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Hi,
I ordered an additional USB-C cable off Amazon: Anker Usb-C to Usb3.0 to have a spare charging / data cable.
So, the first cable that arrived fit into the phone but slipped out at the slightest touch. Additionally, my PC did not recognize the MI4C in any useful way (no MTP, no MI PC Suite) - both work instantly with the original cable.
After contacting Anker support, they said the cable is faulty and immediately sent me a replacement.
The second cable fit into the phone much nicer. It sort of snaps into the socket like it should.
However, my PC still does not recognize it..
Charging seems to work with both cables.. .at least the phone detects that it gets power.
I'm puzzled now.. what is wrong with the phone and/or the cable?
Is the MI4C using some special standard that the cable doesn't support?
Which cables work?
Thanks
Jo
Hey Jo, i use the Anker USB C to USB 3.0 and it works fine withe the Mi-4c and the PC, no problems at all...
Regards
While on the subject... Do you think that Google engineer would approve of the USB cable supplied with our phone???
After reading all his reviews I bought the official Google USB C... I guess they got me...
Supovitz said:
While on the subject... Do you think that Google engineer would approve of the USB cable supplied with our phone???
After reading all his reviews I bought the official Google USB C... I guess they got me...
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No. Because its USB 2 technology and USB 3.1 adapter, like the new OnePlus X
ttv200 said:
No. Because its USB 2 technology and USB 3.1 adapter, like the new OnePlus X
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So the cable we have supplied with those phone can damage our phones or PC/laptop?
ermacwins said:
So the cable we have supplied with those phone can damage our phones or PC/laptop?
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"Leung adds that this won't have an affect on the OnePlus 2 itself as the handset doesn't support Type-C fast charging, and that the warning is more for owners of the Type-C compliant Nexus 6P, Nexus 5X, and Chromebook Pixel." from theverge . com
If you have Nexus or Chromebook with USB Type-C - don't charge him with Mi4C cable
Does anyone know about a good micro-usb to usb-c converter with an 56k ohm resistor?
i use the Anker and its working fine for me - you may buy one of this list rated with 5 stars
Any cable that is approved for Nexus 5X is good for the 4C?
Any USB Typ c "compliant to the Norm" cable will be OK. So i would say yes. But its not a issue if you use a non compliant cable only with mi4c. This will work because our phone throttles the current when being charged with 5V. But if you use it with other equipment later a non compliant cable may damage USB hubs, Laptops USB ports or PSUs. I will Not take this risk and would buy a compliant cable.
Gesendet von meinem Mi-4c mit Tapatalk
This is cheap and compatible I assume https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/3w5gth/usb_c_cables_for_180_just_tested_these_with/
Anyone can advice me an OTG cable from Amazon?
Andiii said:
Any USB Typ c "compliant to the Norm" cable will be OK. So i would say yes. But its not a issue if you use a non compliant cable only with mi4c. This will work because our phone throttles the current when being charged with 5V. But if you use it with other equipment later a non compliant cable may damage USB hubs, Laptops USB ports or PSUs. I will Not take this risk and would buy a compliant cable.
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Sorry, but I think I need it once more
The cable we that came with our MI4c phone can only be used with the MI4c phone - and might damage chargers, laptops etc. if we try to charge a "normal" USB-C compatible device (like the Nexus 5X phone) with this cable. Right?
However, using a standard, normal USB-C cable, like the Anker one mentioned earlier in this thread with work with MI4c phones and any other "normal" USB-C compatible device. Right?
I just want to be clear, and not fry anything that doesn't need to be fried, if you understand...
jonasb_dk said:
Sorry, but I think I need it once more
The cable we that came with our MI4c phone can only be used with the MI4c phone - and might damage chargers, laptops etc. if we try to charge a "normal" USB-C compatible device (like the Nexus 5X phone) with this cable. Right?
However, using a standard, normal USB-C cable, like the Anker one mentioned earlier in this thread with work with MI4c phones and any other "normal" USB-C compatible device. Right?
I just want to be clear, and not fry anything that doesn't need to be fried, if you understand...
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YES - thats absolutely correct ! You have understand it right.
Andiii said:
YES - thats absolutely correct ! You have understand it right.
