Here are some of my GSAM stats on this Imgur link. I am worried I am dealing with lousy battery life and have to charge my phone once a day mid-day to get anything done. I was expecting 5-6 SOT and decent stand by battery life with Doze. Even with Airplane Mode and Wi-Fi, my phone's battery life drains a bit too. I did a cache wipe and dalvik cache wipe too.
I have the July Patch with stock T-Mobile software: Baseband G930TUVU3APG1
https://imgur.com/a/z11jw
Do I need to do a factory data reset of some sorts? Or wait for a new update, even though T-Mobile is taking their merry ole time with the August patch?
I had really bad, terrible battery life when i first got this week couple weeks back until i looked into it.
First i installed root on the phone, and started to uninstall unnecessary programs and bloatware that came with the phone. If you decide to install root, PLEASE follow the instructions to a point. I forgot to disable manual security updates and one week later, ran into the famous bootloop and had to start all over. Oh well, lesson learned and i learned
After i uninstalled several programs, i still noticed that i had better battery life but not great. I thought maybe it was my old house the reception "pinging" was the cause of it. After searching around, i was told to install "Wakelock Detector" App from the Play Store.
What this App does is that it will tell you which app that are installed on your phone, are causing to "wakeup" your device either by pinging out, or waking up the screen or whatever. After running the program and after a day of it surveying my phone, it found several programs being the cause. Mainly my email App. It was waking up the device, something like 43 times a day. After looking around the settings of the App, i had it setup to check for emails every 5 minutes. After adjusting several other programs, battery life is great.
Just today, i took my phone off the charger at 9am and here it is 10:43pm and my battery is sitting at 55% battery with medium use today.
Also look into system settings such as Account sync options, wifi searching and whatnot.
Hope this helps. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask away. I love to help out
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I had really bad, terrible battery life when i first got this week couple weeks back until i looked into it.
First i installed root on the phone, and started to uninstall unnecessary programs and bloatware that came with the phone. If you decide to install root, PLEASE follow the instructions to a point. I forgot to disable manual security updates and one week later, ran into the famous bootloop and had to start all over. Oh well, lesson learned and i learned
After i uninstalled several programs, i still noticed that i had better battery life but not great. I thought maybe it was my old house the reception "pinging" was the cause of it. After searching around, i was told to install "Wakelock Detector" App from the Play Store.
What this App does is that it will tell you which app that are installed on your phone, are causing to "wakeup" your device either by pinging out, or waking up the screen or whatever. After running the program and after a day of it surveying my phone, it found several programs being the cause. Mainly my email App. It was waking up the device, something like 43 times a day. After looking around the settings of the App, i had it setup to check for emails every 5 minutes. After adjusting several other programs, battery life is great.
Just today, i took my phone off the charger at 9am and here it is 10:43pm and my battery is sitting at 55% battery with medium use today.
Also look into system settings such as Account sync options, wifi searching and whatnot.
Hope this helps. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask away. I love to help out
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Thanks, but what if I don't want to root whatsoever? I just want to keep stock for now. I heard the July update is causing battery issues for tons of folks?
nviz22 said:
Thanks, but what if I don't want to root whatsoever? I just want to keep stock for now. I heard the July update is causing battery issues for tons of folks?
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You could always use Debloater 3.90 to disable certain apps from running. Although this wont unistalled the apps nor will it free up any space, it will prevent them from running.
Did you check into the settings that I mentioned within the System settings or download Wakelock Detector? This will help you figure out and pin point the issue.
#rooton
Eighthourblink said:
You could always use Debloater 3.90 to disable certain apps from running. Although this wont unistalled the apps nor will it free up any space, it will prevent them from running.
Did you check into the settings that I mentioned within the System settings or download Wakelock Detector? This will help you figure out and pin point the issue.
#rooton
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I tried a few times in the past, but I always end up disabling stuff and it causes a headache. I only want to disable stuff like DT Ignite and T-Mobile anyways. I'll play with the settings. Didn't download the wake lock detector since it said root was better.
nviz22 said:
I tried a few times in the past, but I always end up disabling stuff and it causes a headache. I only want to disable stuff like DT Ignite and T-Mobile anyways. I'll play with the settings. Didn't download the wake lock detector since it said root was better.
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Two good guides from the main Samsung S7 are located here :
Debloater - Safe Apps to Disable
Battery Life Discussion
Although i wouldn't disable all the apps that the thread suggests, i did use it as a guide. Most of Tmobile and useless Apps are safe to delete.
There is a way to run WakeLock Detector without root but you have to be familiar running command prompts / ADB lines. I can walk you through it if you are interested. Not too complicated, but can be if you have never did it before.
#rooton
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Two good guides from the main Samsung S7 are located here :
Debloater - Safe Apps to Disable
Battery Life Discussion
Although i wouldn't disable all the apps that the thread suggests, i did use it as a guide. Most of Tmobile and useless Apps are safe to delete.
