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[Q] Apps to SD

Refering to this post Apps to SD, I have some doubts.
1. Is this similar to the 2GB inaccessible partition on Nexus S ?
2. Is that partition ext3 ?
3. Do apps get installed directly on that and I don't have to install apps on sd as explained in that post ever ?
4. If no, will creating partition and installing apps on it slow down the phone ?
I installed lots of apps from market yesterday so thinking of these things as I have read that installing many apps may slow down the phone.
please clarify my doubts

Have you gone to Settings, Applications and checked how much of your internal memory you're actually using? There's a little bar graph at the bottom of the first screen.
I've got over 130 apps installed and still have almost 600mb free. For most users, on the NS, app storage space isn't going to be a concern. We've got 1gb internal for that.
Also, many apps can be pushed to your sdcard without any hacks required.
The old school apps2sd involves repartioning your sdcard, formatting part of it ext4, then creating symlinks to move apps to the sdcard.
Seems like a lot of work unless you're really short of space already.
All partitions on the internal storage space are ext4 or yaffs2...no ext3 on the NS stock,

Thanks. So I shouldnt be really about that
But will installing many apps slow down my phone ? How do I stop some apps from starting automatically in the background ?

suhas_sm said:
Thanks. So I shouldnt be really about that
But will installing many apps slow down my phone ? How do I stop some apps from starting automatically in the background ?
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I wouldn't worry about it until it becomes a problem, if you know what I mean. If you install a lot of BIG game applications that don't let you move to sdcard from the Applications manager, you might start to run out of room, but I've only seen one person in this forum state that he was filling cramped, and he has 300+ apps, including large games if I recall correctly.
Having a bunch of apps installed should not slow down your phone just because they're installed.
If a bunch of them are active in the background either intentionally or not, that might cause some slow down, but it's just not a real problem on Android 2.2+ in my experience.
Android's memory intentionally loads apps up in advance so they're ready and waiting when you want to use them. They usually just sit there using zero cpu until you give them something to do. It is best to avoid TASK KILLERS, they will screw you up more than help you in general.
If you really feel the need to stop certain apps from being loaded automatically at the phone's discretion, there's an app called AutoStarts in the Market that lets you block apps from loading automatically. There are other apps like that one. They require you to be rooted to use them.

Incredible "must have" apps to get memory back.

FIRST: A WARNING
These apps require the phone to be rooted to be able to reach their full potential. And as they give you complete control over what to do, it's easy to get your ChaCha f****d up. So a backup with CWM Recovery is highly recommended.
We all know that the internal memory of the Chacha is low, and we are always struggling to have it controlled. Custom roms can make that memory to be really low when just installed, but continued use and trying apps make the memory to be filled with many files that are still there, even when you delete the app and the data associated to that app.
Many people likes to once a month or two, delete data and cache and start again, but for many of us, that's not an option because of the level of customization we have and must be repeated every time that operation it's done.
Enter these three apps, that well used can make you lower the used memory. They allows you to do a mix of regular manteinance and 'once in a while' operations.
AppCache Cleaner Makes easy to clear every day the cache files used by many apps like Market, Maps, Shazam!, and many others. Those cache files are secure and safe to be deleted. The app is easy to be set up and more easy to use. Also, an automatic clean every N time can be set.
SD Maid - System cleaning tool Makes the work of the previous app but with added functionalities, aimed to a less regular manteinance and deep clean. It can find corpses: data files of uninstalled apps that are there wasting space and many other things like log files, duplicated files... that are there making your ChaCha life harder. Some attention is required here because some operations, it not rightly done, can make you have a bad time because of deleting files you wanted not to delete, or that are essential files for your apps or system to run.
SystemCleanup This app is the most powerful of all and also the most dangerous. It has many of the features of the paid version of Titanium Backup, but for free. You can move apps from /system to /data, from /data to /system, odex and deodex them, move from/to sdcard, edit the autorun events they receive, freeze them, make backups... You can get rid of many of the bloatware the ChaCha comes with, and also decide what to do with those apps. The app itself give you directions on some apps that are safe to remove of required not to remove, but you are free to do what you want to with it, so attention must be put on what to do when using it.
I my self was able to remove about 60MB of useless stuff and the free memory jumped to a whopping 92MB of free memory after using them.
Take a look and have luck.

Titanium Backup ★ root - it allows You to "integrate app update to ROM" and save space in user storage.
Also it allows you to remove unused app from ROM and move "integrate" some aplications to ROM.
Most important would be app for recording Calls (both side), do Enyone know that software?

Deleting apps--are there residual files that slow down Android over time?

Deleting apps--are there residual files that slow down Android over time?
On Windows, it is expected that PC users reformat every 6 months because their computers get inevitably slow down as a result of registries left over after uninstalling program as well as left over cache, etc.
Do Android users suffer a similar fate? Or is it clearcut that all apps (what about system apps?) and all their settings and related files are located in a single folder? Will uninstalling an app without any third-party app remove all traces of an app? Will it be as clean as an app dedicated to this purpose like Titanium Backup?
Lastly, are there ever any problems created by apps that claim they can move apps to an SD card? Maybe some files are left behind and not everything is transferred?
Thanks.

Residual files cleaner
mindstormer said:
Deleting apps--are there residual files that slow down Android over time?
On Windows, it is expected that PC users reformat every 6 months because their computers get inevitably slow down as a result of registries left over after uninstalling program as well as left over cache, etc.
Do Android users suffer a similar fate? Or is it clearcut that all apps (what about system apps?) and all their settings and related files are located in a single folder? Will uninstalling an app without any third-party app remove all traces of an app? Will it be as clean as an app dedicated to this purpose like Titanium Backup?
Lastly, are there ever any problems created by apps that claim they can move apps to an SD card? Maybe some files are left behind and not everything is transferred?
Thanks.
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I don't know if residual files can slow down your android, but if you are concerned about these, you can download "Clean Master" from the playstore. This app has a utility that scans your phone for residual files, then you can choose what to do with them; keep or delete.

