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The wake locks will never go. Ever.

Hello,
I am on ParanoidAndroid 4.4 and the battery drain is killing me. I have to charge my phone at least twice a day if I'm outside just because I'm scared of having my phone die on me. I was on stock 4.4.3 up until recently but the sudden wakelocks at random times would kill me so I switched to PA to at least have a few extras like Hover and its even worse now. I'm using ElementalX kernel now because of how amazing the battery life is supposed to be but I am almost crying :'(
I have noticed that if I turn WiFi off, the phone will go to sleep without any problems but turn it on and it'll stay up all night and all day draining the battery 2% every 5 minutes of use. It appears GoogleSearch is the culprit but I'd like some more help on this.
I have uploaded some screenshots if anyone could help me I would really appreciate it.
Thank you.
WakeLockDetector: http://i.imgur.com/oHHRxoE.png
BetterBatteryStats: http://i.imgur.com/C9VEYDx.png (the stats appear to be screwed a little after I turned WiFi off) Logs: http://pastebin.com/vrRpdDdm
Android Battery stats: http://i.imgur.com/hSCfvoa.png and http://i.imgur.com/iVEsVuX.png
EDIT:
I've charged my phone again after disabling Google Now and hibernating WhatsApp and Viber in Greenify. Here are some screenshots. It's still the same
System battery: http://i.imgur.com/qq0I0uc.png
GSam: http://imgur.com/1KIZjJp and http://imgur.com/6JcI1Zs

whisky_ said:
Hello,
I am on ParanoidAndroid 4.4 and the battery drain is killing me. I have to charge my phone at least twice a day if I'm outside just because I'm scared of having my phone die on me. I was on stock 4.4.3 up until recently but the sudden wakelocks at random times would kill me so I switched to PA to at least have a few extras like Hover and its even worse now. I'm using ElementalX kernel now because of how amazing the battery life is supposed to be but I am almost crying :'(
I have noticed that if I turn WiFi off, the phone will go to sleep without any problems but turn it on and it'll stay up all night and all day draining the battery 2% every 5 minutes of use. It appears GoogleSearch is the culprit but I'd like some more help on this.
I have uploaded some screenshots if anyone could help me I would really appreciate it.
Thank you.
WakeLockDetector: http://i.imgur.com/oHHRxoE.png
BetterBatteryStats: http://i.imgur.com/C9VEYDx.png (the stats appear to be screwed a little after I turned WiFi off) Logs: http://pastebin.com/vrRpdDdm
Android Battery stats: http://i.imgur.com/hSCfvoa.png and http://i.imgur.com/iVEsVuX.png
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Disable Google Now and Greenify it. If it's a system app, I recommend using a minimal gapps package. Like the one from my signature.
If that's still not good enough, Greenify WhatsApp and Viber. We need to see if they are the cause. I suspect something else is the issue, but let's rule out your top 3.
Oh I almost forgot. Thank you for posting a BBS log without being asked.

Aerowinder said:
Disable Google Now and Greenify it. If it's a system app, I recommend using a minimal gapps package. Like the one from my signature.
If that's still not good enough, Greenify WhatsApp and Viber. We need to see if they are the cause. I suspect something else is the issue, but let's rule out your top 3.
Oh I almost forgot. Thank you for posting a BBS log without being asked.
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Greenify won't allow me to hibernate it since its a System app and asks me to buy the donate package. Also, I'm on ART so Xposed doesn't work for me. Is there a workaround?

whisky_ said:
Greenify won't allow me to hibernate it since its a System app and asks me to buy the donate package. Also, I'm on ART so Xposed doesn't work for me. Is there a workaround?
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App Ops and nuke it's permissions.
Neither ROM nor kernel will help your battery life.

Lethargy said:
App Ops and nuke it's permissions.
Neither ROM nor kernel will help your battery life.
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Can't nuke permissions for System apps

whisky_ said:
Can't nuke permissions for System apps
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Then change it to a user app with Titanium Backup, etc lol. If you installed it from the Play Store it would be a user app, it's installed as a system app if it's flashed in a gapps package. Shouldn't have any problems moving it. You could also Greenify it for free if you did that..