There is a way to run WakeLock Detector without root but you have to be familiar running command prompts / ADB lines. I can walk you through it if you are interested. Not too complicated, but can be if you have never did it before.
#rooton
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I'll try those. Thanks.
Smart Manger was causing a huge drain for me. I disabled it with Package Disabler and drain was gone.
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As soon as I got my phone and set it up, I disabled all the AT&T bloatware in addition to google+, twitter, ypmobile, etc. Phone was always running great, but I kept wondering why I could never get over 3 hours screen time.
Fast forward to this morning....I re-enabled every app that I have disabled, and now I'm sitting at 3 hours screen time with 35% battery left. Didn't change anything else.
So I'm not sure why disabling apps caused a huge battery drain (I thought it would help with battery), but it did for me.
Might be something to check out if you are having battery issues.
Weird. Mine last longer. Check your auto-sync settings?
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As soon as I got my phone and set it up, I disabled all the AT&T bloatware in addition to google+, twitter, ypmobile, etc. Phone was always running great, but I kept wondering why I could never get over 3 hours screen time.
Fast forward to this morning....I re-enabled every app that I have disabled, and now I'm sitting at 3 hours screen time with 35% battery left. Didn't change anything else.
So I'm not sure why disabling apps caused a huge battery drain (I thought it would help with battery), but it did for me.
Might be something to check out if you are having battery issues.
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You said as soon as you got your phone set up you did this. That brings a few things to mind:
1) It sounds like it was your first or second battery charge. You need to fully charge/discharge a couple times before the battery's properly configured and you'll experience the device's full battery life.
2) Being that you just set it up, auto-sync would be working overtime for the first-time sync. You know, pulling in all your contacts, emails, calendar events, facebook everything, and so on, causing a higher-than-normal strain on the radio (either wifi or LTE, doesn't matter) and CPU.
Now that your battery's calibrated and your first-time sync is done with, give'er a full charge, disable the same apps again, and let us know how that goes.
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Weird. Mine last longer. Check your auto-sync settings?
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I've checked everything. Everything was OK, so I decided to re-enable the apps to see what would happen and now my battery life is where it should be.
Maybe I disabled an app that needs to be enabled or something. I don't feel like figuring out which one it is, so I just enabled all of them.
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I've checked everything. Everything was OK, so I decided to re-enable the apps to see what would happen and now my battery life is where it should be.
Maybe I disabled an app that needs to be enabled or something. I don't feel like figuring out which one it is, so I just enabled all of them.
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Do you work for ATT and just want us to turn the Bloat back on
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You said as soon as you got your phone set up you did this. That brings a few things to mind:
1) It sounds like it was your first or second battery charge. You need to fully charge/discharge a couple times before the battery's properly configured and you'll experience the device's full battery life.
2) Being that you just set it up, auto-sync would be working overtime for the first-time sync. You know, pulling in all your contacts, emails, calendar events, facebook everything, and so on, causing a higher-than-normal strain on the radio (either wifi or LTE, doesn't matter) and CPU.
Now that your battery's calibrated and your first-time sync is done with, give'er a full charge, disable the same apps again, and let us know how that goes.
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I mean when I first set up the phone I disabled the apps. I've been using the phone for a few days with the apps disabled, so I just re-enabled them this morning.
This seems counter-intuitive. Until a few more people report similar situations I'm reluctant to believe that it was one of the apps being enabled/disabled that caused and fixed the problem.
I personally disabled all the bloatware that was possible and I've had phenomenal battery life. Sounds like your phone just needs to go through those first couple charge cycles to get the battery going properly.
yeah mate, have to agree with the guys above. i disabled all the ATT crapware and haven't had any problems. sounds like you've got a wake lock somewhere. download CPU Spy from the market and search the forums for Better Battery Stats to find the culprit
I've got quite a few things disabled and I hit 34 hours on a single charge earlier today. Sadly I had to reboot so the uptime chart only shows 24 hours.
After seeing this I've re-enabled all of the HTC bloatware (facebook, twitter, etc.). I have a feeling that my crappy battery life may have something to do with HTC's Sense software somehow trying to interact (with their widgets and whatnot) with my disabled apps. If that doesn't change anything, I'll try to enable AT&T's bloatware too and see if that makes a difference.
Really, it comes down to installing Xposed framework and Greenify.
Sometimes we need to be told straight up what works, and its installing XPosed Framework, and installing Greenify to identify what's waking up and consuming battery - and then telling Greenify to put it to sleep.
I'm doing this write up because it's something I know a lot of us are facing with our Relay's as they age and we try to stay current with new roms.
Like quite a few of us I've sacrificed battery life for an updated rom that looks decent and runs fast. Between builds and Kernels I was lucky to get through the day let alone to 24 hours without my phone needing a charge - even if I didn't play any games.
I tried flashing clean and not using titanium backup - didnt have any effect once I had the apps I desired installed.
I checked OS Monitor, wakelock detector, battery usage things, juice defender... nothing really extended or identified what he true cause, things said Android System UI or Display or Graphics was eating it all up. I started wondering if it was the latest roms with the transparent pull down notifications or the annoying pop ups that show you text messages and emails in the top foreground of the screen ..
