I'm on unlocked U1 firmware AVC8 Snapdragon and I've had Game Optimizing Service manually disabled for a while now using Alliance Shield X.
COD Mobile has been running great since there's no throttling and I never get any frame drops, which was not the case when GOS was enabled, even with the alternative performance management on or off, or any type of configuration from Game Booster Plus, so I got rid of it all.
However, with the newest COD update, it feels like my phone is getting dangerously hot when only playing for about 10 minutes.
Are there any tricks or tips to reduce this? I don't want to damage my battery or phone from overheating.
I currently use Thermal Guardian but I don't notice a difference with the temperature, still gets super hot no matter what.
What settings are you guys using to run highly demanding games?
Do you have better luck with GOS enabled or disabled?
I will say the game was running just as smooth and temperatures were actually normal when I was on AVA6 before the March update, with GOS disabled.
I'm considering flashing back to AVA6 so my phone doesn't turn into Portgas D. Ace.
Any thoughts would be great, thanks.
Running like that is extremely hard on the battery, it could significantly decrease it's lifespan. The possibility of thermal damage to the mobo is also increased. Remember flash memory doesn't like high temperatures as far as memory retention goes.
Find the apps responsible and tone them down. It likely could be junk running in the background.
Clear system cache.
Disable global power management.
Disable cloud junk... yeah Google backup and Google Firebase too.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services.
Rule #1 - if the firmware is running fast, stable (and cool)... let it be. Updates can and do break things. Once I have a phone optimized I don't update it. Security is not an issue, but chasing your own tail after an update/upgrade is an issue and it can be quit time consuming.
blackhawk said:
Running like that is extremely hard on the battery, it could significantly decrease it's lifespan. The possibility of thermal damage to the mobo is also increased. Remember flash memory doesn't like high temperatures as far as memory retention goes.
Find the apps responsible and tone them down. It likely could be junk running in the background.
Clear system cache.
Disable global power management.
Disable cloud junk... yeah Google backup and Google Firebase too.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services.
Rule #1 - if the firmware is running fast, stable (and cool)... let it be. Updates can and do break things. Once I have a phone optimized I don't update it. Security is not an issue, but chasing your own tail after an update/upgrade is an issue and it can be quit time consuming.
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Yeah that's what I'm worried about, it definitely doesn't feel safe to continue playing when it gets that hot. I track my apps battery drainage pretty good with Accubattery and everything is normal, I get great battery life no complaint there, it's just the overheat. I set background process limit to 0 from developer setting before I start playing.
How do I disable global power management?
I disable useless stuff and don't let much run in the background so I doubt it's anything like that. I also clear cache partition regularly.
My RAM Plus is set to 1GB and my Processing speed is set Optimized for less heat. I'm not sure what other settings I could tinker with to reduce heat.
If it's running hot it's using battery, lots of it.
I'm running on Pie so no idea about Ram plus, but with 12gb of ram I don't even think about it other than curiosity. Try disabling it.
The power management is found in Device Care.
Lol, it never worked right, why should it now?
Rather handle power hogs on a case by case basis. Trial and error. Don't go too nuts disabling apks. Many apks just sit there and do nothing unless needed. Dozen of small Samsung system apps, be careful with them; dependencies. That may be part of what's going on.
To verify power management's status...
Developer options>standby apps If all buckets are active then global power management is not running. If you can reset the bucket state it's enable. It will cause erratic behaviors. Power management and the bucket crap is a Google brain child. Maybe it's junk, maybe Samsung didn't integrat it right, whatever... it's trouble. Androids will run fine without it.
Only fast charging should be toggle on if you want it. Changing limit background usage in individual app doesn't effect the bucket state and is ok to do if needed.
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Running like that is extremely hard on the battery, it could significantly decrease it's lifespan. The possibility of thermal damage to the mobo is also increased. Remember flash memory doesn't like high temperatures as far as memory retention goes.
Find the apps responsible and tone them down. It likely could be junk running in the background.
Clear system cache.
Disable global power management.
Disable cloud junk... yeah Google backup and Google Firebase too.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services.
Rule #1 - if the firmware is running fast, stable (and cool)... let it be. Updates can and do break things. Once I have a phone optimized I don't update it. Security is not an issue, but chasing your own tail after an update/upgrade is an issue and it can be quit time consuming.
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how do one disable google firebase?
thanks
blackhawk said:
If it's running hot it's using battery, lots of it.
I'm running on Pie so no idea about Ram plus, but with 12gb of ram I don't even think about it other than curiosity. Try disabling it.
The power management is found in Device Care.
Lol, it never worked right, why should it now?
Rather handle power hogs on a case by case basis. Trial and error. Don't go too nuts disabling apks. Many apks just sit there and do nothing unless needed. Dozen of small Samsung system apps, be careful with them; dependencies. That may be part of what's going on.
To verify power management's status...
Developer options>standby apps If all buckets are active then global power management is not running. If you can reset the bucket state it's enable. It will cause erratic behaviors. Power management and the bucket crap is a Google brain child. Maybe it's junk, maybe Samsung didn't integrat it right, whatever... it's trouble. Androids will run fine without it.
Only fast charging should be toggle on if you want it. Changing limit background usage in individual app doesn't effect the bucket state and is ok to do if needed.
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This is really helpful, thank you.
xjust said:
how do one disable google firebase?
thanks
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In the Google account settings in Android Settings, near or at the bottom. Go through all the Google settings.
Also disable carrier, Samsung, Google and 3rd party app feedfack.
those are already disabled for me, yet firebase still kicks in.
i see it clearly in google play services beta dev options , time and info of what is shared. scary stuff
i thought there is some setting inside myaccount on google that needs attention
btw. whatsapp and telegram works without playservices?
xjust said:
those are already disabled for me, yet firebase still kicks in.
i see it clearly in google play services beta dev options , time and info of what is shared. scary stuff
i thought there is some setting inside myaccount on google that needs attention
btw. whatsapp and telegram works without playservices?
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Not sure why Firebase is running if disabled. Gookill is a mess... may have something to do with another running Google app like Backup Transport which I also disable.
Get the social media apps off the device. Security risks and really nothing but trouble.
If the site isn't fully functional through the browser only, ditch it.
To get that device to tone down is going to take some effort... and maybe some sacrifices.
it might have something to do with the fact that i logged other android devices on this account or buggy firmware
took out backup transport as well
galaxy s22 is quite a mess so far no deep sleep on wifi, 2-3%/h gms
got better standby on 5 years phones with exactly the same apps/account , without even trying
or maybe nearby device wifi/bt scanning, findmyphone and firebase settings might reset on clearing data/cache for google play services ?
xjust said:
it might have something to do with the fact that i logged other android devices on this account or buggy firmware
took out backup transport as well
galaxy s22 is quite a mess so far no deep sleep on wifi, 2-3%/h gms
got better standby on 5 years phones with exactly the same apps/account , without even trying
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I always keep wifi disabled. For me it's a huge security risk and I have an unlimited data plan.
Unless I need to get Gmail, Google Play Services is always off. Playstore runs in the background too more so if Google play Services is running.
It took me a while to tone down my N10+, it was a hot running hog. Hard to believe it's the same device/firmware. Setting up my new one was a snap... lessons learned.
i will wait for 1-2 updates from this thing, if nothing works i guess its time to root the main phone again after more than 5 years
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i will wait for 1-2 updates from this thing, if nothing works i guess its time to root the main phone again after more than 5 years
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You're going to have to optimize it. Updates may just make it more complicated to optimize... hard to say. I don't update my N10+'s.
A lot of downsides to rooting Samsung's especially if under warranty. The risk of an expensive brick is not appealing to me and Snapdragon's are notoriously hard to root.
They run very well once optimized but it can be challenging and time consuming.
A package disabler is a good tool for this but not sure if it works on Android 12. It makes it a lot easier, faster and is more flexible than adb edits.
It's very useful for troubleshooting on the fly.
you think there is a way to optimize this to perform similar to my pixel 2 xl ?
smaller and older battery , bigger display resolution, 6 days standby with the same google account, sim card, and software on it.
no matter how many bloat I remove from it. its just not there
I will try disabling gms to see how it performs, but i kind of need it for some of the apps.
xjust said:
you think there is a way to optimize this to perform similar to my pixel 2 xl ?
smaller and older battery , bigger display resolution, 6 days standby with the same google account, sim card, and software on it.
no matter how many bloat I remove from it. its just not there
I will try disabling gms to see how it performs, but i kind of need it for some of the apps.
