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Hello, I am in search for an Android HU but every time this brings me a headache. I can't reach to a conclusion for which is best. I was looking for an Eonon GA2164 with 2GB ram which I think is MTCD but I do not know which MCU, and also that CPU seems very old.
Here in the forums I see that the best choice for now may be a MTCD with PX5 and 2GB ram. However I am looking for something "less Chinese" (joying, xtrons, dasaita, etc) and from EU warehouse so I can't buy from aliexpress or from the most sellers on ebay that ship from China. I need a HU with lots of unofficial support, full RCA outputs (front, rear, sub), analog steering wheel input and I prefer a physical volume knob instead of touch buttons.
Can you suggest something that I could check out?
Thank you!
PS: the xtrons TB706PL is PX5? If yes, the only downside I can find is that it only has touch buttons in the front, which is not good while driving...
I had a similar dilemma
I wanted PX5 HU due to Malaysk ROM >> not Joying
best would be HU from Dasaita, but they haven'ẗ EU warehouse
I finally chose TB706APL (PX5, 2GB RAM) from Xtrons due EU warehouse (but their official support is tragic)
I use the buttons on the steering wheel >> I don't miss the physical buttons on the HU
What do you mean by tragic support? You mean for the official FW updates? Or for warranty/returns, contacting, tech issues?
From what I have seen while I was trying to get answers for some headunits, I could easily consider Eonon's support the best (for tech issues and answering questions. Also for defective devices they accept returns at the EU warehouse!). Joying's support for updates seems good and also good for contacting them but they told me that if I have any problem with the unit, I have to sent it to China. But Eonon haven't released any new hardware, and Joying has Intel Sofia.
What about Intel Sofia? I have seen some threads here but I think there is not so much support as PX5. Am I right?
NikosPot said:
What do you mean by tragic support? You mean for the official FW updates? Or for warranty/returns, contacting, tech issues?
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I mean support on their forum >> when you have problem you must go to XDA forum
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What about Intel Sofia? I have seen some threads here but I think there is not so much support as PX5. Am I right?
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I don't know about an alternative ROM for Intel Sofia, but maybe I'm wrong
I think that on XDA is more support for PX5
Thanks for the info, this unit seems very nice, even with the stock rom as I can see in videos.
May I ask you some questions about this device?
1) In the official store I see TB706PL. Not TB706APL. Are those the same?
2) Because I can't find installation manual in their website so I can't see what cables are on the back side, is there any cable for brightness dimming when turning on the lights? The Night Mode setting depends on the clock's hour, or when you turn on the lights it dims the display to the pre-set Night Mode level?
3) Have you tried to connect OBD2 reader? I have a vGate OBD so I do not want to buy xtrons... Does it support 3rd party OBD, or just the xtrons?
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I found some schematics on the net and I can see that the xtrons unit doesn't have any ILL (illumination) cable for dimming, SW (steering control), Reverse control.... How do you connect steering wheel resistance based cables? And reversed camera control cable for enabling it when you go in reverse?
+1 for hotaudio.. seems to be the only active manufacturer on here
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hmm yeah Dasaita seems nice, and also has for my vehicle a 10.1 inch PX5 unit ready to install on my car like OEM appearance.
Tha official store is in aliexpress only? Damn I can't buy from China so expensive item... These months in my country, customs are going crazy! That is why I need EU warehouse.
But between Joying, xtrons, eonon there is no unit that seems to have everything I want! Every one of them has pros and cons.
And now I just realize that maybe I posted in the wrong forum, because now I am talking generally for headunits and not just for MTCD. haha but anyway firstly I wanted to find out which MTC /MCU is more supported and is more future proof (faster CPU, more RAM). So we are concluding to PX5 2GB? Are all of the PX5 chipsets in the MTCD category? Only the MCU are different between the manufacturers?
NikosPot said:
Thanks for the info, this unit seems very nice, even with the stock rom as I can see in videos.