Turns out for me, it was my "Transparent Weather Widget" I wanted something that showed a 5 day forecast and this sucker was DRAINING my battery.
I'm now running SlimKat initial build (Mar 15 2014) with Xposed framework, Juice Defender and Greenify. Everything is working perfect on my phone now. I keep checking in greenify and sleeping apps that don't need to be using any resources until I execute them. One item about SlimKat is you need to 2 finger pinch together the recent tasks to close all apps at once, other than that it has every feature I wanted, less annoying pop ups than the most recent KitKat's and my battery today - 50% after 14 hours. Usually at the most by a day like today I would have is 15% but more likely 6%.
This may be long winded, but its the steps we've all been mystified on why System UI or Display is the leading cause of battery use.. I think it has to do with the transparency of my widgets .. Food for thought if it helps others.
yohan4ws said:
Really, it comes down to installing Xposed framework and Greenify.
Sometimes we need to be told straight up what works, and its installing XPosed Framework, and installing Greenify to identify what's waking up and consuming battery - and then telling Greenify to put it to sleep.
I'm doing this write up because it's something I know a lot of us are facing with our Relay's as they age and we try to stay current with new roms.
Like quite a few of us I've sacrificed battery life for an updated rom that looks decent and runs fast. Between builds and Kernels I was lucky to get through the day let alone to 24 hours without my phone needing a charge - even if I didn't play any games.
I tried flashing clean and not using titanium backup - didnt have any effect once I had the apps I desired installed.
I checked OS Monitor, wakelock detector, battery usage things, juice defender... nothing really extended or identified what he true cause, things said Android System UI or Display or Graphics was eating it all up. I started wondering if it was the latest roms with the transparent pull down notifications or the annoying pop ups that show you text messages and emails in the top foreground of the screen ..
Turns out for me, it was my "Transparent Weather Widget" I wanted something that showed a 5 day forecast and this sucker was DRAINING my battery.
I'm now running SlimKat initial build (Mar 15 2014) with Xposed framework, Juice Defender and Greenify. Everything is working perfect on my phone now. I keep checking in greenify and sleeping apps that don't need to be using any resources until I execute them. One item about SlimKat is you need to 2 finger pinch together the recent tasks to close all apps at once, other than that it has every feature I wanted, less annoying pop ups than the most recent KitKat's and my battery today - 50% after 14 hours. Usually at the most by a day like today I would have is 15% but more likely 6%.
This may be long winded, but its the steps we've all been mystified on why System UI or Display is the leading cause of battery use.. I think it has to do with the transparency of my widgets .. Food for thought if it helps others.
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Really good post, I can say I using 20140315 version (last working camera) and last kernel for it (don't remember the version) get really good performance and similar battery, using the same xposed
OmniToad now includes methods to turn off specific alarms and wakelocks at a lower level than greenify and/or Xposed.
Magamo said:
OmniToad now includes methods to turn off specific alarms and wakelocks at a lower level than greenify and/or Xposed.
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You can try the battery performance already?
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I'm now running SlimKat initial build (Mar 15 2014) with Xposed framework, Juice Defender and Greenify. Everything is working perfect on my phone now. I keep checking in greenify and sleeping apps that don't need to be using any resources until I execute them. One item about SlimKat is you need to 2 finger pinch together the recent tasks to close all apps at once, other than that it has every feature I wanted, less annoying pop ups than the most recent KitKat's and my battery today - 50% after 14 hours. Usually at the most by a day like today I would have is 15% but more likely 6%.
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What kind of wireless networks do you use throughout the day and what kind of screen on time are you juicing out in your 14 hours??
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What kind of wireless networks do you use throughout the day and what kind of screen on time are you juicing out in your 14 hours??
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30 second timeout on the screen, i check it to read emails and texts, the odd phone call, sometimes i will run a wifi diagnostic for the networks i support using fing and wifi analyzer.. i keep my phone off and locked otherwise. in the car bluetooth is enabled. i was going wifi diagnostic yesterday when i got such great battery life.
today i have android weather and clock widget (cant recall the exact name) running w 3hour update .. after 8 hours i have 58% remaining, im in an area with horrible cell coverage , stats say 38mins screen on time.
there is nothing different of my usage over the passed cpl weeks, just enabling greenify and sleeping a voip app, facebook, google maps and the weather widget.
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there is nothing different of my usage over the passed cpl weeks, just enabling greenify and sleeping a voip app, facebook, google maps and the weather widget.
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I'm using dashclock with 15min weather update, greader app with over 120feeds (aggregated in feedly) with 15 min update interval too and lots of other apps including the evil facebook+messenger. I switched recently from latest LiquidSmooth to Omnitoad and the result is I got the battery dropped by 9% overnight (10 hours) in idle mode.
Nota bene: without any tweaking.
I installed the Xposed framework and successfully used it to get rid of the "Just Once" app picker annoyance.
