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I am starting an encyclopedia and would like the community's help. Please, contact me if you're interested in helping. I'm wanting to get the following information for each device. What started this was when I needed to unbrick and re-root a friend's phone... took forever and all over to find the info. Here's what we need:
How to root (Windows, Ubuntu, Mac, Z4Root/Gingerbreak/Other) One-clicks are OK if they work, manual methods welcome also!
How to unroot (same as above)
The device's specs.. what carrier, etc... (though I can probably get most of this)
How to perform a system restore (SBF, ODIN, etc..) We need to get a valid link for the required files.
You can send these to me via PM's or word docs/google docs @ [email protected]
I would appreciate it, and I'm sure the community would as well. I will be spending all my free time devoted to gathering info. Thanks a ton! Any one who helps will be rewarded with mentions and adshare, etc... when everything comes together. If you're not interested in that, it's fine, just tell me and we'll at least mention you. Thanks!
Sean
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So, I suppose you -- like me -- opened this thread to find out how to take your brand new (or new to you) GT+wifi and take the power back from Samsung by rooting and installing custom firmware! Well... Here's the deal: this forum is a complete mess. The small number of guides are either difficult to follow or incompatible with one another. Links for downloads are mostly dead and everything is completely out of date. If you're like me this drives you crazy...
The best forums in XDA have become so because of a few people. Most importantly, of course, are the developers; without them this place wouldn't have a reason to exist. But almost as important as the developers are a small number of users who take up the task of helping other users by writing guides and instruction manuals, and answering questions. This is what the GT+ forum lacks.
So here's what I'm proposing to do. I'd like to create a wiki post that I'll update with guides and working links. I'll keep it up-to-date so that a newbie can open the thread, look at the TOP of the first post, and get their tablet working within a few hours. It will make the entire experience more satisfying both both users and developers. But I can't do it without your help: I don't know jack about this tab (just got it last week). So post your info below and I'll update soon.
Good one buddy. But I don't agree with you on the mess part. There is no much cfw because samsung does not want to release some code. So we have "only" optimized and cleaner versions of stock rom, and a heroically port of cm9 but without wifi.
And if you try to put a lot of links and information on first post, good luck. Noobs dont like to read, you will get 95% of posts of people asking how to root or other thing that someone answered 1 post above.
The idea of make mirrors of links is very welcome.
EDIT: This will be very helpful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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slack04 said:
So, I suppose you -- like me -- opened this thread to find out how to take your brand new (or new to you) GT+wifi and take the power back from Samsung by rooting and installing custom firmware! Well... Here's the deal: this forum is a complete mess. The small number of guides are either difficult to follow or incompatible with one another. Links for downloads are mostly dead and everything is completely out of date. If you're like me this drives you crazy...
The best forums in XDA have become so because of a few people. Most importantly, of course, are the developers; without them this place wouldn't have a reason to exist. But almost as important as the developers are a small number of users who take up the task of helping other users by writing guides and instruction manuals, and answering questions. This is what the GT+ forum lacks.
So here's what I'm proposing to do. I'd like to create a wiki post that I'll update with guides and working links. I'll keep it up-to-date so that a newbie can open the thread, look at the TOP of the first post, and get their tablet working within a few hours. It will make the entire experience more satisfying both both users and developers. But I can't do it without your help: I don't know jack about this tab (just got it last week). So post your info below and I'll update soon.
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I suggest that someone instead creates an index with all the roms most important info, links etc. like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
I'd be able to do it, but a little help would be appreciated
I believe a relative attempted to install via oden, A Verizon based module on this phone using odin. I am so unlearned about the android os that I do not know the terminology even to use here. Not complaints but just info, I am now victim to two arsons and thus homeless and rebuilding and so little time this is first chance I have had to post about this in some time.
I am not very adept at finding articles here so would appreciate any help any can provide.
I wish to and will learn all there is to know about Android some time in future and will master most of it except programing.
For now any help with any post or articles or what have you would be appreciated as well as any live help should someone so care to provide
You are welcome to PM or email me as well. [email protected].
If I am allowed to post this, I would consider paid help as well. If not allowed to post any part of this or if in wrong area, please help me correct my actions.
Thank you all in advance.
Gh / Charlie
GH
Gladhatter said:
I believe a relative attempted to install via oden, A Verizon based module on this phone using odin. I am so unlearned about the android os that I do not know the terminology even to use here. Not complaints but just info, I am now victim to two arsons and thus homeless and rebuilding and so little time this is first chance I have had to post about this in some time.
