screen time. Today, I do surf the web like mad(4hrs), 1hr 720p movie(software decode in MX Player as it's a rmvb movie), 30mins+ music with poweramp. Guess what? I got exactly 5hrs screen time and 1% battery left when I get back to home, very lucky though. I think my usage is a bit high today, normally I have 6hrs screen time average.
A lot of people on stock ROMs can get that sort of battery life too.
This is mine on stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27010378#post27010378
Also wrote a quick guide, pretty similar to the above:
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Leave "best wifi performance" turned off.
Disable any apps that you don't need in settings>apps>click on app>disable at top right
Don't have weather etc. syncing every 30 minutes etc. set to something like 2 or 3 hours.
Manually control the screen brightness as auto makes the battery life worse, install qbright from the market and set a gesture so when you swipe up or down on the homescreen or dock icons this app is opened like the below:
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
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"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
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I have it set to currently; night is 0%, indoor 30%, outdoor 50% and sunshine 70%
Keep wifi on as much as possible and set to never sleep
Keep GSM mode selected instead of WCDMA in mobile network settings as one; the voice reception is stronger and better battery life even when connected to wifi I found.
If you aren't going to be using any internet at all for quite while (meaning no need for weather, emails to sync etc.) then turn wifi and mobile network data off.
Only enable WCDMA when you want to browse or stream something (only when wifi is not possible)
Don't use any form of a task killer, if an app isn't responding just use the built in one.
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WOW! Thanks guys! I'll definitely be trying these tips today.
Lets keep'em coming!
I'm running CM10 and all I did was lower my CPU clock to 1134 and I get great battery life. I also try to keep my wifi off as often as possible. I have auto-brightness and auto-sync on and usually get 6-7 hours and don't have to charge it all day. I prefer being able to use the better governers on top of the decreased frequency, but I haven't been able to get the Fusion AOSP kernel working on CM10 for quite some time.
Jewcifer said:
I'm running CM10 and all I did was lower my CPU clock to 1134 and I get great battery life. I also try to keep my wifi off as often as possible. I have auto-brightness and auto-sync on and usually get 6-7 hours and don't have to charge it all day. I prefer being able to use the better governers on top of the decreased frequency, but I haven't been able to get the Fusion AOSP kernel working on CM10 for quite some time.
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I've always thought about under-clocking my CPU. I'll give that a try too. I'm sure i don't need the full 1.5ghz. I'll play around with them and see which will fit my needs .
My battery lasts twice as much just by turning the mobile internet off. I turn it on only when I need to surf the web/sync my apps and turn it back off right after.:victory:
Change governor to smartass2 and set your max CPU frequency at 1ghz. Also you can install app called llama for profiles switching and battery saving.
Welcome to the new Battery Life Help thread.
Please post the recommended screen shots from post 4 when posting here.... Or you will only get guesses as replies... If you get any.
Read the first 4 posts here before posting. You may not even need to post after you have!
If you are on a device other than a Nexus 5, that's fine, but please state that up front.... Or things may get confusing for all of us. ?
I'm not the "technician" of this thread, as there are many knowledgeable members on battery life savings and troubleshooting. Sometimes opinions vary... And that's always how things are...especially on the interwebz. Usually that's a good thing.
All are encouraged to participate!!!!
Most battery issues are non device specific.... Most. And troubleshooting is almost universal. Occasionally there's device specific issues and bugs, but mostly its about basic setup and usage patterns. No matter the device.
So, some guidelines to make finding issues efficient. (A lot of this won't be possible if you are not rooted....so do your best)
1. Please please please.....use Gsam (my favorite) or Better Battery Stats (BBS) or Wakelock Detector when posting screenshots. No one can stop you from posting shots from the stock battery usage screens in settings....but 9 times out of 10 you'll be asked to use one of the above apps....cause the stock screens say to little to be useful finding an issue. Just install one of the apps. Use it until your issue is solved...then get rid of it if you wish. Tho really, they are great tools to have, and NO, they don't consume heavy amounts of battery life. At all.
2. No screenshots will probably get you no useful help. As any attempt to assist you would just be guesses and generic tips.
3. As of Kit Kat, you either need an xposed module found Here or if you use Gsam, also install Gsam Root Companion. Both found on Play Store. Without any of those, you can't see wakelocks in Kit Kat.
4. Here are the standard screenshots that will get you the quickest help. In Gsam anyway....or the equivalent screens in the other apps.
For Gsam, you should post....
- The main screen.
- App sucker screen.
(In app sucker, click the drop down for the rest...)
- Times waking device.
- Time held Awake.
- Kernel wakelocks.
Yes, that is 5 screenshots. A lot I know. But together those will give almost all the info needed to help you. Usually.
5. Obviously, above your screenshots, post your issue in as much detail as possible. Like your setup (location on or off... Gnow on or off...screen settings...signal strength on Data especially... And anything else you feel may matter) and your usage. Gaming? Navigation? Etc.
All of the above will lead to much quicker help, without the need for people trying to help having to ask you a bunch of questions.
Be patient!! Some battery issues are very hard to lock down.....but 95.6 percent of them can eventually be solved. And remember....usage plays a big part! You may be stuck with 3 hours screen on time because of your usage. Sorry. Games for example. And a really poor signal strength while on data is a battery death march.
Tips for better Battery Life
These tips are going to be a collection of all I know, as well as contributions from you guys over time...that I will add in. Unless of course I completely disagree. Lol. (I.E. Task killers, Juice Defender type apps....etc)
First thing is first, since it seems to cause the most problems......and so many can't live without it. Lol. Location Services.
Location Services
Location Services is so very poorly implemented in Android, its almost absurd. The service itself isn't so much to blame for battery issues, but its weakness to getting exploited by other apps. Social apps being the worst offenders. Its also very hard to pin down the offending apps. Yes, many have no issue with location services. They're the lucky ones. Sooooo many do lose a tonne of battery life to it tho, usually by excessive wakes caused by apps accessing it.
So, my first piece of advice. TURN IT OFF! Use your toggles. On when needed, off when done. It doesn't take long, its a couple clicks. Guaranteed you see FAR greater battery life because of it.
