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I sure hope so. I can't have a phone without root. Unfortunately I'm stuck with verizon....
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I assume it will be exactly the same as G4 in terms of root/BL.
How can we know now though? Too early to know.
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tabp0le said:
I assume it will be exactly the same as G4 in terms of root/BL.
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which was what.. seems like some G4s have root
jaladhjin said:
which was what.. seems like some G4s have root
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Unfortunately only the intl variants and tmobile have unlocked bootloader which is required for root in android 6.0+
Have you guys heard the Unlocked LG G5 has all Major USA Bands?
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/03/18/unlocked-lg-g5-gsm-cdma/
any update on bootloader
krazie1 said:
Have you guys heard the Unlocked LG G5 has all Major USA Bands?
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/03/18/unlocked-lg-g5-gsm-cdma/
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The discussion is about an unlocked bootloader, not an unlocked carrier situation.
If an unlocked boot loader version existed, it would be called a developer version and it wouldn't be likely to be picked up in large enough numbers to see much real public development.
Basically, it will most likely be MONTHS before you see a leak or hack to unlock the boot loader if EVER. It will be a long time before you even see root if the G4 and V10 (just got root very recently) are anything to go by.
Since mobile device payments have become all the rage, carriers and device manufactures are extra motivated to lock down their devices. The Galaxy S7 and S7 edge (same processor as the G5) are so locked down (even on T-mobile) using Qualcomms secure boot methods that it does a check to verify the main partition before it loads the contents to memory meaning a root can only be done temporarily (live rooted) if an exploit is ever found and will have to be rerooted every reboot. Android developers are going to have to struggle with qualcomm devices especially to develop into the the future.
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The discussion is about an unlocked bootloader, not an unlocked carrier situation.
If an unlocked boot loader version existed, it would be called a developer version and it wouldn't be likely to be picked up in large enough numbers to see much real public development.
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If the G5 is carrier unlocked, then wouldn't we simply be able to purchase a T-Mobile variant, get it unlocked, and then use it with a Verizon Sim?
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If the G5 is carrier unlocked, then wouldn't we simply be able to purchase a T-Mobile variant, get it unlocked, and then use it with a Verizon Sim?
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As long as you don't mind paying full price or carrying a second contract and T-Mobile agrees to unlock it. Hopefully development would still be decent with just the t-mobile variant.
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If the G5 is carrier unlocked, then wouldn't we simply be able to purchase a T-Mobile variant, get it unlocked, and then use it with a Verizon Sim?
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Unfortunately Verizon is very strict on what devices can be activated with one of their SIMs. Most likely they would block a Tmobile or international variant on their network. This is the case with the G4 already.
We got root on the V10, not an unlocked bootloader though (yet). Here's to hoping we can get at least root on the G5 in the same manner...need those magic TOT files!
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We got root on the V10, not an unlocked bootloader though (yet). Here's to hoping we can get at least root on the G5 in the same manner...need those magic TOT files!
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We will need more than the TOT file to root the G5. Starting with Android 6.0, Google made changes so that root requires a modified kernel. Changes to system.img will not be enough. Since this involves tampering with the boot.img, the locked bootloader will prevent the phone from booting at all.
Here's hoping we don't have a repeat of the G4 or V10 when it comes to locked bootloaders.
Should I not update my device to keep it as developer friendly as possible (I am preordering it)
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As long as you don't mind paying full price or carrying a second contract and T-Mobile agrees to unlock it. Hopefully development would still be decent with just the t-mobile variant.
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Or not having 3g CDMA where there's no LTE.
Anyone working on a root method yet?
This is bull crap why does tmo get a unlocked bl and not everyone else?
Why are people so afraid of it? Just let us enter our serial and we download a program. We void our warranty but how bout you let us take thst risk!?