Aerowinder said:
Disable Google Now and Greenify it. If it's a system app, I recommend using a minimal gapps package. Like the one from my signature.
If that's still not good enough, Greenify WhatsApp and Viber. We need to see if they are the cause. I suspect something else is the issue, but let's rule out your top 3.
Oh I almost forgot. Thank you for posting a BBS log without being asked.
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I've updated my post to add GSam stats for a little while after disabling Google Now and hibernating WhatsApp and Viber. Thanks for your time.

whisky_ said:
I've updated my post to add GSam stats for a little while after disabling Google Now and hibernating WhatsApp and Viber. Thanks for your time.
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You said you are on PA. You need to wipe system, reflash PA, then flash the Banks minimal gapps in my signature. Then download Google search from play store. Google Now is now user app and can Greenify it. After you do that, send another BBS log.
You will also need Nova launcher or similar. Banks gapps doesn't come with a launcher.

OK guys....look at this I found.
Last night I enabled the new "OK google from any screen" option, in Google settings, OK Google hotword detection.
Then after only after I woke up (didn't charge...I charged before bed) look what I saw....held awake time on Google search, which I've never gotten before.
So a couple hours ago I turned from any screen option off.....no more held awake time on search.
So guys with Google search out of control.....that might be the issue.
Too bad too....I liked that new feature, but Google gone messed it up.....again.

KJ said:
OK guys....look at this I found.
Last night I enabled the new "OK google from any screen" option, in Google settings, OK Google hotword detection.
Then after only after I woke up (didn't charge...I charged before bed) look what I saw....held awake time on Google search, which I've never gotten before.
So a couple hours ago I turned from any screen option off.....no more held awake time on search.
So guys with Google search out of control.....that might be the issue.
Too bad too....I liked that new feature, but Google gone messed it up.....again.
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Sadly, this is to be expected at this point.

I think like double tap to wake.... If it isn't on the low voltage core, like moto x always listening is, its never gonna be battery friendly. But people wanted....they got it...kinda. Better than having to be on a certain screen anyway. Just now audio in is listening to every sound it hears.

Any 5.1 ROM that doesn't have these Android System/OS/Kernel battery issues?

Before I begin I just want to say that I have been using Android for a while and understand wakelocks etc. I have already made sure none of my apps are causing wake locks by uninstalling them but it has made no difference.
Here are my GSam screenshots: http://imgur.com/a/1Cp9z#0
As you can see, Android System and Android OS are the culprits that are draining my battery, but the phone isn't "awake" when they are draining it, so I am not quite sure what is happening. There is no wake-lock but there is a lot of CPU usage for some reason,
Please ignore the average times shown by GSam at the bottom, I get nowhere near 5hrs screen time, I reset the histories yesterday so its not yet calculated average properly yet.
I have tried - Stock COS11S, the latest COS 12.1 and also CyanogenMod 12.1 nightlies and the recent snapshot and they all exhibit this issue even with no apps installed. Is there a ROM out there that has no issues with this stuff?
Thanks!

Same problem. No idea the solution. No matter what battery app I use to try and tell me what is going on, it's always just listed as "android system" or "system" that is draining battery. I didn't have this on sultan's build so I guess it's back to that.

I dont want to give yo spoilers...
you can try every rom here, every kernel, every mod...
it really up to your personal use... you do this 3 simple things and like me will reach 5, 6 hours SOT.
disable lte and go for EDGE
restrict privacy guards things on apps: keep awake, auto start, wake up... on every app you install
use your social network on browsers... installed apps use background...

