Question Best custom rom for stability? - Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro

Hello there, i recently unlocked my bootloader and i'm ready leave MIUI for good. Therefore i was wondering which custom rom is the most useful for my personal use.
I rarely play games and the ones i play are light-weight and not demanding games. I usually browse social media and watch movies.
I don't need many extra features, stability is the most important thing for me.
So i'm looking for a ROM that's close to stock android with a few nice features, that's stable and hopefully battery-efficient.
Thanks in advance.

If You dont play games and want a stabile room go for Arrow OS ,If you want customization go for dot Os ,Cr droid.

I have the same user profile as you: looking for a stable ROM, with OTA updates.
So far as I've read the internet out there, most people go for Xiaomi.eu (for MIUI like experience) or ArrowOS (for a more pure Android experience).
But, of course, there's plenty of other options.
I'm more willing to go for Xiaomi.eu, but I would like to hear other users' experiences too.

marcelorodrigo said:
我和你有相同的用户资料:寻找一个稳定的 ROM,有 OTA 更新。
就我在互联网上的阅读而言,大多数人会选择小米.eu(为了类似 MIUI 的体验)或 ArrowOS(为了更纯粹的 Android 体验)。
但是,当然,还有很多其他选择。
我更愿意去小米.eu,但我也想听听其他用户的体验。
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Crdroid is the best choice.

yajdintaydemir said:
Hello there, i recently unlocked my bootloader and i'm ready leave MIUI for good. Therefore i was wondering which custom rom is the most useful for my personal use.
I rarely play games and the ones i play are light-weight and not demanding games. I usually browse social media and watch movies.
I don't need many extra features, stability is the most important thing for me.
So i'm looking for a ROM that's close to stock android with a few nice features, that's stable and hopefully battery-efficient.
Thanks in advance.
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ArrowOS version 07-09-2021 in the best one regarding smoothness and stabilty, however latest builds (from 07-23-2021 included) aren't good, scaling governor was changed for the worst, and since they switch from stock to their own vendor it have some relevant bugs.
tl:dr: ArrowOS 07-09-2021 build, both official or vanilla. Also LineageOS once it will become official can be a good choice.

pcjabuy said:
Crdroid is the best choice.
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Could you elaborate a bit and share your experience?

Cr Droid has some bugs when I tested , arrow is good but not the best , I recomand Dot OS 5.1.1 it's more stabile , now I'm on Pixel Extended and is working grateful .

marcelorodrigo said:
I have the same user profile as you: looking for a stable ROM, with OTA updates.
So far as I've read the internet out there, most people go for Xiaomi.eu (for MIUI like experience) or ArrowOS (for a more pure Android experience).
But, of course, there's plenty of other options.
I'm more willing to go for Xiaomi.eu, but I would like to hear other users' experiences too.
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My phone comes with Xiaomi EU , and is not grate ,you can go if you want but is the same ****t experience from MIUI ,go for Dot or arrow because MIUI EU is not good .
Edit: is very heavy 5.2GB and not good for games ,and has a very resorce consuming UI .

ArrowOS get worse with every OTAs so no, I won't recommend ArrowOS for now.
LineageOS as listed in its thread has its bug and with only one OTA so far, I can't judge if is good long run yet but with my past experience using it on other phones, it has been great. Still, those are by different maintainers so only time can tell.

From my experience, the best one in terms of stability is CrDroid, i can't find significant bugs on it.

I have 0 issues with ArrowOS no idea what are you people talking about. If about the CPU governor scaling it's intended and i dont see any issue with it, battery life is about the same and it's more fluid. Furthermore it's only matter of time and every custom ROM will be based on OSS vendor so better get used to it.
Can you explain how exactly it gets worse with every OTA?