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I have about 75 apks blocked and 5 more I toggle on/off if needed.
Disable only apps that need to be disabled especially any Samsung system apps. Many only run when needed and otherwise just sit there doing nothing. Which brings me to dependencies; disabling an app or service can have unintended consequences and be hard to track down. Samsung's have many features and are very customizable, most of those apks reflect and help do that. Lol, don't turn it into a Pixel.
Play Services is a true pain. PD stopped listing it so can't use the widget now to toggle it on/off.
I open settings>apps and punch "play" the search bar to take me to it to turn it off. Note: if Find my Device is set as system Administrator it needs to be deactivated otherwise the Google play Services disable is greyed out.
If you can find a firewall that logs with Android 11/12 it be a useful tool. I use Karma Firewall but it's logging feature only works with Pie. It will still block internet access by apps but you can easily see what's accessing the internet and when. Many don't need access all the time and shouldn't have it. Blocking also prevents forced updates and once a paid app like Accubattery is activated you can hide it from their server. Otherwise if Playstore is disabled it will lose its pro version status. The Google family of apps are wretched power hungry big sisters... they need serious toning down.
Lol, my work arounds are rather extensive and evolved over time. Some require manual input from me and although I don't really think about it much now... it wasn't always this way
However a side benefit is it helps you to develop your troubleshooting skills and tools for doing it. This is also why I don't update... more trouble than it's worth.
looks like a lot of work for the results samsung should've put on from the start
it would've been a lot more sales for them if every process ran was optional for each user to decide what he wants from their 'features'
all of them combined -> dead phone
ps. google play services needs any reboot if i disable/enable it ?
xjust said:
looks like a lot of work for the results samsung should've put on from the start
it would've been a lot more sales for them if every process ran was optional for each user to decide what he wants from their 'features'
all of them combined -> dead phone
ps. google play services needs any reboot if i disable/enable it ?
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Each user and configuration is different. It's not a boring Apple. That said Samsung's been dropping the ball since the Note 10+, that's been their zenith to date.
Google Android dived down the Apple rabbit hole starting with Android 10, its a mess that gets worse the higher the version. So secure that you can't use it effectively.
Playstore and apps dependent on an active handshake from Playwhore will need a reboot, otherwise no. I reboot every couple days, but rarely use Playstore
Once I initialize the Playstore dependent apps, I firewall block them to keep them locked to their pro versions. Bite me Playstore...
Gmail doesn't care. Of course it's won't autosync but I really don't care about that. I don't want Gookill holding my hand, screw them and their hype.
Funny you mentioned apple.
I moved to android after my iphone 6 couldn't last half a day. had most iphones since the first one
maybe its time to move back
xjust said:
Funny you mentioned apple.
I moved to android after my iphone 6 couldn't last half a day. had most iphones since the first one
maybe its time to move back
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Android's scoped storage remains a never ending tale of disaster. Google's long standing nose up attitude of expandable storage in favor of their cloud crap only makes matters worse.
Samsung and Google are inept malakas. You don't compete with Apple by mirroring Apple's mistakes...
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Hey there, guys.
I want to share with you my tweaks to get a better battery life while the tablet is on idle. [KitKat - Scroll down for lollipop update]
Processor state: Optimized.
Initial battery percent: 82%
Final battery percent: 45%
Battery percent loss: 37%
On Screen time: 1h 14m
Awake time: 1h 22m
Real awake time: 8 minutes.
Interval of time: 16h 55m
After many tests, I've notice that for every 10% of battery you get, at least, 30 minutes of Screen On. You can squeeze it even further to 40 minutes for every 10%
As you will see on the pictures, the WiFi was on for 10 hours, the rest was off because i went outside where WiFi was not available.
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Now, the next screenshot will show you the "Partial wakelocks", they are the one that keeps your tablet awake. The lower, the better, but some of then are necessary while you work/play/surf on the tablet, so they will be there anywhere.
Trying to understand the Blake_wakelock.
I've spent some time trying to figure out how to stop this wakelock. The blake_wakelock is used by the "Shield Wireless Controller" nVidia system App to pair the controller; i don't know why it keeps alive after turn off the controller; so far the only not-brute-force method i have to stop it is by turning off the WiFi, also, in good conditions the blake_wakelock stop itself whilts screen is off. Once you turn it on again it comes back to life.
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Requirements:
-------------------------------------------
Rooted Tablet.
System Tuner: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.pmw
(Optional) Disable Service: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
A list of what you need and What you don't need: The tweaks i'll show you is nothing more than disable many components that i don't need in some apps, for example, auto starts or syncing. Since i don't need location service, because i don't need my tablet to be with me all the time snaping pictures to instagram them and say "Hey, i am here, rapist", i don't need any of those, so, i disable everything related which is "safe" to disable.[/.]
[/list]
I'll attach to this thread a backup of the service i have disable, you can "restore" it using Disable service to auto disable the service. It may work for you or may not, so that's why i'll list the service i have off.
In order to see how to disable a service using System Tuner and achieving a short explanation, here is a video i made months ago about it using another android device:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dEwsckIa9E&list=UU7Gr3HOHtIF0i0_ptfaT0JA
List of unnecessary services:
Google Play Services:
Code:
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.analytics.service.AnalyticsService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.analytics.service.RefreshEnabledStateService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.analytics.internal.PlayLogReportingService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.analytics.service.PlayLogMonitorIntervalService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.checkin.EventLogService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.config.ConfigFetchService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.subscribedfeeds.SyncService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.playlog.service.PlayLogBrokerService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.plus.service.ImageIntentService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.plus.service.OfflineActionSyncAdapterService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.auth.be.proximity.authorization.userpresence.UserPresenceService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.common.analytics.CoreAnalyticsIntentService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.wearable.node.bluetooth.BluetoothClientService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.wearable.node.bluetooth.BluetoothServerService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.wearable.node.emulator.NetworkConnectionService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.wearable.service.WearableService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.wearable.service.WearableControlService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.service.DbCleanupService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.service.BrokeredFitnessService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.sensors.activity.ActivityRecognitionService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.sync.FitnessSyncAdapterService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.sensors.sample.CollectSensorService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.wearables.WearableSyncService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.service.DebugIntentService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.wearable.LocationWearableListenerService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.fused.NlpLocationReceiverService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.geocode.GeocodeService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.network.NetworkLocationService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.internal.GoogleLocationManagerService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.internal.server.GoogleLocationService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.reporting.service.ReportingAndroidService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.reporting.LocationReportingService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.reporting.service.LocationHistoryInjectorService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.reporting.service.DispatchingService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.places.PlaylogService
Normal User Applications:
I tend to look for service or activities/services/receivers such "Boot receiver", those trigger your app anytime your tablet boots up, keeping it awake. So, if you have an application that you enjoy and it auto start in background while you're not using it, you can disable those service and keep them calm.
I recommend SD Maid for detect autostart components and disable them easily using the "Toggle autostart components off/on". Indeed, if you keep using Facebook, you can control it by disabling a lot of trash services.
Code:
com.onelouder.baconreader/com.onelouder.baconreader.CakeDayService
com.onelouder.baconreader/com.onelouder.baconreader.billing.BillingService
com.onelouder.baconreader/com.google.analytics.tracking.android.CampaignTrackingService
Google Service Framework:
Code:
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.checkin.CheckinService
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.checkin.EventLogService
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.service.GTalkService
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.service.GTalkServiceProxy
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.service.ConnectionService
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.service.ConnectionServiceProxy
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.PushMessagingRegistrarProxy
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.PushMessagingRegistrar
In addition, Freeze Gtalk and Google Plus; you'll still able to sign into Google play games by leaving the rest of the Plus services active (The ones that are not listed as disabled).
Done.
Lollipop Update:
After a week of testing, Lollipop seems to be battery friendly, for example, the Blake_wakelock is not a problem anymore, on this new update the service is triggered anytime is needed, and it's killed once you disconnect your Shield Wireless Controller.
Without any extra tweaks, all the services disabled above still working fine for Android 5, but some others are not safe to disable; for example, disabling the Youtube Auto-start services cause several Play Service crashes and it's almost unusable.