Edit: the play store has a Greenify which requires Xposed framework. Tutorial on Greenify use is on Youtube. Up and running now, but noticed that I am not getting a GPS fix now ever since the altrnt app picker MOD. It's always something!
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How can install xposed on cm 11?
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I installed the Xposed framework and successfully used it to get rid of the "Just Once" app picker annoyance.
Edit: the play store has a Greenify which requires Xposed framework. Tutorial on Greenify use is on Youtube. Up and running now, but noticed that I am not getting a GPS fix now ever since the altrnt app picker MOD. It's always something!
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Hi! Do you have your relay with CM11 or stock ROM? I can't manage to install xposed with CM11. Thanks!
ninguno2 said:
Hi! Do you have your relay with CM11 or stock ROM? I can't manage to install xposed with CM11. Thanks!
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I'd be curious to know too. I recently tried to install xposed again (last time I used it was probably a couple of years ago) on my Relay running the last official CM11 nightly, and it didn't work either. First the installer complained that xposed isn't compatible with my version of the Android SDK, but there is a fix for that (I forget where, but it is somewhere on XDA). But even when I applied the fix, it still failed, I started getting bootloops. So yeah, I'd love to know how to install xposed on the Relay too...
I have to say, I have been using my Relay more lately, as my main phone has been having some issues, and the main thing that keeps me from using it more is battery life. I'm not crazy about the screen, but I can live with it, and I have just about everything else running fairly smoothly - and the keyboard is just a joy to use. This thing is a real workhorse. But when the battery plummets down to ~70% or 60% within a couple of hours of use, that's just not cool...
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I'd be curious to know too. I recently tried to install xposed again (last time I used it was probably a couple of years ago) on my Relay running the last official CM11 nightly, and it didn't work either. First the installer complained that xposed isn't compatible with my version of the Android SDK, but there is a fix for that (I forget where, but it is somewhere on XDA). But even when I applied the fix, it still failed, I started getting bootloops. So yeah, I'd love to know how to install xposed on the Relay too...
I have to say, I have been using my Relay more lately, as my main phone has been having some issues, and the main thing that keeps me from using it more is battery life. I'm not crazy about the screen, but I can live with it, and I have just about everything else running fairly smoothly - and the keyboard is just a joy to use. This thing is a real workhorse. But when the battery plummets down to ~70% or 60% within a couple of hours of use, that's just not cool...
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Hi, i got it working with the files in this posts
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72133164&postcount=210
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72133164&postcount=209
I download both files, first I install the apk and got a bootloop, and then flash the zip from recovery. That fixes the bootloop and keep xposed installed.
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Hi, i got it working with the files in this posts
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72133164&postcount=210
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72133164&postcount=209
I download both files, first I install the apk and got a bootloop, and then flash the zip from recovery. That fixes the bootloop and keep xposed installed.
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So - install .apk, then flash the .zip - correct? And xposed is working well now for you?
[EDIT] So the .apk you posted worked just fine for me, no need to flash the .zip! Odd, but grateful this worked. Thanks!
Just wanted to confirm: Greenify (root) + Greenify xposed module + Amplify xposed module make a huge difference. Battery lasts much longer, and I have this sneaking suspicion the phone is generally smoother and less laggy. Might well be placebo, I know, but with useless background processes being sht down it might well have an effect on performance...
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So - install .apk, then flash the .zip - correct? And xposed is working well now for you?
[EDIT] So the .apk you posted worked just fine for me, no need to flash the .zip! Odd, but grateful this worked. Thanks!
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Great! I don't know why, but i had to flash the second one too.
Could you tell me which options have you check in Greenify and Amplify with xposed to get better battery life?
Thanks!
Greenify: Root mode + Xposed, of course. I've got automatic hibernation set, and for xposed features, I set all of them except Deep Hibernation
Amplify: even just selecting the default wakelock blocks in the free version helps a lot, but I use the paid version and I limited just about every wakelock that the app said was safe to limit (but only ones that were also described as safe in their blurb - some in the "safe" list are described as "we don't have any information for this wakelock yet") except for a few that were really light wakelocks.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 and the battery was doing fine. A few weeks ago the phone started getting quite slow and the battery life went way down. I had installed a few apps around then, so I removed them and still battery life was bad. I tried restarting the phone and that didn't help. At the time I was running Marshmellow and I was using OSMonitor to watch the system. I was finding that Android OS was taking most of my battery and 30% of the CPU all of the time. Not long after that Nougat became available and I upgraded thinking that might help. It didn't help and OSMonitor no longer worked. I switched to GSam Battery Monitor and used adb to give it the permissions to see all app information. I'm still finding that the Kernel is taking 28% of my battery and Android System is taking 37% of my battery and I can't figure out why. I would rather not need to do a full reset and install all of my apps and settings again, so I'm asking if anyone out there has ideas on things to try and fix this. This is a non-rooted phone running the stock image from Samsung/Verizon.
