Related
From my research it seems as if this phone can't be rooted because you cannot unlock the bootloader.
Has anyone tried "Poot to Root" on the Verizon Prepaid Moto G? I don't need an Unlocked Bootloader, just Root access.
I rooted my Kyocera Event (with a locked bootloader) in less than a minute using Poot. From what I have read, Poot to Root is made for Qualcomm phones, and the Moto G is Qualcomm.
So, has anyone tried this yet? Does it work?
Right now this is the only working method to unlock the bootloader.
It costs money, and there's no other known way to root the Verizon Moto G
I notice that the Moto G LTE from Cricket wont permit the Bootloader to be unlocked.
I am wondering, if you have your Cricket Moto G LTE unlocked (by this i mean sim unlock, not bootloader) and you then flash another carrier stock image - i.e. XT1040, etc - would it be possible to then unlock the bootloader? (I am assuming that if you flash XT1040 on XT1045 it's the same hardware, the only issue would be the radios..but if it's sim unlocked, then it shouldn't matter)
Or, is Motorola going by the IMEI #, which would stay the same if you flash another factory image?
spiritflare said:
I notice that the Moto G LTE from Cricket wont permit the Bootloader to be unlocked.
I am wondering, if you have your Cricket Moto G LTE unlocked (by this i mean sim unlock, not bootloader) and you then flash another carrier stock image - i.e. XT1040, etc - would it be possible to then unlock the bootloader? (I am assuming that if you flash XT1040 on XT1045 it's the same hardware, the only issue would be the radios..but if it's sim unlocked, then it shouldn't matter)
Or, is Motorola going by the IMEI #, which would stay the same if you flash another factory image?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also interested in unlocking the Cricket Moto G LTE XT1045 bootloader as well.
Please update if you're able to get this to work.
Pretty sure the generated code is determined from the hardware. So flashing another ROM wouldn't change it.
That being said, I'm pretty sure Cricket versions of the Moto G LTE are never getting Lollipop. I spoke with a Cricket rep yesterday and they said the company had no plans to upgrade. So unless someone here can figure out some magical way to unlock the bootloader, we're all screwed.
Chrono86 said:
Pretty sure the generated code is determined from the hardware. So flashing another ROM wouldn't change it.
That being said, I'm pretty sure Cricket versions of the Moto G LTE are never getting Lollipop. I spoke with a Cricket rep yesterday and they said the company had no plans to upgrade. So unless someone here can figure out some magical way to unlock the bootloader, we're all screwed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I also talked to a Cricket rep yesterday about a Lollipop update. He said it was going to be a manufacturer, not carrier update. I asked him again to confirm because of what Motorola's site said. He confirmed again that it is based on what the manufacturer (Motorola) wants to do.
spiritflare said:
I notice that the Moto G LTE from Cricket wont permit the Bootloader to be unlocked.
I am wondering, if you have your Cricket Moto G LTE unlocked (by this i mean sim unlock, not bootloader) and you then flash another carrier stock image - i.e. XT1040, etc - would it be possible to then unlock the bootloader? (I am assuming that if you flash XT1040 on XT1045 it's the same hardware, the only issue would be the radios..but if it's sim unlocked, then it shouldn't matter)
Or, is Motorola going by the IMEI #, which would stay the same if you flash another factory image?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can't flash ANYTHING with a locked bootloader. Cricket can update it, should they choose to, but as far as Motorola is concerned, Cricket owns the phone - not you. You can't unlock the bootloader unless you bought a RETAIL version of the phone - like I did from Amazon. You paid a lot less by buying the phone from Cricket and, in return, you gave up all right/hope of having an unlocked bootloader.
And, yes, everything goes by the IMEI, which is unique to the phone and never changes. If it were to change, your phone would no longer work on your carrier. The phone using that IMEI is registered as belonging to Cricket - that's why you can't unlock it on it the Motorola site. For the phone I bought at Amazon, I just went to the Motorola site and had my phone bootloader unlocked in five minutes. If you want a bootloader unlockable phone, you don't want to buy it from a carrier.