I am not very adept at finding articles here so would appreciate any help any can provide.
I wish to and will learn all there is to know about Android some time in future and will master most of it except programing.
For now any help with any post or articles or what have you would be appreciated as well as any live help should someone so care to provide
You are welcome to PM or email me as well. [email protected].
If I am allowed to post this, I would consider paid help as well. If not allowed to post any part of this or if in wrong area, please help me correct my actions.
Thank you all in advance.
Gh / Charlie
GH
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Hi,
Here is a thread on returning your device to stock with Odin, http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...mware-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2942937
And as far as wanting to learn about Android and the things found on XDA, my only advice is to read read read. There is a lot of info out there, just search on terms or procedures you are curious about and read through the search results.
For your device, you can start with this thread to learn more about it... http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/guide-to-note-4-wip-t2939288
You can ask questions there as well!
Good luck!
Ty, Darth. Sorry for my noobness. I cannot seem to locate in the reccomended thereds, any thing about USCelluar phones or any link to any Rom, Kernal or what ever it is called. I do now know odin was improperly used and possibly a verizon upload was made to the phone and then on panic odin was ran and all possible options tried like flash tlock partition and any other options except pit.
I have not a clue where to start to fix it. I have been reading but if I seen any possible solutions, I missed them. Can someone please point me to some factory iriginal files for the USC NOTE 4 and some knowledge of how to use them? If some other files would work, where verizon or what have you, glad to try that to. The phone in question has never been on line or assigned any phone number since new. Not sure that matters. I do not mind messing it up further or experimenting to learn or help devs if any needed.
Thanks
Gh
I suggest then asking about your device here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/noob-friendly-question-t2866810
But I will tell you... Reading and research is a part of this hobby. Without doing a lot of that, people end up with big problems usually.
Here is the main note 4 section, I recommend reading through some of the sticky threads in the general and Q&A sections. Those are the threads at the top with a thumb tack symbol beside them. :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4
After you've read up and know a little more, then I'd worry about roms and whatnot. And any further questions can be asked in the first thread I linked in this post.
Good luck again!
I am confident in only big solutions. I thank you for your kindness and patience. I am only sorry that I do not know a rom from a kernal or a brick for now. I regret, I am not smart enough as well to follow the links so well or derive from then when I can. I do have unbreakable tenacity however and never lose a war due to it. The outcome for me is obvious but the time frame not so nice to me as I will not have time to read much for some months and now seek a quuick fix for a quick fix of feeling human again, for now. Any advise for a direct link to some adb and fast boot drivers? Seems this may be the sutipn and not odin for now. Seems I need to get what ever the file is called into the phone or files to recover to as mine goes to recovery every time but then losds the bum files it has stired. Would be nice to know how to idenify the files but all in good time.
You will need to ask in the threads provided. Xda Assist is here to help navigate the site, not for support.
If you have no time to read, and want things done quick, then I suggest to you that your heading down a risky path... And your device could suffer.
Also, XDA is a place to learn and share... Without doing your part here, meaning reading, you will have trouble getting people to help.
Thanks, and thread closed.
I do not know and don't have more time to dig into the details of rooting a phone (although I have already spent hours scrolling here and looking for basic knowledge). However I want to root my new u12+.
I successfully rooted my last phone according to a guide I found on this forum, which was a friendly, step-by-step, detailed guide for noobs like myself: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-k10/how-to/friendly-root-method-lg-k8-k10-t3531223
I know there's a guide for u12+ here but it isn't detailed enough which I find it difficult to follow. I am looking forward to a guide which is as detailed as the one above. Please help.
GphonePrince said:
I do not know and don't have more time to dig into the details of rooting a phone (although I have already spent hours scrolling here and looking for basic knowledge). However I want to root my new u12+.
I successfully rooted my last phone according to a guide I found on this forum, which was a friendly, step-by-step, detailed guide for noobs like myself: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-k10/how-to/friendly-root-method-lg-k8-k10-t3531223
I know there's a guide for u12+ here but it isn't detailed enough which I find it difficult to follow. I am looking forward to a guide which is as detailed as the one above. Please help.
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If my guide is too difficult to follow for you, you should probably wait a bit longer until twrp is available. This will make things easier.
But to be honest my guide is pretty detailed and describes each step that needs to be taken.
as already mentioned in the thread you should always research properly before blindly following “friendly” guides.