The next pictures will show you the battery life i got with those tweaks and plus my power setting profile: 2 cores and 50% Max Speed. (The same results with Optimized profile, it seems like the Power Saving mode is not working properly on this update)
On normal conditions (Web surfing, reading and watching videos on Youtube and similar) the battery lost percent is 5% for each 15 minutes.
As you can see next, after 42min on screen, i lost 10% of the battery.
The settings menu shows 20 hours left:
After 60% of the battery consumed, i got 2hours 53min on screen. The 36min of held awake were due downloading games in the background. By that time my Shield was on battery since 1day 3hours and 32min:
And with that said, the settings - Battery shows 19 hours left on Battery:
GSAM Battery monitor measurement:
You can find attached the list (*.txt file) of the services I've disabled, you can actually use this with Disable Service app, place the file into /storage/emulated/0/ and restore it, all the changes will be applied (Root is mandatory)
More results (January, 2015 update):
This is what i got recently. Bright to 30% or kinda more, Optimized power mode and gaming (Sky Gamblers: Storm Raiders using iPega at maxed graphics, which is a battery eater with 10% of battery for every 15 minutes of game play - Stickman epic and GRID games). I'm rooted. Running OTA 2.0 Android 5.0
Starting from 93% to 28%; after 1 day and 12 hours, i found it at 82% (0.3% per hour) and a estimated of 13 days left:
So, after start playing demanding games, it went down quickly, still got a good life time expected on battery:
You can clearly see when i was playing:
Final measure (I don't like it goes under 40% or 20%
Obviously this tablet needs an improvement for future versions of it, with more power to offer a real good experience, but in my opinion, taking care of your battery will give you a good space to play with it.
Some disabled are trying unsuccessfully to achieve that by try and fail. Anyway...
I would like to see yours.
More results - Updated 01/10/2015
And even more! - Updated 23/01/2015
I just disabled these Google Play Services you mentioned, on my LG G2. Let's see...
CM17X said:
Hey there, guys.
I want to share with you my tweaks to get a better battery life while the tablet is on idle.
Processor state: Optimized.
Initial battery percent: 82%
Final battery percent: 45%
Battery percent loss: 37%
On Screen time: 1h 14m
Awake time: 1h 22m
Real awake time: 8 minutes.
Interval of time: 16h 55m
After many tests, I've notice that for every 10% of battery you get, at least, 30 minutes of Screen On. You can squeeze it even further to 40 minutes for every 10%
As you will see on the pictures, the WiFi was on for 10 hours, the rest was off because i went outside where WiFi was not available.
Now, the next screenshot will show you the "Partial wakelocks", they are the one that keeps your tablet awake. The lower, the better, but some of then are necessary while you work/play/surf on the tablet, so they will be there anywhere.
Trying to understand the Blake_wakelock.
I've spent some time trying to figure out how to stop this wakelock. The blake_wakelock is used by the "Shield Wireless Controller" nVidia system App to pair the controller; i don't know why it keeps alive after turn off the controller; so far the only not-brute-force method i have to stop it is by turning off the WiFi, also, in good conditions the blake_wakelock stop itself whilts screen is off. Once you turn it on again it comes back to life.
-------------------------------------------
Requirements:
-------------------------------------------
Rooted Tablet.
System Tuner: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.pmw
(Optional) Disable Service: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
A list of what you need and What you don't need: The tweaks i'll show you is nothing more than disable many components that i don't need in some apps, for example, auto starts or syncing. Since i don't need location service, because i don't need my tablet to be with me all the time snaping pictures to instagram them and say "Hey, i am here, rapist", i don't need any of those, so, i disable everything related which is "safe" to disable.[/.]
[/list]
I'll attach to this thread a backup of the service i have disable, you can "restore" it using Disable service to auto disable the service. It may work for you or may not, so that's why i'll list the service i have off.
In order to see how to disable a service using System Tuner and achieving a short explanation, here is a video i made months ago about it using another android device:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dEwsckIa9E&list=UU7Gr3HOHtIF0i0_ptfaT0JA
List of unnecessary services:
Google Play Services:
Code:
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.analytics.service.AnalyticsService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.analytics.service.RefreshEnabledStateService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.analytics.internal.PlayLogReportingService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.analytics.service.PlayLogMonitorIntervalService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.checkin.EventLogService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.config.ConfigFetchService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.subscribedfeeds.SyncService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.playlog.service.PlayLogBrokerService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.plus.service.ImageIntentService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.plus.service.OfflineActionSyncAdapterService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.auth.be.proximity.authorization.userpresence.UserPresenceService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.common.analytics.CoreAnalyticsIntentService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.wearable.node.bluetooth.BluetoothClientService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.wearable.node.bluetooth.BluetoothServerService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.wearable.node.emulator.NetworkConnectionService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.wearable.service.WearableService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.wearable.service.WearableControlService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.service.DbCleanupService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.service.BrokeredFitnessService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.sensors.activity.ActivityRecognitionService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.sync.FitnessSyncAdapterService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.sensors.sample.CollectSensorService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.wearables.WearableSyncService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.fitness.service.DebugIntentService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.wearable.LocationWearableListenerService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.fused.NlpLocationReceiverService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.geocode.GeocodeService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.network.NetworkLocationService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.internal.GoogleLocationManagerService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.internal.server.GoogleLocationService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.reporting.service.ReportingAndroidService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.reporting.LocationReportingService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.reporting.service.LocationHistoryInjectorService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.reporting.service.DispatchingService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.location.places.PlaylogService
Normal User Applications:
I tend to look for service or activities/services/receivers such "Boot receiver", those trigger your app anytime your tablet boots up, keeping it awake. So, if you have an application that you enjoy and it auto start in background while you're not using it, you can disable those service and keep them calm.
I recommend SD Maid for detect autostart components and disable them easily using the "Toggle autostart components off/on". Indeed, if you keep using Facebook, you can control it by disabling a lot of trash services.
Code:
com.onelouder.baconreader/com.onelouder.baconreader.CakeDayService
com.onelouder.baconreader/com.onelouder.baconreader.billing.BillingService
com.onelouder.baconreader/com.google.analytics.tracking.android.CampaignTrackingService
Google Service Framework:
Code:
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.checkin.CheckinService
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.checkin.EventLogService
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.service.GTalkService
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.service.GTalkServiceProxy
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.service.ConnectionService
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.service.ConnectionServiceProxy
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.PushMessagingRegistrarProxy
com.google.android.gsf/com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice.PushMessagingRegistrar
In addition, Freeze Gtalk and Google Plus; you'll still able to sign into Google play games by leaving the rest of the Plus services active (The ones that are not listed as disabled).
Done.
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Good work!
Another Screenshot of my battery life. This time i got 2hours+ on screen, considering i've played République which eats 10% of the battery every 15 minutes (High graphics)
Results with Lollipop Updated on the first post.
More results added to the first post.
what do these services do?
which apps need them?
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.checkin.EventLogService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.config.ConfigFetchService
freecore.mc said:
what do these services do?
which apps need them?
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.checkin.EventLogService
com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.config.ConfigFetchService
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You can find detailed information about it here: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/util/EventLog.html
About config. Fetchservice there is few/none information but is related to google fit.