expand battery life on Moto X Play 5.1.1

Hi there,
i was playing around now for some time to expand my battery life in our phone. Maybe some of you know this but i wanted to share my experience which helped me a lot with battery issues.
My main problem was the short standby time. Taking a look into the battery statistics always says my main battery drainers where external applications und the google (play) services. Taking a little more deeper looks says that my main battery drain seemed to be caused in the 'Mobilfunkschnittstelle aktiv' (mobile radio interface active?) entry. I had values of multiple hours here beeing active.
I usually disable the location services because i dont need them. Which can be different for you, of course. Also i usually play around with BetterBatteryStats and Autostarts app for analyzing and disabling various services. This time i skipped this and went across a xposed module in the web.
So, the simple trick for me was to flash xposed with twrp (root needed of course) and install the xposed MobileRadioActiveFix module.
After fixing this i now have a 4 days run time with at least 6 accounts syncing and a weather app and so forth. I didnt have that before on any other device. By the way: i'm not using my phone very often and i don't wont to say: 'i have the biggest', don't want to compete but only suggest giving it a try if you suffer from low standby time.
Regards.
A little PS: some other good xposed modules i'd like to suggest:
- GEL settings: to edit google launcher, eg. removing the google search bar and the homescreen grid
- Battery Percentage Text

are you on lollipop or MM ???
I am on lollipop and I had tried this module a while back it didn't work.
and are you on mobile data or WiFi ???... because with mobile data on ..radio active shows on my battery stats.
what is your SOT now ???

bablu048 said:
are you on lollipop or MM ???
I am on lollipop and I had tried this module a while back it didn't work.
and are you on mobile data or WiFi ???... because with mobile data on ..radio active shows on my battery stats.
what is your SOT now ???
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lollipop, as the title says
Usually i am on mobile data. And of course there is still some time on radio active in the stats but its way less then before. My first entry in the battery stats where 'google (play) service' with 15% or more. Second was a 'mail client' with 12% and other external apps. This all went better after installing the xposed fix. My first entry now is 'mobile standby'
My SOT is something around 5 hours. Please, dont forget: i really not using my phone very often. My main goal was extending the standby time.
My experience with other devices: depending on the quality of your signal strength your battery can vary heavily. But i guess, thats something you already know. I, btw. have a good 4g signal here.

aVe2000 said:
lollipop, as the title says
Usually i am on mobile data. And of course there is still some time on radio active in the stats but its way less then before. My first entry in the battery stats where 'google (play) service' with 15% or more. Second was a 'mail client' with 12% and other external apps. This all went better after installing the xposed fix. My first entry now is 'mobile standby'
My SOT is something around 5 hours. Please, dont forget: i really not using my phone very often. My main goal was extending the standby time.
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well cheers, we have the same goal. i used amplify+greenify then i uninstalled exposed and started testing how long i could extend battery on stock and doze+greenify. i have removed maximum google apps and i am constantly getting 1+hour of SOT for every 10% battery. i am on dual sim[one of it is roaming] and i am on mobile data. now i am gonna give exposed another shot, hope radiofix works this time.
'Mobile standby' is a problem i have tried to fix it many times but failed, it eats battery when i am on data which is always, if you find a solution please post it here.
you could disable background data for play services to squeeze more juice out of your battery and about mail app drain i suggest you take a look at F-Droid it's a collection of open source softwares.

aVe2000 said:
Hi there,
i was playing around now for some time to expand my battery life in our phone. Maybe some of you know this but i wanted to share my experience which helped me a lot with battery issues.
My main problem was the short standby time. Taking a look into the battery statistics always says my main battery drainers where external applications und the google (play) services. Taking a little more deeper looks says that my main battery drain seemed to be caused in the 'Mobilfunkschnittstelle aktiv' (mobile radio interface active?) entry. I had values of multiple hours here beeing active.
I usually disable the location services because i dont need them. Which can be different for you, of course. Also i usually play around with BetterBatteryStats and Autostarts app for analyzing and disabling various services. This time i skipped this and went across a xposed module in the web.
So, the simple trick for me was to flash xposed with twrp (root needed of course) and install the xposed MobileRadioActiveFix module.
After fixing this i now have a 4 days run time with at least 6 accounts syncing and a weather app and so forth. I didnt have that before on any other device. By the way: i'm not using my phone very often and i don't wont to say: 'i have the biggest', don't want to compete but only suggest giving it a try if you suffer from low standby time.
Regards.
A little PS: some other good xposed modules i'd like to suggest:
- GEL settings: to edit google launcher, eg. removing the google search bar and the homescreen grid
- Battery Percentage Text
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But most have already updated to MM. If it works then it's a good thing.
Sent from my XT1562 using Tapatalk