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:crying::crying:None of LG G5 variants have an unlockable bootloader!! This is due primarily to Google agreements with various credit card providers for Android "Tap and Pay" feature to be used!! Other variants, like T-Mobile, will have an "OEM Unlock" feature in developer options!! This will "carrier unlock" the carrier restriction so the phone can go to different "lesser or smaller" cell providers!! Verizon for example has a strict policy on activation of mobile devices on their network!! A non-Verizon G5 will not activate on their network at this time!! With all the security measures, LG's custom locked bootloader with kernel verify, rooting will be unlikely!!:crying::crying: While a "recovery" is available, without root permissions to flash or push the image, it's just a file on the computer!!
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There are guys in the T-Mobile forum who have successfully unlocked their bootloader . I just picked up the g5 today. It's working well so far . how good is LG with updates ?
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soundgirl101 said:
:crying::crying:None of LG G5 variants have an unlockable bootloader!! This is due primarily to Google agreements with various credit card providers for Android "Tap and Pay" feature to be used!! Other variants, like T-Mobile, will have an "OEM Unlock" feature in developer options!! This will "carrier unlock" the carrier restriction so the phone can go to different "lesser or smaller" cell providers!! Verizon for example has a strict policy on activation of mobile devices on their network!! A non-Verizon G5 will not activate on their network at this time!! With all the security measures, LG's custom locked bootloader with kernel verify, rooting will be unlikely!!:crying::crying: While a "recovery" is available, without root permissions to flash or push the image, it's just a file on the computer!!
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That is NOT what the OEM Unlock function does at all.
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Come on you good guys and let's root and custom rom this device.
What I'd really love is for someone to work out how we can use root to insert the settings needed for VoLTE and VoWoFi on UK networks (seeing as LG refuse to enable it for the UK)
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What I'd really love is for someone to work out how we can use root to insert the settings needed for VoLTE and VoWoFi on UK networks (seeing as LG refuse to enable it for the UK)
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Why they refuse to enable it for UK? That is the reason why I can't find it in settings...
Boot-loader Unlock Available for TMG710TM
I still am waiting for being bale to unlock my T-mobile variant
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I still am waiting for being bale to unlock my T-mobile variant
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Right I hope LG would let us but to be honest I highly doubt they will
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Right I hope LG would let us but to be honest I highly doubt they will
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Things like that honestly makes me want to have gotten the Oneplus 6 instead because I love custom roms and building my own using AOSP, and to me it doesn't make sense how you can allow the same exact phone to be unlocked but not in all places, is annoying.
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Things like that honestly makes me want to have gotten the Oneplus 6 instead because I love custom roms and building my own using AOSP, and to me it doesn't make sense how you can allow the same exact phone to be unlocked but not in all places, is annoying.
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I feel you homie it sucks, but that's how it is just gotta hope the lovely people here can figure something out, other than the lack of root I'm really enjoying this phone
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I still am waiting for being bale to unlock my T-mobile variant
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Right I hope LG would let us but to be honest I highly doubt they will
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Won't happen the T-mobile variant G7. For the LG V30 H932, T-mobile not only stripped out the fastboot flash commands they also have different RSA encryption keys so you can't convert to another model (even temporarily) which has fastboot flash commands. They also did this for the LG G6 T-mobile, so I can't see them reversing course to help people who want to unlock bootloader and root.
Since back in May when we found the wonderful LG Oreo bootloader unlock exploit, every LG V30/V30+/V30S on the planet can now be bootloader unlocked and rooted -- EXCEPT for the the T-mobile H932. Because you need Oreo and you need (at least temporarily) fastboot flash commands.
So, all the carrier unlocked US998, European H930 and even the dual SIM H930DS (which have fastboot flash commands) can immediately be bootloader unlocked and rooted. For the others -- like the North American variants AT&T H931, Canadian H933, Verizon VS996, Sprint LS998 -- you first flash the carrier unlocked US998 firmware (aka Frankenstein) over those models to "convert" them to US998 to add back fastboot flash commands. We use dev patched LGUP. Then, after bootloader unlock and root, Sprint and Verizon users often flash back either all or part of their firmware to get back features or LTE bands (Sprint especially). They are still rooted, they still have TWRP. As a result of this, we suddenly now have tons of ROMs and custom kernels are under development.
