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Early reports on the last Woot! sale - they might be shipping with 1.2-4349

1800 devices were sold this week, and I would expect that a good portion of those users will be headed here.
Again, this is just an early report from one user who just got their device, so it could be a one-off. But I would go on the assumption that they are all getting 4349, to play it safe.
To the moderators:
I would highly recommend that the development area be altered ASAP to break up the 1.1 and 1.2 ROMs. I would also recommend that a disclaimer be added to all 1.1 ROMs, including anything CM7 based, that specific steps need to be taken if a 4349 user attempts to use these ROMs. I have been asking for this since April, and I am respectively asking again.
Again, this could just be a one-off user with 4349. But given that one Woot! user has it, and new TigerDirect users have 4349 as well gives me the impression that this could be the norm for all new devices. And I think it's in XDA's best interests to prepare the development site accordingly, given what we know about 1.1 down-leveling.
To the 1.1 devs / modders:
Same request. From someone who had the opposite occur with TNT Lite 5, this is a potentially devastating situation if these users flash your 1.1 based ROM.
To new Woot! users:
You should read this first, please: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035983 Don't jump into modding until you have confirmed what stock version you have, please.

I agree, If we can prevent a user from flashing the wrong ROM due to their bootloader, we will save many users from needless grief and reduce the number of posts for help to those who really need it.
Roebeet, sure glad to see you back posting and helping...

brookfield said:
I agree, If we can prevent a user from flashing the wrong ROM due to their bootloader, we will save many users from needless grief and reduce the number of posts for help to those who really need it.
Roebeet, sure glad to see you back posting and helping...
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I think I picked the right week to do so.

This will be the role of the posters of the ROMs/MODs to delineate which bootloader is used, as well as to provide the appropriate disclaimers, etc.
At the end of the day, XDA is a developer site - and all action taken is at your own risk and decision. If users are not willing to fully research their choices the responsibility falls on them for whatever happens. There will be people who help out of the goodness of their heart - but not their responsibility if something fails like the user was warned it would.

Agreed. The SD development sections are much easier to navigate after being segregated into 1.1 and 1.2

jerdog said:
At the end of the day, XDA is a developer site - and all action taken is at your own risk and decision. If users are not willing to fully research their choices the responsibility falls on them for whatever happens. There will be people who help out of the goodness of their heart - but not their responsibility if something fails like the user was warned it would.
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Isn't this a pretty basic usability issue? This would help new users, but more fundamentally it's just good organization, no?

jerdog said:
This will be the role of the posters of the ROMs/MODs to delineate which bootloader is used, as well as to provide the appropriate disclaimers, etc.
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I kinda disagree with this statement. In other sub-forums on XDA, they require all posts in the dev section to follow guidelines on the title at the very least. Simply requiring that all posts in that section be classified the same way is all that is needed (with all the disclaimers and everything).
Example:
[Rom][1.2BL] Uber Fake Rom!!1?! (Now with extra frosted flakes) - [1.0 - 6/10/11)

Tostino said:
I kinda disagree with this statement. In other sub-forums on XDA, they require all posts in the dev section to follow guidelines on the title at the very least. Simply requiring that all posts in that section be classified the same way is all that is needed (with all the disclaimers and everything).
Example:
[Rom][1.2BL] Uber Fake Rom!!1?! (Now with extra frosted flakes) - [1.0 - 6/10/11)
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And that's a good statement - if you notice those posting actual development ROMs/MODs already follow this as a rule of thumb. But it is not an XDA requirement. It has been suggested to Devs that they follow this anyways.

Clean up on "Isle 9" please. I think being structured by bootloader is a great idea. Especially since there are projects now other then Android being worked on. And in the future when Windows 8 is released.

jerdog said:
This will be the role of the posters of the ROMs/MODs to delineate which bootloader is used, as well as to provide the appropriate disclaimers, etc.
At the end of the day, XDA is a developer site - and all action taken is at your own risk and decision. If users are not willing to fully research their choices the responsibility falls on them for whatever happens. There will be people who help out of the goodness of their heart - but not their responsibility if something fails like the user was warned it would.
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Why not simply break out the ROM section, rather than put more of the onus on the developers? The developers already have enough to do with developing and will in all likelihood already advise which bootloader to use. Make it a little easier for them.
We all know that what we do is at our own risk; all that is being asked is to break the ROM section into a 1.1 and 1.2 subforum.