May I ask you some questions about this device?
1) In the official store I see TB706PL. Not TB706APL. Are those the same?
2) Because I can't find installation manual in their website so I can't see what cables are on the back side, is there any cable for brightness dimming when turning on the lights? The Night Mode setting depends on the clock's hour, or when you turn on the lights it dims the display to the pre-set Night Mode level?
3) Have you tried to connect OBD2 reader? I have a vGate OBD so I do not want to buy xtrons... Does it support 3rd party OBD, or just the xtrons?
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I found some schematics on the net and I can see that the xtrons unit doesn't have any ILL (illumination) cable for dimming, SW (steering control), Reverse control.... How do you connect steering wheel resistance based cables? And reversed camera control cable for enabling it when you go in reverse?
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I don't use stock ROM from Xtrons, I use Malaysk ROM
point 1 - they renamed this unit from TB706APL to TB706PL, in my order was TB706APL, but I do not see any difference
point 2 - in my country is mandatory daytime running lights, so I did not look for something that, I'm sending a wiring diagram, maybe you'll find it there, I'm not sure how this is solved
point 3 - i have old OBD2 reader from China ($4-5) and it works, but Its name must be OBD (OBD2), I ordered in China the second piece because I could not find the original before, If it will have the correct name, I can send a link
point 4 (edit)
- ILL (illumination) cable for dimming - in wiring diagram number 13 - now i find, I forgot to connect it (I have to fix it, thank you )
- SW (steering control) - i have steering control with two cables, first is pointed to KEY1 (number 3) and second to ground (number 15)
- And reversed camera control cable for enabling it when you go in reverse? - number 5 (CAM-IN) for video cable, number 6 (CAM-LINE) for cable connected to return light - when reverse gear is selected, the rear camera automatically turns on
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I don't use stock ROM from Xtrons, I use Malaysk ROM
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Wow thank you for that! Yesterday I found a wiring that didn't show all that.
So now if you connect the ILL to your light switch I think that the HU will dim when you turn on the switch. DRL maybe doesn't matter, they are turned on without the light switch being on. (can't be 100% sure because I do not have in my car) Maybe the OEM connector on your car have this cable already. Mine for example was dimming the stock HU when I was turning on the lights switch, so there is an ILL cable on the connector.
For OBD, the name of mine V-LINK in bluetooth devices. If it is found in bluetooth search, it can't connect if it is not named "OBD"? This doesn't make sense. Even not on Malays rom?
I have problems with other cheap no brand Chinese OBDs that I have tried so changing to an other OBD is not an option for me
Hi without a doubt, the best radio is dasaita px5
good quality and great support
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For OBD, the name of mine V-LINK in bluetooth devices. If it is found in bluetooth search, it can't connect if it is not named "OBD"? This doesn't make sense. Even not on Malays rom?
I have problems with other cheap no brand Chinese OBDs that I have tried so changing to an other OBD is not an option for me
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known has the same HU, but does not have an OBD adapter with the name OBD and can not connect his OBD adapter to HU
i readed this problem on XDA forum https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72622247&postcount=3 Graser's Dasaita Tool may help on rooted HU
alda.cerny said:
known has the same HU, but does not have an OBD adapter with the name OBD and can not connect his OBD adapter to HU
i readed this problem on XDA forum https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72622247&postcount=3 Graser's Dasaita Tool may help on rooted HU
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problems and disadvantages everywhere... That is why everytime I am searching for a headunit, I finally quit and don't buy anything haha
Damn... Hot-Audio seems to have a unit that appears the same as xtrons, and it is cheaper and as you say they have better support. But I can't buy it Maybe the whole device is the same and only the MCU and the Android Launcher is different. Will the xtrons have a lot of differences from Hot Audio? I can install the same roms (for PX5), the only different will be the MCU updates. Am I right?