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Thanks. That's good to know
I've been using the mi4c USB for file transfers on my laptop. Is that gonna be a problem?
ermacwins said:
I've been using the mi4c USB for file transfers on my laptop. Is that gonna be a problem?
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As I understand it, its only when 'Charging' devices that the cables you are using becomes important.
Real Type-C devices are USB 3.0 and can draw a lot more power than USB 2.0 devices.. So their cables need a higher rated resistor to protect your devices.
The Mi4C is a USB 2.0 Device with a Type-C connector, hence any cable should be fine as USB 3.0 is backward compatible. But if you use the Mi4C Type-C cable to try and charge a Nexus 6, Lumia 950, Pixel or Mac Book it could fail and damage your device.
I guess that explains why it would barely charge when left connected to my laptop.
I am planning to get a cable .What is the consensus? Which one should I buy?
the_hustler said:
I am planning to get a cable .What is the consensus? Which one should I buy?
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Same here. I'm confused because there are many unknown brands and the price range is wide.
HELLO GUYS
i just got the tronsmart quick charger and remax type c cable
i see that its charge my xiaomi mi4c a little bit faster then the original one but theres not big diffrence
i tried on my girlfriend lg g4 and the charging is really fast
i think that xiaomi has built in limit for the charging
any idea what to do to skip that limit?
Until xiaomi releases kernel source code and a custom kernel is developed, nothing can be done about the charging limits (which is true and tested). I used the same charger to charge my HTC M8 and it has quick charge compared to the M8 original charger.
Sent from my Mi-4c using xda premium
There's a good reading material here: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/charging-analysis-between-oneplus-2-and-xiaomi-mi-4c.387573/
I'm not sure whether it's kernel controllable or not, but even if yes, we need the kernel source to modify it.
barschtalman said:
HELLO GUYS
i just got the tronsmart quick charger and remax type c cable
i see that its charge my xiaomi mi4c a little bit faster then the original one but theres not big diffrence
i tried on my girlfriend lg g4 and the charging is really fast
i think that xiaomi has built in limit for the charging
any idea what to do to skip that limit?
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From what I have understood, the original cable that came with the MI4c is a modified Micro-USB type B cable, and not a "real" USB-C cable. So your (and my) MI4c phone draws a maximum of 5V~2A from the original charger and the standard USB-C cable, whereas the LG G4 draws a maximum of 20V~5A from the USB-C cable. This means that the LG get more power, faster from the USB-C cable you bought, and therefore gets charged faster - and you will not notice a big difference when using the USB-C cable, as your phone only draws the mentioned 5V~2A.
Do yourself a big favor, and throw away your original cable from Xiaomi, as it might potentially break your charger, laptop etc. if you use it in your girlfriends phone!
G4 does not have USB Type c cable.
Sent from my Mi-4c using Tapatalk
The-Albatross said:
G4 does not have USB Type c cable.
Sent from my Mi-4c using Tapatalk
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Good to know... I just assumed there was USB-C type cable to the G4 as OP apparently were able to charge the phone with a USB-C type cable.
OP must have mixed up the model name of the phone, then.
Hi, I tried an Anker and Aukey quickcharge wall charger with some issues...I used till now the original battery charger with its usb cable. I usually charge the phone turning it off... When it gets to 100% I unplug the phone and then turn on .. that's normal ok... But I noticed that using another compatible charger that uses Qualcoom 2.0 quick charge technology.. once the phone gets 100% and I unplugg the charger my phone boots by itself.. Why does it happen with this charger and not with the original one???
Anyone, find a longer type C cable to replace the one shipped with our Mate 9? I just purchased a 2 meter cable from Bestbuy that was certified fast charge but it does not show up as Supercharge when charging. I noticed that our cables actually have 5A molded into the cable at the type C end and the one I purchased from Bestbuy was rated at 3A. I Googled but could not find anything. Just wandering if anyone else has found anything.
Thanks, Dhatw.
Looking for this myself for a while now. Actually I'm looking for any charger that supports the super charge feature, regardless of length.
Be careful if ordering off of Amazon, I bought one that was supposedly an OEM Huawei Mate 9 charger, but it wasn't. Slow charging...
I believe I read that Supercharge connectors have extra pins that aren't on a standard type-C cable, so you may need proprietary cables.