Thanks for any help.
try activate the Battery Saving option and use it for a day and see if helps
I've had this happen to me before. The phone was getting seriously hot while it was happening too. I decided to do all I can without doing a factory reset (I was on vacation at the time, so no access to something to backup my data).
I cleared the cache of all apps. Then I disabled all of the stock apps I didn't need (like Gear VR). I also shuttered apps running in the background to about a max of 3 apps open at any given time. That stopped the insane heat issue, but Android System was still sucking 30% of the battery. I turned off Always On Display, that got me down to about 25%. A factory reset got the phone down to around 10%, and I never saw the issue again.
Before you do that I would recommend checking out this thread below as there does appear to be a bunch of other possible solutions provided by others.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/how-experiencing-android-battery-drain-t3327730/page51
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But then my background syncing is turned off too...
I didn't need this before, so wondering why I should need it now.
I had same issues and was able to fix it. See the following thread for details.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=71558514
Try this , it helped me a lot .
Download from the XDA forums the Kernel named : "Apollo Kernel" v7
Just flash it , and when you install it , if you dont use your phone for high end games or hard work,that requires high end specs , then you can underclock the cpu/gpu .
It s a battery life saver, plus , your components will be much better in terms of thermals/life
Hey guys! Posted this on Reddit, and many people loved my guide and explanations, SO Posting this here and hope this helps everyone with issues about the battery etc.
After a few days of testing these are my tips to you guys, AND my experience how I got atleast better battery life to some extinct.
Now to the basic charging tip as some, and some not know. Charging between 30% to 80/90% is smart. Wears the battery much less than 0 to 100% for instance. Read this up further if you need, not gonna talk about this forever.
To the Nokia battery part. So first of all MANY users have reported Adaptive battery and auto-brightness are bugged and drains more than they should. Well this is true. DO NOT use adaptive battery if you experience bad battery life, and especially not auto-brightness. Why am I saying do not use it? Simple. It does the opposite, so is reported many others. I tested this carefully when sleeping to test the idle drain just by having the Android system installed and a few apps. I got a drain of around 10 to 13% through only 9 hours of sleeping. This is bad. However when adaptive battery turned off, no apps restricted I tested for many days and ended up with only a drain of 2 to 4% through those 9 hours. Will it help you? I dunno, but worked for many.
EVENWELL APPS. Usually bloatware. Only few apps from evenwell is needed for the OS to work. The powersaving g3 package from evenwell, which is a third party that Nokia has done some kind of deal with. The powersaving was suppose to help, but instead made things worse. Making alarms useless etc etc that has been mentioned on the forum. It kills apps even wehn whitelisted or when the phone was locked for a while.
Hook up the nokia on your pc and use adb. Uninstall this package, and almost all evenwell packages installed. Atleast powersaving g3 package, as it's known to drain. Most are bloatware, however you need to be careful not to delete the wrong packages, as they can only be restored by factory reset. Which packages to uninstall depends on your needs. Please remember to check on xda to find a guide on this, if not I will find it for you. This can help a lot just by using some of your time to remove stuff you might not need.
Turn off the aggressive 4g switch in developer settings. It will set 4g to always active, and you are better off just having it off. Should be called something like "Mobile data always active".
You got facebook? Well many has reported that facebook drains a lot, as it uses many services to communicate with the phone. I usually just use dolphin browser and have facebook logged in
Now for me I have these settings mentioned above, and I use my phone a lot, I get around 2 to 2,5 days of use of the phone just by doing these things. Uninstalling many evenwell packages helped a lot too. If none of these tips help you, then deleting caches can help. If not backup and factory reset the phone. If that does not work too, then it could just be the Pie updates being drainy for you. Hope this helps anyone ! Ask me if any questions!
Question: When turning off adaptive battery it keeps turning on after a while. Answer: have atleast 1 app restricted and adaptive battery on. From there turn it off and let the 1 app stay restricted (it really isn't). Now it should hopefully stay off.
Thanks for tips.
I have a request for you. Could you make a list of evenwell apps which are 100% safe to uninstall from N7+?
zax880 said:
Thanks for tips.
I have a request for you. Could you make a list of evenwell apps which are 100% safe to uninstall from N7+?
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No problem I actually have a guide i followed both explaining what you can and what you must NOT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/nokia-2-apps-safe-to-delete-t3783158
it is for nokia 2 it says but its so to say the same for nokia 7 plus. Have a look, and let me know if issues!
I could't find 4G aggressive switch in developer settings
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Hey guys! Posted this on Reddit, and many people loved my guide and explanations, SO Posting this here and hope this helps everyone with issues about the battery etc.
After a few days of testing these are my tips to you guys, AND my experience how I got atleast better battery life to some extinct.
Now to the basic charging tip as some, and some not know. Charging between 30% to 80/90% is smart. Wears the battery much less than 0 to 100% for instance. Read this up further if you need, not gonna talk about this forever.