But T-mobile H932 users are locked out of this development bonanza, because they don't have fastboot flash commands and you can't cross flash anything without bricking the phone. I would assume the same for G7? T-mobile must have demanded this, because all the other North American V30 variants share the same RSA encryption keys which make cross flashing possible. If T-mobile demanded it for their V30, seems they would do the same for the next phone also.
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Won't happen the T-mobile variant G7. For the LG V30 H932, T-mobile not only stripped out the fastboot flash commands they also have different RSA encryption keys so you can't convert to another model (even temporarily) which has fastboot flash commands. They also did this for the LG G6 T-mobile, so I can't see them reversing course to help people who want to unlock bootloader and root.
Since back in May when we found the wonderful LG Oreo bootloader unlock exploit, every LG V30/V30+/V30S on the planet can now be bootloader unlocked and rooted -- EXCEPT for the the T-mobile H932. Because you need Oreo and you need (at least temporarily) fastboot flash commands.
So, all the carrier unlocked US998, European H930 and even the dual SIM H930DS (which have fastboot flash commands) can immediately be bootloader unlocked and rooted. For the others -- like the North American variants AT&T H931, Canadian H933, Verizon VS996, Sprint LS998 -- you first flash the carrier unlocked US998 firmware (aka Frankenstein) over those models to "convert" them to US998 to add back fastboot flash commands. We use dev patched LGUP. Then, after bootloader unlock and root, Sprint and Verizon users often flash back either all or part of their firmware to get back features or LTE bands (Sprint especially). They are still rooted, they still have TWRP. As a result of this, we suddenly now have tons of ROMs and custom kernels are under development.
But T-mobile H932 users are locked out of this development bonanza, because they don't have fastboot flash commands and you can't cross flash anything without bricking the phone. I would assume the same for G7? T-mobile must have demanded this, because all the other North American V30 variants share the same RSA encryption keys which make cross flashing possible. If T-mobile demanded it for their V30, seems they would do the same for the next phone also.
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That blows I literally don't have any other answer but that, I remember back in the day when Verizon was no go and T-Mobile were the easy phones to root. my my how the turntables. Fu**ing John Legere I thought he was all for unlocking bootloader's and was trying to talk to Samsung to not lock it down on the S6 or S7 a couple of years ago. Just F*** dude. Welp I'll live I honestly just miss viper4android and adaway, I've been doing fine with eqfy mixed with the stock EQ and Blokada but I wish it were root apps instead.
the 710TM does have Fastboot commands, I've already played around with them, such as "fastboot getvar device-id", "fastboot oem unlocked" give the bootloader locked status, you can even flash with fastboot to unlock the bootloader with "unlock.bin". Once LG gives 710TM owners the green light, they will give us the unlock.bin
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the 710TM does have Fastboot commands, I've already played around with them, such as "fastboot getvar device-id", "fastboot oem unlocked" give the bootloader locked status, you can even flash with fastboot to unlock the bootloader with "unlock.bin". Once LG gives 710TM owners the green light, they will give us the unlock.bin
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I really don't think LG will ever give us that green light, don't get me wrong I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see it happening
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Won't happen the T-mobile variant G7. For the LG V30 H932, T-mobile not only stripped out the fastboot flash commands they also have different RSA encryption keys so you can't convert to another model (even temporarily) which has fastboot flash commands. They also did this for the LG G6 T-mobile, so I can't see them reversing course to help people who want to unlock bootloader and root.
Since back in May when we found the wonderful LG Oreo bootloader unlock exploit, every LG V30/V30+/V30S on the planet can now be bootloader unlocked and rooted -- EXCEPT for the the T-mobile H932. Because you need Oreo and you need (at least temporarily) fastboot flash commands.