None of my longer usb c cables supercharge.
Not horrible speed though, about the same speed of my nexus 6p with quickcharge.
dhatw said:
Anyone, find a longer type C cable to replace the one shipped with our Mate 9? I just purchased a 2 meter cable from Bestbuy that was certified fast charge but it does not show up as Supercharge when charging. I noticed that our cables actually have 5A molded into the cable at the type C end and the one I purchased from Bestbuy was rated at 3A. I Googled but could not find anything. Just wandering if anyone else has found anything.
Thanks, Dhatw.
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One of the very unfortunate parts of having this SuperCharge technology is that only Huawei's cables and chargers will work with it. I have seen some on Aliexpress, but I don't think they were longer than the original. I've also never found the car charger for sale.
I agree that a "regular" type C fast charge cable is not too bad as far as charging speeds. I just didn't want to mess anything up and also would like to get all that I can from my phone and charger. I emailed Huawei to ask them if they have a longer cable but don't expect a positive reply if at all.
Dhatw.
This is the first phone with Supercharge. With the P10 about to come out, and probably more, perhaps Supercharge accessories may become a little easier to come by before too long, due to increased demand/market.
Where do most people place their supercharge? I find that when I do need to fast charge, it's either at work or while I am away from home. At home, I just leave it on the charger over night, so I do not see a need for it to be at home. Also, I heard that leaving it on supercharge over night could eventually cause a quicker wear and tear on the battery as opposed to just standard charging?
Anyone else do the same thing?
I have mine at home for when I need a quick charge, but I normally use slower chargers, as I believe it's better for the battery. I also normally only charge to about 90% or so, and don't let it get below about 40%, unless I know I'm going to need a full charge. I most commonly need a quick charge in the car, but that doesn't seem to be available yet.
SuperCharge ONLY works with the Huawei charger brick, and Huawei USB A to C cable.
With that said, USB PD works with this device quite well. My Pixel XL charger actually puts more current/power into the Mate 9 than it does my Pixel XL! Measured at the wall, the Pixel XL maxes out at about 18W... the Mate 9 hits 20W. It's not as good as SuperCharge, but it's close. There aren't too many reputable, good type C chargers available right now, so your best bet is to buy the charger on the Google Store for $35 that comes with a quality 6 foot USB C cable as well. I personally have Apple's 6.6 foot/2M cable as it is the longest/best charging cable for type C you can buy right now at $19.
Nitemare3219 said:
SuperCharge ONLY works with the Huawei charger brick, and Huawei USB A to C cable.
With that said, USB PD works with this device quite well. My Pixel XL charger actually puts more current/power into the Mate 9 than it does my Pixel XL! Measured at the wall, the Pixel XL maxes out at about 18W... the Mate 9 hits 20W. It's not as good as SuperCharge, but it's close. There aren't too many reputable, good type C chargers available right now, so your best bet is to buy the charger on the Google Store for $35 that comes with a quality 6 foot USB C cable as well. I personally have Apple's 6.6 foot/2M cable as it is the longest/best charging cable for type C you can buy right now at $19.
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Is that safe tho? I know there was a story the htc 10 was charged with a nexus charger and it made the phone incredibly hot.
aknotts415 said:
Is that safe tho? I know there was a story the htc 10 was charged with a nexus charger and it made the phone incredibly hot.
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I haven't noticed any issues. The phone doesn't really get warm either. This is using an e-marked (chipped) cable as well, so if it fails, it's Huawei's fault for breaking USB spec.
Has to be a certain gauge or something for this cable.
A few popped up on Amazon, anyone tested any of these longer cables out?
intruda119 said:
A few popped up on Amazon, anyone tested any of these longer cables out?
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Give me links and I'll buy them to test.
stevenkelby said:
Give me links and I'll buy them to test.
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Try this. It's USB C PD and comes with a 6 feet cable. I ordered one too.
FlyHi 30W Type C PD Wall Charger with Foldable Plug Output 5V 3A/9V 3A/15V 2A/ 20V 1.5A with 6.6ft (2M) USB C To C Charger for Macbook 12 Inch,Google Nexus 6P,Nexus 5X and so on(White) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FUDZHT0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_o0BQybN37GPCV
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A few popped up on Amazon, anyone tested any of these longer cables out?
