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MAXIMIZE the Battery Life of your Note 3 (Fix to Battery Drain issue)

Firstly, I want to say that this thread is based on the Exynos Note 3, not because it will work only for that device, but because it is the device I own at the time of this OP. HOWEVER, I can assure you that the tips in the second part of this guide, tagged 'IMPORTANT TIPS', would go for just about ANY device running android as the effects are similar. Now... Read On!
Since the MJ7 update was released, some Note 3 users have been experiencing weird battery drain issues, the MK2 update was also released and it didn't seem to fix it either.
While some users say a factory reset did fix their battery drain issues, many still have it after doing the factory reset, Me being an example.
I think the main problem is that the phone doesn't go into deep sleep.
So, I took sometime to research a fix and couldn't find a really solid fix, so I decided to go for the Next Best Thing, tweaks/settings.
Tweaking the phone in such a way that you maximize your battery use is what I will write about in this thread.
After tweaking my phone, I was able to hit 9hrs 30mins screen time with a total time of just over 1 day (24hrs), WiFi on ALL through. Not much Voice call time however.
On Mobile data, the tweaks won't give you this much time but still expect about 5 to hrs screen time.
How did I achieve this? That's what I will share below. But before I do, I will like to say that I have the Exynos Note 3 and this might be somehow targetted to that device (mentioned this earlier). However, if you have a Snapdragon Note 3 or any other Android device for that matter, I'm sure one or two things from this post will be helpful to you.
I will also say that 'Root' is quite important for some of the tips. If you are not rooted, you can just apply the ones that don't need root.
And For Non-Root users, Freezing App in TB can also be done manually to some apps by going into Settings > General > Application manager > All. Then scroll to the app you want to disable say Maps which is a HUGE battery drainer as i will mention below, select it then click the button at the left top which says 'Disable', I think it says 'Turn Off' in KitKat.
1. Factory Reset: I think the first thing to do first is Factory reset your phone, just maybe! That might work for you. You can also skip this step as factory reset is alot of work and might not be worth the stress in the end. But, I think a fresh start is always good once in a while NOTE: Backup your Internal SD to your PC or another flash media device FIRST if you decide to factory reset!
THE MAIN PART
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2. Kernel: Download a good Custom Kernel that also has the 'ondemand' governor. For Exynos Users, I recommend goodHanrry-kernel v2.0A (Used in first test)
Get it from his thread here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569056
NOTE that this is still a JellyBean 4.3 ONLY kernel till date
OR
halaszk-UNIVERSAL5420 v0.6A (used in Second Test)
Get it from his thread here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2590320
I recommend v0.6A for Jelly Bean and v0.14B for KitKat or the latest Test for urself
Snapdragon users should try the ones they have too.. I'm sure they have some good kernels,like Perseus kernel but again i have Exynos Note 3 so try it for yourself.
3. Kernel Governor: Download SetCPU (paid) from here - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mhuang.overclocking
Go into SetCPU and change the Governor at the bottom left of the page there to 'on demand', then tick the 'set on boot' option in the middle so it will be applied after everyboot.
What the Governor 'ondemand' does is the CPU ramps up only when you actually need it. Hence the name Which also means that 'even if' you don't get good deep sleep, your CPU will stay at the lowest frequency, Saving you battery!
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IMPORTANT TIPS
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4. Greenify: EVERY rooted user must have Greenify! It's a fantastic app! It hibernates apps that you are not using so they never get to use your battery, yet the apps are available whenever you need them. No stress!
Download Greenify here - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify (I bought the paid version as it has more fuctions)
For those who don't know greenify or how to use it, it's simple! Only Greenify those apps you don't rely on for Push Notifications.
For example, don't greenify apps like WhatsApp, Facebook, Viber, Twitter, BBM if you expect to get notifications from them in the background.
Feel free to Greenify other apps like your games, adobe reader, dictionary, and the rest of them as you don't receive notifications from.
Starting from Greenify v2.0, even None Rooted users will be able to use Greenify Just without the option of Automatic hibernate, however.. It's still Great!
TIP: If you are a Non-Root Greenify user, I will highly recommend that you put the 'Hibernate Now' widget on ur homescreen so that you have one-touch hibernation. Just tap it before you lock ur screen or at anytime really. I'm a Rooted user and I made it a habit already! Tap then lock screen
Greenify is a FANTASTIC app!
5. Power Saving Mode: Use the Power Saving mode for as long as you can, I use Power Saving all the time. What this does is throttle ur CPU down to 1.4GHz (Exynos Note 3),
lower frequency naturally means more battery. The Note 3 is a pretty powerful device, so I even play games on Power Saving mode without issues. But if you feel you need that extra oomph!, then you can put it off before you play your games and turn back on later. For the more advanced users, you can make these more dynamic changes with apps like SetCPU or CPU Tuner.
6. Screen/Brightness: As we all know, normally the screen consumes the most power so if you can manage ur screen properly, u can get some extra juice. My advice on brightness is set to 'Auto -5'. However it is fine to use any other Value from -5 to 5 as you like it. Then you can set to a timeout range of 30s. Try to avoid using live wallpapers as it uses the GPU for the animations also AMOLED screens save more battery when you use dark wallpapers. Do that if you love dark wallpapers
7. GPS/Maps: Now, GPS is like the Number One drainer of battery and many many people don't know this. Here is what you do, pull down your notification bar, long press GPS there then make sure everything under GPS is turned off always! Leave turned off unless you need to use GPS.
Maps is also another app that drains battery in the background, I don't use maps at all, so I keep it frozen all the time using Titanium Backup.
But if you use maps, my advice is that you open up TitaniumBackup, look for maps on the list of apps, long press it and then convert to User app. Now u can Greenify it and it will still be available whenever you need it.
8. Google Now / Google+: Google now does drain battery, if you don't use Google Now, turn it off. Go into Google now, enter settings and turn off. I keep my Google now frozen as I never use it anyways. If I ever need to, I will unfreeze it. If you successfully handle numbers 7 and 8, you will not have issues with Google Services drain anymore! Unless you go traveling alot
Google+ is one app that drains alot of battery, if you do not use it much or don't need it at all, my advice is that you handle it. Greenify it or better still, Get rid of it.
9. Sounds/Vibration: Maybe not really a big deal, but those keypad/touch sounds do drain battery. It's fine to leave them on if you like em, but if you can do without, then do! Especially Haptic Feedback! Settings > Device > Sound. You will get the option there to turn them off. Including keyboard sounds and vibration
10. De-bloat: Samsung always loads alot of bloatware on their phones, the more the bloat, the more the apps running in the backgroud, the more the RAM consumed and in turn, the more the battery used! If you can, go into Titanium Backup and freeze as many bloatware as you are familiar with, don't touch anything you don't know. Lol. I always debloat any ROM I flash, so i'm quite familiar with the process. Anyways, just a heads up! If you freeze 'Magazines' for some reason your Stock Email app will crash whenever you try to open a new email or clear emails from the notification bar. Gmail app will work good, i decided to mention as my main email address is Yahoomail.
11. Reception: Believe it or not, reception is VERY IMPORTANT when it comes to battery life saving. If you have good reception, then it's smooth sailing and good battery, but if your reception isn't good then your phone is always always trying to reconnect your apps and services to the internet, over and over and over again! Trust me, this can take a serious Toll on your battery. If you notice my screenshots below, I have near 'PERFECT' reception. Notice the green Network mobile signal area in Graph. No blemish!
Here is how: Well, since i'm always on WiFi (have a pocket router).. I never need the '3G/HSPA' reception, so I set my phone to GSM/2G Only (Settings > More Networks > Mobile Networks then change Network mode to GSM Only). I'm using Exynos Note 3, so I don't have LTE, but if you are Snapdragon user with LTE, You can set to either just 3G Only as that should still be more stable than 4G/LTE, you can still set as above too, afterall you won't be needing the LTE connection when on WiFi.
All I said right now about Reception was complicated yes?
This App makes it simple - http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/themes-apps/app-intelli3g-2g-3g-4g-toggle-battery-t2580234
Haha!
Finally, I use Nova launcher now as I have frozen Touchwiz launcher. Nova launcher is fast, plus i LOVE me them Stock KitKat icons And I feel Touchwiz Launcher on MJ7 and MK2 does drain battery much.
(DO NOT FREEZE TOUCHWIZ LAUNCHER IF YOU DON'T HAVE A 3RD PARTY LAUNCHER INSTALLED! YOU WERE WARNED!) You will get Force Close unending
Having written all these, I know some of you will want to come on here and crucify me, because you disagree with one thing or another. But the thing is... I'm only trying to help, and this works for me! I only 'HOPE' it will help as many people as possible enjoy their phone even more
Here are screenshots of my Battery Stats, maybe they will convince you to try one or two things out You will notice that BBM still drains a chunk of my battery, but I can't do without BBM And Nova drains less than TW was.
CHEERS GUYS!
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Pretty good post OP. I have already given some of these a shot. I'm unrooted. Rooted my note 2. Still unsure about the 3 as there isn't as much information on it.
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I also think having perfect signal the entire time plays a large effect as well.