I found that disabling background data for affect apps seemed to help on 5.1, but this limits device experience.
I'm on MM now and usually get all day stand by and about 5 to 6 hours SOT. Today I have 5 hours of voice calls and 2 of SOT and am at 40% battery which isn't bad. Off charge at 5:30 am and it is currently 8:30pm. That's excellent for me. MM is a great update for battery on these phones.
Edit: I meant to say as well that the 5 hours of voice was over a Bluetooth headset. Pretty busy day

K.khiladi said:
But most have already updated to MM. If it works then it's a good thing.
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I am not sure about this. In europe its still not rolled out (at least not in germany).

aVe2000 said:
please delete
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Why

you can play with the values ​​of animation in developer options,
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Battery Drain?

Here are some of my GSAM stats on this Imgur link. I am worried I am dealing with lousy battery life and have to charge my phone once a day mid-day to get anything done. I was expecting 5-6 SOT and decent stand by battery life with Doze. Even with Airplane Mode and Wi-Fi, my phone's battery life drains a bit too. I did a cache wipe and dalvik cache wipe too.
I have the July Patch with stock T-Mobile software: Baseband G930TUVU3APG1
https://imgur.com/a/z11jw
Do I need to do a factory data reset of some sorts? Or wait for a new update, even though T-Mobile is taking their merry ole time with the August patch?

I had really bad, terrible battery life when i first got this week couple weeks back until i looked into it.
First i installed root on the phone, and started to uninstall unnecessary programs and bloatware that came with the phone. If you decide to install root, PLEASE follow the instructions to a point. I forgot to disable manual security updates and one week later, ran into the famous bootloop and had to start all over. Oh well, lesson learned and i learned
After i uninstalled several programs, i still noticed that i had better battery life but not great. I thought maybe it was my old house the reception "pinging" was the cause of it. After searching around, i was told to install "Wakelock Detector" App from the Play Store.
What this App does is that it will tell you which app that are installed on your phone, are causing to "wakeup" your device either by pinging out, or waking up the screen or whatever. After running the program and after a day of it surveying my phone, it found several programs being the cause. Mainly my email App. It was waking up the device, something like 43 times a day. After looking around the settings of the App, i had it setup to check for emails every 5 minutes. After adjusting several other programs, battery life is great.
Just today, i took my phone off the charger at 9am and here it is 10:43pm and my battery is sitting at 55% battery with medium use today.
Also look into system settings such as Account sync options, wifi searching and whatnot.
Hope this helps. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask away. I love to help out

Eighthourblink said:
I had really bad, terrible battery life when i first got this week couple weeks back until i looked into it.
First i installed root on the phone, and started to uninstall unnecessary programs and bloatware that came with the phone. If you decide to install root, PLEASE follow the instructions to a point. I forgot to disable manual security updates and one week later, ran into the famous bootloop and had to start all over. Oh well, lesson learned and i learned
After i uninstalled several programs, i still noticed that i had better battery life but not great. I thought maybe it was my old house the reception "pinging" was the cause of it. After searching around, i was told to install "Wakelock Detector" App from the Play Store.
What this App does is that it will tell you which app that are installed on your phone, are causing to "wakeup" your device either by pinging out, or waking up the screen or whatever. After running the program and after a day of it surveying my phone, it found several programs being the cause. Mainly my email App. It was waking up the device, something like 43 times a day. After looking around the settings of the App, i had it setup to check for emails every 5 minutes. After adjusting several other programs, battery life is great.
Just today, i took my phone off the charger at 9am and here it is 10:43pm and my battery is sitting at 55% battery with medium use today.
Also look into system settings such as Account sync options, wifi searching and whatnot.
Hope this helps. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask away. I love to help out
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Thanks, but what if I don't want to root whatsoever? I just want to keep stock for now. I heard the July update is causing battery issues for tons of folks?