As long as ROMs keeps get updates, there's always chance getting bugs or issues when update, so there's no "Best custom rom for stability".
Don't update if the ROM is working well makes the ROM stable.
The most stable ROM is the ROM that don't get updates. Everything is always the same. Bug is the same, issue is the same, security vulnerabilities are still there. So stable .

k3lcior said:
I have 0 issues with ArrowOS no idea what are you people talking about. If about the CPU governor scaling it's intended and i dont see any issue with it, battery life is about the same and it's more fluid. Furthermore it's only matter of time and every custom ROM will be based on OSS vendor so better get used to it.
Can you explain how exactly it gets worse with every OTA?
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Personally, I am a power user and the first problem I encountered is how difficult to install Viper4AndriodFX on ArrowOS and only to learn that the "sound feature" is in conflict with it. Most roms don't have such "feature" and when I report such feature is in conflict with other sounds apps, they simply reply "not my problem". Imagine microsoft telling you drivers not working on windows because of a "feature" isn't their problem.
Now, moving on to my first OTA, not the scaling update but the one before that. The first problem I notice is it broke one of my google app, I had to reinstall and reboot 3 times to get it working again. I also do root my phone, if is not obvious enough from the previous paragraph. While the ota did reinstall the magisk but that's that. My bank apps and whatever apps stop working (detecting root) even though it was fine before OTA. Fortunately, google app start updating plenty of apps (not the banks ones), I don't know which apps are the main culprit but it start working again. Now that's a problem, do I have to reinstall all the apps every time I do OTA?
Now, moving on to the previous OTA, the scaling update one. You say is intended but with my experience so far, I call that bs, more like when they syncing with kernel source, they replace the value from that kernel source. Furthermore, "governor" exist for a reason and if you gonna interfere with the job of "governor", why have "governor" in the first place?
Now, looking at the bug reports in ArrowOS page, other device is experiencing "NFC" issues. Now that a big one, I don't know about your country but my country has been utilizing contactless payment for years. While it isn't this device that is bugged but it does worry me.
If you do not have any issues, doesn't mean others don't. It could be just that you don't use your phone extensively like others or you not a power user. Last but not least, you are not the only user and I do appreciate if you don't ridicule others' users feedbacks just because you don't have issue yourself. This statement also apply to @pl1992aw.

All your "issues" (except CPU governor which is not issue or a bug) you have mentioned are related to third party mods (Viper4Android and Magisk specifically).
Also FYI - NFC and Gpay works without Magisk, i use it daily with 5 different banking apps (Nest, Santander, Paypal, Revolut and Gpay). So maybe next time before you blame the ROM try using it without mods?
Also you just discovered why majority of devs ignore bug reports coming from users which are using mods, including ArrowOS. https://blog.arrowos.net/how-to-report-a-bug/
WHAT NOT to report!​
Bugs which are present in unofficial builds or anything that is nit downloaded from our official download server.
Asking about device support, unlocking bootloader, getting TWRP installed and similar queries are not encouraged.
Bugs on a device which has root priveleges from SuperSU, Magisk, Magisk modules or any other rooting methods that exists etc.
Issues which suggest feature requests.
Issues which suggest supporting a new device which we do not own.
Bugs which arise after replacing default apps.
Bugs in devices which occur in third party apps.
Bugs in devices we do not support anymore.
Bugs in ArrowOS experimental builds.
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Lu5ck said:
Last but not least, you are not the only user and I do appreciate if you don't ridicule others' users feedbacks just because you don't have issue yourself. This statement also apply to @pl1992aw.
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Ha ha ha I'm tagged.
I'm not sure which part you thought ridicules other users' feedbacks.
Maybe this part?
The most stable ROM is the ROM that don't get updates. Everything is always the same. Bug is the same, issue is the same, security vulnerabilities are still there. So stable .
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This part is mainly talking about updates of anything in general.
Example: Windows 7.
Windows 7 don't get updates anymore. Everything is always the same. Bug is the same, issue is the same, security vulnerabilities are still there. So stable.
When one updates from Windows 7 to Windows 10, there's many compatibility issues and many complaint from users.
So is Windows 7 not stable? It's still stable as it is and nothing changed.
So is Windows 10 not stable? It's still stable as Microsoft keeps fixing it and update it, but never Best stable, never exist.
Is it forced to update Windows 10 from Windows 7? Yeah maybe when it just came out, but not now. You can choose not to update. Some banking ATM is even still using Windows XP because of compatibility issues, but they also take the risk of vulnerabilities and bugs.
Is Windows the Best OS on the market? Well, maybe, at least from the coverage; maybe not, there's still whole bunch of complaint every time there's update.
What's the whole point? The whole point is that this kind of topic is dynamic.
When there's update with issues, "This ROM is bad".
When there's update that fix all the pre-existing issues, "This ROM is good".
When the new update brings other issues alongside with patch of pre-existing issues, "This ROM is bad".
Question - This ROM is good or bad?
Answer - Subjective and dynamic.
Be prepared with updates. This also applies to MIUI. How's the opinion when people update from MIUI 12.0 to MIUI 12.5? Why do you quit using MIUI?
I do appreciate if you respect one another users' positive feedbacks just because you don't have positive feedbacks.