So, all the carrier unlocked US998, European H930 and even the dual SIM H930DS (which have fastboot flash commands) can immediately be bootloader unlocked and rooted. For the others -- like the North American variants AT&T H931, Canadian H933, Verizon VS996, Sprint LS998 -- you first flash the carrier unlocked US998 firmware (aka Frankenstein) over those models to "convert" them to US998 to add back fastboot flash commands. We use dev patched LGUP. Then, after bootloader unlock and root, Sprint and Verizon users often flash back either all or part of their firmware to get back features or LTE bands (Sprint especially). They are still rooted, they still have TWRP. As a result of this, we suddenly now have tons of ROMs and custom kernels are under development.
But T-mobile H932 users are locked out of this development bonanza, because they don't have fastboot flash commands and you can't cross flash anything without bricking the phone. I would assume the same for G7? T-mobile must have demanded this, because all the other North American V30 variants share the same RSA encryption keys which make cross flashing possible. If T-mobile demanded it for their V30, seems they would do the same for the next phone also.
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T-mo didnt demand this, If this was the case then all their devices would be the same way, I had the HTC10, None of the fastboot commands are stripped, everything is there.. you can even S/off and cross install.
and rebrand the phone........ If T-mo was at fault for the LG devices, then all would be the same way.. its only LG and LG only.. LG started doing that with the MM update on the V10 which screwed over everyone.
the only reason none of the other American devices outside the US unlocked version didnt do that.. because they didnt think anyone would be able to unlock it..
T-mo has always allowed you to unlock bootloader if OEM allows it...... This isnt T-mo its LG that has done it.. They dont want any US variant to have fastboot commands..
and since you found that Oreo Bug, you can be sure that futures devices and so on by LG will have that fixed...
This has always been LG that has done this to the American Market not US Carriers, Even the MOTO from T-mo is unlockable with full fastboot commands..................
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the 710TM does have Fastboot commands, I've already played around with them, such as "fastboot getvar device-id", "fastboot oem unlocked" give the bootloader locked status, you can even flash with fastboot to unlock the bootloader with "unlock.bin". Once LG gives 710TM owners the green light, they will give us the unlock.bin
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Fastboot commands are not fastboot flash commands.
All fastboot flash commands are stripped out. And T-Mobile has different RSA encryption, apparently per demand of T-Mobile.
T-Mobile LG G6, V30 and now G7.
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Eliminater74 said:
T-mo didnt demand this, If this was the case then all their devices would be the same way,
I had the HTC10, None of the fastboot commands are stripped, everything is there.. you can even S/off and cross install.
and rebrand the phone........
T-mo has always allowed you to unlock bootloader if OEM allows it...... This isnt T-mo its LG that has done it.. They dont want any US variant to have fastboot commands..
and since you found that Oreo Bug, you can be sure that futures devices and so on by LG will have that fixed...
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HTC 10 is 2016 phone. Things have changed since then. T-MOBILE is no longer dev friendly. You are living in the past.
T-Mobile even tweeted for the LG V30 you would NOT be able to unlock the bootloader. Yeah you can "fake" unlock it, but without fastboot flash commands you can't do anything with the "unlocked" bootloader. It's like having the keys to the car -- but there's no car.
We went through all this with the 2017 LG G6 and LG V30. Sorry you haven't kept up?
T-Mobile users who want root with V30 have to buy another North America variant and root it, and use on T-Mobile.
Yes, T-Mobile did demand the different RSA encryption or LG wouldn't have done it JUST for T-Mobile models.
Yes, LG stripped fastboot flash commands out of most of the North America carrier variants, but you can convert ALL those -- EXCEPT for the T-Mobile H932 -- to carrier unlocked model US998. The reason you can't do that with the T-Mobile H932 is because ONLY that model has different encryption keys than other North America variants. Why would LG do that for ONLY T-Mobile H932?
I used an unlock.bin from a V30 just to see if it would attempt to flash with "fastboot flash unlock unlock.bin", it attempted to flash but errored out because of wrong unlock.bin.