jaycb420 said:
Pretty good post OP. I have already given some of these a shot. I'm unrooted. Rooted my note 2. Still unsure about the 3 as there isn't as much information on it.
Sent from my SM-N900W8 using Tapatalk
I also think having perfect signal the entire time plays a large effect as well.
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Yes! Bad signal can actually drain more battery. As applications dat need internet keep trying to reconnect.

I averaged 9hrs 32mins screentime with stock phone Not rooted and no special apps. Wifi the entire time with a Sprint note 3. Its all about your signal. The better quality signal the better battery life you will get. You can flash the latest and greatest roms and kernels but if you have a poor signal you will have poor battery life.

mfknboss said:
I averaged 9hrs 32mins screentime with stock phone Not rooted and no special apps. Wifi the entire time with a Sprint note 3. Its all about your signal. The better quality signal the better battery life you will get. You can flash the latest and greatest roms and kernels but if you have a poor signal you will have poor battery life.
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Actually, battery life depends on sooooo many things, signal, ROM, kernel (in some cases), apps installed, apps running in background, GPS use, screen settings, even down to little details like wallpaper funny enough lol. I believe I can think of a lot of stuff, however! Very true! Poor signal will also drain battery, out of experience I speak.
Afterall, My battery has sat at 100% for 9 whole hours on Airplane mode!

Yes you are right Google now drains a lot..!! I thought it was only me he he.. Even in airplane mode it drains .. Unbelievable.. Last night I just put it on vibrate and it didn't drain anything... last three days it drained 3% in 5 hrs in airplane.
Thanks for your advices man..:thumbup:
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Lonzo_SGS2_506 said:
Yes you are right Google now drains a lot..!! I thought it was only me he he.. Even in airplane mode it drains .. Unbelievable.. Last night I just put it on vibrate and it didn't drain anything... last three days it drained 3% in 5 hrs in airplane.
Thanks for your advices man..:thumbup:
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Cheers mate!

Thanks for a great OP. I'm a battery obsessive so always trying these things out

How do I get the kitkat icons I'm also using nova prime?
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smeddy said:
Thanks for a great OP. I'm a battery obsessive so always trying these things out
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Lol. Thanks mate. I obviously am also!
craigels said:
How do I get the kitkat icons I'm also using nova prime?
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GO into Nova settings, then select Look and Feel. Then Icon Theme. Change from default to Google KitKat. Enjoy!

Why not just buy a new battery when it's wasted?

MSK1 said:
Why not just buy a new battery when it's wasted?
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Battery is not bad, ROM bases are not too good. Mobile data drains A WHOLE lot than WiFi.

Snapdragon
Root
no tweaks / no kernel change
But only 3 hours screen on time
you can also buy yourself a Samsung Note 3 extra battery kit
you can charge that battery in the kit itself.. you'll have 2 batteries with 100%
it only costs 30euro / 41 dollar

Nice little post there!
Some obvious, but some pretty good tips. :good:

Super-Veloce said:
Snapdragon
Root
no tweaks / no kernel change
But only 3 hours screen on time
you can also buy yourself a Samsung Note 3 extra battery kit
you can charge that battery in the kit itself.. you'll have 2 batteries with 100%
it only costs 30euro / 41 dollar
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It seems 'Google Play Services' owns your device and not you! Disable GPS, Google Now and Maps if you don't use it and see that you will get ALOT better battery life
Dan-SRi said:
Nice little post there!
Some obvious, but some pretty good tips. :good:
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Lol. Yes. When I was writing it, i wanted everybody to understand it. Even someone who is using Android for the first time ever!

@stanley08 , I never did a factory reset on a droid b4, so how do I do it, what will I lose & how do I backup, though my concern with backup is I might reload some battery hogging data or settings which would result in waste of time & screwing around with a already set up phone.
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MJ7.
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AeonXS said:
@stanley08 , I never did a factory reset on a droid b4, so how do I do it, what will I lose & how do I backup, though my concern with backup is I might reload some battery hogging data or settings which would result in waste of time & screwing around with a already set up phone.
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This is the Wise thing to do. Do whatever backup you want to do, Titanium Backup, SMS backup, Call logs backup, Nandroid Backup, and any other backup you want to do. Then Create 2 folders on your PC. Name the first one Internal Sd and the Second one External SD.
Then connect phone to pc and open up ur internal sd, highlight all and copy to the folder on ur pc names Internal. Do the same for external sd, but this time... Copy your external sd contents to the other folder you named external sd. That is IF you have/use an external sd. For me, it is pretty convenient to backup my external sd as it is a 16GB one and only about half full at all times.
NOTE: Wipe data/Factory reset in Custom Recovery like CWM will NOT delete your files on the internal sd of your phone. It will only remove your installed apps and reset ur settings...
But wiping from STOCK SAMSUNG recovery will do the above and ALSO wipe your internal sd clean. And that is what is called hard format. Or hard reset or factory reset.
I advice that copying data to your pc should be the LAST thing you do before wiping anything. This way, you will be certain that everything you backed up is safe as they are either on ur Internal sd or external sd. CHEERS!

After reading all battery issues I have refrained from updating my phone. I am still on M900XXUBMI5 should I not update if the update has so much issues?
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Thanks let's see
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[Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here! (Noob friendly)

Welcome to the new Battery Life Help thread.
Please post the recommended screen shots from post 4 when posting here.... Or you will only get guesses as replies... If you get any.
Read the first 4 posts here before posting. You may not even need to post after you have!
If you are on a device other than a Nexus 5, that's fine, but please state that up front.... Or things may get confusing for all of us. ?
I'm not the "technician" of this thread, as there are many knowledgeable members on battery life savings and troubleshooting. Sometimes opinions vary... And that's always how things are...especially on the interwebz. Usually that's a good thing.
All are encouraged to participate!!!!
Most battery issues are non device specific.... Most. And troubleshooting is almost universal. Occasionally there's device specific issues and bugs, but mostly its about basic setup and usage patterns. No matter the device.
So, some guidelines to make finding issues efficient. (A lot of this won't be possible if you are not rooted....so do your best)
1. Please please please.....use Gsam (my favorite) or Better Battery Stats (BBS) or Wakelock Detector when posting screenshots. No one can stop you from posting shots from the stock battery usage screens in settings....but 9 times out of 10 you'll be asked to use one of the above apps....cause the stock screens say to little to be useful finding an issue. Just install one of the apps. Use it until your issue is solved...then get rid of it if you wish. Tho really, they are great tools to have, and NO, they don't consume heavy amounts of battery life. At all.
2. No screenshots will probably get you no useful help. As any attempt to assist you would just be guesses and generic tips.
3. As of Kit Kat, you either need an xposed module found Here or if you use Gsam, also install Gsam Root Companion. Both found on Play Store. Without any of those, you can't see wakelocks in Kit Kat.
4. Here are the standard screenshots that will get you the quickest help. In Gsam anyway....or the equivalent screens in the other apps.
For Gsam, you should post....
- The main screen.
- App sucker screen.
(In app sucker, click the drop down for the rest...)
- Times waking device.
- Time held Awake.
- Kernel wakelocks.
Yes, that is 5 screenshots. A lot I know. But together those will give almost all the info needed to help you. Usually.
5. Obviously, above your screenshots, post your issue in as much detail as possible. Like your setup (location on or off... Gnow on or off...screen settings...signal strength on Data especially... And anything else you feel may matter) and your usage. Gaming? Navigation? Etc.
All of the above will lead to much quicker help, without the need for people trying to help having to ask you a bunch of questions.
Be patient!! Some battery issues are very hard to lock down.....but 95.6 percent of them can eventually be solved. And remember....usage plays a big part! You may be stuck with 3 hours screen on time because of your usage. Sorry. Games for example. And a really poor signal strength while on data is a battery death march.