k3lcior said:
All your "issues" (except CPU governor which is not issue or a bug) you have mentioned are related to third party mods (Viper4Android and Magisk specifically).
Also FYI - NFC and Gpay works without Magisk, i use it daily with 5 different banking apps (Nest, Santander, Paypal, Revolut and Gpay). So maybe next time before you blame the ROM try using it without mods?
Also you just discovered why majority of devs ignore bug reports coming from users which are using mods, including ArrowOS. https://blog.arrowos.net/how-to-report-a-bug/
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Like I have said, you are not a power user or use it extensively like others, your experience is different to others. So, is the power users experience less than that of your experience?
Can you not ridicule other users' experience? Or is your experience more important than others?
Lastly, you seem to selectively read some of things as well.
pl1992aw said:
Ha ha ha I'm tagged.
I'm not sure which part you thought ridicules other users' feedbacks.
Maybe this part?
This part is mainly talking about updates of anything in general.
Example: Windows 7.
Windows 7 don't get updates anymore. Everything is always the same. Bug is the same, issue is the same, security vulnerabilities are still there. So stable.
When one updates from Windows 7 to Windows 10, there's many compatibility issues and many complaint from users.
So is Windows 7 not stable? It's still stable as it is and nothing changed.
So is Windows 10 not stable? It's still stable as Microsoft keeps fixing it and update it, but never Best stable, never exist.
Is it forced to update Windows 10 from Windows 7? Yeah maybe when it just came out, but not now. You can choose not to update. Some banking ATM is even still using Windows XP because of compatibility issues, but they also take the risk of vulnerabilities and bugs.
Is Windows the Best OS on the market? Well, maybe, at least from the coverage; maybe not, there's still whole bunch of complaint every time there's update.
What's the whole point? The whole point is that this kind of topic is dynamic.
When there's update with issues, "This ROM is bad".
When there's update that fix all the pre-existing issues, "This ROM is good".
When the new update brings other issues alongside with patch of pre-existing issues, "This ROM is bad".
Question - This ROM is good or bad?
Answer - Subjective and dynamic.
Be prepared with updates. This also applies to MIUI. How's the opinion when people update from MIUI 12.0 to MIUI 12.5? Why do you quit using MIUI?
I do appreciate if you take up one another users' positive feedbacks just because you don't have positive feedbacks.
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You are mocking others, if that isn't clear enough for you.

Lu5ck said:
You are mocking others, if that isn't clear enough for you.
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Yeah not clear for me. I'm not that smart as you are.
How?

pl1992aw said:
Yeah not clear for me. I'm not that smart as you are.
How?
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Well, it may or may not be your intention. For example
You could write
Yeah not clear for me. How?
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But you chose to include another line
I'm not that smart as you are
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You are already passively doing so.