To the Nokia battery part. So first of all MANY users have reported Adaptive battery and auto-brightness are bugged and drains more than they should. Well this is true. DO NOT use adaptive battery if you experience bad battery life, and especially not auto-brightness. Why am I saying do not use it? Simple. It does the opposite, so is reported many others. I tested this carefully when sleeping to test the idle drain just by having the Android system installed and a few apps. I got a drain of around 10 to 13% through only 9 hours of sleeping. This is bad. However when adaptive battery turned off, no apps restricted I tested for many days and ended up with only a drain of 2 to 4% through those 9 hours. Will it help you? I dunno, but worked for many.
EVENWELL APPS. Usually bloatware. Only few apps from evenwell is needed for the OS to work. The powersaving g3 package from evenwell, which is a third party that Nokia has done some kind of deal with. The powersaving was suppose to help, but instead made things worse. Making alarms useless etc etc that has been mentioned on the forum. It kills apps even wehn whitelisted or when the phone was locked for a while.
Hook up the nokia on your pc and use adb. Uninstall this package, and almost all evenwell packages installed. Atleast powersaving g3 package, as it's known to drain. Most are bloatware, however you need to be careful not to delete the wrong packages, as they can only be restored by factory reset. Which packages to uninstall depends on your needs. Please remember to check on xda to find a guide on this, if not I will find it for you. This can help a lot just by using some of your time to remove stuff you might not need.
Turn off the aggressive 4g switch in developer settings. It will set 4g to always active, and you are better off just having it off. Should be called something like "Mobile data always active".
You got facebook? Well many has reported that facebook drains a lot, as it uses many services to communicate with the phone. I usually just use dolphin browser and have facebook logged in
Now for me I have these settings mentioned above, and I use my phone a lot, I get around 2 to 2,5 days of use of the phone just by doing these things. Uninstalling many evenwell packages helped a lot too. If none of these tips help you, then deleting caches can help. If not backup and factory reset the phone. If that does not work too, then it could just be the Pie updates being drainy for you. Hope this helps anyone ! Ask me if any questions!
Question: When turning off adaptive battery it keeps turning on after a while. Answer: have atleast 1 app restricted and adaptive battery on. From there turn it off and let the 1 app stay restricted (it really isn't). Now it should hopefully stay off.
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Thanks for your effort to put this together.
I am not sure about Evenwell apps and I'll explain why:
- I did not uninstalled or blocked Evenwell app. What I did was to turn off battery saver (maybe it's the same thing?) And that improved battery life a lot.
- I am getting 2.5 - 3 days battery use for a full charge (100% charge - did this with every phone I had, never had an issue with battery).
- I do not have issues with alarms, fitness tracking, notifications, etc.
- I agree with disabling 4g always on - that helps a lot
- definitely agree with Facebook.
- adaptive battery is still on.
I am on Pie, December patch.
trveller72 said:
Thanks for your effort to put this together.
I am not sure about Evenwell apps and I'll explain why:
- I did not uninstalled or blocked Evenwell app. What I did was to turn off battery saver (maybe it's the same thing?) And that improved battery life a lot.
- I am getting 2.5 - 3 days battery use for a full charge (100% charge - did this with every phone I had, never had an issue with battery).
- I do not have issues with alarms, fitness tracking, notifications, etc.
- I agree with disabling 4g always on - that helps a lot
- definitely agree with Facebook.
- adaptive battery is still on.
I am on Pie, December patch.
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And a screenshot for battery saver
Thanks i actually thought that the Android One meant a debloated system. So i never even cared about checking the system apps. Well now my phone is debloated! Almost as many ****ty apps that Samsung has.
It runs much smoother in the UI too.
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Whats that unaccounted apps are, telewell apps?
And it tooks more than screen on does...
nexus723 said:
You got facebook? Well many has reported that facebook drains a lot, as it uses many services to communicate with the phone. I usually just use dolphin browser and have facebook logged in.
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Guide to help you
After update to 9.0 my battery life became very bad... SoT was barely 2.5h.
However, i found out a way to fix it!
Deleting facebook app, and disabling battery aid improved it alot, disabling sync can also give you a little boost .. Deleting facebook app helped the most. I get between 5-6h SoT. Cheers!
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Strmy said:
After update to 9.0 my battery life became very bad... SoT was barely 2.5h.
However, i found out a way to fix it!
Deleting facebook app, and disabling battery aid improved it alot, disabling sync can also give you a little boost .. Deleting facebook app helped the most. I get between 5-6h SoT. Cheers!
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what do you mean by Battery aid?
Strmy said:
Deleting facebook app
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You should always remove facebook and messenger app and use facebook lite and messenger lite instead
what's the best solution for now to increase sot?
I have a Nokia 7 Plus (Europe) with Android Pie and I have no application problem killed. I do not see any difference in disabling the battery management as well as "evenwell".
What empties my battery is "Google Play Service". Almost 2% per hour is way too much for a device on standby at night.
christ59520 said:
I have a Nokia 7 Plus (Europe) with Android Pie and I have no application problem killed. I do not see any difference in disabling the battery management as well as "evenwell".
What empties
my battery is "Google Play Service". Almost 2% per hour is way too much for a device on standby at night.