Tips for better Battery Life
These tips are going to be a collection of all I know, as well as contributions from you guys over time...that I will add in. Unless of course I completely disagree. Lol. (I.E. Task killers, Juice Defender type apps....etc)
First thing is first, since it seems to cause the most problems......and so many can't live without it. Lol. Location Services.
Location Services
Location Services is so very poorly implemented in Android, its almost absurd. The service itself isn't so much to blame for battery issues, but its weakness to getting exploited by other apps. Social apps being the worst offenders. Its also very hard to pin down the offending apps. Yes, many have no issue with location services. They're the lucky ones. Sooooo many do lose a tonne of battery life to it tho, usually by excessive wakes caused by apps accessing it.
So, my first piece of advice. TURN IT OFF! Use your toggles. On when needed, off when done. It doesn't take long, its a couple clicks. Guaranteed you see FAR greater battery life because of it.
If you must use it....just must.....know that Batter Saver is NOT the most battery friendly setting. Device only is. (GPS only). Don't know why, talk to Google for an explanation. Signal strength for data I bet. And of course, high accuracy will drop your battery the quickest.
Location history reporting. Battery killer.
Android Device Manager. Found in Google settings app. "Remotely locate this device", battery killer. Neat feature....but will cost you battery time. And the other option, "remote lock and erase"....surely takes its share of the battery pie also.
So, device only is your best bet, but not so great indoors. Probably won't find the satellites. But it will be far better on your Juice. One way to use location on and help stop apps from abusing it, is Grrenifying the apps that use it, or using app ops or its equivalent to change app permissions and disallow them location permission.
K, I bashed on location enough. But it is the number one item in most issues I see.
Signal Strength
A weak signal is about the quickest drain a phone can have. If your signal is very weak and spending time out of service and scanning for a signal.....your battery can literally drop like a rock. The worst part, Gsam and similar apps don't really indicate the signal, radio or anything else is draining your battery. I'm not sure why these apps can't report the loss from signal, but I guess its just not possible.
Very hard to "fix" this issue.
- Your first option, get on WiFi. Its not really the text and phone part of the radio draining you, its data. If your signal is poor or non existent and apps are trying to sync over data.....the phone is working overtime trying to transfer the data. Getting on WiFi will fix this. Even with poor signal strength on the radio.
- Next option, toggle off data in poor coverage. No, your social apps and what not won't work. But you'll still get texts and calls. When you have a signal. This will dramatically slow the battery drain.
- Last option. Airplane mode. Yes, you will be completely cut off from the world. But your battery will barely drop.....assuming you have no issues and your standby drain is good.
Of course, combine poor signal with location services on high accuracy or battery savings....with data on....and you will be charging by lunch time or have a dead phone.
Roms and Kernels
I won't say much about this. There's those who will agree with me and those that always ask "what's the best ROM/kernel for battery life?". MOST experienced users will agree....ROM/kernel combos will make minor differences occasionally. Its all about setup and usage.....and signal strength.
I always say.....I could run any ROM or kernel (and I almost have) and will still get 24 hours plus with 6 hours SoT consistently, with my lean setup and low CPU demand usage. Guaranteed. Now, if you want me to prove it.....I wanna be paid for my time. And I'm not cheap.
Kernel tweaking, such as under volting/clocking, may gain you small battery life returns at best. And also possible lag and instability. Lots will disagree with me here. But thoroughly test it out yourself and see. ��
But to each their own I always say. Personally, I can't remember the last time I changed any kernel settings from whatever one I'm running. I just don't see the point. Fun and experimentation perhaps.....but big battery savings.....not gonna happen.
Last kernel thing......double tap to wake, even with the timeouts it has now.....lots of battery drain.
Greenify
I use it. Some don't. I use it on anything I know is going to run when it feels like and possibly steal my battery juice or cause any issues. One app I've always greenified is Maps. If it comes with the ROM, I convert it to a user app with titanium backup and then Greenify it. Games, any I ever have, greenified. I don't need or want to know my farm is ready to harvest. Lol. I'll find out when I open the game.
Use at your discretion. I wouldn't Greenify anything I use often, like dolphin or Tapatalk.....it'll just use more juice constantly loading them into memory. Social also won't sync if greenified. And be very careful greenifying system apps. That can cause you issues for sure.
Greenify tip from @Lethargy:
The paid version of Greenify let's you choose an option for Greenified apps called GSM push, when used with Xposed and the Greenify module activated. It allows you to still receive push notifications from hibernated apps. So you can Greenify those social apps that like to spam location services and burn data when your not even using them....and they will be awoken when you get a push notification. Will help with the drain from these apps better than doing nothing with them for sure! . A happy middle between always running and totally hibernated.
Screen Brightness
I think we all know a bright screen will cost you lots of juice. Out in the sun, there's not much we can do about it. I go back and forth sometimes. If I'm outside all day, I just usually put on auto brightness. But, nothing will help you save juice more than setting it manually. Someone not long ago mentioned an app called "Display Brightness ". Its free, and puts a very customizable slider anywhere around the edge of your screen that you want it. It gives you a quick access slider on your screen and its always there no matter what app you're in. You can change its size, location, color, transparency... Etc. Great little app.
Anyway.....if you keep the screen as dim as is comfortable for you, you'll get big gains in battery time.
I'm not convinced about LUX and its equivalents.... But many swear by them. Definitely something to look at too.
Tasker
I know little of tasker, I've never really got into it much. I did pay for it....and can't say when I last used it. Lol
You can do amazing things with it....to automate much of the things I've mentioned. A great tool for sure!!!
I've just never minded using toggles myself.
A few Quick Ones
- The more vibrating your phone does, the more juice it will drink.
- Games. We all know they kill the battery fast. Nuff said. . (Keep the screen dim)
- Social apps and other things that sync....the more you have, the more your battery time decreases. Especially picture heavy ones, like Facebook. It takes data transfer and CPU time to load all those images. Also, some wake your device a crazy amount of times to keep you up to date with your friends. (See Post Number 3 for help on controlling these and much more!!!!)
- Task killers. Guaranteed they waste more battery than they claim they'll save. Opening apps over and over is far worse on the battery than them sitting in memory idle. (In most cases. Greenify the exceptions). Android RAM is meant to be used. Too much free RAM is not helping, its wasted RAM.
- Juice Defender and other battery saver apps. Most will agree, some may not....but again, waste more juice than they save. For a moderate to heavy user, setup juice defender and look at your times held awake later. It can easily get over 2000 wakes per day.
Now...for a very light user.....very light....like you barely touch your phone all day....then Juice Defender may actually help you. But only the very light user.
Summary
Not all of these things are for everyone....but with each piece of advice you take, you'll save a little more juice.
Is my phone no longer a smartphone? Many have said that. Lol. Well guess what....in a few clicks, my phones intelligence can skyrocket. I just don't need things running 24/7 when I don't need them....or never use them.
So, here is a quick checklist of what I personally do after I install any ROM. And again, my battery life is as good as most I've seen. I'm just sharing this, not suggesting everyone do it. And also, all of our needs, usage and apps we use vary.....so there's no way to all have the exact same setup. Or the same battery times!!
After every install:
- I go into accounts/Google. Unchecked the things I don't want to sync. Usually I only have gmail, calendar and contacts checked.
- I turn location to device only, location history reporting is usually off for me by default, so I don't need to remember when I actually use it, then I turn it off completely.
- I go into Google settings app. In android device manager, they are both unchecked. Google Now is off. In ads, I check opt out of customizable ads. Location is already off.
- Sound settings. I uncheck all the options at bottom. No click sound, no vibrate on touch...etc. ( my keyboard makes no sound or vibration either). My phone only vibrates if I set it to vibrate. Otherwise it never vibrates on calls or notifications.
- I change a few cosmetics. (No battery impact here)
- I download titanium backup and restore my apps. Only user apps, and only data on the ones I don't want to setup again.
- change my wallpaper black. Not sure on an N5 if it helps battery life whatsoever.....its just my visual preference.
- Go into titanium backup and freeze, NOT uninstall...everything I never use.
- reboot.
- I Greenify all the apps I usually Greenify.
- Nova gets data restored, so not much to usually setup there. Its just how I had it.
- Restore the only widget I use. An agenda widget.
- Start LMT, Gsam, Display Brightness app and light flow...on some ROMs. The ones that have customizable notification LEDs by default, i don't use light flow. All of these get restored with data, so no setting up preferences required. Kii keyboard as well. And I disable the Nav keys.
Well, that's my setup routine. Again, to each their own. Just sharing my way. ��
That's all I have for now. Formatting (and spell and grammer check) will be tweaked to be easier to read in days to come. So no need to comment on my many mistakes. Lol. Plus additions I think are helpful from the community will be added. Along with credit, unless you don't want it.
Just whipped this up quick to help those that want it. I'll make it prettier soon. Promise!!
Good luck! ��

Managing syncs and services with "Disable Service"
Google Services drain? Syncs magically re-enabling themselves? Useless social app syncs?
Google apps and various social media apps use syncs. They'll put themselves under the "Accounts" section in Settings if they have any. At first the concept sounds fine, but the thing is, most of them are useless, abusively used and just waste your battery. Sync services cause wakelocks as they can't run while in deep sleep. Multiple syncs active causes dispersed wakeups, draining even more battery. Syncs also (for some unknown reason) sometimes re-enable themselves when you've unchecked them previously! Greenifying Google Play Services isn't a good idea since it'll constantly kill and automatically restart the services, which probably does more harm than good. It can also cause issues and break things, so what can you do about it?
There is a solution, use the app "Disable Service", found here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
True to it's name, it allows you to selectively disable services for apps, completely preventing them from being used, as if they didn't exist:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
As you can see above, I only have a Sync for Gmail, it's the only one I have a use for and the others are completely disabled, not just unticked (they sometimes re-tick themselves..).
[Note: "* Google Play Services" is a hidden sync that's for Google Account settings, I can see it because I'm using the Greenify Donation Package along with Xposed, the feature called "Reveal Hidden Sync". Its integrated into the core of Google Play Services so you can't disable it completely without causing issues (unticking is fine). It doesn't cause any wakes anyways since it's only active for a moment when you manually change account settings in Google Settings (i.e. device is awake anyways and it's not like you're always changing the settings).]
Now Google Play Services, various Google apps and social media apps have a lot of services. How do we tell which ones to disable?
They have "Sync" in the name and begin with what they're syncing.
For example:
Under Google Play Services, PeopleSyncService is the sync for "People" under your Google account.
Under Google+, AutoBackupSyncService is the Auto Backup sync for Photos.
Simply uncheck the boxes to disable a service:
If you're unsure which sync is which, the best way to tell is going to the sync page (In Settings > Account, see the first screenshot of this post), then opening Disable Service, disable a service and see which sync disappears. Re-enable it if it turns out to be a sync you rely on. If you're not 100% sure what a service is for, feel free to mention me in this thread, I'll provide an answer if I know what is is.
Social media apps also use syncs for purposes such as "find your friends", "contacts sync" and "photo album sync". Useful for some, but not everyone. They also use syncs to "refresh" automatically while you're not looking at them. There isn't really any need for that.. I mean, it'll refresh posts when you open up the app again and your notifications are pushed to your device anyways, right?
Waste of battery. You can disable all these too with no issues. Extremely helpful if you have a bunch of social media apps which nag you for syncs.
Also keep in mind that Google apps put all their syncs under the Google account and you'll have to go their respective apps to disable them (usually with "Adapter" in its name, but not always). For example, the Google+ and Google Chrome syncs get merged under your Google account.
If you also have the Greenify Donation Package and Xposed Framework, you can enable "Wakeup Timer Coalescing". This feature causes your syncs to all sync at the same time, rather than leaving them to sync whenever they want. It'll save a bit of battery because it'll only need to wake once rather than multiple times. Useful if you still rely on a few actually useful syncs such as Gmail.
The Disable Service app is also useful for disabling useless services which other apps tend to activate even if they're not being used. One example is YouTube. It wakes up screen cast services even if they're not being used, which subsequently wakes up Google Play Services. If you never use screen casting, you can disable it so it won't wake Play Services pointlessly whenever you open YouTube. Examples of some other services you can disable if you don't use them are Wearable Services, Play Games, Analytics. Don't disable any services with "Gcm", "gtalk" or "push" in them or you risk missing notifications from apps which use GCM cloud to push notifications to your device.
If you never use location you can also disable everything with "geo" or "location" in it, so it'll be completely disabled. No more location wakelocks. Ever.
Do keep in mind that disabling some could render an app useless if it legitimately needs to use it.
Titanium Backup won't work on Disable Service as it doesn't actually store any data itself and disables it in the system ("pm disable"). The "cut off wakeup path" feature of Greenify Donation Package + Xposed does the same thing, but (as far as I know) temporarily as it stores it in Greenify's data, and you can only disable them once they come up, not selectively.
Luckily, Disable Service has a hidden backup/restore function which you'll probably miss. Its in Overflow Menu > About. Helpful when flashing new ROMs/clean flashing. Puts DS_backup.txt on your Internal Storage.
For a general idea of what most of us have disabled without issues, I've dumped screenshots of what I personally have disabled. Please note that not everyone's would be the same, and some people may still need specific services to be enabled. Here: http://imgur.com/a/YyPtT
Blocking the wakelock permission on Play Services isn't a bad idea either, see my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54516634&postcount=332
If you're a user of location but you don't want the services to always be active when you don't need them (e.g. you only need them for driving/maps), you can use Tasker to enable and disable them. Create a new task, add action: Script > Run Shell. The command is "pm disable package.name/package.name.service".
e.g. for disabling AnalyticsService:
Code:
pm disable com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.analytics.service.AnalyticsService
Make sure to check "Use Root". To enable a service you use pm enable instead of pm disable, of course. Try not to toggle them too much (e.g. enable/disable if Google Maps is open or not), as it'll probably cause a lot of lag. Manual toggles are probably best.
Enjoy your device without the annoyance of Play Services wakelocks/syncs:
(13% left, might've made it to 2 days with 7 hours SOT but I was tired so put it on the charger)
For those who want to disable OTA services (and it's possible wakelocks) PROPERLY:
Elluel said:
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gms/.update.SystemUpdateService
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gms/.update.SystemUpdateService$ActiveReceiver
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gms/.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gms/.update.SystemUpdateService$SecretCodeReceiver
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gsf/.update.SystemUpdateActivity
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gsf/.update.SystemUpdatePanoActivity
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gsf/.update.SystemUpdateService
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gsf/.update.SystemUpdateService$Receiver
adb shell su -c pm disable com.google.android.gsf/.update.SystemUpdateService$SecretCodeReceiver
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(you can also just "su" then "pm disable com.whatever" via a Terminal app)

How to analyze and improve your idle battery drain
If you need help to analyze your battery life, please use BetterBatteryStats to report logs.
1. Charge your phone to 100% then unplug it.
2. Leave your phone idle for at least 7 hours (do not touch the screen)
3. Open BBS and make sure that the start reference is "Unplugged" and the stop reference is "Current" or "Screen on"
4. Hit the Share button, select "Text Dumpfile" and save. The file is stored in the root of your sdcard.
5. Attach it in this thread
Note: Make sure that "Enable while charging" is NOT checked in BBS > Settings > Advanced
Any other information and screenshots about your usage pattern might help.
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Gsam has a lot of easy to follow info available, if you have root companion as well, and know where to look. Many battery issues will show their faces in these screens somewhere. Many, not all.
Please go from 100% to 10 or 15 percent battery left before taking screen shots.....for an accurate idea what's going on.
Here are samples of the important Screenshots from Gsam. Include these in your post and other members will quickly get an idea of what's happening. Hopefully. (not all issues are easy to find)
These are from Gsam with Gsam Root Companion also installed. Without Root Companion, or if you are not rooted....you won't have all these available. So do what you can.
Main Screen
App Sucker Screen
Number of Times Waking Device (in App Sucker drop down)
Time Held Awake (in App Sucker drop down)
Kernel Wakelocks (in App Sucker drop down)
Also, if you have a weak signal a lot...maybe include Phone Radio screen
If your using Auto Brightness especially, the Screen screen can say a lot
And from the systems settings menu, under battery. Click on the graph for a more detailed graph....(tho really not necessary if you posted the first 5 above....and Radio screen if you think your signal is weak)
That's about it, from Gsam anyway.