I've been using Havos OS on previous xiaomi redmi 5 plus... and I think its the best out there... (big fan).... buuuut....I always end up finding some minor bug in ASOP/vanilla based custom roms.... and Havoc isn't official yet for the x3 pro.. so I've install Xiaomi.eu rom last week and I guess that the best rom you can get for POCO x3 pro right now...it's basically same as stock miui rom except you dont get all the anoying ads..and will get all the goodies from china based xiaomi rom

marcelorodrigo said:
I'm more willing to go for Xiaomi.eu, but I would like to hear other users' experiences too.
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can't go wrong with it.... I've been using it for 5 days now.. you wouldn't even notice its custom rom until you check "My device" in settings...
-it comes with MIUI dialer which enables call recording... (which was kinda important for me)
-no ads.... all bloatware removed...
-some stock 'MI apps" (files/email/music/video app) can be disabled (I strongly suggest not to root uninstall them if you don't want issues with future updates)
-minimal preloaded google apps (can be installed from store if needed)
-can be updated easily with a dirty flash from what I read from the website
-also chances of having bugs are minimal since it's basically the same rom as stock miui rom
NOTE: first boot takes a while after flash...be patient....if its more than 15minutes...then its a bootloop. Mine took like 7minutes for initial boot; it will be laggy during the first hour of use as its processing stuff in background....but after that performance should be back to normal
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[Discussion] What rom are you running? 2018 edition