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guapinoy said:
Try this. It's USB C PD and comes with a 6 feet cable. I ordered one too.
FlyHi 30W Type C PD Wall Charger with Foldable Plug Output 5V 3A/9V 3A/15V 2A/ 20V 1.5A with 6.6ft (2M) USB C To C Charger for Macbook 12 Inch,Google Nexus 6P,Nexus 5X and so on(White) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FUDZHT0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_o0BQybN37GPCV
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Thanks, order placed. I expect it will fast charge, but not supercharge.
I bought a couple of these on AliExpress, they look excactly the same (so they are 'short') and they do work with SuperCharge, very happy with them!
I think you would need a REALLY REALLY thick cable if you want to charge with 5 A and have a longer cable.
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Thanks, order placed. I expect it will fast charge, but not supercharge.
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I got mine yesterday. Seems to fast charge. So no real difference from super charge. The 6 foot C to C cable seems solid.
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I got mine yesterday. Seems to fast charge. So no real difference from super charge. The 6 foot C to C cable seems solid.
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Thanks, can you download Ampere and check out the actual charging current with the phone in airplane mode, screen brightness at minimum and the battery at 50%?
Stock cable should give about 4300-4400mA
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere
Hi,
I understand that the "Supercharge" charger is different to my Samsung charger (for example) as it supplies 40w, however can anyone tell me, is the supplied "Supercharge" type C cable any different from a normal type C USB cable.
I have a few expensive Anker corded type C tables, and I don't want to replace these if there is no difference between the "Supercharge" cable, and the normal type C cable.
Thanks!
I guess there is a difference between cables. I get "Super charging" with the original cable only. With all my other cables, phones says "Charging".
The cables are 5A cables. Most cables you find are not rated 5A. I bought a bunch of them in China and they works with other phones just fine.
Hi,
As told by previous posts, huawei fast charge 22W or 40W (maybe more with upcoming m30pro) only works with 5A compatible AND certified cables.
They're can be identified with the 'purple' color inside the connector - like the 'blue' in the 'fast usb DATA' standard 3.0 or above cables.
Usually they're (5A ones) also compatible with other 'quick charge' technology like samsung, etc.. except oneplus.
I've bought a bunch of them in China for good price (~2 or 3 usd) but be careful to check the 5A certification and avoid low-cost, it do not worth it... They'll not gonna worked or if...they'll be warm, hot or burn soon enough to regret the so little spared money between the certified ones.
The longest certified one I bought is 1,5m.
I looked for a 2m, but not working, but the cable sucked too.
May be a good fabric will do.
But keep in mind that for that kind of heavy intensity charge tech, size does matter... LoL... the shorter the better [emoji849]
I may wrong but the PD certified cables, v2 or v3 at least, could also work, because they aim to support 60W or 100W for the top quality ones.
But need to be checked.
Cheers
Edit : except it is a 'need' for 'now', I advise to wait for 2020 to renew your 'cable management library' with the USB 4 (if something change with this release) cables which will spread worldwide soon next year !!
Tapa'DoC'eD
I dont know about "certified" but all of my 5A cables work for supercharging.
I got this 2m one and it works fine.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NZB194V
I personally don't like fabric coverings as it feels like it will wear out faster.
I meant 'certified' like the 'build for' in a tech way, not like some others like lighting or hdmi which stand for 'have paid the taxes to be able to...'
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Thanks for the share.
The bought 2m one was just marked as 'work with' and of course received without the 'purple' connectors, and no fast charge. marketing ≠ technique. I'll take a look at your link.
Cheers
Tapa'DoC'eD
Thanks guys!
Yeah, find it weird that the Huawei cables don't allow a OnePlus phone to quick charge...
I thought we were supposed to be steering away from this rubbish.
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I dont know about "certified" but all of my 5A cables work for supercharging.
I got this 2m one and it works fine.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NZB194V
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Do they really super charge or just regularly charge?
The main reason for doubting is that Huawei already complains about compatible USB headset which isn't from Huawei. I would guess they could easily filter out if the cable is Huawei or not. The USB cables provide some information (or IDs) which the interface could read. Therefore I would guess Huawei is filtering out what belongs to them and what not. If they do it on the headset why not as well on the charging cables?