I know we have a battery thread with 3000 posts....but its cluttered now, as all threads get eventually. Its in General, not Q&A, where troubleshooting is usually found. And its title is Nexus 5 battery results....designed to share times, more so than fix issues. It just became the go to issue place.
Time for a more new member friendly thread that stands out.

Reserved. For moi'

Good idea for the thread. It might also be helpful if you detailed your usage. Of course, people's usage should be what works for them and even if someone emulated your usage they will most likely get slightly different results. However, having said that I think a lot of people will ask for it anyway. I am curious myself as well of course =]

PsychDrummer said:
Good idea for the thread. It might also be helpful if you detailed your usage. Of course, people's usage should be what works for them and even if someone emulated your usage they will most likely get slightly different results. However, having said that I think a lot of people will ask for it anyway. I am curious myself as well of course =]
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I'll be putting my setup, and general tips in post 2 when I get some time.
My setup is simple really, turn all the frills off. Toggle them when needed. Screen dimmer, and manually adjusted. Greenify anything that can hurt battery life. I don't usually game... I have an N7 for that. I mostly use the browser, Tapatalk...and text. Yes, boring, I know. Lol
And try not to be running data in poor signal coverage areas. That's number one! Use WiFi, or turn off data and use it only when needed. Texts and calls still work with data off.
My setup definitely isn't for everyone....but decent battery life should still be obtainable with a more robust setup. Its all priority. Give up some things, gain more time. Keep some things, lose some time. And definitely squash any abnormal issues. I've ran just about every ROM out there, and always got similar battery life...setup the same on all of them of course.
And I hope others will see what I put and add to it anything I missed.
As I said, this isn't MY thread to oversee.....its just hopefully going to be a more efficient place for help. Assuming the appropriate screenshots accompany the posts. ?
It will be simplistic, nothing fancy. I'm not much into kernel tweaks and what not, not for the small amount of battery life they can add.
The purpose of the thread is for people to post issues, and for people to help solve them.
My tips won't be new to most, just gathered in an easy to find location....especially to help newer folks.

Oh....and the answer to the majority of battery issues......Location Services. Lol
Not location services alone perhaps....but it and the apps using it combined.
Thank Google. They just can't seem to get location services right.
Want significantly better better battery life immediately? Turn it off. Yes, off. Toggle it when needed (2 screen touches usually....a swipe and a click). And toggle it off when done.
Best tip there is. Yes, a sacrifice to some....but usually, great results.

KJ said:
Oh....and the answer to the majority of battery issues......Location Services. Lol
Not location services alone perhaps....but it and the apps using it combined.
Thank Google. They just can't seem to get location services right.
Want significantly better better battery life immediately? Turn it off. Yes, off. Toggle it when needed (2 screen touches usually....a swipe and a click). And toggle it off when done.
Best tip there is. Yes, a sacrifice to some....but usually, great results.
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So freaking true. I've set up my rom's tile to toggle between High Accuracy and Off. When I need maps or location, I hit the toggle and once I'm done, hit it again :cyclops:

Looking good
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Just going to put this out there - if you put your brightness on the lowest settings and your device isn't awake too much while the screen is off (i.e. wake locks managed, Greenify/ROM's wake lock blocker), average screen on time should be 4-6 hours EASILY. Everything else is has minimal impact (apart from listening to music with the screen off, which would be keeping your device awake, nothing you can do about that.).
There is NO magic setup that will give you phenomenal battery life - short of a battery case but that doesn't count.
This is 4 and a half hours of continuous use, almost always SoT (4 hours 15 mins SoT). Just browsing forums on Tapatalk while listening to music. Still have a quarter left of my battery:
Sent from my Nexus 5

Lethargy said:
Just going to put this out there - if you put your brightness on the lowest settings and your device isn't awake too much while the screen is off (i.e. wake locks managed, Greenify/ROM's wake lock blocker), average screen on time should be 4-6 hours EASILY. Everything else is has minimal impact (apart from listening to music with the screen off, which would be keeping your device awake, nothing you can do about that.).
There is NO magic setup that will give you phenomenal battery life - short of a battery case but that doesn't count.
This is 4 and a half hours of continuous use, almost always SoT (4 hours 15 mins SoT). Just browsing forums on Tapatalk while listening to music. Still have a quarter left of my battery:
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Agreed. ?
No, there's no "magic" setup, but 3 hours average to 6 hours average screen time is a huge difference. And setup, usage and signal strength all play a role. The more features off....the longer you'll go. Yes, screen is huge....but things like location services (along with a bunch of social apps) gnow, android device manager...and certain apps can also make a huge difference.

KJ said:
Agreed. ?
No, there's no "magic" setup, but 3 hours average to 6 hours average screen time is a huge difference. And setup, usage and signal strength all play a role. The more features off....the longer you'll go. Yes, screen is huge....but things like location services (along with a bunch of social apps) gnow, android device manager...and certain apps can also make a huge difference.
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Agree 100%, but by "setup" I meant ROM, kernel, etc. I hate it when people claim that a certain kernel or ROM would give you better battery life - we know otherwise. To some extent maybe, but its only a minor impact compared to other factors that may influence your battery life.
But yes, setup in the form of apps and whatnot could impact battery life but really that's just down to your own usage and management. I have a bunch of social apps on my device but I have them managed properly with Greenify and whatnot. My battery life is fine.
In the end the only real excuse is signal strength. But I guess that's what this thread is for - to help people with the other factors.
And yeah, always nuke location. Its useless and just wants your battery.
Sent from my Nexus 5

The guys saying "my battery sucks", yet have every single feature on, auto brightness, 6 different social apps...etc...etc....are the ones who don't know these things. And they have 3 hours SoT. Well....that's about right. Lol.
So hopefully with tips on what to cut out....they can pick and choose what the can live without. And times will increase with each cut or change.

KJ said:
The guys saying "my battery sucks", yet have every single feature on, auto brightness, 6 different social apps...etc...etc....are the ones who don't know these things. And they have 3 hours SoT. Well....that's about right. Lol.
So hopefully with tips on what to cut out....they can pick and choose what the can live without. And times will increase with each cut or change.
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You should add it to the OP along with mentioning that a ROM or kernel will hardly make your battery life any better.
And I just hit 5 hours SoT with 15% battery left. I'm doing this just to see how much SoT I would get since I don't drain my battery down very often - and my device is asleep 99.99% of the time the screen is off (with the exception of music lol) - its just good management.
Also, I do have autobrightness enabled - but since I'm on a custom ROM I've changed the brightness levels really, really low, stock values are horrible i.e. battery drainer.
Sent from my Nexus 5

Lethargy said:
You should add it to the OP along with mentioning that a ROM or kernel will hardly make your battery life any better.
And I just hit 5 hours SoT with 15% battery left. I'm doing this just to see how much SoT I would get since I don't drain my battery down very often - and my device is asleep 99.99% of the time the screen is off (with the exception of music lol) - its just good management.
Also, I do have autobrightness enabled - but since I'm on a custom ROM I've changed the brightness levels really, really low, stock values are horrible i.e. battery drainer.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Awesome!!
Post 2 will have all the tips I can think of, no matter how harsh...Lol. As well as tips others contribute. Like yours!
Probably won't get to it til the weekend.

This is not a good battery cycle.

unsivil_audio said:
This is not a good battery cycle.
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Seems pretty good to me??