Update
I just spoke with Cricket who forwarded me to Motorola who said that my Moto G (1st Gen, LTE), purchased through Cricket, would be updated to 5.X within a month.
I'll try to update this if it actually happens. I didn't ask about the bootloader.
Nick C said:
I just spoke with Cricket who forwarded me to Motorola who said that my Moto G (1st Gen, LTE), purchased through Cricket, would be updated to 5.X within a month.
I'll try to update this if it actually happens. I didn't ask about the bootloader.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hmmmmmmmmmm... we shall see....
I got bootloader unlock from cricket phone using china unlock tool.
hard to unlock but i did it take me forever to unlock. bye bye cricket
miniandroidp said:
hard to unlock but i did it take me forever to unlock. bye bye cricket
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you direct me that China unlock tool? I would like to unlock my cricket moto g lte also. Thanks!
Info on unlocking the Cricket XT1032 bootloader can be found in the following link. It's how I unlocked mine back in September.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
DarkVanguard said:
Info on unlocking the Cricket XT1032 bootloader can be found in the following link. It's how I unlocked mine back in September.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you! However, I have Cricket X1045 on 4.4.4. Sunshine doesn't support it yet.
DarkVanguard said:
Info on unlocking the Cricket XT1032 bootloader can be found in the following link. It's how I unlocked mine back in September.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The OP is asking about a Cricket Moto G 4G LTE - different phone than your Xt1032.
FoneWatcher said:
The OP is asking about a Cricket Moto G 4G LTE - different phone than your Xt1032.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nice necro but I was aware of that when I posted my response as I helped the Dev unlock all models of the Cricket Moto G bootloader; provided they weren't running an OS higher than 4.4.3.
Unlocker
miniandroidp said:
hard to unlock but i did it take me forever to unlock. bye bye cricket
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, can you direct me to the china unlocker also please?
I sure hope so. I can't have a phone without root. Unfortunately I'm stuck with verizon....
Sent from Tapatalk
I assume it will be exactly the same as G4 in terms of root/BL.
How can we know now though? Too early to know.
Sent from my BLU LIFE ONE X using Tapatalk
tabp0le said:
I assume it will be exactly the same as G4 in terms of root/BL.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
which was what.. seems like some G4s have root
jaladhjin said:
which was what.. seems like some G4s have root
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately only the intl variants and tmobile have unlocked bootloader which is required for root in android 6.0+
Have you guys heard the Unlocked LG G5 has all Major USA Bands?
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/03/18/unlocked-lg-g5-gsm-cdma/
any update on bootloader
krazie1 said:
Have you guys heard the Unlocked LG G5 has all Major USA Bands?
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/03/18/unlocked-lg-g5-gsm-cdma/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The discussion is about an unlocked bootloader, not an unlocked carrier situation.
If an unlocked boot loader version existed, it would be called a developer version and it wouldn't be likely to be picked up in large enough numbers to see much real public development.
Basically, it will most likely be MONTHS before you see a leak or hack to unlock the boot loader if EVER. It will be a long time before you even see root if the G4 and V10 (just got root very recently) are anything to go by.
Since mobile device payments have become all the rage, carriers and device manufactures are extra motivated to lock down their devices. The Galaxy S7 and S7 edge (same processor as the G5) are so locked down (even on T-mobile) using Qualcomms secure boot methods that it does a check to verify the main partition before it loads the contents to memory meaning a root can only be done temporarily (live rooted) if an exploit is ever found and will have to be rerooted every reboot. Android developers are going to have to struggle with qualcomm devices especially to develop into the the future.
manaox2 said:
The discussion is about an unlocked bootloader, not an unlocked carrier situation.