NikosPot said:
problems and disadvantages everywhere... That is why everytime I am searching for a headunit, I finally quit and don't buy anything haha
Damn... Hot-Audio seems to have a unit that appears the same as xtrons, and it is cheaper and as you say they have better support. But I can't buy it Maybe the whole device is the same and only the MCU and the Android Launcher is different. Will the xtrons have a lot of differences from Hot Audio? I can install the same roms (for PX5), the only different will be the MCU updates. Am I right?
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according to what I read here, the differences should also be in the quality of processing, Hot Audio (Dasaita) should be top, Xtrons should be a little worse
but here are brands that are waste too
yes, you can install the same ROMs (for PX5) on PX5 HU from brands Xtrons, Dasaita, ... you can install ROM from Dasaita (update.img) on Xtrons's unit
MCU update should be updated only from your brand, but there are forum members who try to combine it, I don't have the courage to do it
when i bought mine the paperwork showed the purchase price as 50$... way under actual purchase price.. so customs shouldnt be to horrible.. of course talk to them about this.. since i bought mine through ebay
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stinger4321 said:
when i bought mine the paperwork showed the purchase price as 50$... way under actual purchase price.. so customs shouldnt be to horrible.. of course talk to them about this.. since i bought mine through ebay
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I talked to them on AliExpress. They offered me to put a value of 50usd on the invoice. However in my country especially since the beginning of 2017 they try to take as much more money they can so they do not care about the paperwork. They easily can ignore the invoice, search on the internet for the product and put whatever value they want... They do not even ask the customers for the paypal invoice. Also it can stay at the airport for 1 or 2 months... So I can't buy from Dasaita. The next option is xtrons but I am reading in other thread for problems on some MCUs and I am afraid that maybe my xtrons have a crappy MCU. Do they always send the same hardware for the same HU model?
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NikosPot said:
Do they always send the same hardware for the same HU model?
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I suppose yes, you can write and ask them for sure
alda.cerny said:
I suppose yes, you can write and ask them for sure
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Well, I asked them but they are not telling me. First they told me "The MCU is STM32F091VCT"
And after I asked again to give me the manufacturer (GS, etc) they told me Sorry we can't give you that.
Your TB706APL is GS? I also asked them what are the differences between TB706PL and TB706APL and told me that it is actually the same as APL, just a tiny bit shorter, less than 1cm. I guess they just changed the casing. But how the hell am I going to be sure it will be GS if they can't provide me with this info? Crappy company I assume.
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Well, I asked them but they are not telling me. First they told me "The MCU is STM32F091VCT"
And after I asked again to give me the manufacturer (GS, etc) they told me Sorry we can't give you that.
Your TB706APL is GS? I also asked them what are the differences between TB706PL and TB706APL and told me that it is actually the same as APL, just a tiny bit shorter, less than 1cm. I guess they just changed the casing. But how the hell am I going to be sure it will be GS if they can't provide me with this info? Crappy company I assume.
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yes, my TB706APL is GS
my HU is also shortened compared to previous versions, I think they say nonsense
In the box I have no longer space for another shortening as you can see in the pictures http://www.aldacerny.cz/2017/08/nahrada-tabletu-nexus-7-2012-v-aute-za-2din-radio-xtrons-tb706apl/
alda.cerny said:
yes, my TB706APL is GS
my HU is also shortened compared to previous versions, I think they say nonsense
In the box I have no longer space for another shortening as you can see in the pictures http://www.aldacerny.cz/2017/08/nahrada-tabletu-nexus-7-2012-v-aute-za-2din-radio-xtrons-tb706apl/
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I see... So either they changed something on the PCB and made it smaller, or they do not know what they are talking about. Good job xtrons :laugh:
I have no problems with my xtrons. First I had an Erisin with Dualcore processor, then a Pumpkin with a Quadcore processor and now the xtrons with the Octacore. On every previous unit i had problems (most problems with the Pumpkin), but the xtrons runs very fast and without any little problem. The support is also great. I`ve bought the unit via ebay and after a month I`ve asked for the bill. 10 hours later I had a bill.