Its on the borderline of acceptable to me. Location set to device, no GN. I can't tell if FB is a killer or not. I mean my wakelocks are under control (40 mins of that is listening to music). My battery life really seems to vary by the day with virtually no setup changes. I'm going back to location off today. We'll see if it helps.
v----This on the other hand was awesome...

Battery Drain?

Here are some of my GSAM stats on this Imgur link. I am worried I am dealing with lousy battery life and have to charge my phone once a day mid-day to get anything done. I was expecting 5-6 SOT and decent stand by battery life with Doze. Even with Airplane Mode and Wi-Fi, my phone's battery life drains a bit too. I did a cache wipe and dalvik cache wipe too.
I have the July Patch with stock T-Mobile software: Baseband G930TUVU3APG1
https://imgur.com/a/z11jw
Do I need to do a factory data reset of some sorts? Or wait for a new update, even though T-Mobile is taking their merry ole time with the August patch?

I had really bad, terrible battery life when i first got this week couple weeks back until i looked into it.
First i installed root on the phone, and started to uninstall unnecessary programs and bloatware that came with the phone. If you decide to install root, PLEASE follow the instructions to a point. I forgot to disable manual security updates and one week later, ran into the famous bootloop and had to start all over. Oh well, lesson learned and i learned
After i uninstalled several programs, i still noticed that i had better battery life but not great. I thought maybe it was my old house the reception "pinging" was the cause of it. After searching around, i was told to install "Wakelock Detector" App from the Play Store.
What this App does is that it will tell you which app that are installed on your phone, are causing to "wakeup" your device either by pinging out, or waking up the screen or whatever. After running the program and after a day of it surveying my phone, it found several programs being the cause. Mainly my email App. It was waking up the device, something like 43 times a day. After looking around the settings of the App, i had it setup to check for emails every 5 minutes. After adjusting several other programs, battery life is great.
Just today, i took my phone off the charger at 9am and here it is 10:43pm and my battery is sitting at 55% battery with medium use today.
Also look into system settings such as Account sync options, wifi searching and whatnot.
Hope this helps. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask away. I love to help out

Eighthourblink said:
I had really bad, terrible battery life when i first got this week couple weeks back until i looked into it.
First i installed root on the phone, and started to uninstall unnecessary programs and bloatware that came with the phone. If you decide to install root, PLEASE follow the instructions to a point. I forgot to disable manual security updates and one week later, ran into the famous bootloop and had to start all over. Oh well, lesson learned and i learned
After i uninstalled several programs, i still noticed that i had better battery life but not great. I thought maybe it was my old house the reception "pinging" was the cause of it. After searching around, i was told to install "Wakelock Detector" App from the Play Store.
What this App does is that it will tell you which app that are installed on your phone, are causing to "wakeup" your device either by pinging out, or waking up the screen or whatever. After running the program and after a day of it surveying my phone, it found several programs being the cause. Mainly my email App. It was waking up the device, something like 43 times a day. After looking around the settings of the App, i had it setup to check for emails every 5 minutes. After adjusting several other programs, battery life is great.
Just today, i took my phone off the charger at 9am and here it is 10:43pm and my battery is sitting at 55% battery with medium use today.
Also look into system settings such as Account sync options, wifi searching and whatnot.
Hope this helps. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask away. I love to help out
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Thanks, but what if I don't want to root whatsoever? I just want to keep stock for now. I heard the July update is causing battery issues for tons of folks?

nviz22 said:
Thanks, but what if I don't want to root whatsoever? I just want to keep stock for now. I heard the July update is causing battery issues for tons of folks?
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You could always use Debloater 3.90 to disable certain apps from running. Although this wont unistalled the apps nor will it free up any space, it will prevent them from running.
Did you check into the settings that I mentioned within the System settings or download Wakelock Detector? This will help you figure out and pin point the issue.
#rooton

Eighthourblink said:
You could always use Debloater 3.90 to disable certain apps from running. Although this wont unistalled the apps nor will it free up any space, it will prevent them from running.
Did you check into the settings that I mentioned within the System settings or download Wakelock Detector? This will help you figure out and pin point the issue.
#rooton
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I tried a few times in the past, but I always end up disabling stuff and it causes a headache. I only want to disable stuff like DT Ignite and T-Mobile anyways. I'll play with the settings. Didn't download the wake lock detector since it said root was better.

nviz22 said:
I tried a few times in the past, but I always end up disabling stuff and it causes a headache. I only want to disable stuff like DT Ignite and T-Mobile anyways. I'll play with the settings. Didn't download the wake lock detector since it said root was better.
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Two good guides from the main Samsung S7 are located here :
Debloater - Safe Apps to Disable
Battery Life Discussion
Although i wouldn't disable all the apps that the thread suggests, i did use it as a guide. Most of Tmobile and useless Apps are safe to delete.
There is a way to run WakeLock Detector without root but you have to be familiar running command prompts / ADB lines. I can walk you through it if you are interested. Not too complicated, but can be if you have never did it before.
#rooton

Eighthourblink said:
Two good guides from the main Samsung S7 are located here :
Debloater - Safe Apps to Disable
Battery Life Discussion
Although i wouldn't disable all the apps that the thread suggests, i did use it as a guide. Most of Tmobile and useless Apps are safe to delete.
There is a way to run WakeLock Detector without root but you have to be familiar running command prompts / ADB lines. I can walk you through it if you are interested. Not too complicated, but can be if you have never did it before.
#rooton
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I'll try those. Thanks.

Smart Manger was causing a huge drain for me. I disabled it with Package Disabler and drain was gone.
Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

How To Make Your Battery Life Better, And Why Does Your Battery Life Suck?

Hey guys! Posted this on Reddit, and many people loved my guide and explanations, SO Posting this here and hope this helps everyone with issues about the battery etc.
After a few days of testing these are my tips to you guys, AND my experience how I got atleast better battery life to some extinct.
Now to the basic charging tip as some, and some not know. Charging between 30% to 80/90% is smart. Wears the battery much less than 0 to 100% for instance. Read this up further if you need, not gonna talk about this forever.
To the Nokia battery part. So first of all MANY users have reported Adaptive battery and auto-brightness are bugged and drains more than they should. Well this is true. DO NOT use adaptive battery if you experience bad battery life, and especially not auto-brightness. Why am I saying do not use it? Simple. It does the opposite, so is reported many others. I tested this carefully when sleeping to test the idle drain just by having the Android system installed and a few apps. I got a drain of around 10 to 13% through only 9 hours of sleeping. This is bad. However when adaptive battery turned off, no apps restricted I tested for many days and ended up with only a drain of 2 to 4% through those 9 hours. Will it help you? I dunno, but worked for many.
EVENWELL APPS. Usually bloatware. Only few apps from evenwell is needed for the OS to work. The powersaving g3 package from evenwell, which is a third party that Nokia has done some kind of deal with. The powersaving was suppose to help, but instead made things worse. Making alarms useless etc etc that has been mentioned on the forum. It kills apps even wehn whitelisted or when the phone was locked for a while.
Hook up the nokia on your pc and use adb. Uninstall this package, and almost all evenwell packages installed. Atleast powersaving g3 package, as it's known to drain. Most are bloatware, however you need to be careful not to delete the wrong packages, as they can only be restored by factory reset. Which packages to uninstall depends on your needs. Please remember to check on xda to find a guide on this, if not I will find it for you. This can help a lot just by using some of your time to remove stuff you might not need.
Turn off the aggressive 4g switch in developer settings. It will set 4g to always active, and you are better off just having it off. Should be called something like "Mobile data always active".
You got facebook? Well many has reported that facebook drains a lot, as it uses many services to communicate with the phone. I usually just use dolphin browser and have facebook logged in
Now for me I have these settings mentioned above, and I use my phone a lot, I get around 2 to 2,5 days of use of the phone just by doing these things. Uninstalling many evenwell packages helped a lot too. If none of these tips help you, then deleting caches can help. If not backup and factory reset the phone. If that does not work too, then it could just be the Pie updates being drainy for you. Hope this helps anyone ! Ask me if any questions!
Question: When turning off adaptive battery it keeps turning on after a while. Answer: have atleast 1 app restricted and adaptive battery on. From there turn it off and let the 1 app stay restricted (it really isn't). Now it should hopefully stay off.