Hey guys, I own a Photon Q and plan on buying another for parts as mine got scratched up bad on a recent hike. i was playing around with other roms and thought I'd start a discussion thread for the few people still rocking the best QWERTY phone ever made.
My setup:
Sailfish OS 2.1.3.7 (need to update to 2.1.4.14 soon)
Rainbow backlight
Sim modded obviously
It's fast, stable, and the battery life on Sailfish is easily double what I got on CM11 or even CM10.2
What other roms have I used?
LOS14.1 - Fast and lot's of fun, but the battery life was just garbage. Battery life was my only complaint, 15% gone in 30 minutes? REALLY?
CM11 - Fast but again, bad battery life.
CM12.1 - Oddly really slow compared to the above two but the battery life was meh, I blame different default clock speeds
CM10.2 - the best android rom. Decent Speed, decent battery life. Only issue is, you know, it's android 4.3.1, I prefer ICS over JB and wish CM9 was available.
Sailfish OS - of course, my favorite. Its super fast, and the battery is at 78% at the end of the day for me. It's something you just need to try for yourself. If you don't mind losing android app support make the switch you won't regret it.
What are you guys using? what tweaks? what rom? what hardware mods? what new phones/old phones are you looking at?
The Best rom for the PQ is still the Jelly bean PacMan.
Whatever, given my actual SIM has troubles with it, I'm using the LineageOS Marshmallow release, moddedd to use the micro G instead of a ton of google crap.
Speaking of microG, looks like almost no one is aware that we have a ready to go nougat rom built for the PQ, since December 2017
https://download.lineage.microg.org/xt897/
P.S.
About battery life, it's my last problem since my Photons (and Droid 4) are all modded to 2600 or 3000mA/h batteries.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/photon-q-4g-lte/general/real-2600mah-battery-mod-t3308399
A mod too cheap and too easy to accomplish to stay with stock batteries (possibly exhausted ones, even if bought brand new, given the 6 years timeframe)
I'm running Lineage 14.1 and for me it's really slow lately, along with the poor battery life. I recently wiped and started fresh and only installed minimum things I use, but can't even play solitare now without it lagging.
In the past I've ran everything starting with CM11, 12 and 13. There was a carbon ROM I ran once when CM updates were stalled on our device but can't remember which OTMH. I never ran stock or CM10 so no experience with Jellybean or what limitations it might have.
I'd consider sailfish but there are two apps I kinda rely on, google hangouts/dialer (for google voice), and accession (an app that works with my home voip phone # that is included with my internet subscription) and although I've never looked for sailfish apps, I doubt they have em...
Never heard of MicroG, time to read...
The Solutor said:
The Best rom for the PQ is still the Jelly bean PacMan.
Whatever, given my actual SIM has troubles with it, I'm using the LineageOS Marshmallow release, moddedd to use the micro G instead of a ton of google crap.
Speaking of microG, looks like almost no one is aware that we have a ready to go nougat rom built for the PQ, since December 2017
https://download.lineage.microg.org/xt897/
P.S.
About battery life, it's my last problem since my Photons (and Droid 4) are all modded to 2600 or 3000mA/h batteries.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/photon-q-4g-lte/general/real-2600mah-battery-mod-t3308399
A mod too cheap and too easy to accomplish to stay with stock batteries (possibly exhausted ones, even if bought brand new, given the 6 years timeframe)
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c-could it be... an easier alternative??? http://de.tmart.com/2850mAh-High-Ca...Motorola-EB41-XT894-XT898-Golden_p252664.html
I don't have a soldering setup so anything I can just toss in there is great.
Galaxyninja66 said:
c-could it be... an easier alternative??? http://de.tmart.com/2850mAh-High-Ca...Motorola-EB41-XT894-XT898-Golden_p252664.html
I don't have a soldering setup so anything I can just toss in there is great.
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The best you can expect from it is a 1780mA battery in a good state, that may be an improvement over a "tired" old stock one, but most likely you will get a stock battery folded in a shiny gold sticker.
The soldering iron is not that important, a bit of soldering skill and manuality is.
Nothing dramatic given we are talking of just 4 soldering point, far easier than the ones needed to SIM mod the phone
You can get a cheap soldering iron good enough for the purpose for 10€ or so, and you can get a LG battery for a similar price (and you can get them locally to avoid the import fees).
But you can't buy the skill, better to ask to a local technician if you feel the job too complicate for you.
The Solutor said:
The best you can expect from it is a 1780mA battery in a good state, that may be an improvement over a "tired" old stock one, but most likely you will get a stock battery folded in a shiny gold sticker.
The soldering iron is not that important, a bit of soldering skill and manuality is.
Nothing dramatic given we are talking of just 4 soldering point, far easier than the ones needed to SIM mod the phone
You can get a cheap soldering iron good enough for the purpose for 10€ or so, and you can get a LG battery for a similar price (and you can get them locally to avoid the import fees).
But you can't buy the skill, better to ask to a local technician if you feel the job too complicate for you.
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*heavy breathing*
this is way over my head. I know how but I don't feel like buying a soldering iron and a bunch of batteries.
Battery life is fine in sailfish, ~70-80% end of day with data and wifi on and occasional usage checking the time and texting and browsing image boards and stuff.