nviz22 said:
Thanks, but what if I don't want to root whatsoever? I just want to keep stock for now. I heard the July update is causing battery issues for tons of folks?
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You could always use Debloater 3.90 to disable certain apps from running. Although this wont unistalled the apps nor will it free up any space, it will prevent them from running.
Did you check into the settings that I mentioned within the System settings or download Wakelock Detector? This will help you figure out and pin point the issue.
#rooton

Eighthourblink said:
You could always use Debloater 3.90 to disable certain apps from running. Although this wont unistalled the apps nor will it free up any space, it will prevent them from running.
Did you check into the settings that I mentioned within the System settings or download Wakelock Detector? This will help you figure out and pin point the issue.
#rooton
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I tried a few times in the past, but I always end up disabling stuff and it causes a headache. I only want to disable stuff like DT Ignite and T-Mobile anyways. I'll play with the settings. Didn't download the wake lock detector since it said root was better.

nviz22 said:
I tried a few times in the past, but I always end up disabling stuff and it causes a headache. I only want to disable stuff like DT Ignite and T-Mobile anyways. I'll play with the settings. Didn't download the wake lock detector since it said root was better.
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Two good guides from the main Samsung S7 are located here :
Debloater - Safe Apps to Disable
Battery Life Discussion
Although i wouldn't disable all the apps that the thread suggests, i did use it as a guide. Most of Tmobile and useless Apps are safe to delete.
There is a way to run WakeLock Detector without root but you have to be familiar running command prompts / ADB lines. I can walk you through it if you are interested. Not too complicated, but can be if you have never did it before.
#rooton

Eighthourblink said:
Two good guides from the main Samsung S7 are located here :
Debloater - Safe Apps to Disable
Battery Life Discussion
Although i wouldn't disable all the apps that the thread suggests, i did use it as a guide. Most of Tmobile and useless Apps are safe to delete.
There is a way to run WakeLock Detector without root but you have to be familiar running command prompts / ADB lines. I can walk you through it if you are interested. Not too complicated, but can be if you have never did it before.
#rooton
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I'll try those. Thanks.

