Storage limit for apps - General Questions and Answers

Hey, I remarked the excessive use of storage from many apps on my phone, such as Instagram (1.2GB), Tiktok (1GB)...
Does someone know how to limit the use of space for specific apps ?
I know that somehow, android tells the apps when there's no space left
Maybe someone can clone this functionality to fool the app

Why would you install those junk apks at all?
It's just asking for trouble... security risk.
If it can't run in the browser, ditch it☠☠☠

blackhawk said:
Why would you install those junk apks at all?
It's just asking for trouble... security risk.
If it can't run in the browser, ditch it☠☠☠
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Well... I need them to keep in contact with my friends, that's why, and they are taking much place for nothing

Every app allocates itself storage space it needs to get first run, then it may increase this storage space at any time.With regards to so-called Social Media apps: The more you use such an app, the more space the app takes up on your phone, unless you clear the cache of such an app.

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[Q] Apps to SD

Refering to this post Apps to SD, I have some doubts.
1. Is this similar to the 2GB inaccessible partition on Nexus S ?
2. Is that partition ext3 ?
3. Do apps get installed directly on that and I don't have to install apps on sd as explained in that post ever ?
4. If no, will creating partition and installing apps on it slow down the phone ?
I installed lots of apps from market yesterday so thinking of these things as I have read that installing many apps may slow down the phone.
please clarify my doubts
Have you gone to Settings, Applications and checked how much of your internal memory you're actually using? There's a little bar graph at the bottom of the first screen.
I've got over 130 apps installed and still have almost 600mb free. For most users, on the NS, app storage space isn't going to be a concern. We've got 1gb internal for that.
Also, many apps can be pushed to your sdcard without any hacks required.
The old school apps2sd involves repartioning your sdcard, formatting part of it ext4, then creating symlinks to move apps to the sdcard.
Seems like a lot of work unless you're really short of space already.
All partitions on the internal storage space are ext4 or yaffs2...no ext3 on the NS stock,
Thanks. So I shouldnt be really about that
But will installing many apps slow down my phone ? How do I stop some apps from starting automatically in the background ?
suhas_sm said:
Thanks. So I shouldnt be really about that
But will installing many apps slow down my phone ? How do I stop some apps from starting automatically in the background ?
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I wouldn't worry about it until it becomes a problem, if you know what I mean. If you install a lot of BIG game applications that don't let you move to sdcard from the Applications manager, you might start to run out of room, but I've only seen one person in this forum state that he was filling cramped, and he has 300+ apps, including large games if I recall correctly.
Having a bunch of apps installed should not slow down your phone just because they're installed.
If a bunch of them are active in the background either intentionally or not, that might cause some slow down, but it's just not a real problem on Android 2.2+ in my experience.
Android's memory intentionally loads apps up in advance so they're ready and waiting when you want to use them. They usually just sit there using zero cpu until you give them something to do. It is best to avoid TASK KILLERS, they will screw you up more than help you in general.
If you really feel the need to stop certain apps from being loaded automatically at the phone's discretion, there's an app called AutoStarts in the Market that lets you block apps from loading automatically. There are other apps like that one. They require you to be rooted to use them.

Deleting apps--are there residual files that slow down Android over time?