If you must use it....just must.....know that Batter Saver is NOT the most battery friendly setting. Device only is. (GPS only). Don't know why, talk to Google for an explanation. Signal strength for data I bet. And of course, high accuracy will drop your battery the quickest.
Location history reporting. Battery killer.
Android Device Manager. Found in Google settings app. "Remotely locate this device", battery killer. Neat feature....but will cost you battery time. And the other option, "remote lock and erase"....surely takes its share of the battery pie also.
So, device only is your best bet, but not so great indoors. Probably won't find the satellites. But it will be far better on your Juice. One way to use location on and help stop apps from abusing it, is Grrenifying the apps that use it, or using app ops or its equivalent to change app permissions and disallow them location permission.
K, I bashed on location enough. But it is the number one item in most issues I see.
Signal Strength
A weak signal is about the quickest drain a phone can have. If your signal is very weak and spending time out of service and scanning for a signal.....your battery can literally drop like a rock. The worst part, Gsam and similar apps don't really indicate the signal, radio or anything else is draining your battery. I'm not sure why these apps can't report the loss from signal, but I guess its just not possible.
Very hard to "fix" this issue.
- Your first option, get on WiFi. Its not really the text and phone part of the radio draining you, its data. If your signal is poor or non existent and apps are trying to sync over data.....the phone is working overtime trying to transfer the data. Getting on WiFi will fix this. Even with poor signal strength on the radio.
- Next option, toggle off data in poor coverage. No, your social apps and what not won't work. But you'll still get texts and calls. When you have a signal. This will dramatically slow the battery drain.
- Last option. Airplane mode. Yes, you will be completely cut off from the world. But your battery will barely drop.....assuming you have no issues and your standby drain is good.
Of course, combine poor signal with location services on high accuracy or battery savings....with data on....and you will be charging by lunch time or have a dead phone.
Roms and Kernels
I won't say much about this. There's those who will agree with me and those that always ask "what's the best ROM/kernel for battery life?". MOST experienced users will agree....ROM/kernel combos will make minor differences occasionally. Its all about setup and usage.....and signal strength.
I always say.....I could run any ROM or kernel (and I almost have) and will still get 24 hours plus with 6 hours SoT consistently, with my lean setup and low CPU demand usage. Guaranteed. Now, if you want me to prove it.....I wanna be paid for my time. And I'm not cheap.
Kernel tweaking, such as under volting/clocking, may gain you small battery life returns at best. And also possible lag and instability. Lots will disagree with me here. But thoroughly test it out yourself and see. ��
But to each their own I always say. Personally, I can't remember the last time I changed any kernel settings from whatever one I'm running. I just don't see the point. Fun and experimentation perhaps.....but big battery savings.....not gonna happen.
Last kernel thing......double tap to wake, even with the timeouts it has now.....lots of battery drain.
Greenify
I use it. Some don't. I use it on anything I know is going to run when it feels like and possibly steal my battery juice or cause any issues. One app I've always greenified is Maps. If it comes with the ROM, I convert it to a user app with titanium backup and then Greenify it. Games, any I ever have, greenified. I don't need or want to know my farm is ready to harvest. Lol. I'll find out when I open the game.
Use at your discretion. I wouldn't Greenify anything I use often, like dolphin or Tapatalk.....it'll just use more juice constantly loading them into memory. Social also won't sync if greenified. And be very careful greenifying system apps. That can cause you issues for sure.
Greenify tip from @Lethargy:
The paid version of Greenify let's you choose an option for Greenified apps called GSM push, when used with Xposed and the Greenify module activated. It allows you to still receive push notifications from hibernated apps. So you can Greenify those social apps that like to spam location services and burn data when your not even using them....and they will be awoken when you get a push notification. Will help with the drain from these apps better than doing nothing with them for sure! . A happy middle between always running and totally hibernated.
Screen Brightness
I think we all know a bright screen will cost you lots of juice. Out in the sun, there's not much we can do about it. I go back and forth sometimes. If I'm outside all day, I just usually put on auto brightness. But, nothing will help you save juice more than setting it manually. Someone not long ago mentioned an app called "Display Brightness ". Its free, and puts a very customizable slider anywhere around the edge of your screen that you want it. It gives you a quick access slider on your screen and its always there no matter what app you're in. You can change its size, location, color, transparency... Etc. Great little app.
Anyway.....if you keep the screen as dim as is comfortable for you, you'll get big gains in battery time.
I'm not convinced about LUX and its equivalents.... But many swear by them. Definitely something to look at too.
Tasker
I know little of tasker, I've never really got into it much. I did pay for it....and can't say when I last used it. Lol
You can do amazing things with it....to automate much of the things I've mentioned. A great tool for sure!!!
I've just never minded using toggles myself.
A few Quick Ones
- The more vibrating your phone does, the more juice it will drink.
- Games. We all know they kill the battery fast. Nuff said. . (Keep the screen dim)
- Social apps and other things that sync....the more you have, the more your battery time decreases. Especially picture heavy ones, like Facebook. It takes data transfer and CPU time to load all those images. Also, some wake your device a crazy amount of times to keep you up to date with your friends. (See Post Number 3 for help on controlling these and much more!!!!)
- Task killers. Guaranteed they waste more battery than they claim they'll save. Opening apps over and over is far worse on the battery than them sitting in memory idle. (In most cases. Greenify the exceptions). Android RAM is meant to be used. Too much free RAM is not helping, its wasted RAM.
- Juice Defender and other battery saver apps. Most will agree, some may not....but again, waste more juice than they save. For a moderate to heavy user, setup juice defender and look at your times held awake later. It can easily get over 2000 wakes per day.
Now...for a very light user.....very light....like you barely touch your phone all day....then Juice Defender may actually help you. But only the very light user.
Summary
Not all of these things are for everyone....but with each piece of advice you take, you'll save a little more juice.
Is my phone no longer a smartphone? Many have said that. Lol. Well guess what....in a few clicks, my phones intelligence can skyrocket. I just don't need things running 24/7 when I don't need them....or never use them.