Interesting indeed
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well done!!!!!
i wanna personally take the time to thank you for the effort put forth to find out the carp services we can eliminate to get our shields running balls out. i'll keep posting back no and then, just for s and g's and let ya know it's still kickin ass and throwing away the names.
ive also found (so far (fingers crossed)) that you can kill everything with "car" at the front under play services. i personally dont plan to use this beast in a car pretty much period, now im not a noob but this is a bit deeper than ive gotten on android (i used to do this kinda stuff for a livin on windows for years). but droid is a whole 'nother animal.
that said... thruth be told im homeless (lol)(no really) i spent a whole paycheck on my shield so i can game at camp. so thanks again for givin me a little more fun each day before i turn in.
i figure battery life and such falls under longevity so i thought i would post a bit here and more later to let ya know how all this keeps working on the road away from the grid and sometimes even a charging post.... (trees and tents dont have outlets)
that said... are there any OTHER things i can kill to get more life. and i mean the extreme stuff. i need NO location. no sync really unless i can tell it to myself (if i have only a few moments at a mcdonalds or sumfin to hit wifi i dont want it trying to sync and raping my batt)
how about apps? there are a ton i have no idea what is what. you have any clue what i can kill?
thanks again!!!!! blessed be
Pariahnoble said:
i wanna personally take the time to thank you for the effort put forth to find out the carp services we can eliminate to get our shields running balls out. i'll keep posting back no and then, just for s and g's and let ya know it's still kickin ass and throwing away the names.
ive also found (so far (fingers crossed)) that you can kill everything with "car" at the front under play services. i personally dont plan to use this beast in a car pretty much period, now im not a noob but this is a bit deeper than ive gotten on android (i used to do this kinda stuff for a livin on windows for years). but droid is a whole 'nother animal.
that said... thruth be told im homeless (lol)(no really) i spent a whole paycheck on my shield so i can game at camp. so thanks again for givin me a little more fun each day before i turn in.
i figure battery life and such falls under longevity so i thought i would post a bit here and more later to let ya know how all this keeps working on the road away from the grid and sometimes even a charging post.... (trees and tents dont have outlets)
that said... are there any OTHER things i can kill to get more life. and i mean the extreme stuff. i need NO location. no sync really unless i can tell it to myself (if i have only a few moments at a mcdonalds or sumfin to hit wifi i dont want it trying to sync and raping my batt)
how about apps? there are a ton i have no idea what is what. you have any clue what i can kill?
thanks again!!!!! blessed be
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Hey there, dude. Glad it worked for you, and i'll be waiting for your results.
About disabling the car features, you might do it, but i think it wouldn't gives you a major impact on your battery life, or at least it was never an issue for me. Anyway, you can try and see if this gives you even more.
In order to keep my system "under control", what i do is disable the auto-start in some apps i don't need it, also the push messages for those apps. For example, anytime i installed a game, i use SD Maid (Simple way to do it) for overview the app, if there is an autostart feature i disable it.
Facebook and stuff related could be a problem, but then again if you cut off the service you don't need from them, you'll be safe.
Good thread. I already disabled the services using your backup text.
I got a question, though. How can I re-enable all those services I disabled?? That's in case if something weird starts to happen*
*For ex: Google Play Music started to annoy me with a notification.
NaminatoR1254jaime.sier said:
Good thread. I already disabled the services using your backup text.
I got a question, though. How can I re-enable all those services I disabled?? That's in case if something weird starts to happen*
*For ex: Google Play Music started to annoy me with a notification.
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To revert back you should follow the rule number one on XDA: Backups first. Or, as you used the *.txt i've attached (I'll upload a new one) you can undo by hand one by one of the services disabled, which are listed.
It's kinda strange the error you're getting, if you don't mind, please post an screenshot or tell me what it says and i'll try to reproduce it.
Take care.
CM17X said:
To revert back you should follow the rule number one on XDA: Backups first. Or, as you used the *.txt i've attached (I'll upload a new one) you can undo by hand one by one of the services disabled, which are listed.
It's kinda strange the error you're getting, if you don't mind, please post an screenshot or tell me what it says and i'll try to reproduce it.
Take care.
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Its not an error. More of an annoyance. I couldnt reproduce it but its something small haha.
It was a Google notification, the classic triangle with the ! and it said: "Service disabled. An app needs this service" and the app was Google Play Music
I did a backup txt before disabling services, so no need to worry. I hadnt had anything wrong apart from that small notification
But thanks for your concern and for the new txt
is this mod really work and i want to know without gaming ,watch online video and surfing Facebook and other social network , did it survive a day?
ali_ge said:
is this mod really work and i want to know without gaming ,watch online video and surfing Facebook and other social network , did it survive a day?
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There are some pictures in the first post which show a battery life of about 2 days and 5 hours on screen. I do gaming sometimes and for long part of the day my tablet is on standby.
All depends the use you givento the tablet, a sustained use with optimized mode will not give you more than 6 hours on screen with low brightness, and with battery saver mode it could be more; neverthelesse you will not get 12 hours or 24 in screen with this device, just because the battery is tiny.
First post updated with the *.txt file lollipop based.
If you're having problems importing the file with Disable Service, just open the txt file and with the app of your choice, disable the services listed.
Greetings.
this may help you dude
https://youtu.be/zbl0sUs4xnA
Can you update this for MM?
I get roughly 30 minutes every 5%.
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Alright so I think I'm ready to comment on my Verizon s7 edge's battery life, as well as post a little guide that hopefully helps improve other Verizon users battery life.
For starters when I first got my phone and let it settle in (after the two updates) I had consistent 4 hours SOT with pretty heavy idle drain. I started scouring the forums to try and find out how to help the battery life.
There were a couple of things that I found on the forums that did help: install greenify app and turn on aggressive doze option, put all the normal battery sucking apps that I use into greenify (ESPN, CBS, Play Music), set location to GPS only, turn off ALL scanning options that are literally hidden multiple places throughout the phone (bluetooth and wifi), turn off google location reporting, turn off samsung security report collection and transmitting function, turn off fast charging (especially since I only charge up at night while I'm sleeping), and a few other things that I'm probably forgetting. After all of this I was getting around 5 hours SOT with medium idle drain.
Like most people who have paid for Package Disabler Pro, I had originally tried freezing all the bloat right away and discovered worse idle drain than not freezing bloat apps. Therefore for most of my testing I had left everything unfrozen. After I had implemented all the other stuff listed above, I dived back into investigating the app freezing situation. I seem to have made a discovery after some extensive testing.
From what I can tell many of the bloat apps are attached to a process that continues to try and function once the app is frozen. Most of us long time android users at this point would say "duh" lol. What I figured out however was that I could reset the process by clearing the system data for each app right before freezing it. For good measure I also cleared the data for the app after I froze it. I tried to account for each app that I considered to be bloat or was simply samsung battery sucking, and every process that was connected to that app that made it work. Although I have probably not accounted for all of them, I have definitely created enough of a dent in them to account for really good minimum idle battery drain. My testing has shown that this data clearing method works, and I will provide the battery pics to prove it.
Before I I go any further, I want to make it clear that all battery tests differ according to the users activities. I always am on 4G, never on WIFI (I have unlimited data). I always use auto brightness. My activities include Camera usage, ESPN app, Youtube app, Bible app, lots of web surfing (tech sites), Amazon shopping app, Zillow app, Realtor app, and things along these lines. I do not play any games, or do heavy task orientated benchmarks, or use facebook or social media apps. Also I have not disabled anything that effects HD calling, Samsung Pay, or apps edge (i use these things). I have disabled AOD since I don't use it, as well as all wifi calling processes, and certain edge apps that I don't use.
NOTE 1: You should review the list of apps I have disabled BEFORE you disable them, to ensure you are not losing any functions that you use (aka always on display)
NOTE 2: The focus here is killing background battery drainage, with the screen on or off. I have found great results FOR MY USAGE. Your usage will be different. But the hope is that by killing some of that background drain you can achieve longer overall battery life.
Alright so lets jump into the proof pics
Here is my last 2 days battery life stats
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As you can see, for my usage I was able to go 2 days with 6 hours SOT. All I can say is this is for real, and it cant hurt to try out what I did and see if you get similar results. I was on 4G data all the time (no wifi) and I was indoors a lot (not a lot of direct sunlight). These things helped the battery some, but the idle drain is nearly non existent right now. I left my phone unplugged overnight last night and had NO BATTERY DROP in the course of 6 hours. Not a single percent.
So besides all the tips listed at the top of this post, here is what I did with Package Disabler Pro.
1. Go into Package Disabler Pro and find each one of these apps (picture of apps below and attached to the post is the xml import document)
2. For each app BEFORE disabling it hit the CLEAR DATA button. Then quickly hit the DISABLE button. I say do it quickly because some of the apps will try and re-initiate its data a second after you clear it. Whether or not this is an important detail or not I am not sure, just trying to be thorough in my explanation.
3. Verify that the app now shows no data or cache, and that it is disabled (all this info is available right there in the Package Disabler app).