I think with a tiny bit of research the guide is pretty easy to follow.
with that said, if you face a specific hurdle or question you cannot solve with proper research, just post in my thread and I’m sure myself or somebody else will help you out
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If my guide is too difficult to follow for you, you should probably wait a bit longer until twrp is available. This will make things easier.
But to be honest my guide is pretty detailed and describes each step that needs to be taken.
as already mentioned in the thread you should always research properly before blindly following “friendly” guides.
I think with a tiny bit of research the guide is pretty easy to follow.
with that said, if you face a specific hurdle or question you cannot solve with proper research, just post in my thread and I’m sure myself or somebody else will help you out
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it's not only about 'researching properly'.
Thing is, for instance, reading the first few lines from your 'detailed' guide, I already don't know how to obtain the 2 prerequisites:
- latest adb and fastboot binaries
- working adb and fastboot environment
and for the first prerequisite, I already have a bunch of questions to ask despite already researching for hours on XDA:
1. I searched and found something called 15 seconds adb but how can I ensure it's the latest? it was posted a few years ago
2. I know fastboot is a mode which my phone can boot to but what are fastboot 'BINARIES'? what is a binary even? is the thing included in the package I download from the above thread?
3. what is a working adb and fastboot environment and how to obtain/achieve/test whether I have already got it?
and then what are boot images and I couldn't find/download the boot.img of my version. I cannot see mine from the google drive link from another thread - this problem has been described in your thread too
I think more descriptions or download links would be more helpful for guiding us to achieve these - to be more specific, a presentation like the thread of rooting K10 I provided above is what I am looking for. I know it might be just noobs like me who need it but yea, I do need something like this so I would insist on requesting a more 'friendly' and detailed guide of your same method so that I could perform what you are describing in your guide accurately. See if anyone can help if you are not into writing one.
GphonePrince said:
it's not only about 'researching properly'.
Thing is, for instance, reading the first few lines from your 'detailed' guide, I already don't know how to obtain the 2 prerequisites:
- latest adb and fastboot binaries
- working adb and fastboot environment
and for the first prerequisite, I already have a bunch of questions to ask despite already researching for hours on XDA:
1. I searched and found something called 15 seconds adb but how can I ensure it's the latest? it was posted a few years ago
2. I know fastboot is a mode which my phone can boot to but what are fastboot 'BINARIES'? what is a binary even? is the thing included in the package I download from the above thread?
3. what is a working adb and fastboot environment and how to obtain/achieve/test whether I have already got it?
and then what are boot images and I couldn't find/download the boot.img of my version. I cannot see mine from the google drive link from another thread - this problem has been described in your thread too
I think more descriptions or download links would be more helpful for guiding us to achieve these - to be more specific, a presentation like the thread of rooting K10 I provided above is what I am looking for. I know it might be just noobs like me who need it but yea, I do need something like this so I would insist on requesting a more 'friendly' and detailed guide of your same method so that I could perform what you are describing in your guide accurately. See if anyone can help if you are not into writing one.
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@Freak07 went out of his way to give everyone a VERY user friendly guide for rooting. It really couldn't be simpler. Sorry but if there are things in there you don't understand then it is on you to research it and learn, rather than the responsibility of the community to break it down. If you post your questions people will be more than willing to help explain things but the responsibility is on you.
The guide for rooting really couldn't be easier than what was posted. Very user friendly. If that's still too much than just as Freak said, you should wait for twrp to be available.
GphonePrince said:
it's not only about 'researching properly'.
Thing is, for instance, reading the first few lines from your 'detailed' guide, I already don't know how to obtain the 2 prerequisites:
- latest adb and fastboot binaries
- working adb and fastboot environment
and for the first prerequisite, I already have a bunch of questions to ask despite already researching for hours on XDA:
1. I searched and found something called 15 seconds adb but how can I ensure it's the latest? it was posted a few years ago
2. I know fastboot is a mode which my phone can boot to but what are fastboot 'BINARIES'? what is a binary even? is the thing included in the package I download from the above thread?
3. what is a working adb and fastboot environment and how to obtain/achieve/test whether I have already got it?
and then what are boot images and I couldn't find/download the boot.img of my version. I cannot see mine from the google drive link from another thread - this problem has been described in your thread too
I think more descriptions or download links would be more helpful for guiding us to achieve these - to be more specific, a presentation like the thread of rooting K10 I provided above is what I am looking for. I know it might be just noobs like me who need it but yea, I do need something like this so I would insist on requesting a more 'friendly' and detailed guide of your same method so that I could perform what you are describing in your guide accurately. See if anyone can help if you are not into writing one.
