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Will the VZW G5 be rooted and/or BL unlocked?

I sure hope so. I can't have a phone without root. Unfortunately I'm stuck with verizon....
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I assume it will be exactly the same as G4 in terms of root/BL.

How can we know now though? Too early to know.
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tabp0le said:
I assume it will be exactly the same as G4 in terms of root/BL.
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which was what.. seems like some G4s have root

jaladhjin said:
which was what.. seems like some G4s have root
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Unfortunately only the intl variants and tmobile have unlocked bootloader which is required for root in android 6.0+

Have you guys heard the Unlocked LG G5 has all Major USA Bands?
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/03/18/unlocked-lg-g5-gsm-cdma/

any update on bootloader

krazie1 said:
Have you guys heard the Unlocked LG G5 has all Major USA Bands?
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/03/18/unlocked-lg-g5-gsm-cdma/
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The discussion is about an unlocked bootloader, not an unlocked carrier situation.
If an unlocked boot loader version existed, it would be called a developer version and it wouldn't be likely to be picked up in large enough numbers to see much real public development.
Basically, it will most likely be MONTHS before you see a leak or hack to unlock the boot loader if EVER. It will be a long time before you even see root if the G4 and V10 (just got root very recently) are anything to go by.
Since mobile device payments have become all the rage, carriers and device manufactures are extra motivated to lock down their devices. The Galaxy S7 and S7 edge (same processor as the G5) are so locked down (even on T-mobile) using Qualcomms secure boot methods that it does a check to verify the main partition before it loads the contents to memory meaning a root can only be done temporarily (live rooted) if an exploit is ever found and will have to be rerooted every reboot. Android developers are going to have to struggle with qualcomm devices especially to develop into the the future.

manaox2 said:
The discussion is about an unlocked bootloader, not an unlocked carrier situation.
If an unlocked boot loader version existed, it would be called a developer version and it wouldn't be likely to be picked up in large enough numbers to see much real public development.
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If the G5 is carrier unlocked, then wouldn't we simply be able to purchase a T-Mobile variant, get it unlocked, and then use it with a Verizon Sim?

dtroup64 said:
If the G5 is carrier unlocked, then wouldn't we simply be able to purchase a T-Mobile variant, get it unlocked, and then use it with a Verizon Sim?
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As long as you don't mind paying full price or carrying a second contract and T-Mobile agrees to unlock it. Hopefully development would still be decent with just the t-mobile variant.

dtroup64 said:
If the G5 is carrier unlocked, then wouldn't we simply be able to purchase a T-Mobile variant, get it unlocked, and then use it with a Verizon Sim?
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Unfortunately Verizon is very strict on what devices can be activated with one of their SIMs. Most likely they would block a Tmobile or international variant on their network. This is the case with the G4 already.

We got root on the V10, not an unlocked bootloader though (yet). Here's to hoping we can get at least root on the G5 in the same manner...need those magic TOT files!

thedrizzle said:
We got root on the V10, not an unlocked bootloader though (yet). Here's to hoping we can get at least root on the G5 in the same manner...need those magic TOT files!
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We will need more than the TOT file to root the G5. Starting with Android 6.0, Google made changes so that root requires a modified kernel. Changes to system.img will not be enough. Since this involves tampering with the boot.img, the locked bootloader will prevent the phone from booting at all.
Here's hoping we don't have a repeat of the G4 or V10 when it comes to locked bootloaders.

Should I not update my device to keep it as developer friendly as possible (I am preordering it)

manaox2 said:
As long as you don't mind paying full price or carrying a second contract and T-Mobile agrees to unlock it. Hopefully development would still be decent with just the t-mobile variant.
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Or not having 3g CDMA where there's no LTE.

Anyone working on a root method yet?

This is bull crap why does tmo get a unlocked bl and not everyone else?
Why are people so afraid of it? Just let us enter our serial and we download a program. We void our warranty but how bout you let us take thst risk!?