Only the sound quality (especially over bluetooth) and the DAB signal reception was minimal better on the Pumpkin HU. But overall I would defenitely recommend a xtrons
Hi there,
I'm trying to install one of the Dasaita PX5 headunits in my new QASHQAI and I've hit a snag. Two of the connectors on the wiring harness included with the unit are identical, but have very different wires coming out of them. I assume they are dependant in your cars factory setup, but since my unit didn't come with any sort of instructions I'm at a loss as to what they are.
My car has the small colour LCD from factory, with a factory rear camera (not the 360 camera) and front/rear parking sensors. Standard manual AC controls (not dual climate).
Any guidance would be appreciated!
I would assume that the "Low Plug" is for cars with low a equipment variant (as you can tell from the cables going into the connector already) and the other one is for cars with a more stuff.
So as of your cars description I would say go with the medium one and test it out.
Yep, I had a better look at the existing wiring loom today and the wires matched pretty well.
Decided to give it a try and it works brilliantly!
Factory rear camera and steering wheel controls all work, and I swear the audio quality using on board apps is better than the factory unit.
Hello, is it an android 8.0 unit ? If yes, does bluetooth works ?
This unit runs Android 6.0. There are 8.0 upgrade guides floating around but I honestly haven’t had the time or inclination to try it, the unit is working really well as is.
Bluetooth phone calls work great.
Bluetooth audio streaming works but I’ve used it maybe once briefly (I do all music and streaming directly on the headunit) so I cant really comment on how well audio works.
Ok thanks, I'm considering byuing a dasaita but I heard bluetooth doesn't work with android 8.0 units !
M4nu83 said:
Ok thanks, I'm considering byuing a dasaita but I heard bluetooth doesn't work with android 8.0 units !
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Hi, I have Android 8 unit since 4 months and bluetooth works fine. I use bluetooth for phone calls, for audio I use Spotify from unit app.
mitchello said:
Yep, I had a better look at the existing wiring loom today and the wires matched pretty well.
Decided to give it a try and it works brilliantly!
Factory rear camera and steering wheel controls all work, and I swear the audio quality using on board apps is better than the factory unit.
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hi mitchello,
I have the same car radio model, I have a question about the cable connection for the rear camera, I have a yellow cable from the power cable called cvbs, and two yellow cables on the camera aux cable, one says Aux Video In and the other Cam VIN, to which should I connect the Cvbs cable?
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rafiuxdoo said:
hi mitchello,
I have the same car radio model, I have a question about the cable connection for the rear camera, I have a yellow cable from the power cable called cvbs, and two yellow cables on the camera aux cable, one says Aux Video In and the other Cam VIN, to which should I connect the Cvbs cable?
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I have exatly the same problem, with my unit : 2 yellow cables but the factory reverse camera don't start !
krysthof972 said:
I have exatly the same problem, with my unit : 2 yellow cables but the factory reverse camera don't start !
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Hello, What Is u Nissan vehicle model?
I have a Nissan Qashqai 2018, support Dasaita says the connect cam vin whit Cvbs. I have not done the test yet.
krysthof972 said:
I have exatly the same problem, with my unit : 2 yellow cables but the factory reverse camera don't start !
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Have you connected the reverse trigger wire? I *think* its pink in color.. or blue. You'll probably have to splice it. This trigger is connected to your reverse gear, so that when you are in reverse, the screen will switch to camera.
rafiuxdoo said:
hi mitchello,
I have the same car radio model, I have a question about the cable connection for the rear camera, I have a yellow cable from the power cable called cvbs, and two yellow cables on the camera aux cable, one says Aux Video In and the other Cam VIN, to which should I connect the Cvbs cable?
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Hey mate, I'd have to pull out my unit to check, but I'd expect you connect it to the CAM IN connector. The White/Red RCAs should be for the AUX input in the armrest, and the yellow RCA for the camera.
