After some inconsistent battery drain, I finally got around to doing some real world testing and found something interesting.
I did the test three ways. The first was to disconnect the AeroActive Cooler completely. The second was to connect the AeroActive Cooler with the fan turned off. The final test was to connect the AeroActive Cooler with the fan on (which runs when the screen is on). The shocking realization was that simply having it connected was draining nearly as much battery as leaving it enabled. Disconnecting the AeroActive Cooler almost quadrupled battery life.
Unfortunately, there is no way to enable the paddles without the fan running, which could at least justify some additional drain. Disabling the fan also disables the paddles, leaving the AeroActive Cooler completely disabled.
Since doing this test, I now disconnect the fan when the phone is not going to be used for gaming. The difference in battery life is impossible to miss. It is unfortunate there is no way to leave the fan connected that isn't practically powering it at max without a single rotation.
Note: These findings are for the AeroActive Cooler 5 and may not apply to previous or future models of the same hardware.
Interesting... Is that during gaming? Wasn't it the case that having the fan attached allows the phone to throttle later, leading to more power consumption? Don't have the fan myself, just thought it might be possible...
I can confirm this issue occurring on my Rog Phone 5 too. This explains why leaving it connected even while the phone is on sleep drains ~50% within 24 hours. Until recently, I typically leave the cooler connected because I'm concerned about frequently reconnecting and causing wear and tear.
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Interesting... Is that during gaming? Wasn't it the case that having the fan attached allows the phone to throttle later, leading to more power consumption? Don't have the fan myself, just thought it might be possible...
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I did the testing by checking the battery before and after letting it sit overnight. With the fan set to off, it shouldn't be adjusting any internal profiles. Even so, that would only mean that the fan should be enabled to prevent overheating. It shouldn't have any impact on idle because the fan is designed to not run with the screen off.
Edit: A little extra drain when idle is to be expected when the fan is enabled to support kicking on instantly. The problem is that in both idle and off states, the drain is almost as significant as having the fan rotating.
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I did the testing by checking the battery before and after letting it sit overnight. With the fan set to off, it shouldn't be adjusting any internal profiles. Even so, that would only mean that the fan should be enabled to prevent overheating. It shouldn't have any impact on idle because the fan is designed to not run with the screen off.
Edit: A little extra drain when idle is to be expected when the fan is enabled to support kicking on instantly. The problem is that in both idle and off states, the drain is almost as significant as having the fan rotating.
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in disobedience, check the current discharge jsk? i in aida64, try to measure this again but what values do you have in the aida64 battery discharge section it is in mA units
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in disobedience, check the current discharge jsk? i in aida64, try to measure this again but what values do you have in the aida64 battery discharge section it is in mA units
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Ill have to try that later. I'm also curious what happens if I disable Armory Crate when it's connected.
I doubt there is a realistic fix as a user, but it would be nice to give Asus enough details to improve it (and pretend they'll listen).
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Ill have to try that later. I'm also curious what happens if I disable Armory Crate when it's connected.
I doubt there is a realistic fix as a user, but it would be nice to give Asus enough details to improve it (and pretend they'll listen).
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one more question, can you eliminate the need to connect an Asus fan for mode x? or can I force mode x without connecting an Asus fan?
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one more question, can you eliminate the need to connect an Asus fan for mode x? or can I force mode x without connecting an Asus fan?
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I would guess you mod Armory Crate or Game Genie (or both) to remove the restriction.
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I would guess you mod Armory Crate or Game Genie (or both) to remove the restriction.
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so unlock bootloader and root?
My aeroactive cooler always connected to my rog 5 and I got 10-12 hours SOT (game & social media)
fan speed = high
full gaming = 5++ hours
ultra durable & low brightness DC dimming stay on all the time
Devaanp said:
My aeroactive cooler always connected to my rog 5 and I got 10-12 hours SOT (game & social media)
fan speed = high
full gaming = 5++ hours
ultra durable & low brightness DC dimming stay on all the time
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Screen on time doesn't really apply to this, though. It's trying to find out if having the fan connected and NOT in use is wasting battery.
it would not be better to find a way to get around the need to have an Asus fan for mode x, other coolers are more efficient
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it would not be better to find a way to get around the need to have an Asus fan for mode x, other coolers are more efficient
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Other coolers also require the USB-C port, cannot be configured using the stock software, and aren't made to work with the proprietary design and cases.