Sorry Bad post!!

soundgirl101 said:
:crying::crying:None of LG G5 variants have an unlockable bootloader!! This is due primarily to Google agreements with various credit card providers for Android "Tap and Pay" feature to be used!! Other variants, like T-Mobile, will have an "OEM Unlock" feature in developer options!! This will "carrier unlock" the carrier restriction so the phone can go to different "lesser or smaller" cell providers!! Verizon for example has a strict policy on activation of mobile devices on their network!! A non-Verizon G5 will not activate on their network at this time!! With all the security measures, LG's custom locked bootloader with kernel verify, rooting will be unlikely!!:crying::crying: While a "recovery" is available, without root permissions to flash or push the image, it's just a file on the computer!!
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There are guys in the T-Mobile forum who have successfully unlocked their bootloader . I just picked up the g5 today. It's working well so far . how good is LG with updates ?
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soundgirl101 said:
:crying::crying:None of LG G5 variants have an unlockable bootloader!! This is due primarily to Google agreements with various credit card providers for Android "Tap and Pay" feature to be used!! Other variants, like T-Mobile, will have an "OEM Unlock" feature in developer options!! This will "carrier unlock" the carrier restriction so the phone can go to different "lesser or smaller" cell providers!! Verizon for example has a strict policy on activation of mobile devices on their network!! A non-Verizon G5 will not activate on their network at this time!! With all the security measures, LG's custom locked bootloader with kernel verify, rooting will be unlikely!!:crying::crying: While a "recovery" is available, without root permissions to flash or push the image, it's just a file on the computer!!
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That is NOT what the OEM Unlock function does at all.
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Installed wrong version

I'm in a Verizon pixel and installed "v" version instead of "u" everything is working. What's different about the international version?

Just a fix for European carriers. I'm using the same on Verizon as well with no issues. You're good.

Nick_Gl said:
I'm in a Verizon pixel and installed "v" version instead of "u" everything is working. What's different about the international version?
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Nothing it will work just fine. From what I understand just a slight difference for Europe. It will be fine.

What I'd like to know is if I were completely stock on V, bootloader relocked, what updates would I get, if any? Would I get the next version for Europe, or would it be the other? I'm in the US on Verizon (device from Google).

jesssiii said:
What I'd like to know is if I were completely stock on V, bootloader relocked, what updates would I get, if any? Would I get the next version for Europe, or would it be the other? I'm in the US on Verizon (device from Google).
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You probably wouldn't get any updates. The trigger for that version probably wouldn't get to you. But I am not certain on that. Might be able to pull it via wifi with no SIM in it.
Do NOT relock your bootloader unless it is just before you are going to put it in a box to send back for warranty.

jesssiii said:
What I'd like to know is if I were completely stock on V, bootloader relocked, what updates would I get, if any? Would I get the next version for Europe, or would it be the other? I'm in the US on Verizon (device from Google).
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Why would you think you'd get the European version if you are in the US? Did I miss something in your question? You'd get the U version if you're on Verizon and you can lock and relock the bootloader at your discretion since you have the Google Pixel. I mean if you want to keep wiping your data each time, that is.

bobby janow said:
Why would you think you'd get the European version if you are in the US? Did I miss something in your question? You'd get the U version if you're on Verizon and you can lock and relock the bootloader at your discretion since you have the Google Pixel. I mean if you want to keep wiping your data each time, that is.
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He made it sound like his pixel is from Verizon. In that case he can't lock and unlock the bootloader whenever he wants.
To the OP. What are you trying to do? It doesn't matter if you are on V. If it makes you feel better just flash U then. As long as you don't have twrp or root you will still get OTAs. Why would you want to lock your bootloader? You can have an unlocked bootloader and still take normal OTAs just fine . it its a Verizon sold pixel you won't be able to unlock once you lock.

fritzgerald said:
Just a fix for European carriers. I'm using the same on Verizon as well with no issues. You're good.
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Thanks wasn't sure. I'll just remember to side load the correct one in February.

aholeinthewor1d said:
He made it sound like his pixel is from Verizon. <snip>
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It was certainly a little bit confusing, however, the last part of his post it said.. (device from Google) so I figured it was a GPixel activated on Verizon.

Unlocked Z4 Bootloader vs Verizon Z4

So on motorola.com they offer the Moto Z4 Unlocked and the Moto Z4 Verizon. Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the unlocked version? I know Verizon locks down all phones. and is it possible to use the carrier unlocked version on Verizon? I know some of the old phones didn't have the correct band to work with Verizon's network but things change and Verizon is now offering bring your own device now.
I'm still rocking the Z force with the shatterproof screen is there any news if Motorola going to bring it back on any new phone?