jerdog said:
This will be the role of the posters of the ROMs/MODs to delineate which bootloader is used, as well as to provide the appropriate disclaimers, etc.
At the end of the day, XDA is a developer site - and all action taken is at your own risk and decision. If users are not willing to fully research their choices the responsibility falls on them for whatever happens. There will be people who help out of the goodness of their heart - but not their responsibility if something fails like the user was warned it would.
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I disagree. The breaking into a 1.1 and a 1.2 sub-forum of the development section seems pretty much critical to avoid any unnecessary headache for XDA gTab users. Saying what you said above is like throwing a 10 year old behind the wheel of a car and saying: "You accept the risks of your own actions, so go ahead and start driving and we'll see where this leads us."
You wouldn't do that under any circumstance, so you provide "buffers" (training, mentorship, test driving, books, etc) which in our case would be the sub-forums separating boot loader types to attempt to put forth a friendly effort to help users avoid a headache.
The sub-forums would look something like this:
Android Development:
General Development (CWM, radios, tools, app dev, etc)
1.1 Bootloader Development (all 1.1 based kernels, ROMs, and misc.)
1.2 Bootloader Development (all 1.1 based kernels, ROMs, and misc.)
Not putting forth the effort to at least provide a somewhat protected atmosphere for the XDA gTab users is negligence. I have been a member of the XDA community in an observer/user fashion for much longer than my membership reflects. From my experience with XDA, I have noticed a trend on the gTab community in more recent times that is not reflected on the other device forums I have utilized (HD2, Tilt, Tilt2, G2, G1, MyTouch, and a few more that I cannot remember). The vast majority of those kept higher and more enforced standards than the gTab forums have lately, but still looked out for the users by putting certain "buffers" and preventative measures into place to try to keep users from messing up their pricey hardware due to negligence.
Yes, negligence on the user's part is their fault by not following some instructions laid out for them, but it doesn't mean that the leadership can't at a minimum provide some buffers out of a good faith gesture. I hope you don't take this in a disrespectful way or anything, just voicing my observation on things I've seen over the past few months and figured as the gTab moderator (even though you're selling yours), you'd probably want to know what the community members of your device forum are observing.
Thanks for your hard work, but this is something that's inevitable and should not be avoided or curtailed for a later date.

jerdog said:
This will be the role of the posters of the ROMs/MODs to delineate which bootloader is used, as well as to provide the appropriate disclaimers, etc.
At the end of the day, XDA is a developer site - and all action taken is at your own risk and decision. If users are not willing to fully research their choices the responsibility falls on them for whatever happens. There will be people who help out of the goodness of their heart - but not their responsibility if something fails like the user was warned it would.
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No offense, but speaking as a non-1337 who's been dealing with 1337s for years, this post sounds like the typical 1337 attitude.
Dividing up the development section into 1.1 and 1.2 will save many headaches. Noone is here to stroke anyone's ego as a 1337. We're just trying to make the process go as smoothly as possible here.