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it´s all about researching properly! I will demonstarte it to you!
1. if I google "latest fastboot and adb binaries"
https://www.google.com/search?q=latest+adb+and+fastboot+binaries
the very first article from xda points you to a direct download link from google.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-releases-separate-adb-and-fastboot-binary-downloads/
the article even states that these will remain the latest binaries. But just so you can see the actual version try "adb version" in terminal.
there are many guides on xda on how to set up your fastboot/adb folder/environment depending on your OS! just try to follow one and see if adb/fastboot commands actually work.
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_file
the adb and fastboot binaries are the files inside the downloaded package from 1. called adb and fastboot. (the filename extension may vary with your OS)
3. regarding researching
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021205
this was the first link that appeared on a simple google of
"how to check if adb is working"
I think I will include this actually in my guide as it seems a good idea to check if adb/fastboot is working.
Working adb environment can be checked with the command
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working fastboot environment with
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DaConcho said:
@Freak07 went out of his way to give everyone a VERY user friendly guide for rooting. It really couldn't be simpler. Sorry but if there are things in there you don't understand then it is on you to research it and learn, rather than the responsibility of the community to break it down. If you post your questions people will be more than willing to help explain things but the responsibility is on you.
The guide for rooting really couldn't be easier than what was posted. Very user friendly. If that's still too much than just as Freak said, you should wait for twrp to be available.
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You said freak's guide requires further researching on your first paragraph and then said his guide cannot be more friendly on your second. isn't it contradicting? To the noobs like myself, if it cannot be more friendly, no further researches should be needed just like the example I posted for LG K10. Also, I have never said that it's the responsibility for anyone to break it down. I simple knew that a more detailed guide is possible and requested it. If someone is willing to write one, they will; and if not, then nothing I can do. It was never a burden/responsibility on anyone. Are you hinting that I don't have the rights of requesting a more detailed guide because requesting = believing that it is the the responsibility of someone?
I mean, all I want is also very simple - a step-by-step guide that is as detailed and 'friendly' enough for noobs so that no researches are required as the one for LG K10. I am not here to invoke any disappointments or criticising freak's guide or anything in the first place. I already said it is just not noobs-friendly and it's on the noobs like myself, who couldn't understand/don't have the time to understand freak's guide. I am not blaming/have never blamed anyone. You all don't need to be defensive for freak's guide, it's a good enough guide for non-noobs I acknowledge. Therefore, I standby my request for a more 'friendly' guide for noobs just like the one example I shown above for LG K10. I hope someone understands what I want and would spend some time on writing one, instead of wasting time arguing/defending for "freak's guide is friendly".
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it´s all about researching properly! I will demonstarte it to you!
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maybe you're right about researching properly. Again, it's on the noobs being a noob not on you and I appreciate your good work. but still, my main point is, I would like to cordially request a step-by-step guide that is detailed and 'friendly' enough that even noobs can use without further researches just like the example I have shown for LG K10. why? because
1) noobs like me don't have the time/the ability to 'research properly' (I have already spent hours to research, and still encountering problems, and every time I get stuck, I need to ask some nooby questions (which could clearly be solved by simply stating more steps) in the thread and wait for someone to reply and I get stuck nearly every single step. How many more weeks/months do I need to spend on this? I have a very busy schedule.)
2) You have made a great guide for non-noobs, I appreaciate it but the fact is, even it might be the fault of being a noob, only a guide like the one I posted for LG K10 could actually help me rooting my phone. Therefore, I standby my request for a more 'friendly' guide for noobs just like the one example I shown above for LG K10. I hope someone understands what I want and would spend some time on writing one, instead of wasting time arguing/defending for "freak's guide is friendly for all or for experts only".
I am not blaming/have never blamed anyone and don't want to argue. I have only one clear goal from start - a request on a more detailed guide. If you don't want to fulfill my request, that's fine you can just walk away but please stop trying to argue that the forum doesn't need a guide for noobs and drive away potential members who are willing to write them. It is always good for the forum to have both versions, 'noob-friendly rooting guide' and 'rooting guide for experts'.