Marco0070 said:
So on motorola.com they offer the Moto Z4 Unlocked and the Moto Z4 Verizon. Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the unlocked version? I know Verizon locks down all phones. and is it possible to use the carrier unlocked version on Verizon? I know some of the old phones didn't have the correct band to work with Verizon's network but things change and Verizon is now offering bring your own device now.
I'm still rocking the Z force with the shatterproof screen is there any news if Motorola going to bring it back on any new phone?
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You can indeed unlock the BL on the unlocked model, and I do believe it is compatible with VZW, however, the Unlocked model won't work with the Verizon 5G Moto mod, even if its on Verizons network. I believe only the VZW model will work with the 5g mod...

bdizzle1686 said:
You can indeed unlock the BL on the unlocked model, and I do believe it is compatible with VZW, however, the Unlocked model won't work with the Verizon 5G Moto mod, even if its on Verizons network. I believe only the VZW model will work with the 5g mod...
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I'm in Los Angeles so its going to be some time before the 5G is up and running here. I'm more interested in the bootloader part of it and if it has band 13 working?

Moto z⁴ unlocked $499.99 connectivity Networks + bands
LTE:B1/B2/B3/B4/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28/B30/B38/B40/B41/B41HPUE/B66/B71
UMTS: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
looks like it is compatible on Verizon and AT&T B13 and B17 now i just need proof of bootloader unlocked :fingers-crossed:

Z4 unlocked version on Verizon here, works fine.
I mentioned this in another thread - I did successfully get a bootloader unlock code from the Moto site, but haven't actually done the unlock yet.

wraith1932 said:
Z4 unlocked version on Verizon here, works fine.
I mentioned this in another thread - I did successfully get a bootloader unlock code from the Moto site, but haven't actually done the unlock yet.
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Thank you its still a fairly new phone but you would think there should be more info on it. if you ever do unlock it can you post a video please.

I have ordered the phone from Motorola, looking very much forward to using this phone with a custom Rom like LineageOS so I am hoping the Rom support will soon pick up. Here is a good walkthrough I found for unlocking the bootloader.
https://myphoneupdate.com/unlock-bootloader-motorola-moto-z4/

DrakeJones said:
I have ordered the phone from Motorola, looking very much forward to using this phone with a custom Rom like LineageOS so I am hoping the Rom support will soon pick up. Here is a good walkthrough I found for unlocking the bootloader.
https://myphoneupdate.com/unlock-bootloader-motorola-moto-z4/
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very cool keep us posted when you unlock bootloader please :good:

Noob question. I'm still on my old Note 3 but looking at possibly upgrading to the z4. Don't you have to root the phone before you can unlock the bootloader?

shallmann said:
Noob question. I'm still on my old Note 3 but looking at possibly upgrading to the z4. Don't you have to root the phone before you can unlock the bootloader?
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No its the other way around its easier to root the phone after you unlock the bootloader. To root your Android phone (i.e. gain administrative access), you'll need to unlock your bootloader first.

Marco0070 said:
Moto z⁴ unlocked $499.99 connectivity Networks + bands
LTE:B1/B2/B3/B4/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28/B30/B38/B40/B41/B41HPUE/B66/B71
UMTS: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
looks like it is compatible on Verizon and AT&T B13 and B17 now i just need proof of bootloader unlocked :fingers-crossed:
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I just bought the moto z4 on Verizon. I was surprised to find that the allow bootloader access wasn't blocked or removed from the developer menu and it was already switched on.

Marco0070 said:
No its the other way around its easier to root the phone after you unlock the bootloader. To root your Android phone (i.e. gain administrative access), you'll need to unlock your bootloader first.
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Thanks for your reply. It was backwards with Samsung. In fact for a while I was rooted but couldn't unlock the bootloader.

tenacious soul said:
I just bought the moto z4 on Verizon. I was surprised to find that the allow bootloader access wasn't blocked or removed from the developer menu and it was already switched on.
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That doesn't really do anything especially on the verizon model. On the unlocked carrier version you need to switch that on then unlock the bootloader with a code that motorola gives you.

shallmann said:
Thanks for your reply. It was backwards with Samsung. In fact for a while I was rooted but couldn't unlock the bootloader.
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That is true with a lot of phones but that's a temporary root or a hacked root. Verizon doesn't like their phones to be rooted or bootloader unlocked so they send "security" updates to patch root access to phones that developers found hacks to gain root access to. But if the bootloader is unlocked they can't patch that so you can remove root update your phone then root it again very easily.