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Other coolers also require the USB-C port, cannot be configured using the stock software, and aren't made to work with the proprietary design and cases.
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so otherwise, can the game run without Asus fan x mode?
Aida64 confirms it. With the fan disconnected, Discharge Rate sits around 80 mA. Connecting the fan has no immediate impact, but once the toast appears that it connects, Discharge Rate jumps to around 125 mA with the fan off.
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so otherwise, can the game run without Asus fan x mode?
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Games run without it.
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Aida64 confirms it. With the fan disconnected, Discharge Rate sits around 80 mA. Connecting the fan has no immediate impact, but once the toast appears that it connects, Discharge Rate jumps to around 125 mA with the fan off.
Games run without it.
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sorry my bad english .... i mean force x mode without asus fan
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sorry my bad english .... i mean force x mode without asus fan
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I would guess you mod Armory Crate or Game Genie (or both) to remove the restriction.
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Hádal bych, že mod Armory Crate nebo Game Genie (nebo obojí) odstraníte omezení.
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?what
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Hádal bych, že mod Armory Crate nebo Game Genie (nebo obojí) odstraníte omezení.
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Link?
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Link?
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I don't think it's been done yet
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As above, anyone using higher capacity battery for their HTC Desire and it is tested and proven to last longer than the original batter? Can post the link to purchase the battery?
Thanks!
Before you buy another battery, have you read this thread about calibrating your battery?
And have you installed a rom that allows underclocking? It makes a massive difference.
I am now getting 20+ hours from my phone where as before underclocking I was getting 8 hours.
Same amount of usage, just underclocking when screen is off.
Erm.. I will go read about it, but because I want to retain as it is now, thats why I'm looking for an extended battery.
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Erm.. I will go read about it, but because I want to retain as it is now, thats why I'm looking for an extended battery.
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What kind of battery life do you currently get? Before (accidentally) calibrating my battery I was getting around 10-12 hours, now I'm getting around 36-42 hours.
I'm looking for one that can last me more than 1 day.
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And have you installed a rom that allows underclocking? It makes a massive difference.
I am now getting 20+ hours from my phone where as before underclocking I was getting 8 hours.
Same amount of usage, just underclocking when screen is off.
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Hey buddy, which app do you use for underclocking? Cheers,
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I'm looking for one that can last me more than 1 day.
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Well, I'm using the standard battery and have 26% remaining with "1d 10h" since unplugged (admittedly I haven't used the phone for that much in that time, just some internet usage, a couple of calls, but it's been constantly on WiFi or 3G to sync GMail).
Use SetCPU for underclocking, and use JuiceDefender to automatically turn off your data connection while the screen's off/locked.
It will still reconnect every 15 minutes to sync, and will remain connected as long as there's any continuing 3G traffic while the screen's off. Basically what it means is you're running one of the most power-consuming parts of your device only 1/15th of the time, which make a big difference. Text messages and voice calls come through instantly still - only things requiring a data connection like facebook, weather, twitter, etc will have any delay, and even then it'll only be 15 minutes at the most.
You can also try setting your phone to WCDMA-only, which means it won't be constantly trying to connect and maintain two radios simultaneously. GSM-only would be even better but depending on your carrier it might not work at all or might only work for voice.
With SetCPU try making a profile to automatically go into "powersave" mode when the screen's off, which will ensure the CPU never clocks up past its minimum speed during that time. It's still over 200 mhz, more than enough for anything you might want to do in the background. For normal operation, between 499 and 768 mhz as the maximum clock, depending on your preference, should be adequate and will save you a little bit of battery life as well all the time.
Also, download a widget to allow you to manually set screen brightness when you're indoors and the auto setting is useless. I have my screen brightness set to 15% while indoors and it's still plenty bright. I have the SLCD model, I don't know if that makes any difference.
My phone has been off the charger for 17 hours and 10 minutes. During that time, the screen was on for 2 hours and 29 minutes. I'm at 79% battery life with the standard battery.