Deleting apps--are there residual files that slow down Android over time?
On Windows, it is expected that PC users reformat every 6 months because their computers get inevitably slow down as a result of registries left over after uninstalling program as well as left over cache, etc.
Do Android users suffer a similar fate? Or is it clearcut that all apps (what about system apps?) and all their settings and related files are located in a single folder? Will uninstalling an app without any third-party app remove all traces of an app? Will it be as clean as an app dedicated to this purpose like Titanium Backup?
Lastly, are there ever any problems created by apps that claim they can move apps to an SD card? Maybe some files are left behind and not everything is transferred?
Thanks.
Residual files cleaner
mindstormer said:
Deleting apps--are there residual files that slow down Android over time?
On Windows, it is expected that PC users reformat every 6 months because their computers get inevitably slow down as a result of registries left over after uninstalling program as well as left over cache, etc.
Do Android users suffer a similar fate? Or is it clearcut that all apps (what about system apps?) and all their settings and related files are located in a single folder? Will uninstalling an app without any third-party app remove all traces of an app? Will it be as clean as an app dedicated to this purpose like Titanium Backup?
Lastly, are there ever any problems created by apps that claim they can move apps to an SD card? Maybe some files are left behind and not everything is transferred?
Thanks.
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I don't know if residual files can slow down your android, but if you are concerned about these, you can download "Clean Master" from the playstore. This app has a utility that scans your phone for residual files, then you can choose what to do with them; keep or delete.
Yea, I have that app and it was why I asked this question. On an unrelated note:
The app Clean Master claims it can extend battery life and device performance by killing apps--even offering a button to kill all apps. I thought killing apps was unnecessary since Android does this automatically when RAM is full and that killing apps manually actually drains battery life. What's the deal? Is swiping an app away from the Recent Apps List the same as killing an app? I currently do this often because the list is usually packed.
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mindstormer said:
Yea, I have that app and it was why I asked this question. On an unrelated note:
The app Clean Master claims it can extend battery life and device performance by killing apps--even offering a button to kill all apps. I thought killing apps was unnecessary since Android does this automatically when RAM is full and that killing apps manually actually drains battery life. What's the deal? Is swiping an app away from the Recent Apps List the same as killing an app? I currently do this often because the list is usually packed.
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swiping away the apps counts as closing the apps. as far as i know, there are also background processes running after you swipe away the apps. My recommendation is greenify ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737 ). this app will hibernate your open apps closing the background processes with them. then only thing is that... it requires root.

1.2gb of space available but cant install apps

Hi, i am tired and stressed from researching, i cannot find a solution to this problem and i have come here for professional help.
The problem, i was going to install a game(32mb) through google play, and when the download finishes i get the insufficient storage message which is weird considering i always watch and keep track of my storage space, so i clear some cache and decide to download and once again i get the message, this time i decide to delete useless stuff via CCleaner lite and delete useless apps, i download again, and no space message again, i checked my total available space and it says 1.2gb
id place some screenshots but i have another problem with phone that makes me unable to browse my phone via usb on pc's or laptops
im going to check this thread every day, i really need the help, thanks in advance.
A few things to keep in mind:
1. I wont keep uninstalling apps, it works but i cant uninstall important ones
2. I already deleted all of the cache. literally every solution i researched told me obvious stuff i have already done
3. I wont uninstall photos or files
4. Remember i have ''1.2gb of available space'' so no need to do any of the above
5. I acknowledge that sometimes phones might prevent you from downloading apps just to save some space for cache and app data
6. I have a sd card(2gb) but my phone doesnt have the option to move apps to external space and i cant force it even through root
7. I have android 4.0.4
8. My phone is rooted, but its kinda broken(''kingo'' root, not to be confused by ''king'' root), every time the phone restarts or turns off something makes the main root app(the ones that grants root permission to other apps) to get corrupted and not start up(crashes on start) making me having to reinstall it using a backup
1337Potato said:
Hi, i am tired and stressed from researching, i cannot find a solution to this problem and i have come here for professional help.
The problem, i was going to install a game(32mb) through google play, and when the download finishes i get the insufficient storage message which is weird considering i always watch and keep track of my storage space, so i clear some cache and decide to download and once again i get the message, this time i decide to delete useless stuff via CCleaner lite and delete useless apps, i download again, and no space message again, i checked my total available space and it says 1.2gb
id place some screenshots but i have another problem with phone that makes me unable to browse my phone via usb on pc's or laptops
im going to check this thread every day, i really need the help, thanks in advance.
A few things to keep in mind:
1. I wont keep uninstalling apps, it works but i cant uninstall important ones
2. I already deleted all of the cache. literally every solution i researched told me obvious stuff i have already done
3. I wont uninstall photos or files
4. Remember i have ''1.2gb of available space'' so no need to do any of the above
5. I acknowledge that sometimes phones might prevent you from downloading apps just to save some space for cache and app data
6. I have a sd card(2gb) but my phone doesnt have the option to move apps to external space and i cant force it even through root
7. I have android 4.0.4
8. My phone is rooted, but its kinda broken(''kingo'' root, not to be confused by ''king'' root), every time the phone restarts or turns off something makes the main root app(the ones that grants root permission to other apps) to get corrupted and not start up(crashes on start) making me having to reinstall it using a backup
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You have plenty of storage but that doesn't mean you have room for apps because apps are installed in /data partition, there is a difference. You have storage space but only a portion of it is allocated as space for apps, the rest is storage. You can repartition the device to give your /data partition more available space. Do not repartition your device unless you understand exactly what you are doing.
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Droidriven said:
You have plenty of storage but that doesn't mean you have room for apps because apps are installed in /data partition, there is a difference. You have storage space but only a portion of it is allocated as space for apps, the rest is storage. You can repartition the device to give your /data partition more available space. Do not repartition your device unless you understand exactly what you are doing.
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I know, but before i could keep installing apps until i had 200mb of space left for app storage, why would it be different now, i have a total of 2gb internal storage small i know, but still no reason to stop being able of installing apps at 1gb left, makes no sense, and i'll research about repartition carefully if there isnt another good answer to my problem
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I know, but before i could keep installing apps until i had 200mb of space left for app storage, why would it be different now, i have a total of 2gb internal storage small i know, but still no reason to stop being able of installing apps at 1gb left, makes no sense, and i'll research about repartition carefully if there isnt another good answer to my problem
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You might be full of app data from apps you've uninstalled, uninstalled apps can leave data behind, look in your Android/data folder. You might also be storing logs somewhere taking up space.
Have you used any apps to analyze your internal storage? It should tell you everything you have stored there, files sizes and locations.
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Droidriven said:
You might be full of app data from apps you've uninstalled, uninstalled apps can leave data behind, look in your Android/data folder. You might also be storing logs somewhere taking up space.
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It turns out there was an odex files messing with the instalation, when deleted them i could start installing again, sorry for the trouble and thanks for the help!