So on motorola.com they offer the Moto Z4 Unlocked and the Moto Z4 Verizon. Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the unlocked version? I know Verizon locks down all phones. and is it possible to use the carrier unlocked version on Verizon? I know some of the old phones didn't have the correct band to work with Verizon's network but things change and Verizon is now offering bring your own device now.
I'm still rocking the Z force with the shatterproof screen is there any news if Motorola going to bring it back on any new phone?
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So on motorola.com they offer the Moto Z4 Unlocked and the Moto Z4 Verizon. Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the unlocked version? I know Verizon locks down all phones. and is it possible to use the carrier unlocked version on Verizon? I know some of the old phones didn't have the correct band to work with Verizon's network but things change and Verizon is now offering bring your own device now.
I'm still rocking the Z force with the shatterproof screen is there any news if Motorola going to bring it back on any new phone?
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You can indeed unlock the BL on the unlocked model, and I do believe it is compatible with VZW, however, the Unlocked model won't work with the Verizon 5G Moto mod, even if its on Verizons network. I believe only the VZW model will work with the 5g mod...
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You can indeed unlock the BL on the unlocked model, and I do believe it is compatible with VZW, however, the Unlocked model won't work with the Verizon 5G Moto mod, even if its on Verizons network. I believe only the VZW model will work with the 5g mod...
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I'm in Los Angeles so its going to be some time before the 5G is up and running here. I'm more interested in the bootloader part of it and if it has band 13 working?
Moto z⁴ unlocked $499.99 connectivity Networks + bands
LTE:B1/B2/B3/B4/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28/B30/B38/B40/B41/B41HPUE/B66/B71
UMTS: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
looks like it is compatible on Verizon and AT&T B13 and B17 now i just need proof of bootloader unlocked :fingers-crossed:
Z4 unlocked version on Verizon here, works fine.
I mentioned this in another thread - I did successfully get a bootloader unlock code from the Moto site, but haven't actually done the unlock yet.
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Z4 unlocked version on Verizon here, works fine.
I mentioned this in another thread - I did successfully get a bootloader unlock code from the Moto site, but haven't actually done the unlock yet.
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Thank you its still a fairly new phone but you would think there should be more info on it. if you ever do unlock it can you post a video please.
I have ordered the phone from Motorola, looking very much forward to using this phone with a custom Rom like LineageOS so I am hoping the Rom support will soon pick up. Here is a good walkthrough I found for unlocking the bootloader.
https://myphoneupdate.com/unlock-bootloader-motorola-moto-z4/
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I have ordered the phone from Motorola, looking very much forward to using this phone with a custom Rom like LineageOS so I am hoping the Rom support will soon pick up. Here is a good walkthrough I found for unlocking the bootloader.
https://myphoneupdate.com/unlock-bootloader-motorola-moto-z4/
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very cool keep us posted when you unlock bootloader please :good:
Noob question. I'm still on my old Note 3 but looking at possibly upgrading to the z4. Don't you have to root the phone before you can unlock the bootloader?
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Noob question. I'm still on my old Note 3 but looking at possibly upgrading to the z4. Don't you have to root the phone before you can unlock the bootloader?
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No its the other way around its easier to root the phone after you unlock the bootloader. To root your Android phone (i.e. gain administrative access), you'll need to unlock your bootloader first.
Marco0070 said:
Moto z⁴ unlocked $499.99 connectivity Networks + bands
LTE:B1/B2/B3/B4/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28/B30/B38/B40/B41/B41HPUE/B66/B71
UMTS: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
looks like it is compatible on Verizon and AT&T B13 and B17 now i just need proof of bootloader unlocked :fingers-crossed:
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I just bought the moto z4 on Verizon. I was surprised to find that the allow bootloader access wasn't blocked or removed from the developer menu and it was already switched on.