So, here is a quick checklist of what I personally do after I install any ROM. And again, my battery life is as good as most I've seen. I'm just sharing this, not suggesting everyone do it. And also, all of our needs, usage and apps we use vary.....so there's no way to all have the exact same setup. Or the same battery times!!
After every install:
- I go into accounts/Google. Unchecked the things I don't want to sync. Usually I only have gmail, calendar and contacts checked.
- I turn location to device only, location history reporting is usually off for me by default, so I don't need to remember when I actually use it, then I turn it off completely.
- I go into Google settings app. In android device manager, they are both unchecked. Google Now is off. In ads, I check opt out of customizable ads. Location is already off.
- Sound settings. I uncheck all the options at bottom. No click sound, no vibrate on touch...etc. ( my keyboard makes no sound or vibration either). My phone only vibrates if I set it to vibrate. Otherwise it never vibrates on calls or notifications.
- I change a few cosmetics. (No battery impact here)
- I download titanium backup and restore my apps. Only user apps, and only data on the ones I don't want to setup again.
- change my wallpaper black. Not sure on an N5 if it helps battery life whatsoever.....its just my visual preference.
- Go into titanium backup and freeze, NOT uninstall...everything I never use.
- reboot.
- I Greenify all the apps I usually Greenify.
- Nova gets data restored, so not much to usually setup there. Its just how I had it.
- Restore the only widget I use. An agenda widget.
- Start LMT, Gsam, Display Brightness app and light flow...on some ROMs. The ones that have customizable notification LEDs by default, i don't use light flow. All of these get restored with data, so no setting up preferences required. Kii keyboard as well. And I disable the Nav keys.
Well, that's my setup routine. Again, to each their own. Just sharing my way. ��
That's all I have for now. Formatting (and spell and grammer check) will be tweaked to be easier to read in days to come. So no need to comment on my many mistakes. Lol. Plus additions I think are helpful from the community will be added. Along with credit, unless you don't want it.
Just whipped this up quick to help those that want it. I'll make it prettier soon. Promise!!
Good luck! ��
Managing syncs and services with "Disable Service"
Google Services drain? Syncs magically re-enabling themselves? Useless social app syncs?
Google apps and various social media apps use syncs. They'll put themselves under the "Accounts" section in Settings if they have any. At first the concept sounds fine, but the thing is, most of them are useless, abusively used and just waste your battery. Sync services cause wakelocks as they can't run while in deep sleep. Multiple syncs active causes dispersed wakeups, draining even more battery. Syncs also (for some unknown reason) sometimes re-enable themselves when you've unchecked them previously! Greenifying Google Play Services isn't a good idea since it'll constantly kill and automatically restart the services, which probably does more harm than good. It can also cause issues and break things, so what can you do about it?
There is a solution, use the app "Disable Service", found here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
True to it's name, it allows you to selectively disable services for apps, completely preventing them from being used, as if they didn't exist:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
As you can see above, I only have a Sync for Gmail, it's the only one I have a use for and the others are completely disabled, not just unticked (they sometimes re-tick themselves..).
[Note: "* Google Play Services" is a hidden sync that's for Google Account settings, I can see it because I'm using the Greenify Donation Package along with Xposed, the feature called "Reveal Hidden Sync". Its integrated into the core of Google Play Services so you can't disable it completely without causing issues (unticking is fine). It doesn't cause any wakes anyways since it's only active for a moment when you manually change account settings in Google Settings (i.e. device is awake anyways and it's not like you're always changing the settings).]
Now Google Play Services, various Google apps and social media apps have a lot of services. How do we tell which ones to disable?
They have "Sync" in the name and begin with what they're syncing.
For example:
Under Google Play Services, PeopleSyncService is the sync for "People" under your Google account.
Under Google+, AutoBackupSyncService is the Auto Backup sync for Photos.
Simply uncheck the boxes to disable a service:
If you're unsure which sync is which, the best way to tell is going to the sync page (In Settings > Account, see the first screenshot of this post), then opening Disable Service, disable a service and see which sync disappears. Re-enable it if it turns out to be a sync you rely on. If you're not 100% sure what a service is for, feel free to mention me in this thread, I'll provide an answer if I know what is is.
Social media apps also use syncs for purposes such as "find your friends", "contacts sync" and "photo album sync". Useful for some, but not everyone. They also use syncs to "refresh" automatically while you're not looking at them. There isn't really any need for that.. I mean, it'll refresh posts when you open up the app again and your notifications are pushed to your device anyways, right?
Waste of battery. You can disable all these too with no issues. Extremely helpful if you have a bunch of social media apps which nag you for syncs.
Also keep in mind that Google apps put all their syncs under the Google account and you'll have to go their respective apps to disable them (usually with "Adapter" in its name, but not always). For example, the Google+ and Google Chrome syncs get merged under your Google account.
If you also have the Greenify Donation Package and Xposed Framework, you can enable "Wakeup Timer Coalescing". This feature causes your syncs to all sync at the same time, rather than leaving them to sync whenever they want. It'll save a bit of battery because it'll only need to wake once rather than multiple times. Useful if you still rely on a few actually useful syncs such as Gmail.
The Disable Service app is also useful for disabling useless services which other apps tend to activate even if they're not being used. One example is YouTube. It wakes up screen cast services even if they're not being used, which subsequently wakes up Google Play Services. If you never use screen casting, you can disable it so it won't wake Play Services pointlessly whenever you open YouTube. Examples of some other services you can disable if you don't use them are Wearable Services, Play Games, Analytics. Don't disable any services with "Gcm", "gtalk" or "push" in them or you risk missing notifications from apps which use GCM cloud to push notifications to your device.
If you never use location you can also disable everything with "geo" or "location" in it, so it'll be completely disabled. No more location wakelocks. Ever.
Do keep in mind that disabling some could render an app useless if it legitimately needs to use it.
Titanium Backup won't work on Disable Service as it doesn't actually store any data itself and disables it in the system ("pm disable"). The "cut off wakeup path" feature of Greenify Donation Package + Xposed does the same thing, but (as far as I know) temporarily as it stores it in Greenify's data, and you can only disable them once they come up, not selectively.