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You said freak's guide requires further researching on your first paragraph and then said his guide cannot be more friendly on your second. isn't it contradicting? To the noobs like myself, if it cannot be more friendly, no further researches should be needed just like the example I posted for LG K10. Also, I have never said that it's the responsibility for anyone to break it down. I simple knew that a more detailed guide is possible and requested it. If someone is willing to write one, they will; and if not, then nothing I can do. It was never a burden/responsibility on anyone. Are you hinting that I don't have the rights of requesting a more detailed guide because requesting = believing that it is the the responsibility of someone?
I mean, all I want is also very simple - a step-by-step guide that is as detailed and 'friendly' enough for noobs so that no researches are required as the one for LG K10. I am not here to invoke any disappointments or criticising freak's guide or anything in the first place. I already said it is just not noobs-friendly and it's on the noobs like myself, who couldn't understand/don't have the time to understand freak's guide. I am not blaming/have never blamed anyone. You all don't need to be defensive for freak's guide, it's a good enough guide for non-noobs I acknowledge. Therefore, I standby my request for a more 'friendly' guide for noobs just like the one example I shown above for LG K10. I hope someone understands what I want and would spend some time on writing one, instead of wasting time arguing/defending for "freak's guide is friendly".
maybe you're right about researching properly. Again, it's on the noobs being a noob not on you and I appreciate your good work. but still, my main point is, I would like to cordially request a step-by-step guide that is detailed and 'friendly' enough that even noobs can use without further researches just like the example I have shown for LG K10. why? because
1) noobs like me don't have the time/the ability to 'research properly' (I have already spent hours to research, and still encountering problems, and every time I get stuck, I need to ask some nooby questions (which could clearly be solved by simply stating more steps) in the thread and wait for someone to reply and I get stuck nearly every single step. How many more weeks/months do I need to spend on this? I have a very busy schedule.)
2) You have made a great guide for non-noobs, I appreaciate it but the fact is, even it might be the fault of being a noob, only a guide like the one I posted for LG K10 could actually help me rooting my phone. Therefore, I standby my request for a more 'friendly' guide for noobs just like the one example I shown above for LG K10. I hope someone understands what I want and would spend some time on writing one, instead of wasting time arguing/defending for "freak's guide is friendly for all or for experts only".
I am not blaming/have never blamed anyone and don't want to argue. I have only one clear goal from start - a request on a more detailed guide. If you don't want to fulfill my request, that's fine you can just walk away but please stop trying to argue that the forum doesn't need a guide for noobs and drive away potential members who are willing to write them. It is always good for the forum to have both versions, 'noob-friendly rooting guide' and 'rooting guide for experts'.
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So I took a look at the guide you linked us to.
Half of the links are deleted by a moderator. They probably pointed to some videos that are not allowed on XDA, because they generate income of some sort. So it seems to me.
Personally I feel that my guide is as detailed as the one you linked. And less confusing.
My guide explains how to root the your U12+ (with the current state of things - means no fully working TWRP) and a ton more things. I intentionally left out how to unlock your bootloader, set up adb and fastboot. The simple reason is that there are tons! of guides out on XDA which are just a simple XDA or Google search away.
Ultimately XDA is a place to learn and strive forward as a community. You don´t want to learn, you just want a guide that explains every little detail. ( at best with photos and videos) If you don´t have the time to research at least a little bit, my offer still stands. Wait for a working TWRP as it will simplify the matter.
We already explained to you, there are many people that answer specific questions that arise on your path. Other people profit from these answered questions, in case you ask them and post them in the corresponding thread.
I already answered your last 3 questions. So you should at least be able to start and see where it brings you.
I´m also not deaf to any valuable feedback. I already added that "how to check if adb is actually working" to the guide as it seemed a good idea to me.
So please feel free to contribute, what´s ultimately the purpose of a community.
The other question were asked and answered. If there is no firmware zip for your current firmware version, wait until it is uploaded or kindly ask in the firmware thread if anybody is able to share it.
Otherwise there is a bit of risk involved because you have no way of obtaining the stock boot.img from your current firmware.
here is answered what a boot.img is
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21173628/what-is-boot-img-file-in-android
I even give you one more information. Because this is an A/B device with a bit of a different partition layout, the recovery, which usually has its own partition, sits in the ramdisk, which is part of the boot.img.
Freak07 said:
So I took a look at the guide you linked us to.
Half of the links are deleted by a moderator. They probably pointed to some videos that are not allowed on XDA, because they generate income of some sort. So it seems to me.
Personally I feel that my guide is as detailed as the one you linked. And less confusing.