I assume you have a factory camera yes? With it all connected my factory camera automatically flicks on when in reverse (even if the unit is still booting).
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Hello, What Is u Nissan vehicle model?
I have a Nissan Qashqai 2018, support Dasaita says the connect cam vin whit Cvbs. I have not done the test yet.
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thank you for the answer, CVBS don't work
it's 2015 Qashqai
I'm really drawn to this head unit for my 2017 Rogue SL AWD. My current non-Android Auto/Car play unit is basically just a bluetooth steamer. The built-in maps are so slow, outdated, cumbersome and without helpful traffic info that I simply use Google maps. This new unit looks sharp and allows full functionality without paying Nissan that crazy monthly fee.
I'm in 100% if I can more or less just do a swap out.
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Amazon has one listed with the PX6 CPU, so maybe slightly updated... "Dasaita 10.2" Android 9.0 Bluetooth Car Stereo Head Unit with 4G RAM / 64G ROM for Nissan X-Trail Qashqai Rogue 2014 2015 2016 2017 Car Radio Touch Screen GPS Navigation Support USB Bose AMP" at 499.
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I'm really drawn to this head unit for my 2017 Rogue SL AWD. My current non-Android Auto/Car play unit is basically just a bluetooth steamer. The built-in maps are so slow, outdated, cumbersome and without helpful traffic info that I simply use Google maps. This new unit looks sharp and allows full functionality without paying Nissan that crazy monthly fee.
I'm in 100% if I can more or less just do a swap out.
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Amazon has one listed with the PX6 CPU, so maybe slightly updated... "Dasaita 10.2" Android 9.0 Bluetooth Car Stereo Head Unit with 4G RAM / 64G ROM for Nissan X-Trail Qashqai Rogue 2014 2015 2016 2017 Car Radio Touch Screen GPS Navigation Support USB Bose AMP" at 499.
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Be prepared to be underwhelmed , over promised and under delivered.
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Be prepared to be underwhelmed , over promised and under delivered.
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I bought mine from Ali Express ( Dasaita 10.2 - PX6 Android 9 ) and shipped to Australia in 5 days, I couldn't be more happier with the head unit.
All the Qashqai functions operate including the 360 all round camera, TPMS, Android auto and Carplay.
Hello All
I have dasaita px6 installed on my Qashqai as well
I want to know external MIC location best place as the built-in MIC was good initially then it became poor
Installed external MIC under the steering wheel but still voice is far
Hi all, i have Nissan Qashqai 2018 and i just few days ago i got my Dasaita PX5. Everything looks fine and work very well, but I am little bit concerned about noise which is coming out from device. Every time when I accelerate I am getting some kind of whistling noise coming out from device. Noise sometimes disappears but than come back again and started to be very noise. I tested and its coming from screen device, only disappears when I unplug the big black plug (which I think it is a main electrical socket or power supply because without that is not working). Do you guys have any similar issues before? Do you have any suggestions how to fix same one?
Second question is regarding to the SWC option. I connected everything how they did suggest but still is not working. I did choose proper settings on display and still nothing changed. I tried to contact support but until today no answer.
All help is more than welcome
sandpita said:
I bought mine from Ali Express ( Dasaita 10.2 - PX6 Android 9 ) and shipped to Australia in 5 days, I couldn't be more happier with the head unit.
All the Qashqai functions operate including the 360 all round camera, TPMS, Android auto and Carplay.
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Do you have any pics you wouldn't mind sharing? Also, this is several months later, so... how do you still like it?
Thanks!
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Do you have any pics you wouldn't mind sharing? Also, this is several months later, so... how do you still like it?
Thanks!
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Had the HU for over a year now and it's faultless,everything just works i.e Factory Park Assist, 360 all round camera, GPS,DAB+.
Also I have the Carlinkit Carplay USB dongle which for me works every time with no issues where others have issues with inbuilt Carplay HU using ZLink.