Thanks for tips.
I have a request for you. Could you make a list of evenwell apps which are 100% safe to uninstall from N7+?

zax880 said:
Thanks for tips.
I have a request for you. Could you make a list of evenwell apps which are 100% safe to uninstall from N7+?
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No problem I actually have a guide i followed both explaining what you can and what you must NOT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/nokia-2-apps-safe-to-delete-t3783158
it is for nokia 2 it says but its so to say the same for nokia 7 plus. Have a look, and let me know if issues!

I could't find 4G aggressive switch in developer settings

Emad tober said:
I could't find 4G aggressive switch in developer settings
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nexus723 said:
Hey guys! Posted this on Reddit, and many people loved my guide and explanations, SO Posting this here and hope this helps everyone with issues about the battery etc.
After a few days of testing these are my tips to you guys, AND my experience how I got atleast better battery life to some extinct.
Now to the basic charging tip as some, and some not know. Charging between 30% to 80/90% is smart. Wears the battery much less than 0 to 100% for instance. Read this up further if you need, not gonna talk about this forever.
To the Nokia battery part. So first of all MANY users have reported Adaptive battery and auto-brightness are bugged and drains more than they should. Well this is true. DO NOT use adaptive battery if you experience bad battery life, and especially not auto-brightness. Why am I saying do not use it? Simple. It does the opposite, so is reported many others. I tested this carefully when sleeping to test the idle drain just by having the Android system installed and a few apps. I got a drain of around 10 to 13% through only 9 hours of sleeping. This is bad. However when adaptive battery turned off, no apps restricted I tested for many days and ended up with only a drain of 2 to 4% through those 9 hours. Will it help you? I dunno, but worked for many.
EVENWELL APPS. Usually bloatware. Only few apps from evenwell is needed for the OS to work. The powersaving g3 package from evenwell, which is a third party that Nokia has done some kind of deal with. The powersaving was suppose to help, but instead made things worse. Making alarms useless etc etc that has been mentioned on the forum. It kills apps even wehn whitelisted or when the phone was locked for a while.
Hook up the nokia on your pc and use adb. Uninstall this package, and almost all evenwell packages installed. Atleast powersaving g3 package, as it's known to drain. Most are bloatware, however you need to be careful not to delete the wrong packages, as they can only be restored by factory reset. Which packages to uninstall depends on your needs. Please remember to check on xda to find a guide on this, if not I will find it for you. This can help a lot just by using some of your time to remove stuff you might not need.
Turn off the aggressive 4g switch in developer settings. It will set 4g to always active, and you are better off just having it off. Should be called something like "Mobile data always active".
You got facebook? Well many has reported that facebook drains a lot, as it uses many services to communicate with the phone. I usually just use dolphin browser and have facebook logged in
Now for me I have these settings mentioned above, and I use my phone a lot, I get around 2 to 2,5 days of use of the phone just by doing these things. Uninstalling many evenwell packages helped a lot too. If none of these tips help you, then deleting caches can help. If not backup and factory reset the phone. If that does not work too, then it could just be the Pie updates being drainy for you. Hope this helps anyone ! Ask me if any questions!
Question: When turning off adaptive battery it keeps turning on after a while. Answer: have atleast 1 app restricted and adaptive battery on. From there turn it off and let the 1 app stay restricted (it really isn't). Now it should hopefully stay off.
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Thanks for your effort to put this together.
I am not sure about Evenwell apps and I'll explain why:
- I did not uninstalled or blocked Evenwell app. What I did was to turn off battery saver (maybe it's the same thing?) And that improved battery life a lot.
- I am getting 2.5 - 3 days battery use for a full charge (100% charge - did this with every phone I had, never had an issue with battery).
- I do not have issues with alarms, fitness tracking, notifications, etc.
- I agree with disabling 4g always on - that helps a lot
- definitely agree with Facebook.
- adaptive battery is still on.
I am on Pie, December patch.

trveller72 said:
Thanks for your effort to put this together.
I am not sure about Evenwell apps and I'll explain why:
- I did not uninstalled or blocked Evenwell app. What I did was to turn off battery saver (maybe it's the same thing?) And that improved battery life a lot.
- I am getting 2.5 - 3 days battery use for a full charge (100% charge - did this with every phone I had, never had an issue with battery).
- I do not have issues with alarms, fitness tracking, notifications, etc.
- I agree with disabling 4g always on - that helps a lot
- definitely agree with Facebook.
- adaptive battery is still on.
I am on Pie, December patch.
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And a screenshot for battery saver

Thanks i actually thought that the Android One meant a debloated system. So i never even cared about checking the system apps. Well now my phone is debloated! Almost as many ****ty apps that Samsung has.
It runs much smoother in the UI too.
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Whats that unaccounted apps are, telewell apps?

And it tooks more than screen on does...

nexus723 said:
You got facebook? Well many has reported that facebook drains a lot, as it uses many services to communicate with the phone. I usually just use dolphin browser and have facebook logged in.
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I'm using Maki

Guide to help you
After update to 9.0 my battery life became very bad... SoT was barely 2.5h.
However, i found out a way to fix it!
Deleting facebook app, and disabling battery aid improved it alot, disabling sync can also give you a little boost .. Deleting facebook app helped the most. I get between 5-6h SoT. Cheers!

SoT after my tricks?

Strmy said:
After update to 9.0 my battery life became very bad... SoT was barely 2.5h.
However, i found out a way to fix it!
Deleting facebook app, and disabling battery aid improved it alot, disabling sync can also give you a little boost .. Deleting facebook app helped the most. I get between 5-6h SoT. Cheers!
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what do you mean by Battery aid?

Strmy said:
Deleting facebook app
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You should always remove facebook and messenger app and use facebook lite and messenger lite instead

what's the best solution for now to increase sot?

I have a Nokia 7 Plus (Europe) with Android Pie and I have no application problem killed. I do not see any difference in disabling the battery management as well as "evenwell".
What empties my battery is "Google Play Service". Almost 2% per hour is way too much for a device on standby at night.

christ59520 said:
I have a Nokia 7 Plus (Europe) with Android Pie and I have no application problem killed. I do not see any difference in disabling the battery management as well as "evenwell".
What empties
my battery is "Google Play Service". Almost 2% per hour is way too much for a device on standby at night.
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You need to clear cache from Google Play services or perhaps wait for a new update from Google. I had the same issue , however clearing the cache helped me restore battery to a respectable level.

Battery life is awesome for me. It lasts 9 hours in 81% (from 98% to 17%) screen on time, wi-fi always on, without gaming, location disabled (it takes a lot of battery)

After updating to March security patch (Android Pie), battery life returns to great! Adaptive battery can now be permanently turned off and I'm getting average 3 days of normal use on a single charge.

Question Did anyone notice the huge standby battery drain? Any way to measure what causes it?

First off, I love the phone and I'll keep it, but ever since I got the phone I've been wondering why it's draining so much in standby. It's my first Samsung phone since 2011, so naturally I assume it's Samsung apps/services that drain? Especially since I don't use any new apps than on my other phones and in the battery stats it doesn't really show any user apps that use a lot.
Anyone has way to measure what system/user apps drain during standby? Or even better, any dev that could do a deeper dive into this?
For example, I just lost 32% battery while sleeping for about 8h, it has never been this much on any other of my previous phones (OnePlus Nord/Pixel 3a/Pixel 3/Pixel 2).
In fact, my OnePlus Nord with 815mAh more than the Flip3 is currently on last charge 3 days ago (it doesn't show me hours anymore) and 2h35m SOT and 25% battery left. On the Flip I just now got 17h with 1h30m SOT and 5% left. Settings all similar besides location accuracy turned off for the Flip as that was a massive drain.
Something must be unintentionally draining the battery during standby and I really hope one of you smart guys can find it. Or Samsung fixes it with an update..

I disabled AOD and any unnecessary account sync processes. It's only drained about 2% in standby the last 5 hours, but there are still some things to finish configuring.

twistedumbrella said:
I disabled AOD and any unnecessary account sync processes. It's only drained about 2% in standby the last 5 hours, but there are still some things to finish configuring.
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If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone

M4-NOOB said:
If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone
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How old is your device? You got to give it some time to settle. I had 15% battery drain the first night, after that it went down to 5%.