My guide explains how to root the your U12+ (with the current state of things - means no fully working TWRP) and a ton more things. I intentionally left out how to unlock your bootloader, set up adb and fastboot. The simple reason is that there are tons! of guides out on XDA which are just a simple XDA or Google search away.
Ultimately XDA is a place to learn and strive forward as a community. You don´t want to learn, you just want a guide that explains every little detail. ( at best with photos and videos) If you don´t have the time to research at least a little bit, my offer still stands. Wait for a working TWRP as it will simplify the matter.
We already explained to you, there are many people that answer specific questions that arise on your path. Other people profit from these answered questions, in case you ask them and post them in the corresponding thread.
I already answered your last 3 questions. So you should at least be able to start and see where it brings you.
I´m also not deaf to any valuable feedback. I already added that "how to check if adb is actually working" to the guide as it seemed a good idea to me.
So please feel free to contribute, what´s ultimately the purpose of a community.
The other question were asked and answered. If there is no firmware zip for your current firmware version, wait until it is uploaded or kindly ask in the firmware thread if anybody is able to share it.
Otherwise there is a bit of risk involved because you have no way of obtaining the stock boot.img from your current firmware.
here is answered what a boot.img is
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21173628/what-is-boot-img-file-in-android
I even give you one more information. Because this is an A/B device with a bit of a different partition layout, the recovery, which usually has its own partition, sits in the ramdisk, which is part of the boot.img.
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Despite already answered by you, since that actually further brings up tons of follow up questions of mine, mind leaving me your instant messaging contact? Like WhatsApp or telegram or discord etc. As you have admitted, your guide needs tons of further researching (as you know there are tons of articles but I don't know which one is the one I'm looking for and suitable for my phone) and the link I have as an example doesn't (deleted links were screenshots and YouTube videos by the op). is not I am expecting rapid back and forth asking and clarifying into details on each question. Asking in the forum is too slow and not time efficient
GphonePrince said:
Despite already answered by you, since that actually further brings up tons of follow up questions of mine, mind leaving me your instant messaging contact? Like WhatsApp or telegram or discord etc. As you have admitted, your guide needs tons of further researching (as you know there are tons of articles but I don't know which one is the one I'm looking for and suitable for my phone) and the link I have as an example doesn't (deleted links were screenshots and YouTube videos by the op). is not I am expecting rapid back and forth asking and clarifying into details on each question. Asking in the forum is too slow and not time efficient
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No sorry I won´t do that. If this forum is too time inefficient for you, you can look elsewhere for a more detailed guide or wait until a better one appears here that suits your needs.
You´re asking others to invest time so you can save your own time. You´re asking for knowledge from people, who invest time to obtain this knowledge. Part of this forum is to post questions here, so others can actually profit from the questions answered. Just like you would profit if you´d actually start searching here.
And please don´t put any words into my mouth, that I never said. My guide doesn´t need "tons" of research, just because there are more than enough guides out there.
We can stop here, because you´re clearly asking for a thing which XDA is not about.
If anyone else steps up and writes a more detailed guide that person is very welcome to do so I´m not preventing anyone.
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No sorry I won´t do that. If this forum is too time inefficient for you, you can look elsewhere for a more detailed guide or wait until a better one appears here that suits your needs.
You´re asking others to invest time so you can save your own time. You´re asking for knowledge from people, who invest time to obtain this knowledge. Part of this forum is to post questions here, so others can actually profit from the questions answered. Just like you would profit if you´d actually start searching here.
And please don´t put any words into my mouth, that I never said. My guide doesn´t need "tons" of research, just because there are more than enough guides out there.
We can stop here, because you´re clearly asking for a thing which XDA is not about.
If anyone else steps up and writes a more detailed guide that person is very welcome to do so I´m not preventing anyone.
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I remember once there was a chat group for rooting a phone on stacks, WhatsApp or discord. Why not make one for u12+ to ease everyone? It's 2018, maybe the mode of forum isn't fast enough and needs to be changed. Forum is for complete detailed guides. But if you insist, this thread can become one with hella short questions and answer posts. That's also not aesthetical. Also, do think about your initial aim of releasing a guide. isn't it helping others who don't know how to root u12+? if so, why declining an even effective way of teaching people (me) by allowing me to send you my questions instantly whenever I encounter problems following your guide? Or, which you should disagree with, is it only for your self-gratification to gain recognition from others in this 'community'?