Mugen 3200mah. Mine lasts a day with ease and heavy use.
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Mugen 3200mah. Mine lasts a day with ease and heavy use.
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Yours able to charge it properly?
A small update to my previous post... I'm now at 32 hours, 38 minutes uptime, 4 hours 44 minutes awake time (screen on). Battery just reached 60 percent. Stock battery.
Remember when you made the choice to buy an Android, you were in effect saying you wanted to have a highly customizable miniature computer. Just like when you customize [insert your desktop OS of choice] to suit your taste, you need to configure your phone in order to get what you want out of it - namely, better battery life than with the standard settings.
HTC's goal with the Desire was to have a showpiece, it runs very fast and it looks good doing it. But they designed it with frequent charging in mind. Since most of us here, I imagine, would prefer to charge less often, we just need to configure the phone appropriately.
If you want a guaranteed solution, try this:
- Install NextSense rom (it's free, latest version right now is 5.3 AFAIK, I'm currently using 5.2 still)
- Install JuiceDefender - it's free on the market and its default settings are, for a change, very intelligent and effective.
- Install SetCPU - You can get it free on this forum. Set it to "interactive" mode with a bottom speed of 245 and a top speed of 806 to start with. The default is 998 at the top, but 200 mhz doesn't make a big difference in this case except to help battery life a bit. Once installed, add a profile for "screen off" which sets the phone to "powersave" mode. This will keep it running at the minimum clock any time you're not using it. Nothing running in the background while you're not even using the phone requires more than the minimum CPU speed.
- Install the Brightness Widget by Curvefish. It's free on the market. Put its widget on your desktop and keep your screen brightness at 25% while you're indoors. 15% is what I use, but 25% is one of the presets so it's a bit easier. I have an SLCD display so the brightness I get on auto might just be different from what OLED gets on auto, I don't know, but in any case for me it's way brighter than it needs to be.
- Set your screen timeout to no more than 2 minutes
- Make sure any apps that sync data do so in a reasonable interval. +/- 15 minutes won't ruin your day for most things.
- Under Wireless & Networks, set your phone's connection to WCDMA-only (3G-only). For many people this results in an increase to both signal quality and battery life, since it allows your phone to only run one radio at a time, making a significant difference. If it doesn't work for you, it's as simple as turning it back to the default setting.
- Disable haptic feedback and see if you mind the difference. Making all those little vibrations takes power too.
- Finally (obviously) don't run a live background, but you probably already know that.
Doing all of the above takes an hour or maybe two at most to set up and the difference in battery life is tremendous. It's simple to do, I worked out all of the above on my own and I've literally only had the phone for 4 days now I think, never touched a smartphone before in my life let alone an Android.
Give it a try, you have nothing to lose, and it will probably save you needing to buy a battery. Or, if you still buy a double-capacity battery, it'll mean you can run for like a week on a charge.
edit: also make sure to get the latest version of the radio driver, I don't have a frame of reference for comparison since I updated mine right away, but apparently it makes a fair bit of difference and probably gives you a more reliable cell signal in the process.
In case you think I'm exaggerating, here are some pics I just took.
What's the ideal settings for juice defender? Cos my phone is not rooted so I'm not going to use the SetCPU application.
What do you mean charge properly ??
Is it able to charge?
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What's the ideal settings for juice defender? Cos my phone is not rooted so I'm not going to use the SetCPU application.
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"Ideal" settings are basically the way it's configured by default. You can't improve upon them much even by getting the "premium" upgrade unless your phone is rooted... but SetCPU is a better choice in that case anyway.
Just install it, hit "enable" after it's done auto-detecting your phone's capabilities, and you're done. It's really that simple.
Be sure to add it to your task killer exclusion list if you use one.
You saying the default option is for SetCPU or Juicedefender?
So just download the free juicedefender is good enough for me already since the pro version is more for rooted phones? (mine is not rooted)
Can somebody pls. post the link to SetCPU?
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Can somebody pls. post the link to SetCPU?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
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So just download the free juicedefender is good enough for me already since the pro version is more for rooted phones? (mine is not rooted)
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Yes exactly. The pro version unlocks some more customization but ultimately won't add a whole lot to your battery life no matter how it's set up. I mean, beyond what the "regular" version does.