4. After disabling all the apps restart your phone.
After feedback from users in this thread, I have discovered EZ Package Disabler Pro, which does the same thing as Package Disabler Pro but has better layout and features. Here are the steps to complete the process using EZ Package Disabler Pro:
1. Go into EZ Package Disabler Pro and find each one of these apps (picture of apps below and attached to the post is the xml import document)
2. For each app BEFORE disabling it hit the CLEAR DATA button (you can find the clear data function under the "more" section of each app). Then press the DISABLE button.
3. Verify that the app now shows no data or cache, and that it is disabled (all this info is available right there in EZ Package Disabler Pro).
4. After disabling all the apps restart your phone.
And that's it. That is all I did. Most of these apps that are disabled I spent much time researching and figuring out what they did and whether to disable. I have lost no functions of my phone's normal use.
I hope this is helpful to someone else. I am definitely enjoying this phone a lot more now that I have great battery life. Still not as good as the international version (exynos) but its close enough for me.
Cheers!
That's interesting - When I get some time I'll give it a shot. I just did a factory reset on my phone, and this time did not install Package Disabler Pro, and instead just disabled some annoying bloatware like NFL, some Verizon crap, Amazon, etc., none of the processes that I had disabled before. It's early on, but I actually see the performance of the phone to be much more responsive than before, and it actually looks like doze is working. I think there is definitely something to be said for blindly disabling a bunch of services thinking it's only for the better.
geoff5093 said:
That's interesting - When I get some time I'll give it a shot. I just did a factory reset on my phone, and this time did not install Package Disabler Pro, and instead just disabled some annoying bloatware like NFL, some Verizon crap, Amazon, etc., none of the processes that I had disabled before. It's early on, but I actually see the performance of the phone to be much more responsive than before, and it actually looks like doze is working. I think there is definitely something to be said for blindly disabling a bunch of services thinking it's only for the better.
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Absolutely agree. I definitely spent way too much time trying to figure out exactly what apps I should disable lol. But in the end it has definitely been worth it.
If you try it let me know your results. I will be attempting this on my dad's s7 edge when I see him next so I can try and verify it on my end as well. My dad lives 4 hours away so I don't see him very often.
dajmanjt said:
Absolutely agree. I definitely spent way too much time trying to figure out exactly what apps I should disable lol. But in the end it has definitely been worth it.
If you try it let me know your results. I will be attempting this on my dad's s7 edge when I see him next so I can try and verify it on my end as well. My dad lives 4 hours away so I don't see him very often.
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At least your mom isn't on an S3 still and perfectly happy lol
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geoff5093 said:
At least your mom isn't on an S3 still and perfectly happy lol
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lol could be worse..... my mom is on an iphone 6
dajmanjt said:
Alright so I think I'm ready to comment on my Verizon s7 edge's battery life, as well as post a little guide that hopefully helps improve other Verizon users battery life.
For starters when I first got my phone and let it settle in (after the two updates) I had consistent 4 hours SOT with pretty heavy idle drain. I started scouring the forums to try and find out how to help the battery life.
There were a couple of things that I found on the forums that did help: install greenify app and turn on instant doze setting, put all the normal battery sucking apps that I use into greenify (ESPN, CBS, Play Music), set location to GPS only, turn off ALL scanning options that are literally hidden multiple places throughout the phone (bluetooth and wifi), turn off google location reporting, turn off samsung security report collection and transmitting function, turn off fast charging (especially since I only charge up at night while I'm sleeping), and a few other things that I'm probably forgetting. After all of this I was getting around 5 hours SOT with medium idle drain.
Like most people who have paid for Package Disabler Pro, I had originally tried freezing all the bloat right away and discovered worse idle drain than not freezing bloat apps. Therefore for most of my testing I had left everything unfrozen. After I had implemented all the other stuff listed above, I dived back into investigating the app freezing situation. I seem to have made a discovery after some extensive testing.
From what I can tell many of the bloat apps are attached to a process that continues to try and function once the app is frozen. Most of us long time android users at this point would say "duh" lol. What I figured out however was that I could reset the process by clearing the system data for each app right before freezing it. For good measure I also cleared the data for the app after I froze it. I tried to account for each app that I considered to be bloat or was simply samsung battery sucking, and every process that was connected to that app that made it work. Although I have probably not accounted for all of them, I have definitely created enough of a dent in them to account for really good minimum idle battery drain. My testing has shown that this data clearing method works, and I will provide the battery pics to prove it.
Before I post my current battery life screenshots, xls list for Package disabler, and details on how to do this, I want to make it clear that all battery tests differ according to the users activities. I always am on 4G, never on WIFI (I have unlimited data). I always use auto brightness. My activities include Camera usage, ESPN app, Youtube app, Bible app, lots of web surfing (tech sites), Amazon shopping app, Zillow app, Realtor app, and things along these lines. I do not play any games, or do heavy task orientated benchmarks, or use facebook or social media apps. Also I have not disabled anything that effects HD calling, Samsung Pay, or apps edge (i use these things). I have disabled AOD since I don't use it, as well as all wifi calling processes, and certain edge apps that I don't use. You should review the list of apps I have disabled BEFORE you disabling them, to ensure you are not losing any functions that you use.
NOTE: The focus here is killing background battery drainage, with the screen on or off. I have found great results FOR MY USAGE. Your usage will be different. But the hope is that by killing some of that background drain you can achieve longer overall battery life.
Alright so lets jump into the proof pics
Here is my last 2 days battery life stats
As you can see, for my usage I was able to go 2 days with 6 hours SOT. And yes, if I was reading this post i would cry wolf and say no way, not on a sd820 verizon s7 edge. All I can say is this is for real, and it cant hurt to try out what I did and see if you get similar results. I was on 4G data all the time (no wifi) and I was indoors a lot (not a lot of direct sunlight). These things helped the battery some, but the idle drain is nearly non existent right now. I left my phone unplugged overnight last night and had NO BATTERY DROP in the course of 6 hours. Not a single percent.
So besides all the tips listed at the top of this post, here is what I did with Package Disabler Pro.
1. Go into Package Disabler Pro and find each one of these apps (picture of apps below and attached to the post is the xls import document)
2. For each app BEFORE disabling it hit the CLEAR DATA button. Then quickly hit the DISABLE button. I say do it quickly because some of the apps will try and re-initiate its data a second after you clear it. Whether or not this is an important detail or not I am not sure, just trying to be thorough in my explanation.
3. Verify that the app now shows no data or cache, and that it is disabled (all this info is available right there in the Package Disabler app).
4. After disabling all the apps restart your phone.
And that's it. That is all I did. Most of these apps that are disabled I spent much time researching and figuring out what they did and whether to disable. I have lost no functions of my phone's normal use.
I hope this is helpful to someone else. I am definitely enjoying this phone a lot more now that I have great battery life. Still not as good as the international version (exynos) but its close enough for me.
Cheers!
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Thank you for the awesome tip. I'm going to give those suggestions a try. Can you please tell me how to enable doze? I though t the S7 Edge automatically went to doze when not in use?
Jonbelloguzman said:
Thank you for the awesome tip. I'm going to give those suggestions a try. Can you please tell me how to enable doze? I though t the S7 Edge automatically went to doze when not in use?
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It SHOULD go into doze mode automatically. Sometimes it does and sometimes it gets hung up and takes forever to go into doze. Basically Greenify has an option to try and put it into doze mode really quickly, thereby giving you much better standby time. Here is an article on it to better inform you on it.
http://www.androidauthority.com/greenify-update-671216/
Cheers!
dajmanjt said:
It SHOULD go into doze mode automatically. Sometimes it does and sometimes it gets hung up and takes forever to go into doze. Basically Greenify has an option to try and put it into doze mode really quickly, thereby giving you much better standby time. Here is an article on it to better inform you on it.
http://www.androidauthority.com/greenify-update-671216/
Cheers!
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Thank you for getting back to me. I really appreciate it.
Does package disabler pro really get rid of the stuff? Or is it just hiding it?
I know on rooted devices with Titanium, when something was frozen, it was as good as gone.
This doesn't seem to be the case here at all.
cpufrost said:
Does package disabler pro really get rid of the stuff? Or is it just hiding it?
I know on rooted devices with Titanium, when something was frozen, it was as good as gone.
This doesn't seem to be the case here at all.
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In my experience when I clear the app data and force disable it through package disabler pro, it is the same as freezing things through titanium. However titanium will always have better success rate because it has root and can break any processes that are attached to the app forcibly. Package disabler does work but it is still just a workaround for us folks stuck without root forever.