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You need to clear cache from Google Play services or perhaps wait for a new update from Google. I had the same issue , however clearing the cache helped me restore battery to a respectable level.
Battery life is awesome for me. It lasts 9 hours in 81% (from 98% to 17%) screen on time, wi-fi always on, without gaming, location disabled (it takes a lot of battery)
After updating to March security patch (Android Pie), battery life returns to great! Adaptive battery can now be permanently turned off and I'm getting average 3 days of normal use on a single charge.
First off, I love the phone and I'll keep it, but ever since I got the phone I've been wondering why it's draining so much in standby. It's my first Samsung phone since 2011, so naturally I assume it's Samsung apps/services that drain? Especially since I don't use any new apps than on my other phones and in the battery stats it doesn't really show any user apps that use a lot.
Anyone has way to measure what system/user apps drain during standby? Or even better, any dev that could do a deeper dive into this?
For example, I just lost 32% battery while sleeping for about 8h, it has never been this much on any other of my previous phones (OnePlus Nord/Pixel 3a/Pixel 3/Pixel 2).
In fact, my OnePlus Nord with 815mAh more than the Flip3 is currently on last charge 3 days ago (it doesn't show me hours anymore) and 2h35m SOT and 25% battery left. On the Flip I just now got 17h with 1h30m SOT and 5% left. Settings all similar besides location accuracy turned off for the Flip as that was a massive drain.
Something must be unintentionally draining the battery during standby and I really hope one of you smart guys can find it. Or Samsung fixes it with an update..
I disabled AOD and any unnecessary account sync processes. It's only drained about 2% in standby the last 5 hours, but there are still some things to finish configuring.
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I disabled AOD and any unnecessary account sync processes. It's only drained about 2% in standby the last 5 hours, but there are still some things to finish configuring.
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If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone
M4-NOOB said:
If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone
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How old is your device? You got to give it some time to settle. I had 15% battery drain the first night, after that it went down to 5%.
M4-NOOB said:
If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone
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The first step in improving the battery is to remember that this isn't any other phone. You may want to explore what options are available and what all you have enabled. By default, almost everything is on to show off all the cool new features that make this a Flip 3, not a OnePlus Nord.
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How old is your device? You got to give it some time to settle. I had 15% battery drain the first night, after that it went down to 5%.
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Got it 4 days ago
twistedumbrella said:
The first step in improving the battery is to remember that this isn't any other phone. You may want to explore what options are available and what all you have enabled. By default, almost everything is on to show off all the cool new features that make this a Flip 3, not a OnePlus Nord.
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Which Flip features are in use during standby though? During standby it's just another phone
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Which Flip features are in use during standby though? During standby it's just another phone
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Not true. Samsung has a bunch of features still in use.
Settings -> Advanced features -> Motions and gestures has a whole collection of things that are still running when the screen is off (and most aren't useful to the Flip, but came from "another phone").
Settings -> Cover screen allows you to disable turning on the screen when notifications arrive, if that is not something you need.
Also, unless you are using the app to lower the refresh rate, you may be running a bit high when idle.
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Settings -> Advanced features -> Motions and gestures has a whole collection of things that are still running when the screen is off (and most aren't useful to the Flip, but came from "another phone").
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I've turned a few things off there, but a lot of them OnePlus has too + a few more, which I had all enabled
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Settings -> Cover screen allows you to disable turning on the screen when notifications arrive, if that is not something you need.
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I didn't really get any notification during last night, so I doubt this was the culprit
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Also, unless you are using the app to lower the refresh rate, you may be running a bit high when idle.
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Yes I'm using that app and have it set to 48-96Hz
Appreciate the help, I believe there must be something that's unintentionally draining and while I went through every single setting in the beginning, I'm still very new to OneUI (and also impressed how far it came from the TouchWiz ****show)
One thing I always forget is that a lot of those features are running services and polling when they're enabled. Even though I'm not touching the screen with the tap to wake enabled, it's constantly waiting for that tap when it's asleep. Any one isn't a big impact, but Samsung has so many "convenience" features that I end up wasting battery to never use.
The calibration period is also horrible. Android 11 is slow to calibrate the battery and Samsung is worse. You can get a good idea of what is draining battery by going to Settings -> Battery and device care -> Battery. That may help find out if it's a renegade app.
One thing Asus does that I wish Samsung would embrace is Auto-start management. Some apps aren't efficient at polling for notifications and more than once have been the cause of major drain.
Another one even Samsung admits to be a source of drain is the edge panels. If you don't use them, it's best to kill the entire feature.
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Even though I'm not touching the screen with the tap to wake enabled, it's constantly waiting for that tap when it's asleep. Any one isn't a big impact, but Samsung has so many "convenience" features that I end up wasting battery to never use.
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I just assumed it's not a big impact as OnePlus has those as well, for example draw a "V" on screen for flashlight or ">" to skip song besides the regular double tap to wake and it never appeared to be a battery issue for me before.