flipovich said:
I disagree. The breaking into a 1.1 and a 1.2 sub-forum of the development section seems pretty much critical to avoid any unnecessary headache for XDA gTab users. Saying what you said above is like throwing a 10 year old behind the wheel of a car and saying: "You accept the risks of your own actions, so go ahead and start driving and we'll see where this leads us."
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We're not talking about putting people behind a car. We're talking about people accessing a forum that is for development. Any usage of the forum and the developed solutions presented is at your own risk.
flipovich said:
You wouldn't do that under any circumstance, so you provide "buffers" (training, mentorship, test driving, books, etc) which in our case would be the sub-forums separating boot loader types to attempt to put forth a friendly effort to help users avoid a headache.
The sub-forums would look something like this:
Android Development:
General Development (CWM, radios, tools, app dev, etc)
1.1 Bootloader Development (all 1.1 based kernels, ROMs, and misc.)
1.2 Bootloader Development (all 1.1 based kernels, ROMs, and misc.)
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This is not a precedent at XDA nor would it be approved. There is some segmentation under a device but that is by OS - not by a bootloader in an OS.
flipovich said:
Not putting forth the effort to at least provide a somewhat protected atmosphere for the XDA gTab users is negligence. I have been a member of the XDA community in an observer/user fashion for much longer than my membership reflects. From my experience with XDA, I have noticed a trend on the gTab community in more recent times that is not reflected on the other device forums I have utilized (HD2, Tilt, Tilt2, G2, G1, MyTouch, and a few more that I cannot remember). The vast majority of those kept higher and more enforced standards than the gTab forums have lately, but still looked out for the users by putting certain "buffers" and preventative measures into place to try to keep users from messing up their pricey hardware due to negligence.
Yes, negligence on the user's part is their fault by not following some instructions laid out for them, but it doesn't mean that the leadership can't at a minimum provide some buffers out of a good faith gesture. I hope you don't take this in a disrespectful way or anything, just voicing my observation on things I've seen over the past few months and figured as the gTab moderator (even though you're selling yours), you'd probably want to know what the community members of your device forum are observing.
Thanks for your hard work, but this is something that's inevitable and should not be avoided or curtailed for a later date.
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Not taken as disrespectful at all. And whether or not I own the device has nothing to do with the level of effort put into the forum. It is not the role of a moderator to police the information and provide checks and balances for the users. It is the role of the developer or poster to do that. Moderators are here to keep threads on topic, keep users from trolling, cleanup spam, etc.
Developers should mark their projects as to the relevance for the user - i.e. [BL1.2] or whatever. It's important for users to be held responsible for their actions and we are a development community - not a hand-holding community.
It is also the role of users to report posts that they see as problematic to the OP and if the OP doesn't make changes then you can bring the moderators in to assist as appropriate. It's also the role of users to help keep things sorted by reporting posts that need moved elsewhere, etc. and to report those who are abusive so that they can be actioned.

My goal was not to ruffle feathers. I'm just stating my concerns and suggestions, whether they are feasible or not.
The newer 1.2 ROMs here on XDA seem to add these differences to their titles and first posts (as mentioned), but my concern is the older 1.1 ROMs, especially ones that were created before this new branch was released. For example, some of the CM7 based ROMs, and even CM7 itself, are not safe to use if you are flashing directly from 4349 stock. And I've also made suggestions in the Cyanagenmod forums, for the same reasons.

And I appreciate the suggestions and involvement. Thanks!

Thanks
I never heard of the g tablet before this week, but the TD Ebay deal was too good to pass up. I got one with 1.2-4349 on it. First thing I did was downgrade it thanks to the heads up info from this forum. With some reading was also able to put Veganginger on it. First attempt, it locked it up when rebooting after a successful install. But again, this forum was right on top of it. I followed the info for using nvflash and got back to a stock rom, ran clockwork again and installed Vegan no problem.
Not much to comment on the tablet itself yet, it just arrived yesterday, but so far its been fun just making the updates.
Just wanted to say thanks for all the info.

I've read through this thread and I do not believe a separate sub-forum is necessary. As such, I am closing this thread before the discussion becomes out of hand.
The differences between the Gtab versions lie in software alone. There is currently a method available to revert to 1.1 using nvflash in order to regain ROM compatibility with 1.1 ROMs. This, coupled with a simple warning as to which bootloader is compatible will ensure that everyone is satisfied.
In the past, we have only given separate development sub-forums for devices where a revision change is tied to a physical hardware change. As this is simply a (reversible) software difference, Jerdog has taken the correct approach by suggesting that the developers and moderators delineate which ROMs are compatible with which bootloaders.
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Can someone please recommend another good forum?

I've been an XDA user for a few years now, and for the most part I have found it to be a great source of help and information across a wide range of devices and platforms... up until recently.
I have always had a strong interest in mobile phones/devices. And when I got my first smart phone in 2008 my interest was piqued further. I am not a developer, and I don’t intend on becoming one. I am a user. I love customization, apps, games and everything about smart phones (started on Winows Mobile, and I now use Android).
The way I understand it… XDA was started as a developer’s site/forum… for developers. Over the years it began to evolve into a non-exclusive community. Anyone could ask for help on any range of smart phone topics – which I thought was great.
Lately it seems that XDA has been trying to get back to their roots… that is to say, they are trying to make the forums more developer exclusive. I can only say that is a bad thing from a selfish stand point. Of course if I were a developer I might take issue with my forums being flooded with non-developer related (and therefore… irrelevant) threads and posts. I am in no position to criticize the site managers about what type of site they wish to run and how they want to run it. But XDA is becoming useless to me. It is becoming increasingly difficult to find help on non-development related topics.
So… Can someone please recommend another (more user-orientated) site? I like to ask questions on a range of topics; some device specific, some about how to use apps, some game hints, some general android queries, app recommendations, etc. Is there a better forum for a user like me?
Thanks for any help.