I'm just glad we have something lol
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I disabled alot of what you disabled, and some I left out, but what did you disable that won't allow Gallery photos to be cropped?
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Ok so I factory reset my phone and noticed package disabler pro (Samsung) had a price next to it. Weird as I purchased it last fall (for my Note 5). I found another that's rated better and I thought if I have to pay (again) why not try something else? I bought EZ Package Disabler from the Play Store, installed it and manually disabled everything I don't want. Did not worry about clearing cache for each app as well. Kind of in a hurry to get my phone back LOL.
Restored all my apps from Play Store and took my phone off the wireless charger.
Got to my office this AM and noticed a first, battery at 100%.
Currently now off the charger for over 5 hours and 50 minutes, 25min of screen time and battery now is 93%. That's a first for this device LOL.
Can see in the battery discharge graph the nearly flat lines when the device is sleeping/dozing as it should be!
It may be fixed, finally!
Android system is 19 percent for now. Let's see after 2 or 3 days
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cpufrost said:
I found another that's rated better and I thought if I have to pay (again) why not try something else? I bought EZ Package Disabler from the Play Store, installed it and manually disabled everything I don't want. Did not worry about clearing cache for each app as well. Kind of in a hurry to get my phone back LOL.
Restored all my apps from Play Store and took my phone off the wireless charger.
Got to my office this AM and noticed a first, battery at 100%.
Currently now off the charger for over 5 hours and 50 minutes, 25min of screen time and battery now is 93%. That's a first for this device LOL.
Can see in the battery discharge graph the nearly flat lines when the device is sleeping/dozing as it should be!
It may be fixed, finally!
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Yes, I'm at the same situation. Currently i'm using EZ Package Disabler. It's much faster, friendly UI and has a lot of descriptions. Easier to make a decision which packages should be disabled.
After tweaks
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So Android systems is down
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But Gallery closes when trying to crop a photo argh
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Nvm worked lol
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SEVENEDGE said:
I disabled alot of what you disabled, and some I left out, but what did you disable that won't allow Gallery photos to be cropped?
VZ S7 EDGE ONYX
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I use Quickpic instead of gallery so I disabled it completely. Didn't like how it always ran in the background lol
cpufrost said:
Ok so I factory reset my phone and noticed package disabler pro (Samsung) had a price next to it. Weird as I purchased it last fall (for my Note 5). I found another that's rated better and I thought if I have to pay (again) why not try something else? I bought EZ Package Disabler from the Play Store, installed it and manually disabled everything I don't want. Did not worry about clearing cache for each app as well. Kind of in a hurry to get my phone back LOL.
Restored all my apps from Play Store and took my phone off the wireless charger.
Got to my office this AM and noticed a first, battery at 100%.
Currently now off the charger for over 5 hours and 50 minutes, 25min of screen time and battery now is 93%. That's a first for this device LOL.
Can see in the battery discharge graph the nearly flat lines when the device is sleeping/dozing as it should be!
It may be fixed, finally!
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So I went and paid for EZ Package Disabler Pro to give it a shot and I absolutely agree that it has a much better system in place to understand applications and processes. Also the feature that lets you see everything that is currently running is AWESOME! Good find.
SEVENEDGE said:
Android system is 19 percent for now. Let's see after 2 or 3 days
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Mine stays around 20% consistently or below with my usual daily usage.
ricoyakuza said:
Yes, I'm at the same situation. Currently i'm using EZ Package Disabler. It's much faster, friendly UI and has a lot of descriptions. Easier to make a decision which packages should be disabled.
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Absoluetly agree about EZ Package Disabler. I prefer its layout and features. However I think some of the processes need to be reset before they are disabled. The only way I can reset them is to clear their data. EZ Package Disabler does not let you clear data from within the app. So I am using both EZ Package Disabler and Package Disabler lol
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So Android systems is down
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But Gallery closes when trying to crop a photo argh
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Nvm worked lol
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Yea overall I am definitely noticing much better background drain overall. Think if the s7 edge was a nexus phone running complete stock firmware..... it would have been the best phone ever made lol
dajmanjt said:
I use Quickpic instead of gallery so I disabled it completely. Didn't like how it always ran in the background lol
So I went and paid for EZ Package Disabler Pro to give it a shot and I absolutely agree that it has a much better system in place to understand applications and processes. Also the feature that lets you see everything that is currently running is AWESOME! Good find.
Mine stays around 20% consistently or below with my usual daily usage.
Absoluetly agree about EZ Package Disabler. I prefer its layout and features. However I think some of the processes need to be reset before they are disabled. The only way I can reset them is to clear their data. EZ Package Disabler does not let you clear data from within the app. So I am using both EZ Package Disabler and Package Disabler lol
Yea overall I am definitely noticing much better background drain overall. Think if the s7 edge was a nexus phone running complete stock firmware..... it would have been the best phone ever made lol
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And how do you edit slow motion video made with the camera?
Sended from my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Gold Platinum
turtuv said:
And how do you edit slow motion video made with the camera?
Sended from my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Gold Platinum
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To be honest I have not edited any slow motion video on my s7 edge yet. But if/when I do i'll probably use kinemaster
http://www.kinemaster.com/kinemaster/main/en/
dajmanjt said:
I use Quickpic instead of gallery so I disabled it completely. Didn't like how it always ran in the background lol
So I went and paid for EZ Package Disabler Pro to give it a shot and I absolutely agree that it has a much better system in place to understand applications and processes. Also the feature that lets you see everything that is currently running is AWESOME! Good find.
Mine stays around 20% consistently or below with my usual daily usage.
Absoluetly agree about EZ Package Disabler. I prefer its layout and features. However I think some of the processes need to be reset before they are disabled. The only way I can reset them is to clear their data. EZ Package Disabler does not let you clear data from within the app. So I am using both EZ Package Disabler and Package Disabler lol
Yea overall I am definitely noticing much better background drain overall. Think if the s7 edge was a nexus phone running complete stock firmware..... it would have been the best phone ever made lol
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In about a 5 or 6 hour span, I lost about 2 percent while I slept. There is a 40 minute kept awake time. There is maybe an app that's not letting it completely doze? What thinkest thou?
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Battery has been bad since I switch to note 20 ultra from note 10+.
Trying to find the root cause.
Anyone knows what mde service framework is? Can't find much info on it..
aarick said:
Battery has been bad since I switch to note 20 ultra from note 10+.
Trying to find the root cause.
Anyone knows what mde service framework is? Can't find much info on it..
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Could it be this .....quote from G search >
What is MDE Service Framework?
The Android media router framework allows manufacturers to enable playback on their devices through a standardized interface called a MediaRouteProvider . ... This guide discusses how to create a media route provider for a receiver device and make it available to other media playback applications that run on Android.Dec 27, 2019
link to my G search
https://www.google.com/search?safe=...hUKEwiJ6LLOo43sAhVtx4UKHQs9A-gQ1QIoAHoECAsQAQ
Maybe try a Factory Reset .
Could it be ,that when switching from /old backups from N10 + /re installing apps /setting /Smart switch ...etc something got corrupted ...?
I know it's a hassle, to factory reset , but as i see it
You can "stress " and look for the "culprit " , that causes the battery drain or
maybe try a factory reset ...it might help ??
Good luck
•Try to find the issues of this load otherwise doing a hard reset may only land you in the same situation.
Lot of junk running... do you need it?
A package blocker like PD MDM can be used to turn off bloatware.
Cloud services and Goggle backup tend to be habitual offenders.
Turn off Google, Samsung and carrier feedback.
I had a lot of trouble with ARcore, disable it if you aren't using augmented reality applications.
Clear data on Goggle Backup Transport, Goggle Framework and google.android.gms.policy.
Clear system cache and log files with a cleaner.
SD Maid does a good job.
I use the old version of Device Care to clean the cache when it used 360° however I block internet access when it runs then package block it because of the Chinese junk in it. It's a good cache cleaner
•Turn off 3rd party power management apks and like Adroid manage its self. Don't set apps to sleep.
•Clear system cache on the boot menu.
In Developer options in Running Services, see what's running. In Stand By Apps all buckets should show as active, if not power management is being used. Android will power them down when not in use even if shown as active.