Luckily, Disable Service has a hidden backup/restore function which you'll probably miss. Its in Overflow Menu > About. Helpful when flashing new ROMs/clean flashing. Puts DS_backup.txt on your Internal Storage.
For a general idea of what most of us have disabled without issues, I've dumped screenshots of what I personally have disabled. Please note that not everyone's would be the same, and some people may still need specific services to be enabled. Here: http://imgur.com/a/YyPtT
Blocking the wakelock permission on Play Services isn't a bad idea either, see my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54516634&postcount=332
If you're a user of location but you don't want the services to always be active when you don't need them (e.g. you only need them for driving/maps), you can use Tasker to enable and disable them. Create a new task, add action: Script > Run Shell. The command is "pm disable package.name/package.name.service".
e.g. for disabling AnalyticsService:
Code:
pm disable com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.analytics.service.AnalyticsService
Make sure to check "Use Root". To enable a service you use pm enable instead of pm disable, of course. Try not to toggle them too much (e.g. enable/disable if Google Maps is open or not), as it'll probably cause a lot of lag. Manual toggles are probably best.
Enjoy your device without the annoyance of Play Services wakelocks/syncs:
(13% left, might've made it to 2 days with 7 hours SOT but I was tired so put it on the charger)
For those who want to disable OTA services (and it's possible wakelocks) PROPERLY:
Elluel said:
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gms/.update.SystemUpdateService
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gms/.update.SystemUpdateService$ActiveReceiver
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gms/.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gms/.update.SystemUpdateService$SecretCodeReceiver
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gsf/.update.SystemUpdateActivity
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gsf/.update.SystemUpdatePanoActivity
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gsf/.update.SystemUpdateService
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gsf/.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gsf/.update.SystemUpdateService$SecretCodeReceiver
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(you can also just "su" then "pm disable com.whatever" via a Terminal app)
How to analyze and improve your idle battery drain
If you need help to analyze your battery life, please use BetterBatteryStats to report logs.
1. Charge your phone to 100% then unplug it.
2. Leave your phone idle for at least 7 hours (do not touch the screen)
3. Open BBS and make sure that the start reference is "Unplugged" and the stop reference is "Current" or "Screen on"
4. Hit the Share button, select "Text Dumpfile" and save. The file is stored in the root of your sdcard.
5. Attach it in this thread
Note: Make sure that "Enable while charging" is NOT checked in BBS > Settings > Advanced
Any other information and screenshots about your usage pattern might help.
Here are a few screenshots from last night
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Gsam has a lot of easy to follow info available, if you have root companion as well, and know where to look. Many battery issues will show their faces in these screens somewhere. Many, not all.
Please go from 100% to 10 or 15 percent battery left before taking screen shots.....for an accurate idea what's going on.
Here are samples of the important Screenshots from Gsam. Include these in your post and other members will quickly get an idea of what's happening. Hopefully. (not all issues are easy to find)
These are from Gsam with Gsam Root Companion also installed. Without Root Companion, or if you are not rooted....you won't have all these available. So do what you can.
Main Screen
App Sucker Screen
Number of Times Waking Device (in App Sucker drop down)
Time Held Awake (in App Sucker drop down)
Kernel Wakelocks (in App Sucker drop down)
Also, if you have a weak signal a lot...maybe include Phone Radio screen
If your using Auto Brightness especially, the Screen screen can say a lot
And from the systems settings menu, under battery. Click on the graph for a more detailed graph....(tho really not necessary if you posted the first 5 above....and Radio screen if you think your signal is weak)
That's about it, from Gsam anyway.
I know we have a battery thread with 3000 posts....but its cluttered now, as all threads get eventually. Its in General, not Q&A, where troubleshooting is usually found. And its title is Nexus 5 battery results....designed to share times, more so than fix issues. It just became the go to issue place.
Time for a more new member friendly thread that stands out.
Reserved. For moi'
Good idea for the thread. It might also be helpful if you detailed your usage. Of course, people's usage should be what works for them and even if someone emulated your usage they will most likely get slightly different results. However, having said that I think a lot of people will ask for it anyway. I am curious myself as well of course =]
PsychDrummer said:
Good idea for the thread. It might also be helpful if you detailed your usage. Of course, people's usage should be what works for them and even if someone emulated your usage they will most likely get slightly different results. However, having said that I think a lot of people will ask for it anyway. I am curious myself as well of course =]
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I'll be putting my setup, and general tips in post 2 when I get some time.
My setup is simple really, turn all the frills off. Toggle them when needed. Screen dimmer, and manually adjusted. Greenify anything that can hurt battery life. I don't usually game... I have an N7 for that. I mostly use the browser, Tapatalk...and text. Yes, boring, I know. Lol
And try not to be running data in poor signal coverage areas. That's number one! Use WiFi, or turn off data and use it only when needed. Texts and calls still work with data off.
My setup definitely isn't for everyone....but decent battery life should still be obtainable with a more robust setup. Its all priority. Give up some things, gain more time. Keep some things, lose some time. And definitely squash any abnormal issues. I've ran just about every ROM out there, and always got similar battery life...setup the same on all of them of course.
And I hope others will see what I put and add to it anything I missed.
As I said, this isn't MY thread to oversee.....its just hopefully going to be a more efficient place for help. Assuming the appropriate screenshots accompany the posts. ?
It will be simplistic, nothing fancy. I'm not much into kernel tweaks and what not, not for the small amount of battery life they can add.
The purpose of the thread is for people to post issues, and for people to help solve them.
My tips won't be new to most, just gathered in an easy to find location....especially to help newer folks.
Oh....and the answer to the majority of battery issues......Location Services. Lol
Not location services alone perhaps....but it and the apps using it combined.
Thank Google. They just can't seem to get location services right.
Want significantly better better battery life immediately? Turn it off. Yes, off. Toggle it when needed (2 screen touches usually....a swipe and a click). And toggle it off when done.
Best tip there is. Yes, a sacrifice to some....but usually, great results.
KJ said:
Oh....and the answer to the majority of battery issues......Location Services. Lol
Not location services alone perhaps....but it and the apps using it combined.