Hello,
I purchased a used Seicane unit that has no volume out of speaker wires. I bench tested this and also tested in the vehicle trying many different MCU's and ROM's and no luck. Sound is playing just find out of the RCA jacks to an amplifier. I have since upgraded the unit from a PX3 to a PX5 with Android 9 from Witson. Unfortunately, I updated the MCU to 3.14 before I read that you cannot go backwards to the 2.# series. I was wondering if there maybe a setting I can change that would affect this? TIA
Send it back! What did the reseller suggest when contacted for support?
Have the same problem, but I have builded in amp for rear speakers in my car. So at least have some sound, will buy external amp anyway. Px6 android9
Hello I installed the newest sygav unit in my car which i think is the same as the dasaita unit and i just anted to know if anyone else had these issues and or might have solutions i'm currently on the android 10 firmware
-There is static coming out of what seems to be my right dash tweeter
-After an update i feel like my wireless carplay connection is a little slower than before and just overall just a little more laggy than previously (animations don't seem as smooth)
- my rear speakers simply just do not work anymore after installing the headunit which doesn't make sense to me because from what i know in my XLE RAV4 the audio is just one connector for all the speakers since i don't have the JBL upgrade with an AMP
Sell it and get a real carplay unit?
carplay unit?
Dude what is a better carplay unit then the sygav its the dasaita max10...
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Dude what is a better carplay unit then the sygav its the dasaita max10...
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The dasaita and sygav isn't a carplay unit, it's hacked Android running a Chinese knock off carplay emulator app 'zlink'. Search for that app to read about how buggy it is.
If you are looking for real, certified, carplay, an example is Sony XAV-AX1000.
I don't get why people buy these Android head units only to want to screen send from their mobile device, when the idea of having an Android head unit it to load apps onto it and use that as primary vehicle device.
This is a long, boring, detailed look at the circuit board, wiring, and accessories for this EKIY T7 generic UIS 7862 FYT based Android head unit. This may be helpful to those with questions about the hardware implementation, or those who would like more details about how to install such a device. That said, the unit is never powered on. There is no footage at the software layer/GUI at all. I will do a separate video of the install itself and we'll take a look at the pretty menus and lights.
This video is private?
That's a shame I would like to watch it.
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This video is private?
That's a shame I would like to watch it.
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Sorry, not sure how that happened. It's public again! Enjoy!
Interesting. That unit is totally different in layout to the Joying UIS7862 units.
Roughly the same components on the board though.
That IC you show is indeed a USB hub chip. My Joying unit actually has 4 USB ports although only 2 are brought out on the rear. The other two are just 5 pin JST headers.
ekolpack, I really enjoyed your video. When do you plan on posting one with it on? I am curious how fast it turns on in the car after it has completely booted up and does it just go to sleep mode when the car is off? I have a T7 model coming in the next 3-4 weeks from Aliexpress and am looking forward to using it, but your one video explained a lot. Thanks so much
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ekolpack, I really enjoyed your video. When do you plan on posting one with it on? I am curious how fast it turns on in the car after it has completely booted up and does it just go to sleep mode when the car is off? I have a T7 model coming in the next 3-4 weeks from Aliexpress and am looking forward to using it, but your one video explained a lot. Thanks so much
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Thanks, I got bogged down in some other aspects of upgrades to the vehicle so not quite ready to put the head unit in yet (will require my DSP, amps, and speakers in order for the sound system to work the way I want). But I will definitely be doing a detailed dive on the software and accessories at that time. I'll reply back here with a link to the video. Thanks!
hello guys, in this radio, do you know how to enable the other 2 USB ports, if you have many devices, you will need more USB ports, someone has tested the USB video out rca device, Adams cam
the rear 6 pin connector can be connected to pin 5 and 6, to enable the other USB, it works.?
Do you think it's possible to add front parking camera? Like im the px5 units?
Thanks