•Monitor your battery milliamp draw in realtime; at idle it should go down as low as 60 ma at times and average about 180-300 ma at idle. Frequent or sustained spikes in the 400-1000+ range indicate excessive cpu activity; find what's doing it. Examine what was recently opened or cache when the drain starts in Running Services in Developer Options.
•Before doing a hard reset try resetting Settings; it's less drastic and time consuming.
•If you do a hard reset be more careful during setup.
Avoid loading a bunch of junk 3rd party apps... keep it clean. Test new 3rd party apps before the reload if you can.
Play with it... observe and play some more... you will find it.
Go through all the settings, poke around, see what's there and learn what it does. Unlike playing in the Windows Registry it's relatively safe to do and fun
blackhawk said:
•Try to find the issues of this load otherwise doing a hard reset may only land you in the same situation.
Lot of junk running... do you need it?
A package blocker like PD MDM can be used to turn off bloatware.
Cloud services and Goggle backup tend to be habitual offenders.
Turn off Google, Samsung and carrier feedback.
I had a lot of trouble with ARcore, disable it if you aren't using augmented reality applications.
Clear data on Goggle Backup Transport, Goggle Framework and google.android.gms.policy.
Clear system cache and log files with a cleaner.
SD Maid does a good job.
I use the old version of Device Care to clean the cache when it used 360° however I block internet access when it runs then package block it because of the Chinese junk in it. It's a good cache cleaner
•Turn off 3rd party power management apks and like Adroid manage its self. Don't set apps to sleep.
•Clear system cache on the boot menu.
In Developer options in Running Services, see what's running. In Stand By Apps all buckets should show as active, if not power management is being used. Android will power them down when not in use even if shown as active.
•Monitor your battery milliamp draw in realtime; at idle it should go down as low as 60 ma at times and average about 180-300 ma at idle. Frequent or sustained spikes in the 400-1000+ range indicate excessive cpu activity; find what's doing it. Examine what was recently opened or cache when the drain starts in Running Services in Developer Options.
•Before doing a hard reset try resetting Settings; it's less drastic and time consuming.
•If you do a hard reset be more careful during setup.
Avoid loading a bunch of junk 3rd party apps... keep it clean. Test new 3rd party apps before the reload if you can.
Play with it... observe and play some more... you will find it.
Go through all the settings, poke around, see what's there and learn what it does. Unlike playing in the Windows Registry it's relatively safe to do and fun
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appreciate the suggestion. Considering I had all the same apps on my note 10 and didn't have similar issue. Am incline to believe issue is related to restoring with smart switch. So will consider doing a reset when I have the time to set everything up manually.
aarick said:
appreciate the suggestion. Considering I had all the same apps on my note 10 and didn't have similar issue. Am incline to believe issue is related to restoring with smart switch. So will consider doing a reset when I have the time to set everything up manually.
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I don't like smart switch or trust it. This type of Samsung apk has failed me miserably before... bugware.
The 10+ between Goggle, Samsung and carrier apks can be witchy. Lots of junk that does nothing for you and creates conflicts that suck resources/power/internet bandwidth are all too common.
Since each configuration is different you need to play with it.
Without root you lack advanced diagnostic tools which makes it more difficult as if Google wants it that way... effective real time monitors I can use in Windows are completely missing in Android.
Note 20 ultra user here myself, by chance have you got mobile hotspot active? Or the auto hotspot running? Just done a Google search for the service and found this thread. For me turning off the hotspot and auto hotspot stopped the battery drain for this service in its tracks. I have also noticed the phone getting alarmingly hot 50c to 55c when it is switched on and in use, though saying that I'm finding general use makes the phone uncomfortably hot to hold
Im using N20 ultra exynos version and only in the beginning the phone would get hot and battery life is very poor. After about 3-4 weeks im seeing a massive improvement in device performance and battery life. Using ccswe to disable packages. Naptime helping stand by battery drain as well.
blackhawk said:
•Try to find the issues of this load otherwise doing a hard reset may only land you in the same situation.
Lot of junk running... do you need it?
A package blocker like PD MDM can be used to turn off bloatware.
Cloud services and Goggle backup tend to be habitual offenders.
Turn off Google, Samsung and carrier feedback.
I had a lot of trouble with ARcore, disable it if you aren't using augmented reality applications.
Clear data on Goggle Backup Transport, Goggle Framework and google.android.gms.policy.
Clear system cache and log files with a cleaner.
SD Maid does a good job.
I use the old version of Device Care to clean the cache when it used 360° however I block internet access when it runs then package block it because of the Chinese junk in it. It's a good cache cleaner
•Turn off 3rd party power management apks and like Adroid manage its self. Don't set apps to sleep.
•Clear system cache on the boot menu.
In Developer options in Running Services, see what's running. In Stand By Apps all buckets should show as active, if not power management is being used. Android will power them down when not in use even if shown as active.
•Monitor your battery milliamp draw in realtime; at idle it should go down as low as 60 ma at times and average about 180-300 ma at idle. Frequent or sustained spikes in the 400-1000+ range indicate excessive cpu activity; find what's doing it. Examine what was recently opened or cache when the drain starts in Running Services in Developer Options.
•Before doing a hard reset try resetting Settings; it's less drastic and time consuming.
•If you do a hard reset be more careful during setup.
Avoid loading a bunch of junk 3rd party apps... keep it clean. Test new 3rd party apps before the reload if you can.
Play with it... observe and play some more... you will find it.
Go through all the settings, poke around, see what's there and learn what it does. Unlike playing in the Windows Registry it's relatively safe to do and fun
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Hey! Thank you so much for your tips. Can you please point out a good app for measuring standby power usage? I used to use Gsam Battery Monitor Pro, but that no longer seems to be compatible with my Snapdragon Note 20 Ultra. I don't get accurate reading and it seems the dev has abandoned the app (last update Jan 2020)
xenofont said:
Hey! Thank you so much for your tips. Can you please point out a good app for measuring standby power usage? I used to use Gsam Battery Monitor Pro, but that no longer seems to be compatible with my Snapdragon Note 20 Ultra. I don't get accurate reading and it seems the dev has abandoned the app (last update Jan 2020)
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Not sure what works with Q; I'm running Pie.
Galaxy's Battery Tracker is useful.
I use the Accubattery overlay sometimes to measure ma but again Q.
DecChek is a useful tool.
Duplicate entry removed.
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Not sure what works with Q; I'm running Pie.
Galaxy's Battery Tracker is useful.
I use the Accubattery overlay sometimes to measure ma but again Q.
DecChek is a useful tool.
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have DevCheck installed. Does the Pro version allow to keep it running in the background collecting data for analysis later? I specifically want to understand how much is the drain in standby mode and whether T-mobile 5G could also be the culprit here?
Looks like DevCheck won't collect data silently in the background. So any recommendations for a reliable app to measure standby drain would be very welcome.
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have DevCheck installed. Does the Pro version allow to keep it running in the background collecting data for analysis later? I specifically want to understand how much is the drain in standby mode and whether T-mobile 5G could also be the culprit here?
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Don't know.
Goggle system apks are more likely to blame.
Try blocking suspects with Karma Firewall and see what it does.
Turn off auto sync for Gmail and look hard at 3rd party apps including Samsung.
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Looks like DevCheck won't collect data silently in the background. So any recommendations for a reliable app to measure standby drain would be very welcome.
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Use GSAM after enabling permissions via adb. Make sure the app is also not set to be optimized or restricted in background usage .
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Use GSAM after enabling permissions via adb. Make sure the app is also not set to be optimized or restricted in background usage .
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Tried all of that already. Did you get accurate readings?
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Tried all of that already. Did you get accurate readings?
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Accurate enough for me to determine what is using my battery and make necessary adjustments, yes.
So when you tried that already, what did you come up with? You see MDE Framework in there?
The mde service framework is a system service that enables media playback on Android devices. It provides APIs to support the following media playback operations:
- playing audio and video files
- streaming audio and video content
- recording audio and video
- managing playback queue
- managing media player settings
The mde service framework is implemented in the media server process and uses the MediaDrm API to support DRM-protected content. See also https://grouphowto.com/mde-service-framework/
I am running OOS 10.3.8 (rooted) on my OP 7Pro. I run the following command to force a certain app into the "ACTIVE" App Standby Bucket ...
am set-standby-bucket package.name active
After doing this, how long will the app remain in that "ACTIVE" bucket under this version of OOS? Will it live there forever because of the fact that I put it there with the above command? Or will the OS eventually take over and perhaps move it to a different bucket? All the docs I could find about this topic state that each OS has its own way of managing the placement of apps into these buckets. I'm wondering whether anyone knows specifically how OOS 10.3.8 does this.