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You can get a good idea of what is draining battery by going to Settings -> Battery and device care -> Battery. That may help find out if it's a renegade app.
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Do I assume correctly that some system apps or similar are hidden there? I just did the calculations and the percentages only make up 43.6%. I attached a screenshot
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I just assumed it's not a big impact as OnePlus has those as well, for example draw a "V" on screen for flashlight or ">" to skip song besides the regular double tap to wake and it never appeared to be a battery issue for me before.
Do I assume correctly that some system apps or similar are hidden there? I just did the calculations and the percentages only make up 43.6%. I attached a screenshot
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OnePlus also optimizes them better than brand new Samsung firmware. I had a lot of stuff enabled on the Note 20 Ultra that I won't be using for a month or two now.
Some apps are excluded, but it will let you know if it's something not included with the phone.
Another good idea is to uninstall, disable, or "adb uninstall" any bloat you don't use. Besides clearing up space in the app drawer, it kills off services you don't use. A lot of the apps will run services even before you sign in, even though they aren't actually handling any data.
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Another good idea is to uninstall, disable, or "adb uninstall" any bloat you don't use. Besides clearing up space in the app drawer, it kills off services you don't use. A lot of the apps will run services even before you sign in, even though they aren't actually handling any data.
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I already went through the list and uninstalled which I 100% knew what it was and that it's not needed, but not sure about 99% of Samsung stuff. Some Samsung apps on the phone I don't even know what they are and when I start them it just prompts to agree to some terms before starting the app... I'll have a look around for a Samsung debloat list
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I already went through the list and uninstalled which I 100% knew what it was and that it's not needed, but not sure about 99% of Samsung stuff. Some Samsung apps on the phone I don't even know what they are and when I start them it just prompts to agree to some terms before starting the app... I'll have a look around for a Samsung debloat list
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If you have the unlocked version, they allowed uninstall for a lot of apps that were previously locked. A lot can also be downloaded later from Google Play or the Galaxy Store if you change your mind.
I use Firefox, so I uninstall Samsung Internet and Chrome. Members and Health are two big ones that like to run those "please enable us" services. It's a lot of deciding what you might use versus what you can live without.
Another good idea is to add anything you won't use, but didn't remove to deep sleeping apps to kill it's ability to run in the background. It's the closest thing to auto start management without rooting.
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twistedumbrella said:
Another good idea is to add anything you won't use, but didn't remove to deep sleeping apps to kill it's ability to run in the background. It's the closest thing to auto start management without rooting.
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Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow
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Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow
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Thank you for taking the time, mine is also going down %30 overnight. would love to hear about your result.
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Thank you for taking the time, mine is also going down %30 overnight. would love to hear about your result.
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So far I don't have much hope sadly. Whole day currently at home and not using the phone much and it's looking like in the screenshot (screen off, loosing almost 2.7% per hour, as comparison my OnePlus is at 0.9% per hour)
https://imgur.com/RLITZwQ
It's 21:21 at the moment and I'm at 54% after 9h 42m (comparison OnePlus with 815mAh more: 7% after 79h with 2h54m SOT)
https://imgur.com/M9zO2hV
I'll probably head to bed in a few hours and then report back tomorrow morning how much I lost during the night..
I'm not claiming to have amazing battery life, since I almost considered keeping my trade-in and returning this one over it. I am interested why it is so bad for others, though.
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I'm not claiming to have amazing battery life, since I almost considered keeping my trade-in and returning this one over it. I am interested why it is so bad for others, though.
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HOLY **** I would love to have this battery life. I'm literally not doing anything with the phone and just loosing so much. I'm pretty much the opposite of a power user, so my phone is in standby most of the time and loosing so much is pretty frustrating.
EDIT: I might have an idea why it's so bad for me, I don't really have reception in my apartment (as you can see on my screenshots), so I assume it's constantly trying to get better receptions, I see 2 bars sometimes, but most of the time 0. I'll keep my phone at the window where I have reception for the rest of the day and see if it makes a difference. (Although the OnePlus has also bad reception, but does have a different carriers SIM card)
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Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow
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Dependencies, dependencies, dependencies... some of those apks just sit there unless needed.
Do not disable apks/services unless you know what they do and what, if any, their dependencies are. Go too far and you'll end up in a boot loop.
What works for others probably isn't ideal for you.
Package Disabler is a better option as you easily toggle apks on/off as needed.
Screen off the serial offenders tend to be Google backup Transport, Framework and any cloud apps.
Try disabling Google play Services at night and see if that helps. You may need to disable Find my Device first as System Administrator if disable is greyed out.
Disabling play services also kills Gmaps and Playstore which are know hogs. Gmail as well to a lesser extent.
Google Firebase, do you need it? If not disable.
Carrier, Google, Samsung and app feedback, disable.
Using power management can cause erratic behavior and not solve the problem. Treat each power hog on a case by case basis instead. It takes a lot longer but yields a cleaner, more stable setup.
Play with it, go through -all- the settings. It's actually quit fun to explore and almost impossible to crash and burn.
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