Anyway... The q remains: Does it really work?
Yes really. It says supercharging on the screen and it charges my phone in an hour vs several hours
This cable works for sure
Got it recently and it does supercharge.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07HJ2MQYC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Yes really. It says supercharging on the screen and it charges my phone in an hour vs several hours
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This cable works great, Baseus USB-C SuperCharge 40W Quick Charge 3.0 QC 3.0 (CATZH-BV1) :
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32974845755.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.538d6594mkE27o&algo_pvid=ce9b0310-c9a2-4434-91a5-4b603fab78db&algo_expid=ce9b0310-c9a2-4434-91a5-4b603fab78db-11&btsid=f7186254-35ee-4217-bc98-c7c6875087d6&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1,searchweb201603_55
I got 200cm long and SuperCharge without any problem.
My Poco F2 Pro charges fine (and very fast) with a USB-C to USB-C cable connected to a USB-C fast charger such as a Samsung. But if I try to charge it with a USB-A to USB-C cable connected to any charger, the phone only draws 0.5A ( I have a USB power dongle to check this ) and that's not fast enough to actually keep the phone charged when in use.
Every other phone I've tried will at least draw over an amp, even those which support fast charging.
I've tried multiple chargers, multiple cables, and nothing except C-C with fast charging will actually charge the phone.
Is this normal behaviour for the phone, or do I have a fault with mine. (It was bought second-hand with a warranty, but no charger or cable in the box).
No it's not normal, mine charges at least at QC3 speeds with various compatible chargers, powerbank and cables. Even with Huawei's fast charger, which seems not to be fully compatible, it charges about 2A (measured in accubattery).
It has a strange behavior if it's like that. What about original cable and charger, that's A to C, should charge very fast.
I had another issue regarding charging, whichever charger/cable I was using (let's say max 5V/2A), in accubattery it was measured around 3A, and the charger would overheat like crazy. You know when you want to charge slower, all what they tell you on the web is to use a less powerful charger... and this is what I did, but not with great results though. On my previous phone it was working just fine. On my wife's Mate20Pro it's also working well, but not on F2Pro. Even if the cable was rated 3A and I would connect it to the original charger, it would still draw 5A from it... Only way to solve it was AccA apk so I limit the current that the phone draws and I'm happy.
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It has a strange behavior if it's like that. What about original cable and charger, that's A to C, should charge very fast.
I had another issue regarding charging, whichever charger/cable I was using (let's say max 5V/2A), in accubattery it was measured around 3A, and the charger would overheat like crazy. You know when you want to charge slower, all what they tell you on the web is to use a less powerful charger... and this is what I did, but not with great results though. On my previous phone it was working just fine. On my wife's Mate20Pro it's also working well, but not on F2Pro. Even if the cable was rated 3A and I would connect it to the original charger, it would still draw 5A from it... Only way to solve it was AccA apk so I limit the current that the phone draws and I'm happy.
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Unfortunately I don't have the original charger and cable as it was a used phone which is otherwise in perfect working order. I've had no problems with c-c fast chargers, but nothring else works.
bilkusg said:
Unfortunately I don't have the original charger and cable as it was a used phone which is otherwise in perfect working order. I've had no problems with c-c fast chargers, but nothring else works.
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What ROM is on the phone right now? May I suggest going completely stock with MiFlash to rule out the software part?
bilkusg said:
My Poco F2 Pro charges fine (and very fast) with a USB-C to USB-C cable connected to a USB-C fast charger such as a Samsung. But if I try to charge it with a USB-A to USB-C cable connected to any charger, the phone only draws 0.5A ( I have a USB power dongle to check this ) and that's not fast enough to actually keep the phone charged when in use.
Every other phone I've tried will at least draw over an amp, even those which support fast charging.
I've tried multiple chargers, multiple cables, and nothing except C-C with fast charging will actually charge the phone.
Is this normal behaviour for the phone, or do I have a fault with mine. (It was bought second-hand with a warranty, but no charger or cable in the box).
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Just search and buy original charger if u want full charging speed, one guy made a great test of different chargers and different cables on this phone, check this here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/poco-f2-pro-charging-study-how-fast-does-it-charge.4189013/
There's something wrong with his device.
0.5 A is too low for any charger.