Smart Manger was causing a huge drain for me. I disabled it with Package Disabler and drain was gone.
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Having bad battery life on Nougat? Check this.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------​What I have right now out of Doze are "Bluetooth MIDI Service", "Bluetooth Share", the "Clock" app and two other Clock apps.
I am not sure how effective is the method listed below after the last update. Stay tuned.​​
Also I think the current version of Facebook Messenger is draining too much battery.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------​Hello everyone,
when I bought my Zenfone 3 ZE520KL, I was amazed by it's battery life. I could easily get around 8 hours of SOT in a single charge with moderate usage. My device was running Android Marshmallow 6.0 out of the box, but performance wasn't as good. On Nougat, performance is much better and faster, also I used to get some lags and frozen screen, the capacitive keys also sometimes froze when I was charging my phone, but now I don't get issues like that as often as before. Interface is so much more appealing and I love it.
But what about battery life? I started getting around 5 hours of SOT.. which is still good, but not really close to 8 hours. I thought a lot about these 3 hours that were missing so I decided to start investigating. I wanted to share my findings with you so maybe you would know something that could help.
It's been two weeks since I have been testing out different things. The apps I used to do my research are:
Carat. What I love about this app is the process list. It shows exactly which apps and system processes are running in the background, so I can control them very easily.
Greenify. Thanks to the Carat app, I can see which apps continue running in the background, so I can use Greenify to hibernate them after I'm done using them. (Examples: Youtube, Snapchat etc.). Also I bought the Donation Package, and unlocked the other modes using adb commands (my device is not rooted).
BetterBatteryStats. This app is usually used to detect wakelocks. I limited the Google Calendar App from syncing so it doesn't use too much battery in the background. This app is paid in Google Play but you can get it for free from here.
What I did to get better battery life:
I excluded the services, that were always running in the process list from the Carat App from Doze. Apparently, the new Doze in Nougat gives us permission to optimize more system processes and services than before, which can backfire - Doze starts trying to kill processes that can't be killed, and this results in consuming more battery juice than saving it.
How to enter Doze settings and make the following changes:
Go to "Settings" > Select "Battery" > Tap on the three dots at the upper-right corner > Select "Battery Optimization" > Select "All Apps" > Find and tap on the Apps/Services/Processes I have listed below > Select "Do not optimize". The other apps and services should stay optimized.
The apps, processes and services that I removed from Doze are:
Android Services Library
Android System
ASUS Calling Screen
Bluetooth MIDI Service
Bluetooth Share
Camera
Clock
com.android.smspush
com.asus.keyboard
com.asus.shim
com.qti.qualcomm.datastatusnotification
com.qualcomm.qti.tetherservice
org.codeaurora.bluetooth
org.codeaurora.ims
com.qualcomm.qcrilsgtunnel
ICESound Service
Mobile Manager
MobileManagerService
System UI
Telecom Service
Telephony Service
ZenUI Keyboard
ZenUI Launcher
Some other apps that I'm using: Do It Later, Greenify, Messages, Nova Launcher, Timely, Weather.
Please do a full charge to 100% afterwards and check if the battery still drains as quickly as before. Your feedback will be greatly appreciated.
I am already starting to see improvement in my battery life. I was losing around 2% on Stand By and battery was draining fast when I was using the phone, but now I lost 0% on Stand By overnight and 10% for 1 hour of SOT (before this I was losing 10% for 30 min. of SOT). I am still trying to figure out which services exactly are causing the drain, when they are being optimized. Maybe the services, included in the Android System? (Check them from Settings > Battery > Android System > Included Packages). I deleted Facebook and Twitter apps and started using them from Chrome (almost the same thing, I quickly got used to that). Please check the updates below for more info and share your opinion or advice in the comments so we can all reach a better experience with this amazing smartphone.
Thank you for reading!
Update1: 6h30min SOT with 30% left (917mAh, 35%), but I will have to charge now. I have been messing with Doze a lot, maybe I'll get more clean results later. Progress has been made though, at least with my device.
Update2: Something interesting - my J-Score with the Carat app before and after starting this experiment: http://i.imgur.com/Q8u6HBD.jpg
Update3: There is a battery drain when making voice calls - 226mAh (7%) were lost because of 43 minutes long talk time.
Results were worse after testing with the second list removed, although there wasn't much draining with the screen on: SOT - 5h20min for 70% of battery (752mAh, 20%).
Update4: com.android.phone appears as a wakelock at BBS (Wakeups:8). Also 2h30 SOT for 30% used battery (100-70%~408 mAh). I'm updating the list and trying again.
Please note that my phone is updated to the latest firmware WW_Phone-14.2020.1703.28-20170410.
Update5: com.android.phone is still an active wakelock (Wakeups:14), but SOT is 2h34min for 30% used battery (100-70%~343mAh). At 30% battery left, SOT is almost 6hrs(28%~787mAh), Device Idle is at 10% (291mAh). The MobileManagerService is causing way too many wakelocks and is probably the reason for the high Device Idle battery usage.
Update6: MobileManagerService is no longer showing as a frequent wakelock. com.android.phone (Telephony Service - Wakeups:9) and com.google.android.apps.messaging are the most persistent wakelocks, other than that battery life is amazing at the moment. SOT is 2h45min for 30% used battery (100-70%~366mAh). I also had 27 min of talk time (4%~145mAh). At 30% left, I have 6h33min of SOT (32%~912mAh). Device Idle is again at 10% (292mAh). We are ready for the final test.
Update7: The results are quite interesting. After removing com.qti.qualcomm.telephonyservice from Doze, com.android.phone stopped appearing as a frequent wakelock at first, but now, at 70% it has 16 wakeups. SOT is 2h22min (100-70%~318mAh), so it's not better. I'm going to try a few more changes.
Update 8: I posted it as a reply here.
Update 9: I shouldn't have put Task Manager out of Doze, I get so much better battery life now. The update is ready, check it here.

Good post, thank you for investigating this, please let us know if you find more stuff or what exactly is responsible for it and an easy way of fixing.