Thank Google. They just can't seem to get location services right.
Want significantly better better battery life immediately? Turn it off. Yes, off. Toggle it when needed (2 screen touches usually....a swipe and a click). And toggle it off when done.
Best tip there is. Yes, a sacrifice to some....but usually, great results.
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So freaking true. I've set up my rom's tile to toggle between High Accuracy and Off. When I need maps or location, I hit the toggle and once I'm done, hit it again :cyclops:
Looking good
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Just going to put this out there - if you put your brightness on the lowest settings and your device isn't awake too much while the screen is off (i.e. wake locks managed, Greenify/ROM's wake lock blocker), average screen on time should be 4-6 hours EASILY. Everything else is has minimal impact (apart from listening to music with the screen off, which would be keeping your device awake, nothing you can do about that.).
There is NO magic setup that will give you phenomenal battery life - short of a battery case but that doesn't count.
This is 4 and a half hours of continuous use, almost always SoT (4 hours 15 mins SoT). Just browsing forums on Tapatalk while listening to music. Still have a quarter left of my battery:
Sent from my Nexus 5
Lethargy said:
Just going to put this out there - if you put your brightness on the lowest settings and your device isn't awake too much while the screen is off (i.e. wake locks managed, Greenify/ROM's wake lock blocker), average screen on time should be 4-6 hours EASILY. Everything else is has minimal impact (apart from listening to music with the screen off, which would be keeping your device awake, nothing you can do about that.).
There is NO magic setup that will give you phenomenal battery life - short of a battery case but that doesn't count.
This is 4 and a half hours of continuous use, almost always SoT (4 hours 15 mins SoT). Just browsing forums on Tapatalk while listening to music. Still have a quarter left of my battery:
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Agreed. ?
No, there's no "magic" setup, but 3 hours average to 6 hours average screen time is a huge difference. And setup, usage and signal strength all play a role. The more features off....the longer you'll go. Yes, screen is huge....but things like location services (along with a bunch of social apps) gnow, android device manager...and certain apps can also make a huge difference.
KJ said:
Agreed. ?
No, there's no "magic" setup, but 3 hours average to 6 hours average screen time is a huge difference. And setup, usage and signal strength all play a role. The more features off....the longer you'll go. Yes, screen is huge....but things like location services (along with a bunch of social apps) gnow, android device manager...and certain apps can also make a huge difference.
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Agree 100%, but by "setup" I meant ROM, kernel, etc. I hate it when people claim that a certain kernel or ROM would give you better battery life - we know otherwise. To some extent maybe, but its only a minor impact compared to other factors that may influence your battery life.
But yes, setup in the form of apps and whatnot could impact battery life but really that's just down to your own usage and management. I have a bunch of social apps on my device but I have them managed properly with Greenify and whatnot. My battery life is fine.
In the end the only real excuse is signal strength. But I guess that's what this thread is for - to help people with the other factors.
And yeah, always nuke location. Its useless and just wants your battery.
Sent from my Nexus 5
The guys saying "my battery sucks", yet have every single feature on, auto brightness, 6 different social apps...etc...etc....are the ones who don't know these things. And they have 3 hours SoT. Well....that's about right. Lol.
So hopefully with tips on what to cut out....they can pick and choose what the can live without. And times will increase with each cut or change.
KJ said:
The guys saying "my battery sucks", yet have every single feature on, auto brightness, 6 different social apps...etc...etc....are the ones who don't know these things. And they have 3 hours SoT. Well....that's about right. Lol.
So hopefully with tips on what to cut out....they can pick and choose what the can live without. And times will increase with each cut or change.
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You should add it to the OP along with mentioning that a ROM or kernel will hardly make your battery life any better.
And I just hit 5 hours SoT with 15% battery left. I'm doing this just to see how much SoT I would get since I don't drain my battery down very often - and my device is asleep 99.99% of the time the screen is off (with the exception of music lol) - its just good management.
Also, I do have autobrightness enabled - but since I'm on a custom ROM I've changed the brightness levels really, really low, stock values are horrible i.e. battery drainer.
Sent from my Nexus 5
Lethargy said:
You should add it to the OP along with mentioning that a ROM or kernel will hardly make your battery life any better.
And I just hit 5 hours SoT with 15% battery left. I'm doing this just to see how much SoT I would get since I don't drain my battery down very often - and my device is asleep 99.99% of the time the screen is off (with the exception of music lol) - its just good management.
Also, I do have autobrightness enabled - but since I'm on a custom ROM I've changed the brightness levels really, really low, stock values are horrible i.e. battery drainer.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Awesome!!
Post 2 will have all the tips I can think of, no matter how harsh...Lol. As well as tips others contribute. Like yours!
Probably won't get to it til the weekend.
This is not a good battery cycle.
unsivil_audio said:
This is not a good battery cycle.
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Seems pretty good to me??
Its on the borderline of acceptable to me. Location set to device, no GN. I can't tell if FB is a killer or not. I mean my wakelocks are under control (40 mins of that is listening to music). My battery life really seems to vary by the day with virtually no setup changes. I'm going back to location off today. We'll see if it helps.
v----This on the other hand was awesome...
So currently I'm using my new xperia z5.. It's one week already since i have this phone. I noticed that my phone drain battery real quick.. It's quite make me sad. But the good thing is when i wanted to charge it.. It charge so fast.. Like maybe 30 minutes for 40% increase.. And btw
... I want u guys to help me how i can fix my problem cause i love using my phone as a gaming device and browsing and other stuff, it is like my 24 hours non stop without using it .. I knew i was a beginner in android thing.. Please guys help me..
Am i supposed to factory reset it or anything i could do?? And Btw I'm using the UCH20 ( i read in the sony that itsn't quick charging) but I'm happy with the charging though..
It is fast.. But also fast to drain
Please guys help me D':
Go to Settings -> Power management -> Battery usage to see what is using your battery the most. If you want more help, I would advise you to take a screenshot of that page and post it here. With me, it's normally Chrome or the Screen.
Could you please post your screen on time? You can tap on screen to see what it is.
He said 30 minutes CHARGING for 40% increase...