Anyway, even you are not physically preventing anyone from fulfilling my request, what you said already to a certain extent have driven potential writers away. It's actually kinda selfish because it's totally fine if you are not writing one but you don't have to drive people away from writing one. Anyway, so, provided no hopes on anyone writing a rooting guide for noobs, let me start my follow up questions although as I have expected, I will be asking for every small detail which probably most of the experts here already know because I don't have the ability to research properly (I did researched for more hours but I still can't find my answers). I said to 'save time' means to use time effectively - if I use my time to research and actually get what I am looking for, time is not wasted; but if I cannot reach what I want anyway after spending the time, it is wasted.
GphonePrince said:
I remember once there was a chat group for rooting a phone on stacks, WhatsApp or discord. Why not make one for u12+ to ease everyone? It's 2018, maybe the mode of forum isn't fast enough and needs to be changed. Forum is for complete detailed guides. But if you insist, this thread can become one with hella short questions and answer posts. That's also not aesthetical. Also, do think about your initial aim of releasing a guide. isn't it helping others who don't know how to root u12+? if so, why declining an even effective way of teaching people (me) by allowing me to send you my questions instantly whenever I encounter problems following your guide? Or, which you should disagree with, is it only for your self-gratification to gain recognition from others in this 'community'?
Anyway, even you are not physically preventing anyone from fulfilling my request, what you said already to a certain extent have driven potential writers away. It's actually kinda selfish because it's totally fine if you are not writing one but you don't have to drive people away from writing one. Anyway, so, provided no hopes on anyone writing a rooting guide for noobs, let me start my follow up questions although as I have expected, I will be asking for every small detail which probably most of the experts here already know because I don't have the ability to research properly (I did researched for more hours but I still can't find my answers). I said to 'save time' means to use time effectively - if I use my time to research and actually get what I am looking for, time is not wasted; but if I cannot reach what I want anyway after spending the time, it is wasted.
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please don´t get personal with your arguments.
everyone, including you, is free to start such a chat! Open it up and get it going. It´s just, that I won´t start it nor will I maintain or support it.
Again my guide is complete and detailed. and if there is indeed something missing or a little change to be made to make it a bit more polished I will update it. As I already did.
Feel free to ask your questions in the thread and I´m sure they will be answered at some point. Then everyone can profit from your research and from the questions and answers that arose while doing the research.
time spent on researching is never wasted. even if you don´t find all answers swiftly it is never wasted. The journey is the reward!
Thread closed. This seems to have become a thread less focussed on finding an answer and more so on flaming your peers. Given that that seems to be the case for the entire thread, there is no point in leaving this open if all it is going to do is cause excessive drama.
Thank you,
RJ
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Hi, Anybody on XDA.
I Have started this thread, because I cannot find an answer to my Question, posted in Nexus 7 ROM Development.
"TWRP enquiries are Not Permitted in ROM Forums or Threads".
So my simple Question is as follows.
Whom is "Original TWRP Developer" for this device.
Asus Nexus 7 (2012) Tilapia (3G) 32GB 7" Tablet, same for Grouper (WiFi) .
Limited information is available on XDA, as many Developers have lost interest or abandoned, further updates for these devices, only @AndDiSa is updating lately, in 2021, & for last 4 years, as per OP.
Latest TWRP versions 3.4.0-0 (2020) and 3.5.0-9.0 (2021) releases on TWRP.ME are Robot generated, within "Team Win Jenkins" Server with Developer, being listed as "Jenkins". Some pseudo name, that the Server created.
Original TWRP Versions from 2012-2013 being 2.8** are obsolete, next was v3.3.0-0 that works for LOS 14 ROMs, being based on Android 7.1.2 released in 2017. So ALL versions, work successfully on @AndDiSa ROMs.
So after lots of research, I cannot locate whom, was the ,"Original Human Developer", that "Team Win" had moved into "TWRP Development and Support" for later updated versions.
Now available, when released, with latest security patches, every few months, via http://TWRP.me Repositories for Multiple Devices.
There are no changes in Format, in Partitions, that can be Backed up and Restored.
So being able to communicate with a Human, instead of a Machine.
Users can ask questions, directly as PM, within XDA.
Just want to know, whom is that person, ?????
Please Reply, if anyone can answer, my Simple Question.
Thanks & Cheers BeeJ1109
HI ALL,
4 days Nothing Surely someone can answer, or acknowledge that this thread has been read.
Please respond with something, anything.
I got told to start a new thread for TWRP by some official in XDA.
Having a go at me, told to leave the OP or Dev alone, He only answers questions about ROM, Not allowed to ask questions about TWRP.