I used to frequent http://www.teambamf.net/ when I had my HTC Thunderbolt, Yea, it was my first smart phone.
They do a lot with Samsung phones, you might want to take a look and see what they have to offer.
CharlesTheMan is willing to help anyone who asks, they're good guys.
If you can't find what you want there, just ask, they can tell you what you need to do and recommend where to go if they can't answer your questions.
It always pays to search for different alternatives, I work in an IT department as a programmer, systems network analyst and a webmaster.
Don't always use the same search engine, change up, use Bing or Dogpile or many others to find what you need.
I can spend hours researching for what I need, there is so much out there now you just need to learn "Where To Look", per say.
Good luck and remember, if you don't find what you are looking for, look somewhere else!!
G.

Hi G,
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I almost always do a pretty extensive google search before coming hear to post. I rarely use bing or anyother search engine before coming here to ask... will certainly give it a go.
Thanks again.

I don't think there's another forum as great as XDA
but if you could be more specific or if you like MIUI rom, you can find everything about it here miuiandroid[dot]com

retslagoon said:
I don't think there's another forum as great as XDA
but if you could be more specific or if you like MIUI rom, you can find everything about it here miuiandroid[dot]com
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hi retslagoon,
I do not have any particular question at this time. But thanks for your reply.
One issue I have with 'being specific' (and I think I might find this hard to explain) is that I can spend quite a bit of time typing out a questing/post (and trying to be clear and specific), while wording correctly; only to have it be ignored - for whatever reason. So the entire exercise ends up being a waste of time.
I do not know why so many simple questions get ignored on these forums, there could be a range of reasons (either because people don't know the answers to them, or because people don't bother to read them; I also wonder if it is due to the fact that some of these unanswered questions are not at all development related and therefor are intentionally ignored to teach the poster a lesson about posting on a development forum).
Eitherway, XDA is not satisfying my search for help/advice and information.
Thanks again.

[email protected] said:
hi retslagoon,
I do not have any particular question at this time. But thanks for your reply.
One issue I have with 'being specific' (and I think I might find this hard to explain) is that I can spend quite a bit of time typing out a questing/post (and trying to be clear and specific), while wording correctly; only to have it be ignored - for whatever reason. So the entire exercise ends up being a waste of time.
I do not know why so many simple questions get ignored on these forums, there could be a range of reasons (either because people don't know the answers to them, or because people don't bother to read them; I also wonder if it is due to the fact that some of these unanswered questions are not at all development related and therefor are intentionally ignored to teach the poster a lesson about posting on a development forum).
Eitherway, XDA is not satisfying my search for help/advice and information.
Thanks again.
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My experience is that often threads are unnecessarily started: A quick Google-search before in most cases would have given the answer(s) requested. At least if the issue(s) is/are device independent. So you must not wonder a post istn't replied.

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anurox2 said:
Most of the CM12.1 ROMs have not been updated for more than a month. Except for Mokee ROM, and those guys don't even have a thread.
I know the rules of XDA about no ETAs and stuff, but I would like to know what's going on with CM12.1 development, will we get more updates, or is that it?
I also see CM13 is available, but that doesn't mean CM12.1 development should completely stop.
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you bought a phone that doesn't have half as many developers as the more popular ones. the developers that are working on CM13 are the same ones that were working on cm12.1. If you want more regular updates, get a phone that is supported by developers, or better yet, work on becoming a developer so you can help them out.
More importantly, it doesnt matter if the developers stop developing cm12.1 or cm13 for that case. This is not a paid job and they are not obligated to develop. More often than not these developers are users who pay for the phones themselves and share their development so people like you and I can enjoy our phones more. It is and always has been, their prerogative. Respect that.