Yea, I have that app and it was why I asked this question. On an unrelated note:
The app Clean Master claims it can extend battery life and device performance by killing apps--even offering a button to kill all apps. I thought killing apps was unnecessary since Android does this automatically when RAM is full and that killing apps manually actually drains battery life. What's the deal? Is swiping an app away from the Recent Apps List the same as killing an app? I currently do this often because the list is usually packed.

Alternate solution
mindstormer said:
Yea, I have that app and it was why I asked this question. On an unrelated note:
The app Clean Master claims it can extend battery life and device performance by killing apps--even offering a button to kill all apps. I thought killing apps was unnecessary since Android does this automatically when RAM is full and that killing apps manually actually drains battery life. What's the deal? Is swiping an app away from the Recent Apps List the same as killing an app? I currently do this often because the list is usually packed.
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swiping away the apps counts as closing the apps. as far as i know, there are also background processes running after you swipe away the apps. My recommendation is greenify ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737 ). this app will hibernate your open apps closing the background processes with them. then only thing is that... it requires root.

[Q] Missing Space on System

Apparently there are a lot of people who have looked for help on this issue in various forms, so googling all day and looking around has not helped.
I have Android 4.0.4 and a Pantech Burst that has been rooted. I downloaded Titanium Backup and removed some programs that were perma installed by the manufacturer. I backed them up before I did this. Now the system drive shows I have a bunch of space free, 326MB out of 1GB. Using other apps I am not sure. "Drives" shows two internal storages "Data" which has 681MB used and 326MB free and "System" which has 464MB used and 77MB free. I assume these are both the internal partition.
Trying to install anything from the Play Store results in a 'insufficient space' except for some really small apps. Since I don't know exactly how much space I have to work with, I can only guess. Uninstalling some apps normally doesn't allow me to install new ones either. Sometimes the phone will just eat the space.
I tried restoring a app with Titanium Backup and it seems to have worked, however the app is no longer in my normal system 'apps' utility. So I can't modify it or uninstall it anymore.
The apps aren't backed up to the system storage, they're on external storage.
I tried clearing the dalvik cache and system cache, this didn't help or do anything.
Any sort of help would be great.

bensam123 said:
Apparently there are a lot of people who have looked for help on this issue in various forms, so googling all day and looking around has not helped.
I have Android 4.0.4 and a Pantech Burst that has been rooted. I downloaded Titanium Backup and removed some programs that were perma installed by the manufacturer. I backed them up before I did this. Now the system drive shows I have a bunch of space free, 326MB out of 1GB. Using other apps I am not sure. "Drives" shows two internal storages "Data" which has 681MB used and 326MB free and "System" which has 464MB used and 77MB free. I assume these are both the internal partition.
Trying to install anything from the Play Store results in a 'insufficient space' except for some really small apps. Since I don't know exactly how much space I have to work with, I can only guess. Uninstalling some apps normally doesn't allow me to install new ones either. Sometimes the phone will just eat the space.
I tried restoring a app with Titanium Backup and it seems to have worked, however the app is no longer in my normal system 'apps' utility. So I can't modify it or uninstall it anymore.
The apps aren't backed up to the system storage, they're on external storage.
I tried clearing the dalvik cache and system cache, this didn't help or do anything.
Any sort of help would be great.
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Bro.. Use link2sd app to move apps to system.
Or uninstall bloatware from system.

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Bro.. Use link2sd app to move apps to system.
Or uninstall bloatware from system.
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That's not really what's wrong. I'm not too familiar with android, but I'm pretty sure my volumes aren't reporting deleted space that is actually free. I tried a program like CleanMaster to try and fix it as well as App Cache Cleaner, but they haven't seemed to help even though they reported that they fixed quite a few things initially.

It seems like whenever I uninstall something if I go through the system and look at apps, it shows more free space available. However when I try to install something new, it still says 'insufficient space'. Somehow the free space is not being freed up or marked as free for the system.

I almost want to say Titanium Backup is not giving the freespace back to the system and is instead just marking it as free, but not for the system. If that makes sense. So the system can't use it.
I can use Titanium Backup to restore apps even though the system says I have insufficient storage when I try to reinstall them. I shouldn't be able to do this without free space available. However when I do this I can't see it in the market or in the normal settings > apps on the system and in order to reintegrate it I need the pro version of Titanium Backup. I think TB isn't playing nice with the rest of the system in order to get you to buy a pro version of it.
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Storage limit for apps

Hey, I remarked the excessive use of storage from many apps on my phone, such as Instagram (1.2GB), Tiktok (1GB)...
Does someone know how to limit the use of space for specific apps ?
I know that somehow, android tells the apps when there's no space left
Maybe someone can clone this functionality to fool the app

Why would you install those junk apks at all?
It's just asking for trouble... security risk.
If it can't run in the browser, ditch it☠☠☠

blackhawk said:
Why would you install those junk apks at all?
It's just asking for trouble... security risk.
If it can't run in the browser, ditch it☠☠☠
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Well... I need them to keep in contact with my friends, that's why, and they are taking much place for nothing

Every app allocates itself storage space it needs to get first run, then it may increase this storage space at any time.With regards to so-called Social Media apps: The more you use such an app, the more space the app takes up on your phone, unless you clear the cache of such an app.