So I did as requested.
NO Responses at this Time.
Cheers
BeeJ1109 said:
HI ALL,
4 days Nothing Surely someone can answer, or acknowledge that this thread has been read.
Please respond with something, anything.
I got told to start a new thread for TWRP by some official in XDA.
Having a go at me, told to leave the OP or Dev alone, He only answers questions about ROM, Not allowed to ask questions about TWRP.
So I did as requested.
NO Responses at this Time.
Cheers
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As stated in my PM: No one has any obligations to you or anyone else on this forum. You can ask a question but if no one can or even wants to answer it, that's just tough luck. You could try a different approach by proactively working out the answer on your own or rephrase the question. I personally don't believe knowing whom developed TWRP is going to help you. Finding the contributor(s) of your device here has more value. If there are none or they have discontinued support, well, that's just tough luck too I guess.
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As stated in my PM: No one has any obligations to you or anyone else on this forum. You can ask a question but if no one can or even wants to answer it, that's just tough luck. You could try a different approach by proactively working out the answer on your own or rephrase the question. I personally don't believe knowing whom developed TWRP is going to help you. Finding the contributor(s) of your device here has more value. If there are none or they have discontinued support, well, that's just tough luck too I guess.
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Thank you for more useless info.
For your interest, there issues with this TWRP, discussing the issues, will at least be communicating with a human.
Simple, but I suspect you are on a different page.
Contributors for this device are no help, so far. The device may have unique restraints, but I doult that. It is 32GB Device, Samsung devices with 8GB have a larger System partition. Nexus 7 has 639 MB allocated, which severely limits, loading Gapps for starters, naming a partition to unique name being staging. Therefore certain apps are looking for persist partition.
Not supporting /system/add-on.d functions limits backup and restore, requiring Magisk root and Gapps to be reinstalled everytime a new ROM is updated. Another unique feature to this device.
Maybe I am being too Technical for you to understand.
Possibly the only person that understands my concerns is @AndDiSa the ROM Dev. Whom refuses to discuss TWRP.
So maybe, I will just put the device away in the drawer, like it was for last 7 years.
No big deal, I have lots of other devices, to play with.
Telling me to rephase my question or try to investigate it myself and people are not obligated to reply, are not helpful.
You are so full of your self importance, as so-called the appointed Forum moderator, that I feel you are missing the point, I am just asking a question, and adding some info, that is relevant to the questions.
So lighten up, as it is not life or death. Relax I really don't care.
I did as you asked, got no replies, apart from your thoughts.
In my opinion, Some on XDA are helpful, others are not.
Goodbye
BeeJ1109 said:
Thank you for more useless info.
For your interest, there issues with this TWRP, discussing the issues, will at least be communicating with a human.
Simple, but I suspect you are on a different page.
Contributors for this device are no help, so far. The device may have unique restraints, but I doult that. It is 32GB Device, Samsung devices with 8GB have a larger System partition. Nexus 7 has 639 MB allocated, which severely limits, loading Gapps for starters, naming a partition to unique name being staging. Therefore certain apps are looking for persist partition.
Not supporting /system/add-on.d functions limits backup and restore, requiring Magisk root and Gapps to be reinstalled everytime a new ROM is updated. Another unique feature to this device.
Maybe I am being too Technical for you to understand.
Possibly the only person that understands my concerns is @AndDiSa the ROM Dev. Whom refuses to discuss TWRP.
So maybe, I will just put the device away in the drawer, like it was for last 7 years.
No big deal, I have lots of other devices, to play with.
Telling me to rephase my question or try to investigate it myself and people are not obligated to reply, are not helpful.
You are so full of your self importance, as so-called the appointed Forum moderator, that I feel you are missing the point, I am just asking a question, and adding some info, that is relevant to the questions.
So lighten up, as it is not life or death. Relax I really don't care.
I did as you asked, got no replies, apart from your thoughts.
In my opinion, Some on XDA are helpful, others are not.
Goodbye
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Hi again BeeJ1109
I will not engage in any open emotional discussion. If you wish to do so, you are free to contact me via PM. The standards that you are holding me by can just as well be reflected upon yourself. I have made great efforts in assisting you and I never made any promises. XDA is not a customer service; though it is often mistaken as one. It's about contributing and mutual respect. I was not trying to be helpful, I'm merely asking for some respect towards the community and its members.
And you are absolutely correct: some are helpful, others are not. That is not limited to XDA.