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anurox2 said:
1. I didn't know bout the low number of devs, sorry for that
2. I get regular updates on mokee, I didn't ask for more updates, just information on what's going on, and whether I should stop expecting more cm12.1 updates from the Roms devs who have a thread
3. I tried my best to become a Dev, so don't call me out on that, I could barely download sources, it went on n on for over 3 weeks, so I couldn't, I even asked ppl if the sources could be transferred, but no luck there
4. I know devs aren't obligated to develop Roms n all for us, but asking for information, that would take them a minute to type out is not a crime, and I am certain that I didn't anything that might offend them, and if they are offended in any case, I'm terribly sorry.
I'm only asking the same question ppl have been asking in other ROM threads
And if I actually wanted to offend them I would have tagged them, which I didn't so it straight out means I am simply inquiring bout development progress
. Whatever you deduce from my original post, I respect the devs very much but once again asking for info where there has been none for over a month is not wrong.
You can read my post as negative or simply as me being inquisitive, that's not in my hands, it just depends on what kind of person you are.
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point one, Well if you read the post quoted and not the post that you edited, you would see that your tone is ambiguous, especially this point "I also see CM13 is available, but that doesn't mean CM12.1 development should completely stop."
point two, if you had in fact read the related threads, you would have seen some, if not ALL of the developers give the disclaimer that they're working on some part of CM13. In fact the CM13.1 thread itself has the major mi4i developers involved to some extent. The onus is on you the end user to find all this information. If I could gather all this, I don't see why someone else cant.
point three, it was a suggestion that if you want regular updates to try and be a developer. No one is calling you out on that. I can't help if you have a inferiority complex and think that other people are targeting you.
TLDR: all the information you are "asking" for is available in some form on these very forums. Don't be lazy and read the threads. Don't expect the developers to answer each and every of your non-developer related questions.
Want more updated information? follow their progress on github. Since you've tried to download the sources, I'm pretty sure you know how to use github.

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anurox2 said:
It is literally impossible to write something on the internet without people commenting on it. Moderators if you wish, delete this thread, because it is causing nothing but nonsense, rather than being informative which I wanted it to be in the first place.
and to the person who has this much time to criticize me rather than use it find info that I was asking for in the first place.
Its not wrong to write in ambiguous tones, if I speak that way normally. And if it had hidden meaning, seeking out the positive part in it is generally better. Anyways given your first response I changed it, so more people don't go on about it like you. No other reason to edit it.
To answer your question why can't I devote time to search through threads, well I did, but I also gave in time to create this thread so more members don't have to go looking for information, everyone's time is precious, I was trying to help people so they could find info in just one thread.
Your "suggestion" was just as ambiguous as my tone, so don't.
"Inferiority complex" hahaha, so funny I forgot to laugh.
I know it is and I have also read it, not lazy in anyway. I wanted to provide as I said before a thread where every other member who is not a dev or cannot use github can find info.
I have been providing help according to my capability since my Xperia phone, so your lazy comment is literally out of place. And btw it was one question, that too in the entire Mi4i forum. I am sure you can check in profile.
PM me if you want me to take down this thread, I will anyways if some one goes on about stuff like this again, because this thread was aimed at getting development information.
And I sincerely apologize if you feel any negativity from my post.
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Okay, so be specific. what exactly is this "development information" that you seek? How is this helpful to anyone but yourself? You have been providing help since your Xperia, Kudos to you on that. Since you want to talk about profiles and helping others, I can tell you this much. You can check my profile and see that I have been helping people with their problems for probably way longer than you have owned a smartphone. What I cannot and will not tolerate is laziness since this is a waste of time for people really looking to help others.
Your question has been answered in my previous posts. CM12.1 has been halted in development because the developers are concentrating on CM13. If you spent half the time you've wasted on justifying your actions to instead read posts and threads, I have no doubt you would definitely increase your capability to help others instead of being a waste of time
just so everyone else can see what I have been talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63717547&postcount=241
First post, check contributors
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4i/development/unofficial-cyanogenmod-13-t3247399
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63747258&postcount=132
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63791603&postcount=133
development halted for other issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63561060&postcount=103
Need more proof that you havent been reading the threads?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63738878&postcount=1230
Took all of 5 minutes to find this.

davtse said:
Okay, so be specific. what exactly is this "development information" that you seek? How is this helpful to anyone but yourself? You have been providing help since your Xperia, Kudos to you on that. Since you want to talk about profiles and helping others, I can tell you this much. You can check my profile and see that I have been helping people with their problems for probably way longer than you have owned a smartphone. What I cannot and will not tolerate is laziness since this is a waste of time for people really looking to help others.
Your question has been answered in my previous posts. CM12.1 has been halted in development because the developers are concentrating on CM13. If you spent half the time you've wasted on justifying your actions to instead read posts and threads, I have no doubt you would definitely increase your capability to help others instead of being a waste of time
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Okay you know what if you can't seem to understand I am not going to make you. I am going to delete my content on this thread. I apologized to you and the devs multiple times. I asked you to PM, but you wanted to make a spectacle.