Just wanna ask around to check if I'm the only one who feels my phone is a tad bit too hot?
Usually when not charging , the batt temps are around 34-38°C, with the CPU in the range of 38-45°C
When charging the batt goes up to 38°C - 44.7°C or even overheating in the 45-50°C range( ok this would be my fault in using heavier apps)
And the CPU would stay in the range of 40°C - 55°C even without use sometimes
Those temperatures aren't out of the ordinary for this device, that's pretty normal actually. I've had my battery temperature go between 50-55°C fairly regularly, and even as high as 66°C without the phone shutting down (I did cool it down very quickly upon seeing how hot it was though).
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Those temperatures aren't out of the ordinary for this device, that's pretty normal actually. I've had my battery temperature go between 50-55°C fairly regularly, and even as high as 66°C without the phone shutting down (I did cool it down very quickly upon seeing how hot it was though).
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Thanks timmaaa, for a moment I thought I was the only one.
I use Battery Mix to record my temperature vs. Battery % over time (use the JB feature to disable its persistent notification): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.smapho.battery_mix&hl=en
One thing I've noticed is that when it hits 40C+, the space below the camera becomes extraordinarily hot! This happens at least once during a work day, especially happens when I don't touch the device.
When this happens, the drain rate just plummets (when I refer to the battery level slope vs. the phone temperature). However, a reboot fixes the heat (and as a result, the drain rate) over a lengthy amount of time.
I've heard of this, but haven't gotten around to trying it successfully:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...g-red-while-charging-rapid-battery-drain.html
That shouldn't happen while you're not using the phone. Have you used an app like BetterBatteryStats to identify what's draining your battery?
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well this was previously answered by timmaa i had a similar concern cause none of my earlier phone actually felt that warm...
but when i got a green signal that these are normal temperatures, i tried gaming for almost an hour turns out the phone was hot indeed the battery was around 50+ but still the phone dint shut down itself or showed any inconsistency in its functions!
moral of the story.. it happens with everyone.. my friend has a endeavor it also suffers from heating... its so normal that if u search it in google that "why does ht one x get..... "it automatically completes it in with " get hot"(also for the new One).
if you want to cool it down get SET CPU and create a profile in which select battery temperature/cpu temperature at a certain temperature you don't want your phone to exceed and then set the cpu to a lower speed typically till 1026 or 1134...
but again if u feel its necessary cause doing so will obliviously slow down the device.:angel:
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moral of the story.. it happens with everyone.. my friend has a endeavor it also suffers from heating... its so normal
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Of course its normal. All computers generate heat as power is discharged. Manufacturers are also packing more and more computing power into these small devices, and in general that means more heat (although there are other variables). And every smartphone is designed to deal with the heat differently, so those might be some reasons why your previous phones did not feel as warm.
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Of course its normal. All computers generate heat as power is discharged. Manufacturers are also packing more and more computing power into these small devices, and in general that means more heat (although there are other variables). And every smartphone is designed to deal with the heat differently, so those might be some reasons why your previous phones did not feel as warm.
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true that!!
even i was actually worried before hearing about it being normal from u and timma as well!
its probably htc one x is build that way.
BTW sorry a little off topic since this issue has already been resolved has anyone heard a little rattling sound near the camera region only when the phone is sharked up and down (from screen to back)
this also is a build issue!
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BTW sorry a little off topic since this issue has already been resolved has anyone heard a little rattling sound near the camera region only when the phone is sharked up and down (from screen to back)
this also is a build issue!
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Totally normal. Just a moving part in the camera module. Likely related to autofocus as you can sometimes hear a sound when focusing the image.
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I am currently on stock Android 12. I flashed the unlocked stock image (non-verizon) a few weeks back. With Android 11, Android 12, LineageOS, etc. every browser I have tried including Chrome, Brave, Via, etc. all drain the battery way faster than browsers did on my previous Moto G5 plus. i would say when I am surfing the net on my browser (usually just reading forums, no video), the battery drains about 1% every 5 minutes or less. I have tried 2.4Ghz wifi, LTE, etc. and data connection type doesn't seem to impact anything.
Is this normal for this phone? anything to do to reduce browser battery drain?