If an unlocked boot loader version existed, it would be called a developer version and it wouldn't be likely to be picked up in large enough numbers to see much real public development.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If the G5 is carrier unlocked, then wouldn't we simply be able to purchase a T-Mobile variant, get it unlocked, and then use it with a Verizon Sim?
dtroup64 said:
If the G5 is carrier unlocked, then wouldn't we simply be able to purchase a T-Mobile variant, get it unlocked, and then use it with a Verizon Sim?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As long as you don't mind paying full price or carrying a second contract and T-Mobile agrees to unlock it. Hopefully development would still be decent with just the t-mobile variant.
dtroup64 said:
If the G5 is carrier unlocked, then wouldn't we simply be able to purchase a T-Mobile variant, get it unlocked, and then use it with a Verizon Sim?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately Verizon is very strict on what devices can be activated with one of their SIMs. Most likely they would block a Tmobile or international variant on their network. This is the case with the G4 already.
We got root on the V10, not an unlocked bootloader though (yet). Here's to hoping we can get at least root on the G5 in the same manner...need those magic TOT files!
thedrizzle said:
We got root on the V10, not an unlocked bootloader though (yet). Here's to hoping we can get at least root on the G5 in the same manner...need those magic TOT files!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We will need more than the TOT file to root the G5. Starting with Android 6.0, Google made changes so that root requires a modified kernel. Changes to system.img will not be enough. Since this involves tampering with the boot.img, the locked bootloader will prevent the phone from booting at all.
Here's hoping we don't have a repeat of the G4 or V10 when it comes to locked bootloaders.
Should I not update my device to keep it as developer friendly as possible (I am preordering it)
manaox2 said:
As long as you don't mind paying full price or carrying a second contract and T-Mobile agrees to unlock it. Hopefully development would still be decent with just the t-mobile variant.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Or not having 3g CDMA where there's no LTE.
Anyone working on a root method yet?
This is bull crap why does tmo get a unlocked bl and not everyone else?
Why are people so afraid of it? Just let us enter our serial and we download a program. We void our warranty but how bout you let us take thst risk!?
Sorry Bad post!!
soundgirl101 said:
:crying::crying:None of LG G5 variants have an unlockable bootloader!! This is due primarily to Google agreements with various credit card providers for Android "Tap and Pay" feature to be used!! Other variants, like T-Mobile, will have an "OEM Unlock" feature in developer options!! This will "carrier unlock" the carrier restriction so the phone can go to different "lesser or smaller" cell providers!! Verizon for example has a strict policy on activation of mobile devices on their network!! A non-Verizon G5 will not activate on their network at this time!! With all the security measures, LG's custom locked bootloader with kernel verify, rooting will be unlikely!!:crying::crying: While a "recovery" is available, without root permissions to flash or push the image, it's just a file on the computer!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are guys in the T-Mobile forum who have successfully unlocked their bootloader . I just picked up the g5 today. It's working well so far . how good is LG with updates ?
Sent from my VS987 using XDA-Developers mobile app
soundgirl101 said:
:crying::crying:None of LG G5 variants have an unlockable bootloader!! This is due primarily to Google agreements with various credit card providers for Android "Tap and Pay" feature to be used!! Other variants, like T-Mobile, will have an "OEM Unlock" feature in developer options!! This will "carrier unlock" the carrier restriction so the phone can go to different "lesser or smaller" cell providers!! Verizon for example has a strict policy on activation of mobile devices on their network!! A non-Verizon G5 will not activate on their network at this time!! With all the security measures, LG's custom locked bootloader with kernel verify, rooting will be unlikely!!:crying::crying: While a "recovery" is available, without root permissions to flash or push the image, it's just a file on the computer!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is NOT what the OEM Unlock function does at all.
Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk
So on motorola.com they offer the Moto Z4 Unlocked and the Moto Z4 Verizon. Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the unlocked version? I know Verizon locks down all phones. and is it possible to use the carrier unlocked version on Verizon? I know some of the old phones didn't have the correct band to work with Verizon's network but things change and Verizon is now offering bring your own device now.
I'm still rocking the Z force with the shatterproof screen is there any news if Motorola going to bring it back on any new phone?