anurox2 said:
Okay you know what if you can't seem to understand I am not going to make you. I am going to delete my content on this thread. I apologized to you and the devs multiple times. I asked you to PM, but you wanted to make a spectacle and tell everyone how long you've been helping people. And again given the fact I have replied to your insinuations, you still think I wouldn't have time to read the threads then congrats. And I know you answered it but you also questioned my purpose so I replied, explaining what the post was for, and since you can't tolerate the "laziness" which again I am not, I am going to answer every comment thrown at me, as long as I am not wrong
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check the post above and see what i mean by you have not been reading the threads. I have even dug up the exact posts for you. The beauty of the forum system is that even if you delete your posts, you will not edit what others have quoted.
I leave others to judge what has been said. I've wasted enough time pandering another's laziness which I absolutely abhor.

Thread closed @ OP's request.

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Nextbook Ares 8a/10a - If You Have One - Bricked or Otherwise

I'm no dev, but i've come to be decently familiar with these devices.
If it's bricked - and you're arriving at having "looked everywhere" for a fix to no avail, DO NOT HESITATE to post your problemo. I may be able to help and would be glad to take a whack at it.
(A description of what went wrong, how your brick came to be would be helpful in solving your particular case.)
You should get a response from me pretty quickly in the Telegram
But definitely post here as well or give a link to your existing "need help" post if you already happen to have one.
If not bricked - maybe looking to see what other cool things can be done with these. Especially if you didn't know that these tablets are essentially mini pc's.
You could very well install Linux (Lubuntu | as Ubuntu runs like balls)
or even Windows (less practical .. still haven't gotten the drivers totally figured out .. but pretty neat nonetheless).
Creating backup firmware .img's - Also if you're unbricked a VERY useful thing to do would be to boot a Live Lubuntu from USB and create backup .imgs of each partition using the "dd" command. THEN, you'll have a working firmware backup for yourself and/or others who may need some stock imgs! With the very lacking amount of stock firmware to be found for these devices, making backups with this method would be very cool of you and helpful to everyone!
(Assistance and clarification can easily be given wherever needed!)

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Apologies, I shall.
I only mention TG because assisting would be much easier in a chat environment. Is there an allowed alternative or would the Discord serve this purpose? I mean not to break rules.

CornholeOS_x86 said:
Apologies, I shall.
I only mention TG because assisting would be much easier in a chat environment. Is there an allowed alternative or would the Discord serve this purpose? I mean not to break rules.
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I'm confident that you didn't and don't intend to break any forum rules, and I really appreciate that you confirm this. I'm also convinced that you agree that XDA members won't benefit from any - although well intended - assistance or support that is provided outside of XDA by whatever social media.
This is one of the reasons that and as an exemption to the last bullet of rule no. 5 of the forum rules (which my esteemed team mate @TNSMANI linked in his post above) we only grant developers the privilege to provide references to their social media in their own development threads.
I hope I was able to clarify your question.
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hi
CornholeOS_x86 said:
I'm no dev, but i've come to be decently familiar with these devices.
If it's bricked - and you're arriving at having "looked everywhere" for a fix to no avail, DO NOT HESITATE to post your problemo. I may be able to help and would be glad to take a whack at it.
(A description of what went wrong, how your brick came to be would be helpful in solving your particular case.)
You should get a response from me pretty quickly in the Telegram
But definitely post here as well or give a link to your existing "need help" post if you already happen to have one.
If not bricked - maybe looking to see what other cool things can be done with these. Especially if you didn't know that these tablets are essentially mini pc's.
You could very well install Linux (Lubuntu | as Ubuntu runs like balls)
or even Windows (less practical .. still haven't gotten the drivers totally figured out .. but pretty neat nonetheless).
Creating backup firmware .img's - Also if you're unbricked a VERY useful thing to do would be to boot a Live Lubuntu from USB and create backup .imgs of each partition using the "dd" command. THEN, you'll have a working firmware backup for yourself and/or others who may need some stock imgs! With the very lacking amount of stock firmware to be found for these devices, making backups with this method would be very cool of you and helpful to everyone!
(Assistance and clarification can easily be given wherever needed!)
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i have a
Nextbook Ares 10a which not brick, but touch gone.​how i install ubuntu there? pls help..
Thanks