Too much Google

My Galaxy A6 Tab is rapidly running out of memory because it's full of Google Play Store etc apps which I don't use.
Is there anyway to get rid of those?
enable ADB then remove all bloatwares, you can search Google with these keywords: How to Uninstall Bloatware and System Apps without Root in Android
Mike McGinnis said:
My Galaxy A6 Tab is rapidly running out of memory because it's full of Google Play Store etc apps which I don't use.
Is there anyway to get rid of those?
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You need root in order to do that, once you have root use any root app manager to uninstall unwanted apps (be careful when doing this)
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enable ADB then remove all bloatwares, you can search Google with these keywords: How to Uninstall Bloatware and System Apps without Root in Android
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Actually the adb method only hides the app from the user, so the apk is still here, and the space still filled. You answering his question was definitly appreciated tho, keep doing this
For preloaded ones you can remove any updates to cut down space used if not able to uninstall.
Blocking them will free up cpu cycles and bandwidth from these parasites.
Uninstall any Playstore crap you don't want.
If you uninstall a lot a reload a good idea.
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Actually the adb method only hides the app from the user, so the apk is still here, and the space still filled. You answering his question was definitly appreciated tho, keep doing this
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But since the (system) apps are on /system anyway, and the space are therefore inaccessible regardless, surely this doesn't matter much unless you're system-ising apps?
Just want a confirmation for this thought; years ago I used to outright delete system apps but after some reading it's probably of no difference space-wise and I just disable in adb instead
Pact said:
But since the (system) apps are on /system anyway, and the space are therefore inaccessible regardless, surely this doesn't matter much unless you're system-ising apps?
Just want a confirmation for this thought; years ago I used to outright delete system apps but after some reading it's probably of no difference space-wise and I just disable in adb instead
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Um no, AFAIK erasing the apk is freeing up space, they're under /system/apps and are counted as apps. I'm not particularly sure which partition it has an impact on
(wether the "Android system" or storage itself) but they take space regardless, and this space will decrease when erasing apks, oats, ...
Edit: Some research made me learn something, no gained space when erasing apks lads
Edit#2: Explaination in the post down there
Edit#3: Forgot to ping you @Pact
Directories as /system/apps & /system/priv_apps are part of /system partition what itself is of fixed size. Hence you gain no disk space what an other partition is automatically added when removing apps in /system partition.
IMO the only meaningful method to debloat a phone is to freeze unwanted apps thus any background activities triggered by them get suppressed.
App Freezer for Android - APK Download
Download App Freezer apk 1.0.6 for Android. Freeze unwanted app or package on Android (Samsung, Sony, Xiaomi, Huawei, etc)
apkpure.com
Take note that physically removing an app from /system partition can cause a boot-loop, unless verified-boot got disabled.