1noob said:
Good post, thank you for investigating this, please let us know if you find more stuff or what exactly is responsible for it and an easy way of fixing.
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Hello! Thank you for your reply. I'm so happy I could help others and myself with this thread, but I also need to know if you are also seeing any difference. Please check here regularly!
Also, I'm guessing that when you put your system processes and services in Doze, you also decrease their performance, which causes battery draining, as they try to run normally and do their work. Doze is trying to prevent them from doing that. This is my conclusion, but only results will show if I'm correct. If you own yourself a Zenfone 3, please feel free to report if you experience any changes using my method.
Thank you and have a nice day!

Hi, thank you for the post. I have a zenfone 3 here and will try your method.

I'm trying it on ze520kl with marschmallow, it seems working fine. :highfive:

Do you remove the first and second list from doze ? or ate testing with only the second list now?
Nice findings btw

pedromms86 said:
Do you remove the first and second list from doze ? or ate testing with only the second list now?
Nice findings btw
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I have removed everything from both of the lists. It's still early to say but no major battery drain is noticed for now. Thanks!

bibbomio said:
I'm trying it on ze520kl with marschmallow, it seems working fine. :highfive:
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Awesome! :good:

Thank you so much for this article. Well written as well. I have applied the changes and so far no issues (it has been 6 h is). Will report once I have more history

I remove the apps from doze, and can say it really improve battery (test for one day)
thanks !

@Blackrose110 any news improvements after update3 ?

New update is released via OTA (~500MB).

pedromms86 said:
@Blackrose110 any news improvements after update3 ?
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Too early to say, also I got a weird wakelock, and lost 2% overnight. I lost the results (100-90%) after a restart. Now I'm going to update my phone and start again.
I had 8% used up on 43 minutes of SOT, and 2% lost on voice calls (100 and something mAh). I went to bed with 92%, I guess the other 2% were lost on that wakelock and the clock wakelock. These 2% were lost on equal intervals.
It's going to take a while, I'm just using my device normally. I don't have time to be on my phone all the time, also the battery is harder to drain now. At this point, I'm just trying to get better results.
Cheers!

pedromms86 said:
@Blackrose110 any news improvements after update3 ?
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Check again tomorrow!

RobinRo said:
New update is released via OTA (~500MB).
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Updating...

I don't think it is a good ideea to change Doze settings for system services like com.qualcomm.* or telephony*.
In theory, these services should be compatible with operating system and they should work as designed. I would focus on third-party apps who doesn't work well on Nougat.
Anyway, is just an opinion and i'm looking forward for updates

ci6i said:
I don't think it is a good ideea to change Doze settings for system services like com.qualcomm.* or telephony*.
In theory, these services should be compatible with operating system and they should work as designed. I would focus on third-party apps who doesn't work well on Nougat.
Anyway, is just an opinion and i'm looking forward for updates
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Hello ci6i, I also agree with you, and that's why I excluded all of them from Doze when I first tried this out. At the moment, I removed only those system services, that run in the background all the time. My goal is to find the least amount of system services and processes, that are causing battery drain when the phone is in use.
I am not saying that you should do exactly what I did. It's best if you try out yourself on your own device what works and what doesn't.
I also have only excluded from Doze apps that I use daily. But everyone is using different apps and it depends only on the developers to update them.
You can download Carat for free from Google Play and check the process list, it's very useful. The app itself doesn't use any battery.
Good luck!

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I am not saying that you should do exactly what I did. It's best if you try out yourself on your own device what works and what doesn't.
I also have only excluded from Doze apps that I use daily. But everyone is using different apps and it depends only on the developers to update them.
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I agree with you and i really appreciate your work Yesterday I've installed Carat after i read your first post and today i did new OTA update and cleared cache partition. Let's see how it works in the next few days.

What should I do next, guys? Remove other com.qualcomm/com.android/com.asus services or remove just MobileManagerService from Doze? I'm thinking about the second one, I'm curious to see if ti makes any difference. I think the results from the first test were the best, and the MobileManagerService was out of Doze as far as I remember. Might as well try and see what happens.
It's a bit hard to drain the battery these days, so updates might not be fast. Patience is key!

Yeahh final test!! Looking forward to the result