bdizzle1686 said:
You can indeed unlock the BL on the unlocked model, and I do believe it is compatible with VZW, however, the Unlocked model won't work with the Verizon 5G Moto mod, even if its on Verizons network. I believe only the VZW model will work with the 5g mod...
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actually called VZW about this a couple weeks back, tier 1 guy went "uhh, hold a sec, I'll get you to tier 2" tier 2 "good question, i need to ask network and provisioning" the eventual answer was yes they will work.
The only problem i can see, is from what i understand, moto mods are hit and miss with custom roms, so stock will be fine, custom depends.

tenacious soul said:
I just bought the moto z4 on Verizon. I was surprised to find that the allow bootloader access wasn't blocked or removed from the developer menu and it was already switched on.
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That's a negative here on my end. Verizon z4 and everything was good until I entered the code from fastboot into the field on the moto website; says "your device cannot be unlocked". love verizon.

I have a brand new Z4 XT1980-3 that I just unlocked (bootloader unlock). The only problem with this model is that WiFi calling and Video calling are not possible on Verizon. Apparently they don't support those features on the XT1980-3. Those features are only available on the Verizon version (XT1980-4). So now that I'm bootloader unlocked, can I just flash the XT1980-4 firmware on the phone? Is that even possible? And will it enable the advanced calling features? I already downloaded the May 2019 firmware from here: https://www.getdroidtips.com/motoro...e-and-firmware-collections-back-to-stock-rom/
Just want to make sure it's safe to flash, and if it will in fact enable WiFi and video calling on the Verizon network. Thanks!

Got it figured out. Enjoy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z4/help/verizon-volte-wi-fi-calling-support-t3940664

clevertrevor777 said:
Got it figured out. Enjoy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z4/help/verizon-volte-wi-fi-calling-support-t3940664
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Can't wait to see it working

Which T-Mobile 5g phones are best for rooting.

Hi guys, I am hoping I can get some help since I am needing to get a 5g phone on T-Mobile and root it to tether with. And since I am adding a line, I could take advantage of their half-off deals, but I need to know if there are any 5g phones on T-Mobile that will let me root it while it is technically still locked to their service. I know when I rooted a phone earlier this year it was just assumed that it needed to be carrier unlocked first, so it's hard to go look at individual phone forums and see if their unlock methods would work for me or not. Is it possible for any of their offerings to be rooted while still be locked to the carrier?
Thanks in advanced.

One of the phones T-Mobile sells with 5G is the OnePlus 8...

Nate Rules said:
Hi guys, I am hoping I can get some help since I am needing to get a 5g phone on T-Mobile and root it to tether with. And since I am adding a line, I could take advantage of their half-off deals, but I need to know if there are any 5g phones on T-Mobile that will let me root it while it is technically still locked to their service. I know when I rooted a phone earlier this year it was just assumed that it needed to be carrier unlocked first, so it's hard to go look at individual phone forums and see if their unlock methods would work for me or not. Is it possible for any of their offerings to be rooted while still be locked to the carrier?
Thanks in advanced.
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All that really matters is if the device has an unlocked bootloader or, at least, a bootloader that can, in fact, be unlocked using a known/proven method for that exact device.
Devices that have an unlocked/unlockable bootloader can easily root using the Magisk method and/or TWRP, but, not all devices have TWRP available to them. But, the Magisk method works for most devices, provided that they have an unlocked bootloader.
Yes, it can be locked to a carrier and still be rooted. When you see guides discussing unlocking a device in order to root the device, they are not referring to carrier unlocking the device in order to root, they are referring to unlocking the bootloader, which must be done in order to make modifications(such as rooting) to the system software.
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General OnePlus 9 11.2.22.2 (T-Mobile) MSM Download Tool

Oxygen OS 11.2.22.2.LE54CB (T-Mobile)
Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-5RC9f8es6ZrwpYKKQBMmw5gW-rzDSfZ/view?usp=sharing
Size: 2.92 GB
MD5: b6fc004c81d311109f66cceb3f375862

Figured it out

There's no login info. Just select "Other".

Changed the download link to GDrive.