M4-NOOB said:
If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone
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The first step in improving the battery is to remember that this isn't any other phone. You may want to explore what options are available and what all you have enabled. By default, almost everything is on to show off all the cool new features that make this a Flip 3, not a OnePlus Nord.

ione2380 said:
How old is your device? You got to give it some time to settle. I had 15% battery drain the first night, after that it went down to 5%.
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Got it 4 days ago

twistedumbrella said:
The first step in improving the battery is to remember that this isn't any other phone. You may want to explore what options are available and what all you have enabled. By default, almost everything is on to show off all the cool new features that make this a Flip 3, not a OnePlus Nord.
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Which Flip features are in use during standby though? During standby it's just another phone

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Which Flip features are in use during standby though? During standby it's just another phone
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Not true. Samsung has a bunch of features still in use.
Settings -> Advanced features -> Motions and gestures has a whole collection of things that are still running when the screen is off (and most aren't useful to the Flip, but came from "another phone").
Settings -> Cover screen allows you to disable turning on the screen when notifications arrive, if that is not something you need.
Also, unless you are using the app to lower the refresh rate, you may be running a bit high when idle.

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Settings -> Advanced features -> Motions and gestures has a whole collection of things that are still running when the screen is off (and most aren't useful to the Flip, but came from "another phone").
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I've turned a few things off there, but a lot of them OnePlus has too + a few more, which I had all enabled
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Settings -> Cover screen allows you to disable turning on the screen when notifications arrive, if that is not something you need.
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I didn't really get any notification during last night, so I doubt this was the culprit
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Also, unless you are using the app to lower the refresh rate, you may be running a bit high when idle.
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Yes I'm using that app and have it set to 48-96Hz
Appreciate the help, I believe there must be something that's unintentionally draining and while I went through every single setting in the beginning, I'm still very new to OneUI (and also impressed how far it came from the TouchWiz ****show)

One thing I always forget is that a lot of those features are running services and polling when they're enabled. Even though I'm not touching the screen with the tap to wake enabled, it's constantly waiting for that tap when it's asleep. Any one isn't a big impact, but Samsung has so many "convenience" features that I end up wasting battery to never use.
The calibration period is also horrible. Android 11 is slow to calibrate the battery and Samsung is worse. You can get a good idea of what is draining battery by going to Settings -> Battery and device care -> Battery. That may help find out if it's a renegade app.
One thing Asus does that I wish Samsung would embrace is Auto-start management. Some apps aren't efficient at polling for notifications and more than once have been the cause of major drain.
Another one even Samsung admits to be a source of drain is the edge panels. If you don't use them, it's best to kill the entire feature.

twistedumbrella said:
Even though I'm not touching the screen with the tap to wake enabled, it's constantly waiting for that tap when it's asleep. Any one isn't a big impact, but Samsung has so many "convenience" features that I end up wasting battery to never use.
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I just assumed it's not a big impact as OnePlus has those as well, for example draw a "V" on screen for flashlight or ">" to skip song besides the regular double tap to wake and it never appeared to be a battery issue for me before.
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You can get a good idea of what is draining battery by going to Settings -> Battery and device care -> Battery. That may help find out if it's a renegade app.
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Do I assume correctly that some system apps or similar are hidden there? I just did the calculations and the percentages only make up 43.6%. I attached a screenshot

M4-NOOB said:
I just assumed it's not a big impact as OnePlus has those as well, for example draw a "V" on screen for flashlight or ">" to skip song besides the regular double tap to wake and it never appeared to be a battery issue for me before.
Do I assume correctly that some system apps or similar are hidden there? I just did the calculations and the percentages only make up 43.6%. I attached a screenshot
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OnePlus also optimizes them better than brand new Samsung firmware. I had a lot of stuff enabled on the Note 20 Ultra that I won't be using for a month or two now.
Some apps are excluded, but it will let you know if it's something not included with the phone.
Another good idea is to uninstall, disable, or "adb uninstall" any bloat you don't use. Besides clearing up space in the app drawer, it kills off services you don't use. A lot of the apps will run services even before you sign in, even though they aren't actually handling any data.

twistedumbrella said:
Another good idea is to uninstall, disable, or "adb uninstall" any bloat you don't use. Besides clearing up space in the app drawer, it kills off services you don't use. A lot of the apps will run services even before you sign in, even though they aren't actually handling any data.
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I already went through the list and uninstalled which I 100% knew what it was and that it's not needed, but not sure about 99% of Samsung stuff. Some Samsung apps on the phone I don't even know what they are and when I start them it just prompts to agree to some terms before starting the app... I'll have a look around for a Samsung debloat list

M4-NOOB said:
I already went through the list and uninstalled which I 100% knew what it was and that it's not needed, but not sure about 99% of Samsung stuff. Some Samsung apps on the phone I don't even know what they are and when I start them it just prompts to agree to some terms before starting the app... I'll have a look around for a Samsung debloat list
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If you have the unlocked version, they allowed uninstall for a lot of apps that were previously locked. A lot can also be downloaded later from Google Play or the Galaxy Store if you change your mind.
I use Firefox, so I uninstall Samsung Internet and Chrome. Members and Health are two big ones that like to run those "please enable us" services. It's a lot of deciding what you might use versus what you can live without.
Another good idea is to add anything you won't use, but didn't remove to deep sleeping apps to kill it's ability to run in the background. It's the closest thing to auto start management without rooting.
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twistedumbrella said:
Another good idea is to add anything you won't use, but didn't remove to deep sleeping apps to kill it's ability to run in the background. It's the closest thing to auto start management without rooting.
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Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow

M4-NOOB said:
Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow
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Thank you for taking the time, mine is also going down %30 overnight. would love to hear about your result.

ShayMagen said:
Thank you for taking the time, mine is also going down %30 overnight. would love to hear about your result.
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So far I don't have much hope sadly. Whole day currently at home and not using the phone much and it's looking like in the screenshot (screen off, loosing almost 2.7% per hour, as comparison my OnePlus is at 0.9% per hour)
https://imgur.com/RLITZwQ
It's 21:21 at the moment and I'm at 54% after 9h 42m (comparison OnePlus with 815mAh more: 7% after 79h with 2h54m SOT)
https://imgur.com/M9zO2hV
I'll probably head to bed in a few hours and then report back tomorrow morning how much I lost during the night..

I'm not claiming to have amazing battery life, since I almost considered keeping my trade-in and returning this one over it. I am interested why it is so bad for others, though.

twistedumbrella said:
I'm not claiming to have amazing battery life, since I almost considered keeping my trade-in and returning this one over it. I am interested why it is so bad for others, though.
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HOLY **** I would love to have this battery life. I'm literally not doing anything with the phone and just loosing so much. I'm pretty much the opposite of a power user, so my phone is in standby most of the time and loosing so much is pretty frustrating.
EDIT: I might have an idea why it's so bad for me, I don't really have reception in my apartment (as you can see on my screenshots), so I assume it's constantly trying to get better receptions, I see 2 bars sometimes, but most of the time 0. I'll keep my phone at the window where I have reception for the rest of the day and see if it makes a difference. (Although the OnePlus has also bad reception, but does have a different carriers SIM card)

M4-NOOB said:
Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow
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Dependencies, dependencies, dependencies... some of those apks just sit there unless needed.
Do not disable apks/services unless you know what they do and what, if any, their dependencies are. Go too far and you'll end up in a boot loop.
What works for others probably isn't ideal for you.
Package Disabler is a better option as you easily toggle apks on/off as needed.
Screen off the serial offenders tend to be Google backup Transport, Framework and any cloud apps.
Try disabling Google play Services at night and see if that helps. You may need to disable Find my Device first as System Administrator if disable is greyed out.
Disabling play services also kills Gmaps and Playstore which are know hogs. Gmail as well to a lesser extent.
Google Firebase, do you need it? If not disable.
Carrier, Google, Samsung and app feedback, disable.
Using power management can cause erratic behavior and not solve the problem. Treat each power hog on a case by case basis instead. It takes a lot longer but yields a cleaner, more stable setup.
Play with it, go through -all- the settings. It's actually quit fun to explore and almost impossible to crash and burn.
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