enigma9o7 said:
I'm running Lineage 14.1 and for me it's really slow lately, along with the poor battery life. I recently wiped and started fresh and only installed minimum things I use, but can't even play solitare now without it lagging.
In the past I've ran everything starting with CM11, 12 and 13. There was a carbon ROM I ran once when CM updates were stalled on our device but can't remember which OTMH. I never ran stock or CM10 so no experience with Jellybean or what limitations it might have.
I'd consider sailfish but there are two apps I kinda rely on, google hangouts/dialer (for google voice), and accession (an app that works with my home voip phone # that is included with my internet subscription) and although I've never looked for sailfish apps, I doubt they have em...
Never heard of MicroG, time to read...
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Well Lollipop, Marshmallow and Nougat can be even faster than ICS or JB (often way faster), especially if you install them on F2FS.
What makes the phone really slow are two things:
#1 Google recent services (just use the microG)
Current "Pico" Gapps .zip = 129MB,
MicroG + Fdroid store .zip = 5.8MB
MicroG + Google Playstore .zip = 29MB
#2 Recent pointlessly bloated apps.
No one force you to use, (say) the last version of facebook AND messenger, just use Aptoide to "downgrade" them to a decent version.
The last time I checked Facebook v 1.xxx was still doing the same job as the latest FB + Messenger apps (a better job being not split over 2 apps).
But FB 1.xx was 4MB or so, the latest FB+ Messenger are something like 72+48 MB (!!!).
The same is applicable to almost every app
In short don't be fool, use what you need and what fits your needs, not what google/fb/whatever wants.
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Galaxyninja66 said:
*heavy breathing*
this is way over my head. I know how but I don't feel like buying a soldering iron and a bunch of batteries.
.
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Obviously that's matter of personal preferences, and depends on the status of the old battery. If it's good enough it's good enough.
Battery life is fine in sailfish, ~70-80% end of day with data and wifi on and occasional usage checking the time and texting and browsing image boards and stuff.
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Frankly being an old Maemo user I had high hopes in sailfish, but when I tested it briefly I didn't like it that much. A thing that I especially missed was a decent browser doing a good text wrap/reflow.
Google genius managed to remove it in Android as well, since KitKat, but on android there are very good alternatives Opera, Yandex, HTC Internet, and other choices like Dolphin (until MM), Firefox + addons and so on.
What's the Sailfish status in that area?
The Solutor said:
Well Lollipop, Marshmallow and Nougat can be even faster than ICS or JB (often way faster), especially if you install them on F2FS.
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I have data as F2FS as CM didn't support f2fs system back when I first did that. Just now I rebooted to TWRP and reformatted cache as F2FS as that seemed safe and easy. Do current versions of LOS support F2FS system too? If so how to do system, format then reflash?
I looked into MicroG this afternoon. No hangouts/dialer support, and that's a must-have for me as I use google voice as primary contact number, I don't even know my real cell #s. Woulda been nice to try tho, kinda like Sailfish!
I have very few apps installed, certainly no facebook or any social media anything besides hangouts, can't really think of anything to downgrade. Ah well.
enigma9o7 said:
I have data as F2FS as CM didn't support f2fs system back when I first did that. Just now I rebooted to TWRP and reformatted cache as F2FS as that seemed safe and easy. Do current versions of LOS support F2FS system too? If so how to do system, format then reflash?
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F2FS is supported since LP.
There is also a PQ KitKat ROM with backported F2FS support.
To get full advantage of it you should have both /data and /cache partitions on f2fs.
So do a nandroid backup of your data partition, then reformat it, then restore.
Keep in mind that your "internal SD" is just a subfolder of /data, so you need to backup your data inside it as well, or just move temporarily them to the external SD
There is no point on formatting /system given it's mostly static, and also given the rom installer will reformat it to ext4 anyway.
I looked into MicroG this afternoon. No hangouts/dialer support, and that's a must-have for me as I use google voice as primary contact number, I don't even know my real cell #s. Woulda been nice to try tho, kinda like Sailfish!
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I don't have google voice on my phone since the days of Milestone 1, which come with a good internal voice recognizing app, small, local and effective (I think it still works)
By the way, although the idea is to get rid of most of the original Gapps as possible, most of them still works on properly patched microG phones, I have no idea if Hangouts is included in that list, never used it in my life.
The Solutor said:
So do a nandroid backup of your data partition, then reformat it, then restore.
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There is no point on formatting /system given it's mostly static, and also given the rom installer will reformat it to ext4 anyway.
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By the way, although the idea is to get rid of most of the original Gapps as possible, most of them still works on properly patched microG phones, I have no idea if Hangouts is included in that list, never used it in my life.
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As I mentioned, in my case, data was already f2fs and I just did cache. Sounds like still no support for system. So I'm set, thanks.