Thank you

is there a steps on how to do this? first time looking at this msm tool.

will this work for software version 11.2.5.5LE53CB

Your current version does not matter. This will flash phone to point that it was when it came out of the box. then you can start over.

Do i lose unlock after convercion

How do you back up the T-Mo modems without going thru the T-Mo bootloader token unlock? I want to try going back to the T-Mo modems to see if they resolve the issues, and then back them up when to reflash when I go back to the EU load.
Thanks!

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Partitions manager
Partitions Backup & Restore - Apps on Google Play
Backup your important partitions to avoid any data or IMEI corruption
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But will it work without root?
I have partition manager.

avid_droid said:
Root is needed. Also,you have to be unlocked to flash any partitions to your device. A locked device doesn't allow flashing.
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I'm not talking about flashing. Just backing up.
I was hoping to get temporary root with a Maoism boot image, back up the modems, and then convert back to European

avid_droid said:
You need root to back up critical partitions. Oh I see what you are trying to do now. Temp root to back up, convert and temp root again to flash.
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Yeah, that's it. I guess I'll have to try it and see. If I still end up with problems, I'm going to have to figure out how to debloat it.

Superguy said:
Yeah, that's it. I guess I'll have to try it and see. If I still end up with problems, I'm going to have to figure out how to debloat it.
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No dice. Won't boot to another image unless it's unlocked.
Waiting for the T-Mo token.

avid_droid said:
Yep. Any critical partition flashing has to be unlocked. There is no other way around it. I've bricked my 9,the one before this one,by flashing the wrong modem on it. Tried MSM and it locked it and I couldn't do anything else to it,meaning flashing anything through bootloader or fastbootd.
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Well, I guess it ended up not mattering much in the end. At least for what I was trying to do.
I'm finding T-Mo's service to just be complete crap, and I've determined it's not the phone. I moved 8 lines over from AT&T. Half were BYOD (all unlocked AT&T Samsung devices, and my son's unlocked OP9), and the other half were Samsung and OP phones bought from T-Mo. Everyone's experiencing bad call quality and coverage issues. Both my family and in-laws live within a mile from known T-Mo towers where we live. I live in a major metro area, my in-laws in a rural area. My parents live in a medium sized city. It's gotten unbearable, and at times, my wife and I have had to resort to texting due to the call quality just being so bad. Cutting out, garbled, etc.
In-laws also have T-Mo's home internet and are having issues with that.
I don't get it despite everything good I've read about T-Mo. None of us had these issues with AT&T.
I'm going to try to work it out with T-Mo, but at least for the time being, I'll just go back to the European ROM. There's no difference in the call quality anyway, and at least there I have root again.

If i flash the T-mo firmware to a global model, will I be unable to unlock the bootloader simply with the adb command, or will I have to go through all the hoops as if I bought the phone directly from t-mobile?

Scholeggo said:
If i flash the T-mo firmware to a global model, will I be unable to unlock the bootloader simply with the adb command, or will I have to go through all the hoops as if I bought the phone directly from t-mobile?
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Yes, but the phone has to be SIM unlocked first.
There is someone who can SIM unlock on here for free, with donations encouraged.

Superguy said:
Yes, but the phone has to be SIM unlocked first.
There is someone who can SIM unlock on here for free, with donations encouraged.
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I'm gonna use the T-Mobile sim card on a global version of the phone. So theoretically the phone would already have been sim unlocked out of the box. What I'm asking is, if i choose to use the T-Mobile msm on the unlocked global model, will it carrier lock me in? If not that means all i have to do is go to developer options and use the unlock command, right?

Scholeggo said:
I'm gonna use the T-Mobile sim card on a global version of the phone. So theoretically the phone would already have been sim unlocked out of the box. What I'm asking is, if i choose to use the T-Mobile msm on the unlocked global model, will it carrier lock me in? If not that means all i have to do is go to developer options and use the unlock command, right?
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No that won't happen to you. You should still be SIM unlocked as flashing software doesn't deal with SIM Locking but it May Lock the Bootloader that I am not Sure of

Superguy said:
Yes, but the phone has to be SIM unlocked first.
There is someone who can SIM unlock on here for free, with donations encouraged.
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Who's currently doing sim unlocking? I'll gladly donate. I've unlocked my bootloader, flashed Magisk and have root access but I'm still sim locked to TMobile.