Anyway, I can't even get my Quick Charger to perform that well so maybe OP should let the battery discharge fully and then charge fully to maybe calibrate the battery.
ricodredd said:
He said 30 minutes CHARGING for 40% increase...
Anyway, I can't even get my Quick Charger to perform that well so maybe OP should let the battery discharge fully and then charge fully to maybe calibrate the battery.
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Oops. Didn't read correctly. Also are you using the charger that came out of the box? I don't think that is quick charge.
Maybe try using a normal charger instead of a quick charger? I don't use quick charge and normally get 4-5 hours SOT.
UCH20 is a "normal" charger. UCH10 is the Sony Quick Charge one but doesn't come with every Z5.
Lambo16 said:
Go to Settings -> Power management -> Battery usage to see what is using your battery the most. If you want more help, I would advise you to take a screenshot of that page and post it here. With me, it's normally Chrome or the Screen.
Could you please post your screen on time? You can tap on screen to see what it is.
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Well guys i tried to install greenify yesterday.. And i started to hibernate all apps that i might should force stop it.. and then when i just get up this morning and play my phone it came up wit something like this
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
This is the link if u can't see the pic http://imgur.com/lTq6b9m
Lambo16 said:
Oops. Didn't read correctly. Also are you using the charger that came out of the box? I don't think that is quick charge.
Maybe try using a normal charger instead of a quick charger? I don't use quick charge and normally get 4-5 hours SOT.
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Yeah i don't use the quick charger one
My Z5 came with the quick charger. Made in Taiwan. Perhaps it would be the causes of the battery drain?
BR4DOKYBrazil said:
My Z5 came with the quick charger. Made in Taiwan. Perhaps it would be the causes of the battery drain?
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I think so.. But it maybe not the main reason why it drained so fast.. it is like when i just using my phone only for 2 minutes it also drain for 2%. What a mess! i don't expected Sony to be like this tbh
Khelda said:
I think so.. But it maybe not the main reason why it drained so fast.. it is like when i just using my phone only for 2 minutes it also drain for 2%. What a mess! i don't expected Sony to be like this tbh
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Have you noticed if your battery down 2% at one time?
BR4DOKYBrazil said:
Have you noticed if your battery down 2% at one time?
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Yes i noticed that.. The worst thing is when i just left my phone at screen off.. The battery just decreasing like 3% unused which is why i just so pissed off. I hope sony could fix this thing when comes to marshmallow update. i heard that marshmallow could handle this stuff properly
What about auto sync,and location settings too. Those have an impact on battery drain also. I leave auto sync off,and havw location on battery save mode. It helps. I came from a z3 which had awesome battery life, but I totally agree here about the z5's battery. Hope marshmallow helps.
Will anybody perform a reset after the new marshmallow?
Is it needed?
Hanger4life said:
What about auto sync,and location settings too. Those have an impact on battery drain also. I leave auto sync off,and havw location on battery save mode. It helps. I came from a z3 which had awesome battery life, but I totally agree here about the z5's battery. Hope marshmallow helps.
Will anybody perform a reset after the new marshmallow?
Is it needed?
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Well.. I want to perform a hard reset but it depends on how my phone works.. If it still good i'll not hard reset it.. If it still not good i'll perform hard reset perhaps.. Btw thanks for ur advice i'll try it later..
Auto sync setting
Khelda said:
Well.. I want to perform a hard reset but it depends on how my phone works.. If it still good i'll not hard reset it.. If it still not good i'll perform hard reset perhaps.. Btw thanks for ur advice i'll try it later..
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Your welcome. Ok, go into settings, accounts,and then top right press the 3 dot menu and itshould be there,if it's on it should be checked,just Un check it.
I use an app for toggles called power toggles,and in this app there is a manual sync all button. So when I want to sync(primarily to sync Gmail) I can just press it,and my mail shows up. I could also just go to Gmail and slide screen down to sync.
Hope this helps.
How many hours SOT are you guys getting?
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Your welcome. Ok, go into settings, accounts,and then top right press the 3 dot menu and itshould be there,if it's on it should be checked,just Un check it.
I use an app for toggles called power toggles,and in this app there is a manual sync all button. So when I want to sync(primarily to sync Gmail) I can just press it,and my mail shows up. I could also just go to Gmail and slide screen down to sync.
Hope this helps.
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Mine was checked! Deactivated automatic synchronization! Thank you! Also deactivated google location history too!
I'm always running in stamina mode too. I also use extended standby and extended usage both checked. I have run the phone with out stamina and it doesn't perform and better, but the battery drains 2 times faster when not in stamina mode.
Hanger4life said:
I'm always running in stamina mode too. I also use extended standby and extended usage both checked. I have run the phone with out stamina and it doesn't perform and better, but the battery drains 2 times faster when not in stamina mode.
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That's so true.. It happens to me either. Now i think that Sony phone is quite disappointing for now.. and at the end i hope that they fix this asap next year :3
Make sure wifi scanning even when wifi is off is turned off and put location settings on battery saving (mobile network and wifi only).
Also switch to 2g when not using internet. Switch to 2G voice and text only.
Then you can add a mobile data and 4g toggle on the quick setting toggles and when you want internet press 4g then mobile data, then when finished press mobile data toggle and then turn 4g off and it will go back to 2g.
You should also check in google account that anything you don't need syncing like google music, books, games etc is not syncing.
Fast chargers work fine and won't impact battery life short term. I get 5hours SOT using Galaxy S6 fast charger.
Jonathan-H said:
Make sure wifi scanning even when wifi is off is turned off and put location settings on battery saving (mobile network and wifi only).
Also switch to 2g when not using internet. Switch to 2G voice and text only.
Then you can add a mobile data and 4g toggle on the quick setting toggles and when you want internet press 4g then mobile data, then when finished press mobile data toggle and then turn 4g off and it will go back to 2g.
You should also check in google account that anything you don't need syncing like google music, books, games etc is not syncing.
Fast chargers work fine and won't impact battery life short term. I get 5hours SOT using Galaxy S6 fast charger.