I want that particular app to always live in the "ACTIVE" bucket, and so if the OS eventually moves it, I will have to periodically put it back into "ACTIVE", which I can easily do via Tasker.
Thank you in advance for any thoughts about this.
On Samsung's if power management is disabled all app buckets stay in the active state.
If you do not enable power management the bucket state will not alter.
Note 10+/Android 9 or 10
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On Samsung's if power management is disabled all app buckets stay in the active state.
If you do not enable power management the bucket state will not alter.
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Thank you very much. Does anyone know how this functions specifically in Oxygen OS on an OP 7Pro? There is nothing in the settings for that OS called "Power Management".
(This XDA forum is for "OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers".)
HippoMan said:
Thank you very much. Does anyone know how this functions specifically in Oxygen OS on an OP 7Pro? There is nothing in the settings for that OS called "Power Management".
(This XDA forum is for "OnePlus 7 Pro Questions & Answers".)
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Interesting.
Samsung customizes their UI heavily. Not sure how other manufacturers handle this. Lol, using power management in my case on Samsung's leads to erratic behavior and heavier power consumption even after days
If all buckets show as active and if trying to reset their bucket state will not take (change state, close Developer options then reopen to see if it took), then nothing more should need to be done. The apps apps are already running in their active bucket state which is the default setting.
That doesn't mean they're continously running full bore; Android will generally manage them effectively and efficiently in this state from what I've observed. I deal with power hogs on a case by case basis without power management.
Turning off battery background use in individual apps does not alter the bucket state, at least on my devices.
Play with it... see how it behaves.
blackhawk said:
Interesting.
Samsung customizes their UI heavily. Not sure how other manufacturers handle this. Lol, using power management in my case on Samsung's leads to erratic behavior and heavier power consumption even after days
If all buckets show as active and if trying to reset their bucket state will not take (change state, close Developer options then reopen to see if it took), then nothing more should need to be done. The apps apps are already running in their active bucket state which is the default setting.
That doesn't mean they're continously running full bore; Android will generally manage them effectively and efficiently in this state from what I've observed. I deal with power hogs on a case by case basis without power management.
Turning off battery background use in individual apps does not alter the bucket state, at least on my devices.
Play with it... see how it behaves.
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Thank you. In my case, OOS doesn't put all apps into the "ACTIVE" bucket. It has some sort of algorithm for deciding between the various states, and different apps appear in different buckets.
That's what the docs about Android's App Standby Buckets say is supposed to happen, and these docs also state that each OS can manage the decisions differently about which apps to put into which buckets, and when to do so.
These docs also state that an app in the "ACTIVE" bucket is supposed to behave as if it's in the foreground, which means that it has normal network priority. Samsung might override this behavior of "ACTIVE" apps, but if so, it would be a deviation from the specs.
I am already playing around with this on my device. I'm just not sure whether an app will stay "ACTIVE" forever after I do the following ...
Code:
am set-standby-bucket package.name active
... or whether at some point after I issue that command, the OS will take over. Eventually I'll figure it out. I'm just asking here in this OnePlus forum in case anyone who is familiar with the inner workings of OnePlus devices and OOS already knows the answer.
HippoMan said:
Thank you. In my case, OOS doesn't put all apps into the "ACTIVE" bucket. It has some sort of algorithm for deciding between the various states, and different apps appear in different buckets.
That's what the docs about Android's App Standby Buckets say is supposed to happen, and these docs also state that each OS can manage the decisions differently about which apps to put into which buckets, and when to do so.
These docs also state that an app in the "ACTIVE" bucket is supposed to behave as if it's in the foreground, which means that it has normal network priority. Samsung might override this behavior of "ACTIVE" apps, but if so, it would be a deviation from the specs.
I am already playing around with this on my device. I'm just not sure whether an app will stay "ACTIVE" forever after I do the following ...
Code:
am set-standby-bucket package.name active
... or whether at some point after I issue that command, the OS will take over. Eventually I'll figure it out. I'm just asking here in this OnePlus forum in case anyone who is familiar with the inner workings of OnePlus devices and OOS already knows the answer.
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I read the whole Google bucket explanation. In the end I went with what works best real world.
Lol, I played with this a lot a while back.
Google will keep improving something until they screw it up.
After looking around on the web I think you may have similar power management apps on that device ie battery optimization. There could be more on drop down menus as well.
I wouldn't alter the bucket state with abd. If it's already set as active it's probably the optimized already. I use standby apps just to double check that power management isn't active as I've seen first hand the mess it can cause.
blackhawk said:
I read the whole Google bucket explanation. In the end I went with what works best real world.
Lol, I played with this a lot a while back.
Google will keep improving something until they screw it up.
After looking around on the web I think you may have similar power management apps on that device ie battery optimization. There could be more on drop down menus as well.
I wouldn't alter the bucket state with abd. If it's already set as active it's probably the optimized already. I use standby apps just to double check that power management isn't active as I've seen first hand the mess it can cause.
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I understand, but mine is a special case.
The OnePlus devices and their OOS operating system are particularly bad concerning push-notifications. They over-do the Doze-related, battery-saving procedures so much that many push-notifications don't even get delivered to apps at all until the app is opened up in the foreground, which could be many minutes or even hours after the notification was originally sent.
Turning battery optimzation off for those apps has no effect. Nor do any of the many different Doze profiles that I have tried. And "whitelisting" the apps is simply what happens when battery optimization is turned off, and it therefore has no effect.
I have to put those apps into the "ACTIVE" bucket, and only then do they reliably receive those otherwise highly delayed push-notifications at the time that they are sent.
I have spent a lot of time trying to correct this problem, and I only came up with two solutions: (1) Use Tasker to periodically open those apps in the foreground for a few seconds, so they can repeatedly get caught up with any pending, undelivered push-notifications; or (2) put the apps in question into the "ACTIVE" bucket.
Obviously, the second alternative is less intrusive to my everyday use of my device.
I have not experienced any negative consequences of putting those apps into the "ACTIVE" bucket.
Is there any solution to prevent the screen from dimming after a while when using the phone ? I know that is from thermal protection but is very annoying . Its the first phone to own that has this problem . Good guardians settings dont work on this. I find an activity that is probably rensposible for this but i cannot deactivate it .
Samsung Device Health Manager Service
com.sec.android.sdhms.debugger.ui.ThermalLimitSet
tingActivity
Is there a way through adb to disable this ? I know it is dangerous but i will take the responsibility.
Figure out why it's using so much power and correct those issues. Even with the thermal protection you can cause damage like this. Eventually you will...
I know what is using so much power, its the.. Exynos chip..! And the only way to correct this issue is to buy s23u. Unfortunately if I do that i will lose a lot of money, that's why I am trying to make this phone to work as it should be..
andreasarxon said:
I know what is using so much power, its the.. Exynos chip..! And the only way to correct this issue is to buy s23u. Unfortunately if I do that i will lose a lot of money, that's why I am trying to make this phone to work as it should be..
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The Exynos may not be as good as the Snapdragon but the excessive power consumption is likely more settings, usage and/or app related. The S22 and 23's seem to be power hogs with both chipsets.
Regardless all Samsung's should be optimized for best performance.
Start by using manual brightness control, avoid going over 50% or using in direct sunlight for more than a few seconds. Cloud apps and Google backup Transport are known habitual offenders. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see how much this helps; Playstore and backup Transport are dependencies.
Keep all social media, news and sales apps off the phone. Disable Google, Samsung, app and carrier feedback.
Package Disabler is helpful or you can use LADB edits, just don't go too nuts. Target power hogs and complete crapware like Digital Wellbeing.
Redundant Google apps where there's a better Samsung app can be disabled or package blocked. Deal with each power hog on a case by case basis; Do Not use global power management as it never worked right. Leave the dozens of smaller Samsung system apps alone unless they are using excessive power; most just sit there using little resources until needed.
Play with it... this will take some time and effort.