If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)
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If you go into battery usage graph, is the browser the only app listed as using up the battery (and not the screen brightness, or another app that may be contributing to the heavy usage)
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correct. if I am using other apps the battery drain isn't near as severe. I keep the display setting "extra dim" enabled all the time and I keep it down as low as I can tolerate. I use a pitch black wallpaper use dark mode in browsers so they have mostly black background with white text.
Phone idle is the only other thing that seems to use a sizeable amount of battery according to the battery usage data in settings.
Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera
DB126 said:
Sounds about right. Came from a Moto G7 Play (15 months back) and saw similar drain rates. All three devices have similar battery specs which plays into the units being used to assess drain. Is what it is.
FWIW - Opera
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Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.
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Not gonna lie, it makes me want to go back to Motorola when this Pixel bites the dust.
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Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.
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Many Moto's bring a nice package with unique tricks. Gotta do your homework on what features are most important when the time comes.
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I definitely did that. I only got the 4a because it was the perfect size and had a headphone jack. I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better. Nope.
Na, it's more complicated. 4a sports more sensors, brighter/denser display, faster processors, etc. System and personal apps clearly play a role in longevity (behind screen brightness); you'd need to do a detail study to understand what's drawing when and why.
I use to fuss over such matters but find the device lasts a full day for my use case which is all that really matters. Charges up quick from a modest size battery pack when camping/traveling. Just like past Motos.
Not sure who I'll partner with in the next dance. Love Pixel cameras (especially in challenging conditions) and routine updates. Miss some of Moto's innovations, like active display and actions. Needs to be close to AOSP; no Samsung UX butchery. In the end form factor will likely be the deciding factor once non-contenders are ruled out.
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I assumed with a newer hardware set and similar sized battery compared to my old phone batter life "should" be better.
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I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.
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I don't know what CPU you came from, but if the Moto only had "small" cores then of course it used less battery. "Big" cores use more power. They go faster too, but if you have a constant load, then they'll eat battery faster.
I don't know if there's a non-root way to disable the big cores, but I suspect you can do it with root (but don't know for sure).
Otherwise, you gotta get your browser to stop running JavaScript. If you're watching video you need to make sure the browser is offloading all the decoding to the hardware codecs rather than doing it on the CPU.
And if the screen is on, it might help to try and get it "more black" (eg. Use night mode) or turn down the brightness. The screen is often the primary user of power when a device is being used.
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Thanks for the suggestions. My power complaints are just limited to the browser so I dont think it is just the larger CPUs. I think my standby consumption issues are related to Stock Android as I am now running GrapheneOS and my standby power consumption now matches my old Moto G5 Plus.
As for browser usage consumption, I have tried everything but disabling Javascript. I will try that and see if it breaks anything I use regularly. Thanks for the idea.
tangent back to general power consumption, I typically disable just about everything behind the scenes as I can. I keep the theme on pitch black. I use the extra dim setting to keep screen brightness as low as I can tolerate. I use night mode in browser to keep as much black background as possible. I disable all tap-to-wake or sensor based features. When I was trying to run Android 12, I disabled all the smart services and removed all the google apps I could. I removed all permissions I could. I restricted all apps I could. I disabled adaptive settings, etc. There is a bunch of stuff running in the background on Android 12 and I just could not
Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life
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Welcome to the future. Older phones had better battery life
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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.
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I dont think it is all the phone. GrapheneOS has 40% better standby battery usage than stock android 12. On graphene, it matches my old Moto G5 Plus. It is either lazy programmers with inefficient coding these days or it is google having the stock OS do waaaay too much by default with no way to disable it.
I'm trying to figure that out now.
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I totally agree on the lazy thing. So many devs now days are so lazy. I develope QuickBase databases and constantly run into extremely poorly setup realms/apps. Just basic stuff. Lol
Is it only me? I bought the phone a few months ago received on May I been playing a lot of Apex Mobile which is totally not optimized but for iphone 13 pro max but that's not the point
On June I decided to run some benchmarks
On 3D Mark I got on WIld Life Maxed Out it doesn't even say the score now I get 6680
On Wildlife Extreme I got 2481 and now 1816 that's 35%+ slower than before what's the reason for this if anyone experiencing the same?