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No its the other way around its easier to root the phone after you unlock the bootloader. To root your Android phone (i.e. gain administrative access), you'll need to unlock your bootloader first.
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Thanks for your reply. It was backwards with Samsung. In fact for a while I was rooted but couldn't unlock the bootloader.
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I just bought the moto z4 on Verizon. I was surprised to find that the allow bootloader access wasn't blocked or removed from the developer menu and it was already switched on.
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That doesn't really do anything especially on the verizon model. On the unlocked carrier version you need to switch that on then unlock the bootloader with a code that motorola gives you.
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Thanks for your reply. It was backwards with Samsung. In fact for a while I was rooted but couldn't unlock the bootloader.
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That is true with a lot of phones but that's a temporary root or a hacked root. Verizon doesn't like their phones to be rooted or bootloader unlocked so they send "security" updates to patch root access to phones that developers found hacks to gain root access to. But if the bootloader is unlocked they can't patch that so you can remove root update your phone then root it again very easily.
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You can indeed unlock the BL on the unlocked model, and I do believe it is compatible with VZW, however, the Unlocked model won't work with the Verizon 5G Moto mod, even if its on Verizons network. I believe only the VZW model will work with the 5g mod...
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actually called VZW about this a couple weeks back, tier 1 guy went "uhh, hold a sec, I'll get you to tier 2" tier 2 "good question, i need to ask network and provisioning" the eventual answer was yes they will work.
The only problem i can see, is from what i understand, moto mods are hit and miss with custom roms, so stock will be fine, custom depends.
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I just bought the moto z4 on Verizon. I was surprised to find that the allow bootloader access wasn't blocked or removed from the developer menu and it was already switched on.
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That's a negative here on my end. Verizon z4 and everything was good until I entered the code from fastboot into the field on the moto website; says "your device cannot be unlocked". love verizon.
I have a brand new Z4 XT1980-3 that I just unlocked (bootloader unlock). The only problem with this model is that WiFi calling and Video calling are not possible on Verizon. Apparently they don't support those features on the XT1980-3. Those features are only available on the Verizon version (XT1980-4). So now that I'm bootloader unlocked, can I just flash the XT1980-4 firmware on the phone? Is that even possible? And will it enable the advanced calling features? I already downloaded the May 2019 firmware from here: https://www.getdroidtips.com/motoro...e-and-firmware-collections-back-to-stock-rom/
Just want to make sure it's safe to flash, and if it will in fact enable WiFi and video calling on the Verizon network. Thanks!
Got it figured out. Enjoy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z4/help/verizon-volte-wi-fi-calling-support-t3940664
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Got it figured out. Enjoy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z4/help/verizon-volte-wi-fi-calling-support-t3940664
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Can't wait to see it working
I am thinking of buying this phone. I wanted to check in here before I purchase a 5G phone. I need to be able to unlock bootloader, root and install TWRP.
Is anyone familiar with accomplishing this on this phone? I have read about pulling the unlock codes and submitting them to Motorola to get the unlock key.
I assume "unlocked" means carrier unlocked. Is there any reason you could think of why Motorola would deny the bootloader unlock key for this model? And should root and TWRP be fairly straight forward? I have been using a VS985 LG G3 for the last eight years thanks to all the help and info by @roirraW "edor" ehT, but on January 2, 2023 when Verizon shut down CDMA, I have been having trouble. A simple "rootable" 5G phone is now needed.
Thanks
I have a new XT2113-2 (TM) that is yet to be boot loader unlocked/rooted/etc. I don't want to do that until I am sure. I got this variant of the phone so I could unlock the bootloader, root, TWRP, etc and was afraid the "global" variant -3 might not work with USA 5G. The phone came with Android 11 installed (and has since auto-installed at least one security update). It shows the build as RZKS31.Q3-45-16-3-11 and the baseband ends with Kiev_TMO_CUST. I am using it on ATT (via Red Pocket) since TM service just sucks where I live. And I do get the 5G icon on it now.