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Thanks jonathan.. Btw i already turn off the wifi scanning and turn off google sync.i'll try the toogle one after this
i really appreciate ur help. thanks again
Want to increase your battery life? Install Greenify and activate "Aggressive Doze"
I have the Verizon S7E so there isn't much we can do AT ALL to increase battery life because we will likely be stuck without root forever.
That being said, I've been looking around and a lot of people have been saying that the S7 line isn't "dozing". I remembered that the Greenify app has something called "Aggressive Doze (experimental)" in its settings.
So I tried to force the Doze with Greenify. It worked.
1. Download Greenify
2. Open Greenify and click the 3 dots at the top right of the app.
3. Click Settings
4. The 2nd option should be "Aggressive Doze (experimental)" and disabled
5. Click on it and then enable it
(Optional) - I enabled the notification at the bottom so it tells me when and how long each time that it dozes for. This is nice because it gives me the sense that it's ACTUALLY working because otherwise I would have no idea. You can turn it off later too.
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I have noticed quite a bit of improved battery life on my Verizon S7 Edge. I only lost 2% battery over my 8 hour sleep last night.
I don't have a stats page at the moment. Let me charge it to full and post in 2-3 days because that's how good it is right now.
I've uninstalled greenify 'cause some devices on MM had problems with it. After reading this I'm thinking to install it again and do it your way.
Did you have any deepsleep issues or redraws on touchwiz while on the aggressive mod ??
Thanks.
fethi2 said:
I've uninstalled greenify 'cause some devices on MM had problems with it. After reading this I'm thinking to install it again and do it your way.
Did you have any deepsleep issues or redraws on touchwiz while on the aggressive mod ??
Thanks.
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I've had zero issues so far. If you can handle the occasional delayed notification (because this is Doze) from Facebook/Twitter/etc then you'll be fine.
Greenify even let's you Whitelist apps that you don't want dozing in case you need instant notifications for the specified app.
I thought greenify requires root?
I was getting delayed alarms from Google's clock app. Had to uninstall Greenify.
Mrinal Roy said:
I thought greenify requires root?
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No, not entirely. The paid app lets you greenify some system apps without root. I currently don't use it with Marshmallow.
entropism said:
I was getting delayed alarms from Google's clock app. Had to uninstall Greenify.
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Whitelist it. And any other app that might experience delays. It does say "experimental" after all.
Might want to remove it from the hibernate list too if it's giving you issues.
I have the Google clock app and both of my alarms were working fine this morning so others mileage may vary.
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Whitelist it. And any other app that might experience delays. It does say "experimental" after all.
Might want to remove it from the hibernate list too if it's giving you issues.
I have the Google clock app and both of my alarms were working fine this morning so others mileage may vary.
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It was whitelisted by default. Yeah, it was the oddest thing... My alarm would go off like 8 minutes late, and the screen would show "-8:34 Remaining"
Yeah, Gmail is whitelisted. Took 45 minutes to get a notification that the email came in.
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It was whitelisted by default. Yeah, it was the oddest thing... My alarm would go off like 8 minutes late, and the screen would show "-8:34 Remaining"
Yeah, Gmail is whitelisted. Took 45 minutes to get a notification that the email came in.
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That's a bummer. I guess they should mention YMMV in the app too lol.
So far working great for me, no issues. Hopefully that will keep up.
Works fine for me too. No delayed alarms or texts.
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Wondering
I had Greenify with Aggressive Doze on my Verizon Note 5. It seemed to help quite a bit. For me to enable it on the Note 5 though, I had to push an ADB command via USB to set it up...Is that not the case with the S7 Edge?
https://greenify.uservoice.com/know...o-grant-permissions-required-by-some-features
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Are you also hibernating apps, or only using aggressive doze?
geoff5093 said:
Are you also hibernating apps, or only using aggressive doze?
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Just setting it up at this point...So presently I am not hibernating any apps
I dont use greenify or anything for that matter. I get from 10-12 SOT. Normal use. Snapdragon version. I believe since we cant root our device, knowing how to the debloat with disable package pro will give u battery battery life than messing with doze.
eduardmc said:
I dont use greenify or anything for that matter. I get from 10-12 SOT. Normal use. Snapdragon version. I believe since we cant root our device, knowing how to the debloat with disable package pro will give u battery battery life than messing with doze.
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I did the debloat, it helped a bit. Aggressive doze helped more.
Also I don't believe you one bit with anything over 10 hours SOT. Unless of course you put on a 10 hour movie with super low brightness and left the phone sitting.
It was causing my music to stop playing in the background so I turned it off
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Experimenting with Greenify's aggressive doze setting. So far I had to tweak a couple settings since it was blocking my calendar schedule. I even had S planner white listed as well. What I did to correct it was actually white list Greenify and that made it work. Gonna play with it a few days and see how it goes.
aggressive doze works well for me
hibernation makes my phone unstable in some cases, so I left aggressive doze only, phone works fast and battery life is noticeable better.
how do I know whether the doze mode is working or not ?
what is the app that I can use to monitor doze mode ?
Aggressive doze did NOT work well for me... At first it changed my estimated battery usage time left (with full battery) down to 9 hours, then things stopped working. I whitelisted Greenify, and I had other apps whitelisted before using it, so I didn't have to change them, and they all worked fine prior to aggressive doze. Battery life ended up being fine for the most part, but GPS would never find me at all (whitelisted location, no change), my-places stopped working (whitelisted it, no change), the phone was very unresponsive, even after unlocking, just didn't go well lol... Uninstalled it this morning, my GPS still either won't lock, or thinks I'm somewhere a few blocks away, turned on high accuracy which fixed that. I'm constantly seeing finding location, and location found on my notifications. Maaannn, I was hoping for just a little better battery life, and instead turned into a huge pain! Beware guys and gals!
I am running OOS 10.3.8 (rooted) on my OP 7Pro. I run the following command to force a certain app into the "ACTIVE" App Standby Bucket ...
am set-standby-bucket package.name active
After doing this, how long will the app remain in that "ACTIVE" bucket under this version of OOS? Will it live there forever because of the fact that I put it there with the above command? Or will the OS eventually take over and perhaps move it to a different bucket? All the docs I could find about this topic state that each OS has its own way of managing the placement of apps into these buckets. I'm wondering whether anyone knows specifically how OOS 10.3.8 does this.