Geekbench same history I got Single Core 1241 and multicore 3546 late benchmark I did It got 1195 single core and 2885 Multicore
Was the ambient room temperature the same for all the tests? Did you add case for the later ones?
Once the phone gets too hot it likely will throttle back before it reaches shutdown temperature.
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Was the ambient room temperature the same for all the tests? Did you add case for the later ones?
Once the phone gets too hot it likely will throttle back before it reaches shutdown temperature.
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Same Room in my house same ambient temperature I ran the test in the same conditions when Idle and cold
Background apps running?
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Background apps running?
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Like I said test were done in the same way all apps closed and while phone was idle cold Weird isn't it?
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Like I said test were done in the same way all apps closed and while phone was idle cold Weird isn't it?
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Maybe Google backup Transport, etc running?
It shouldn't slow that much.
The load on this stock N10+ is over 2 yo and still snappy fast.
Any updates?
Try clearing the system cache and do a memory cleaning with Device Care.
Hit it with SD Maid if you got it.
Tested at room temperature 23 Celsius. Basically the same score as when new 3 months ago.
Interestingly the score improved by 31 points after installing the July update.
Also taken at 23 Celsius.
The app galaxy app booster helps to regain that factory reset feel for me. Used it twice thus far.
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Maybe Google backup Transport, etc running?
It shouldn't slow that much.
The load on this stock N10+ is over 2 yo and still snappy fast.
Any updates?
Try clearing the system cache and do a memory cleaning with Device Care.
Hit it with SD Maid if you got it.
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Definitely on the sd maid. I run it twice a week with a subsequent shutdown then boot (I let it fully rest instead of just a reboot). After any updates go into recovery and clear cache and repair apps. Also, go to battery, background usage limits, and put all apps that you don't need immediate notifications in sleep, and games and such in deep sleep. Honestly, running sd maid and the shutdown/boot really help.
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Definitely on the sd maid. I run it twice a week with a subsequent shutdown then boot (I let it fully rest instead of just a reboot). After any updates go into recovery and clear cache and repair apps. Also, go to battery, background usage limits, and put all apps that you don't need immediate notifications in sleep, and games and such in deep sleep. Honestly, running sd maid and the shutdown/boot really help.
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Using global power management will cause erratic behavior ie the battery management junk.
Enable fast charging only from that group.
In individual app settings disabling background battery and data use if needed is ok, that's not global power management.
Developer options>standby apps, if all buckets show as active, power management is disabled.
Its pretty normal electronics like capacitors and resistors decrease thier value over time the reason is thermodynamics
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Its pretty normal electronics like capacitors and resistors decrease thier value over time the reason is thermodynamics
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Not really. No electrolytic caps. Good for many hundreds of thousands of cycles. Components will fail outright rather than drift so far out of spec that you notice a change.
The battery (easy to replace), C port, AMOLED display, switches and flash/ram memories are at highest risk in that approximate order. Aside from the battery in a well designed/manufactured device the lifespan of a heavily used, well cared for device is at least 5 years.
A good case is mandatory to limit G loading to survivable levels in drops, to prevent direct impact damage and excessive frame, display and mobo flexing.
Firmware upgrades/updates are a major risk, avoid if not needed.
Care to avoid water exposure and to keep battery heat levels below 103F when using or charging.
Avoid using in direct sunlight, protect from sunlight. Keep display brightness on manual and below 50%.
The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency, which will cause the phone to heat up easily.
Therefore, I decided to limit the CPU clock frequency of the Tensor G2. By adjusting the overheating threshold, the CPU clock frequency limit can be achieved. Keep your Pixel 7 Pro super cool, not hot at all, and with longer battery life.
I made a Magisk module for your input, if you are also troubled by the heat of Pixel 7 Pro, then you can try this module.
Here is the download link.
Cool Down Your Pixel.zip
drive.google.com
My Pixel 7 Pro is already cool. Never ever even mildly warm. But i dont play games
With the case on, when charging it reaches 40 degrees. But otherwise it's... Ok I guess?
Summer is coming and he's going to be hot, using a Pixel in China.