But ideally, I want to get this to the original TM Android 10, which I think is shown here as the file XT2113-2_KIEV_TMO_10_QZKS30.Q4-40-95-6_subsidy-TMO_SPR_RSU_QCOM_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip as I hope it will undo some of the "security" crap Google has added to Android with each successive release.
So I need to be sure of the following:
1. Can I downgrade from 11 to 10?
2. Is there some reason to NOT use the firmware mentioned above? Should I use retail US (RETUS) instead? I am not sure the differences (it would be great if that would permit me to use this phone on Red Pocket Verizon but the IMEI now shows as incompatible on Verizon).
3. Must I unlock the boot loader to downgrade? I know I must to do other stuff and I have the unlock code on hand and ready to put it if needed. If I must unlock the boot loader to downgrade, will I have to re-unlock it afterwards? And, if so, will I have to go through the same process of getting a code or will the code I have now work?
4. How do I flash to do the downgrade? I have the Lenovo Rescue/Smart Assistant installed on my PC and was able to download the stock firmware (I assume it matches what is on there now) and stashed it aside. But is there some other tool needed?
5. Once I achieve downgrade, what is the best way to avoid having the thing auto-update to Android 11?
Thanks for your help with these questions.
If you are going to take this phone to AT&T, you will not get 5G if you unlock the bootloader. The NR band will be restricted. Downgrading from 11 to 10 generally doesn't work either.
I can't answer the rest of your questions.
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If you are going to take this phone to AT&T, you will not get 5G if you unlock the bootloader. The NR band will be restricted. Downgrading from 11 to 10 generally doesn't work either.
I can't answer the rest of your questions.
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Thanks for this response. I do have it on ATT (via Red Pocket) now and it does appear to get 5G now. I have not yet unlocked the bootloader, was thinking to do it, but considering that it would cause loss of 5G I think I will not and will just return the phone. Wow!
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If you are going to take this phone to AT&T, you will not get 5G if you unlock the bootloader. The NR band will be restricted. Downgrading from 11 to 10 generally doesn't work either.
I can't answer the rest of your questions.
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BTW - have you any references on this behavior? I am wondering if this is something that would affect ALL phones with unlocked boot loaders (like Pixel, OnePlus, etc). Thanks for the heads-up.
WARNING: ONLY DO THAT IF YOU ARE REALLY SURE AND DO BE CAREFULLY. I recommend you: do it not.
By downgrading to an older software, the bootloader in many cases can be destroyed, so your phone is completly bricked!
I write this from EXPERIENCE. My amazon fire is completed bricked, when i have flash a older SYSTEM. It can't turn on, no fastboot, no recovery!
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BTW - have you any references on this behavior? I am wondering if this is something that would affect ALL phones with unlocked boot loaders (like Pixel, OnePlus, etc). Thanks for the heads-up.
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I suspect, but don't know, that all phones with unlocked bootloaders are blocked from 5g from AT&T. I know my kiev (RETUS) is.
RETIEF said:
I suspect, but don't know, that all phones with unlocked bootloaders are blocked from 5g from AT&T. I know my kiev (RETUS) is.
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Thanks. Yet another reason to dislike ATT, I guess. Sadly, in my area TM coverage stinks. And this phone will not work on Verizon (unclear why but they reject the IMEI). And getting the Verizon variant will preclude ever rooting the thing. So I really feel trapped!
Likewise
RETIEF said:
I suspect, but don't know, that all phones with unlocked bootloaders are blocked from 5g from AT&T. I know my kiev (RETUS) is.
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I always figured it was this
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as my IMEI SV on the Metro/TMO variant is 05 rather than 07. Never tested with a locked bootloader though.
whitedavidp said:
BTW - have you any references on this behavior? I am wondering if this is something that would affect ALL phones with unlocked boot loaders (like Pixel, OnePlus, etc). Thanks for the heads-up.
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Bootloader unlocked Pixels work fine on ATT 5G, don't know about OnePlus.