I want that particular app to always live in the "ACTIVE" bucket, and so if the OS eventually moves it, I will have to periodically put it back into "ACTIVE", which I can easily do via Tasker.
Thank you in advance for any thoughts about this.
On Samsung's if power management is disabled all app buckets stay in the active state.
If you do not enable power management the bucket state will not alter.
Note 10+/Android 9 or 10
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On Samsung's if power management is disabled all app buckets stay in the active state.
If you do not enable power management the bucket state will not alter.
Note 10+/Android 9 or 10
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Thank you very much. Does anyone know how this functions specifically in Oxygen OS on an OP 7Pro? There is nothing in the settings for that OS called "Power Management".
(This XDA forum is for "OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers".)
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Thank you very much. Does anyone know how this functions specifically in Oxygen OS on an OP 7Pro? There is nothing in the settings for that OS called "Power Management".
(This XDA forum is for "OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers".)
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Interesting.
Samsung customizes their UI heavily. Not sure how other manufacturers handle this. Lol, using power management in my case on Samsung's leads to erratic behavior and heavier power consumption even after days
If all buckets show as active and if trying to reset their bucket state will not take (change state, close Developer options then reopen to see if it took), then nothing more should need to be done. The apps apps are already running in their active bucket state which is the default setting.
That doesn't mean they're continously running full bore; Android will generally manage them effectively and efficiently in this state from what I've observed. I deal with power hogs on a case by case basis without power management.
Turning off battery background use in individual apps does not alter the bucket state, at least on my devices.
Play with it... see how it behaves.
blackhawk said:
Interesting.
Samsung customizes their UI heavily. Not sure how other manufacturers handle this. Lol, using power management in my case on Samsung's leads to erratic behavior and heavier power consumption even after days
If all buckets show as active and if trying to reset their bucket state will not take (change state, close Developer options then reopen to see if it took), then nothing more should need to be done. The apps apps are already running in their active bucket state which is the default setting.
That doesn't mean they're continously running full bore; Android will generally manage them effectively and efficiently in this state from what I've observed. I deal with power hogs on a case by case basis without power management.
Turning off battery background use in individual apps does not alter the bucket state, at least on my devices.
Play with it... see how it behaves.
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Thank you. In my case, OOS doesn't put all apps into the "ACTIVE" bucket. It has some sort of algorithm for deciding between the various states, and different apps appear in different buckets.
That's what the docs about Android's App Standby Buckets say is supposed to happen, and these docs also state that each OS can manage the decisions differently about which apps to put into which buckets, and when to do so.
These docs also state that an app in the "ACTIVE" bucket is supposed to behave as if it's in the foreground, which means that it has normal network priority. Samsung might override this behavior of "ACTIVE" apps, but if so, it would be a deviation from the specs.
I am already playing around with this on my device. I'm just not sure whether an app will stay "ACTIVE" forever after I do the following ...
Code:
am set-standby-bucket package.name active
... or whether at some point after I issue that command, the OS will take over. Eventually I'll figure it out. I'm just asking here in this OnePlus forum in case anyone who is familiar with the inner workings of OnePlus devices and OOS already knows the answer.
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Thank you. In my case, OOS doesn't put all apps into the "ACTIVE" bucket. It has some sort of algorithm for deciding between the various states, and different apps appear in different buckets.
That's what the docs about Android's App Standby Buckets say is supposed to happen, and these docs also state that each OS can manage the decisions differently about which apps to put into which buckets, and when to do so.
These docs also state that an app in the "ACTIVE" bucket is supposed to behave as if it's in the foreground, which means that it has normal network priority. Samsung might override this behavior of "ACTIVE" apps, but if so, it would be a deviation from the specs.
I am already playing around with this on my device. I'm just not sure whether an app will stay "ACTIVE" forever after I do the following ...
Code:
am set-standby-bucket package.name active
... or whether at some point after I issue that command, the OS will take over. Eventually I'll figure it out. I'm just asking here in this OnePlus forum in case anyone who is familiar with the inner workings of OnePlus devices and OOS already knows the answer.
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I read the whole Google bucket explanation. In the end I went with what works best real world.
Lol, I played with this a lot a while back.
Google will keep improving something until they screw it up.
After looking around on the web I think you may have similar power management apps on that device ie battery optimization. There could be more on drop down menus as well.
I wouldn't alter the bucket state with abd. If it's already set as active it's probably the optimized already. I use standby apps just to double check that power management isn't active as I've seen first hand the mess it can cause.
blackhawk said:
I read the whole Google bucket explanation. In the end I went with what works best real world.
Lol, I played with this a lot a while back.
Google will keep improving something until they screw it up.
After looking around on the web I think you may have similar power management apps on that device ie battery optimization. There could be more on drop down menus as well.
I wouldn't alter the bucket state with abd. If it's already set as active it's probably the optimized already. I use standby apps just to double check that power management isn't active as I've seen first hand the mess it can cause.
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I understand, but mine is a special case.
The OnePlus devices and their OOS operating system are particularly bad concerning push-notifications. They over-do the Doze-related, battery-saving procedures so much that many push-notifications don't even get delivered to apps at all until the app is opened up in the foreground, which could be many minutes or even hours after the notification was originally sent.
Turning battery optimzation off for those apps has no effect. Nor do any of the many different Doze profiles that I have tried. And "whitelisting" the apps is simply what happens when battery optimization is turned off, and it therefore has no effect.
I have to put those apps into the "ACTIVE" bucket, and only then do they reliably receive those otherwise highly delayed push-notifications at the time that they are sent.
I have spent a lot of time trying to correct this problem, and I only came up with two solutions: (1) Use Tasker to periodically open those apps in the foreground for a few seconds, so they can repeatedly get caught up with any pending, undelivered push-notifications; or (2) put the apps in question into the "ACTIVE" bucket.
Obviously, the second alternative is less intrusive to my everyday use of my device.
I have not experienced any negative consequences of putting those apps into the "ACTIVE" bucket.