Impact of Large Amounts of SMS Messages on Phone? Management?

Hi all, I am wondering if having a large amount of SMS will slow down phone and how one would go about managing message amount yearly? I ask this as I am about to a move to a Note 10+ from a Note 9 with 68000k messages. I know that's a lot. How can one periodically backup old messages and have the ability to view them on another device (PC or not). Almost like if I remember texting someone from a long time ago, and want to look them up, I can go to this app and find it.
I have to believe 68K stored messages might makes things low, even though it doesn't take much storage space no?
Not sure why anyone would text so much but in your old age it will be quit an accomplishment.
Sex and drugs are more memorable though
You can have up to a 1 tb SD card so have no fear about preserving your legacy.
blackhawk said:
Not sure why anyone would text so much but in your old age it will be quit an accomplishment.
Sex and drugs are more memorable though
You can have up to a 1 tb SD card so have no fear about preserving your legacy.
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Lol I have no issue with saving the messages somewhere. I am asking if having that many slows down the phone?
The other is if I were to remove the old messages, can I load them from another app and view them?
edo101 said:
Lol I have no issue with saving the messages somewhere. I am asking if having that many slows down the phone?
The other is if I were to remove the old messages, can I load them from another app and view them?
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The 10+ running on Pie is a fast and very stable platform. I would avoid moving to Android 10 or 11 as you will lose functionality.
I can't speak for the text apps but I play movies and wav files stored on my SD card all the time.
Use the SD card as a data drive, and keep the apps on the internal memory.
The Lexar .5tb V30 card goes for $64 on Amazon and works right out of the box. Simply format in the phone first.
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The 10+ running on Pie is a fast and very stable platform. I would avoid moving to Android 10 or 11 as you will lose functionality.
I can't speak for the text apps but I play movies and wav files stored on my SD card all the time.
Use the SD card as a data drive, and keep the apps on the internal memory.
The Lexar .5tb V30 card goes for $64 on Amazon and works right out of the box. Simply format in the phone first.
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@blackhawk Wait... I lose features going from Android 10 to 11?!!!! WHAT? the update was forced on my 10+. I don't even think you can avoid them? Is there a thread that discusses issues with the update?
edo101 said:
@blackhawk Wait... I lose features going from Android 10 to 11?!!!! WHAT? the update was forced on my 10+. I don't even think you can avoid them? Is there a thread that discusses issues with the update?
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Well Karma Firewall losses it's ability to log and I use that daily.
Trusted overlay apps get the "security" ax too.
You lost these going to 10.
You can use a package disabler to block the updates carrier update apk or ask your carrier to disable on their end (they can).
Likewise Karma Firewall could probably block it but haven't tested that.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
blackhawk said:
Well Karma Firewall losses it's ability to log and I use that daily.
Trusted overlay apps get the "security" ax too.
You lost these going to 10.
You can use a package disabler to block the updates carrier update apk or ask your carrier to disable on their end (they can).
Likewise Karma Firewall could probably block it but haven't tested that.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
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what are trusted overlay apps? And what sort of security do they lose?
edo101 said:
what are trusted overlay apps? And what sort of security do they lose?
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"Trusted" meaning you trust them.
Apps like Douple Tap can't run on Q and above or need to enabled after each reboot.
Double Tap has no internet connection so I'm really not concerned about it being spyware... but big sister Google thinks I need protecting.
There's also more restrictions on apps being able to collect system and app data, like Pie wasn't already too restrictive. This makes monitoring apps almost impossible. Guessing instead of knowing.
And the worst for last: cpu cycle eating Scope Storage makes this Apple wannabe nightmare complete.
The biggest security threat on the phone is data mining Google, how fking ironic.
Google sucks.

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