Marco0070 said:
So on motorola.com they offer the Moto Z4 Unlocked and the Moto Z4 Verizon. Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the unlocked version? I know Verizon locks down all phones. and is it possible to use the carrier unlocked version on Verizon? I know some of the old phones didn't have the correct band to work with Verizon's network but things change and Verizon is now offering bring your own device now.
I'm still rocking the Z force with the shatterproof screen is there any news if Motorola going to bring it back on any new phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can indeed unlock the BL on the unlocked model, and I do believe it is compatible with VZW, however, the Unlocked model won't work with the Verizon 5G Moto mod, even if its on Verizons network. I believe only the VZW model will work with the 5g mod...
bdizzle1686 said:
You can indeed unlock the BL on the unlocked model, and I do believe it is compatible with VZW, however, the Unlocked model won't work with the Verizon 5G Moto mod, even if its on Verizons network. I believe only the VZW model will work with the 5g mod...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm in Los Angeles so its going to be some time before the 5G is up and running here. I'm more interested in the bootloader part of it and if it has band 13 working?
Moto z⁴ unlocked $499.99 connectivity Networks + bands
LTE:B1/B2/B3/B4/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28/B30/B38/B40/B41/B41HPUE/B66/B71
UMTS: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
looks like it is compatible on Verizon and AT&T B13 and B17 now i just need proof of bootloader unlocked :fingers-crossed:
Z4 unlocked version on Verizon here, works fine.
I mentioned this in another thread - I did successfully get a bootloader unlock code from the Moto site, but haven't actually done the unlock yet.
wraith1932 said:
Z4 unlocked version on Verizon here, works fine.
I mentioned this in another thread - I did successfully get a bootloader unlock code from the Moto site, but haven't actually done the unlock yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you its still a fairly new phone but you would think there should be more info on it. if you ever do unlock it can you post a video please.
I have ordered the phone from Motorola, looking very much forward to using this phone with a custom Rom like LineageOS so I am hoping the Rom support will soon pick up. Here is a good walkthrough I found for unlocking the bootloader.
https://myphoneupdate.com/unlock-bootloader-motorola-moto-z4/
DrakeJones said:
I have ordered the phone from Motorola, looking very much forward to using this phone with a custom Rom like LineageOS so I am hoping the Rom support will soon pick up. Here is a good walkthrough I found for unlocking the bootloader.
https://myphoneupdate.com/unlock-bootloader-motorola-moto-z4/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
very cool keep us posted when you unlock bootloader please :good:
Noob question. I'm still on my old Note 3 but looking at possibly upgrading to the z4. Don't you have to root the phone before you can unlock the bootloader?
shallmann said:
Noob question. I'm still on my old Note 3 but looking at possibly upgrading to the z4. Don't you have to root the phone before you can unlock the bootloader?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No its the other way around its easier to root the phone after you unlock the bootloader. To root your Android phone (i.e. gain administrative access), you'll need to unlock your bootloader first.
Marco0070 said:
Moto z⁴ unlocked $499.99 connectivity Networks + bands
LTE:B1/B2/B3/B4/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B18/B19/B20/B25/B26/B28/B30/B38/B40/B41/B41HPUE/B66/B71
UMTS: B1/B2/B4/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
looks like it is compatible on Verizon and AT&T B13 and B17 now i just need proof of bootloader unlocked :fingers-crossed:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just bought the moto z4 on Verizon. I was surprised to find that the allow bootloader access wasn't blocked or removed from the developer menu and it was already switched on.
Marco0070 said:
No its the other way around its easier to root the phone after you unlock the bootloader. To root your Android phone (i.e. gain administrative access), you'll need to unlock your bootloader first.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your reply. It was backwards with Samsung. In fact for a while I was rooted but couldn't unlock the bootloader.
tenacious soul said:
I just bought the moto z4 on Verizon. I was surprised to find that the allow bootloader access wasn't blocked or removed from the developer menu and it was already switched on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That doesn't really do anything especially on the verizon model. On the unlocked carrier version you need to switch that on then unlock the bootloader with a code that motorola gives you.