Dovahpig said:
My Pixel 7 Pro is already cool. Never ever even mildly warm. But i dont play games
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Thank you!!!
Great, I had to test this. I have the Battery Guru, and I have set the temperature to 30 but it always prompts, even when I am using it for minimal work. Can you share some performance benchmarks, either with Battery Guru or Better Battery Stats? and the source on github?
Great i want to test
Not trying to be negative as I like this idea!
'The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency'
Do you have data to proof that or are you guessing?
'which will cause the phone to heat up easily'
I have not really noticed that. in fact my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra gets much warmer than the p7p.
Curious what the actual performance gain and heat reduction will be (in numbers).
blackspp said:
Not trying to be negative as I like this idea!
'The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency'
Do you have data to proof that or are you guessing?
'which will cause the phone to heat up easily'
I have not really noticed that. in fact my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra gets much warmer than the p7p.
Curious what the actual performance gain and heat reduction will be (in numbers).
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Data to prove that the efficiency of G2 is poor? Sure, sir.
This shows Tensor G1, and Tensor G2 introduced an additional X1 core (2x X1 cores) and didn't improve the efficiency much apart from being slightly more efficient since it's based on 4nm.
So, long story short, G2 is somewhere between Exynos 2100 and 888 when it comes to efficiency and neither of these two mentioned is really efficient.
Pixel 4's SD855 is more efficient than both Pixel 6 and 7. lol
There is plenty of power measurement data and how the SOC behaves under load, feel free to research.
fenibook said:
The Tensor G2 processor on the pixel 7 series has poor energy efficiency, which will cause the phone to heat up easily.
Therefore, I decided to limit the CPU clock frequency of the Tensor G2. By adjusting the overheating threshold, the CPU clock frequency limit can be achieved. Keep your Pixel 7 Pro super cool, not hot at all, and with longer battery life.
I made a Magisk module for your input, if you are also troubled by the heat of Pixel 7 Pro, then you can try this module.
Here is the download link.
Cool Down Your Pixel.zip
drive.google.com
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mind posting the correction of values? at what temp it starts to throttle? is something else tweaked as well? im too lazy to look at the code myself lol
Whose using this? What are you seeing in terms of battery life gain and is the phone stuttering and stalling during usage?
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Whose using this? What are you seeing in terms of battery life gain and is the phone stuttering and stalling during usage?
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Installed it several days ago. Noticed that charging fell to a crawl, to the point I thought my charger or cable was bad. Uninstalled immediately.
Schroeder09 said:
Whose using this? What are you seeing in terms of battery life gain and is the phone stuttering and stalling during usage?
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No lag, stuttering or freezing. No issues with charging. Temperature stays lower than normally, for example while using chrome or other browser temperature used to spike up to 60-65° within few minutes but now it's down to 50-55°. I didn't notice any change in battery life.
innit said:
temperature used to spike up to 60-65
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How did you measure?
blackspp said:
Curious what the actual performance gain and heat reduction will be (in numbers).
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I'm also curious to know what performance gains or battery efficiencies Pixel phones have with their 'clean' software.
5 second delay in the camera app when changing from photo to video or changing from back camera to front...
krakout said:
Installed it several days ago. Noticed that charging fell to a crawl, to the point I thought my charger or cable was bad. Uninstalled immediately.
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@fenibook , can you add any conditions to the module so it's inactive when the phone is charging either reorh cable or wirelessly?
For me camera works fine. Also, installed again on QPR3 and charging seems ok.
krakout said:
For me camera works fine. Also, installed again on QPR3 and charging seems ok.
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Yes my bad.. It was the one plus hide navigation bar module I used.. It was the only one that worked fine with android 13.. Does anyone know a proper one to hide that pill bar?!
Chrisnik said:
Yes my bad.. It was the one plus hide navigation bar module I used.. It was the only one that worked fine with android 13.. Does anyone know a proper one to hide that pill bar?!
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AOSPmods, works fine for that. Some of the stuff is incompatible with 13 QPR3, but hiding the pill works fine.
krakout said:
AOSPmods, works fine for that. Some of the stuff is incompatible with 13 QPR3, but hiding the pill works fine.
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The brightness bar from quick panel works OK or gets stuck when you slide it?!