shallmann said:
Thanks for your reply. It was backwards with Samsung. In fact for a while I was rooted but couldn't unlock the bootloader.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is true with a lot of phones but that's a temporary root or a hacked root. Verizon doesn't like their phones to be rooted or bootloader unlocked so they send "security" updates to patch root access to phones that developers found hacks to gain root access to. But if the bootloader is unlocked they can't patch that so you can remove root update your phone then root it again very easily.
bdizzle1686 said:
You can indeed unlock the BL on the unlocked model, and I do believe it is compatible with VZW, however, the Unlocked model won't work with the Verizon 5G Moto mod, even if its on Verizons network. I believe only the VZW model will work with the 5g mod...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
actually called VZW about this a couple weeks back, tier 1 guy went "uhh, hold a sec, I'll get you to tier 2" tier 2 "good question, i need to ask network and provisioning" the eventual answer was yes they will work.
The only problem i can see, is from what i understand, moto mods are hit and miss with custom roms, so stock will be fine, custom depends.
tenacious soul said:
I just bought the moto z4 on Verizon. I was surprised to find that the allow bootloader access wasn't blocked or removed from the developer menu and it was already switched on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a negative here on my end. Verizon z4 and everything was good until I entered the code from fastboot into the field on the moto website; says "your device cannot be unlocked". love verizon.
I have a brand new Z4 XT1980-3 that I just unlocked (bootloader unlock). The only problem with this model is that WiFi calling and Video calling are not possible on Verizon. Apparently they don't support those features on the XT1980-3. Those features are only available on the Verizon version (XT1980-4). So now that I'm bootloader unlocked, can I just flash the XT1980-4 firmware on the phone? Is that even possible? And will it enable the advanced calling features? I already downloaded the May 2019 firmware from here: https://www.getdroidtips.com/motoro...e-and-firmware-collections-back-to-stock-rom/
Just want to make sure it's safe to flash, and if it will in fact enable WiFi and video calling on the Verizon network. Thanks!
Got it figured out. Enjoy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z4/help/verizon-volte-wi-fi-calling-support-t3940664
clevertrevor777 said:
Got it figured out. Enjoy:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z4/help/verizon-volte-wi-fi-calling-support-t3940664
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can't wait to see it working
Hi guys, I am hoping I can get some help since I am needing to get a 5g phone on T-Mobile and root it to tether with. And since I am adding a line, I could take advantage of their half-off deals, but I need to know if there are any 5g phones on T-Mobile that will let me root it while it is technically still locked to their service. I know when I rooted a phone earlier this year it was just assumed that it needed to be carrier unlocked first, so it's hard to go look at individual phone forums and see if their unlock methods would work for me or not. Is it possible for any of their offerings to be rooted while still be locked to the carrier?
Thanks in advanced.
One of the phones T-Mobile sells with 5G is the OnePlus 8...
Nate Rules said:
Hi guys, I am hoping I can get some help since I am needing to get a 5g phone on T-Mobile and root it to tether with. And since I am adding a line, I could take advantage of their half-off deals, but I need to know if there are any 5g phones on T-Mobile that will let me root it while it is technically still locked to their service. I know when I rooted a phone earlier this year it was just assumed that it needed to be carrier unlocked first, so it's hard to go look at individual phone forums and see if their unlock methods would work for me or not. Is it possible for any of their offerings to be rooted while still be locked to the carrier?
Thanks in advanced.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All that really matters is if the device has an unlocked bootloader or, at least, a bootloader that can, in fact, be unlocked using a known/proven method for that exact device.
Devices that have an unlocked/unlockable bootloader can easily root using the Magisk method and/or TWRP, but, not all devices have TWRP available to them. But, the Magisk method works for most devices, provided that they have an unlocked bootloader.
Yes, it can be locked to a carrier and still be rooted. When you see guides discussing unlocking a device in order to root the device, they are not referring to carrier unlocking the device in order to root, they are referring to unlocking the bootloader, which must be done in order to make modifications(such as rooting) to the system software.
Sent from my SM-S767VL using Tapatalk