I already searched about hangouts and microG, no dice, read several posts including recent ones, people wanting it for google voice no luck. there is some limited support for some IMs but anyways I need full incoming calls and dialer.
enigma9o7 said:
Sounds like still no support for system. So I'm set, thanks.
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System is basically a read only partition that changes only when you install a new rom, a zip from TWRP, or when you use a root file explorer to change somthing.
No writes = no need for a smarter FS.
That said I believe that, if you backup your system partition then you restore it on FSFS, it will work. The kernel supports it and I don't think it's "racist" about the partition involved.
Just there is no point in doing that, minimal (if any) improvements, v.s. possible troubles.
I already searched about hangouts and microG, no dice, read several posts including recent ones, people wanting it for google voice no luck. there is some limited support for some IMs but anyways I need full incoming calls and dialer.
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Ok.
But even on a Gapp Based ROM is still a pleasure to use Yalp over the Playstore.
When the resources are limited, anything that can be removed/replaced by a leaner version helps to improve the responsiveness.
The Solutor said:
Well Lollipop, Marshmallow and Nougat can be even faster than ICS or JB (often way faster), especially if you install them on F2FS.
What makes the phone really slow are two things:
#1 Google recent services (just use the microG)
Current "Pico" Gapps .zip = 129MB,
MicroG + Fdroid store .zip = 5.8MB
MicroG + Google Playstore .zip = 29MB
Stock browser is stock browser : (
I don't mind it and most people don;t, but the next best thing is webcat, which is basically the same thing.
#2 Recent pointlessly bloated apps.
No one force you to use, (say) the last version of facebook AND messenger, just use Aptoide to "downgrade" them to a decent version.
The last time I checked Facebook v 1.xxx was still doing the same job as the latest FB + Messenger apps (a better job being not split over 2 apps).
But FB 1.xx was 4MB or so, the latest FB+ Messenger are something like 72+48 MB (!!!).
The same is applicable to almost every app
In short don't be fool, use what you need and what fits your needs, not what google/fb/whatever wants.
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Obviously that's matter of personal preferences, and depends on the status of the old battery. If it's good enough it's good enough.
Frankly being an old Maemo user I had high hopes in sailfish, but when I tested it briefly I didn't like it that much. A thing that I especially missed was a decent browser doing a good text wrap/reflow.
Google genius managed to remove it in Android as well, since KitKat, but on android there are very good alternatives Opera, Yandex, HTC Internet, and other choices like Dolphin (until MM), Firefox + addons and so on.
What's the Sailfish status in that area?
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honestly? The browser is what you get, that's it : (
The issue (for you atleast) is that most people, myself included, don't mind the stock browser enough to develop a new application. webcat is the only alternative and event then it is basically an even more barebones version of the stock firefox based browser. I notice the bad text wrapping too, but to be honest the benefits outweigh the consequences of using Sailfish in my opinion, but if you have the battery mod, you don't really need to run it unless you hate android's UI (like me). granted I loved holo ICS, but anything after or before 4.0.x I didn't like much, especially compared to sailfish.
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honestly? The browser is what you get, that's it : (
The issue (for you atleast) is that most people, myself included, don't mind the stock browser enough to develop a new application. webcat is the only alternative and event then it is basically an even more barebones version of the stock firefox based browser. I notice the bad text wrapping too, but to be honest the benefits outweigh the consequences of using Sailfish in my opinion, but if you have the battery mod, you don't really need to run it unless you hate android's UI (like me). granted I loved holo ICS, but anything after or before 4.0.x I didn't like much, especially compared to sailfish.
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Frankly If it was for my I was still using Gingerbread, Surely its UI was not silky and refined like the new iterations, but the UX was light years better than anything that came later.
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Back to the browser, I feel incredible that I was able to have a good mobile experience using my P800 (which is the very first real smartphone, from 2002) or even a micro phone like the siemens SL-55 with its stamp sized display, while I couldn't get the same, in the AD2018, on a brand new smartphone, which has hundreds of times the power and the memory of them.
I feel just retarded that google moved the setting menu on the top left corner, just when the display started to become surf board sized, and i could continue for a day...
I feel completely crazy how most users decided to back any idiotic idea spooned to them by the big brothers. Starting from the terminology.
Think to "Sideloading"... seriously ?
Installing a program on my device, possibly a program written and compiled by myself is SIDE loading ? ?
I couldn't think to anything more "straight" and less "side" than that.
In short I try to limit the damage exactly like you do, then we give different value to different aspects of the device usage. Which is normal and human.
The point is not how we try to fix a problem, the point is that nowadays most people doesn't even realize that there is a problem to solve.:crying:

[ROM][UNOFFICIAL][7.1.2][NX551J][OMS] CarbonROM 5.1 for Nubia M2 [28/07/18]

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CarbonROM is an aftermarket firmware based on the Android Open Source Project. We are dedicated to fast, stable, and feature-filled roms, honesty and communication with our users, and openness with our code. We like frequent builds, with the very latest and greatest hardware support and fixes. We strive to not only provide you with the best rom we can build, but also to give back to the Android community and our fellow developers. For us, this is about creating something we can be proud of and hope you will enjoy.
Please feel free to look, build, and use our code at CarbonROM's GitHub... and at CarbonROM Gerrit.
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We spend an astonishing amount of time developing this software. We can't spend much time on XDA as a result, so if you need support, please try the following:
1) Search. Search, search, search. Yes, you. I don't care how unique or important your question is, it's very likely someone has adressed it already. Especially if you're even close to new at this.
2) Read our FAQ, which can be found on our website. Carbon FAQ
3) Ask a question in your device forum. Someone will no doubt try to help you. Warning: this help may come in the form of telling you it's a dumb question that has been asked before. See step 1 - such are the perils of asking questions when you haven't done the research yourself. Android is about helping yourself.
4) Join our Discord server! There, you can connect with other Carbon users and our developers, and you can get quicker responses to your bug reports. The invite link is right below.
We recommend OpenGApps.
What Works
Wifi
Cameras
Fingerprint (But it's a bit fiddly)
Softkey LED's
Basically the vast majority of stuff
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Bluetooth
Playback of FLAC music files through the stock music player and some apps like BlackPlayer
Rotation
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CarbonROM, ROM for the Nubia M2
Contributors
tuxdude143
Source Code: https://github.com/CarbonROM
Kernel: https://github.com/HighwayStar/android_kernel_nubia_msm8953
Device Tree: https://github.com/HighwayStar/android_device_nubia_nx551j
Vendor Blobs: https://github.com/HighwayStar/android_vendor_nubia_nx551j
ROM OS Version: 7.1.2 Nougat
ROM Kernel: Linux 3.18.x
Based On: AOSP/CAF
Version Information
Status: Beta
Created 2018-07-28
Last Updated 2018-07-28
Personal Donation Link: https://paypal.me/tuxdude
Don't feel like you have to donate anything. I'm just happy to know that people are using the stuff I work on.
Come and join the Nubia M2 English Development Telegram Group: https://t.me/joinchat/C3fXPhDRoLRN5sBmm8lsfg
Please report any bugs you find in the thread in detail
wow, great work @tuxdude143!!
cant wait to try this rom, keep the good work bro...
Updated the opening post to reflect that music playback does actually work but FLAC files seem to be a bit fiddly. They refuse to work in the stock music player and some apps like BlackPlayer but they will play just fine in other apps like VLC or Foobar2000. Your mileage may vary.
MP3 playback works absolutely fine in all apps.
In the next build I plan to have bluetooth and rotation working and I'll try and bundle the nubia camera and gallery into the rom itself.
Thanks for your effort to develop for this device. Hope to try your rom as soon as my device arrives
Thanx
dmilz said:
Thanks for your effort to develop for this device. Hope to try your rom as soon as my device arrives
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Thank you Tuxdude for making a custom rom for our Nubia M2.
i did install the rom and seems to be a beginnig of a good rom for our phones
unfortunatly i can not test this rom for long because bluetooth is not functioning and i need my bluetooth every day so i hope this will be solved soon
so i can do some long term testing and use it as dayly rom to help to find the bugs left and give more imput
tuxdude143 said:
In the next build I plan to have bluetooth and rotation working and I'll try and bundle the nubia camera and gallery into the rom itself.
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Thank you Tuxdude. And thank you to Roland for make me aware of this ROM.
Do you have an idea of when do you plan to post the new build? Bluetooth is really necessary.
Anyway, I'll test it, as I can live without Bluetooth for the next few days. I hope there'll be few days
EDIT: I've been trying out the ROM. So far, so good. I don't have those reboots that I had with Lineage using substratum. Almost every hour I had a reboot. Not with Carbon.
EDIT 2: After more than 24 hours of use and two times charged, I can tell that battery use, even as we know that we have to let the ROM settle, is very high. From 100% to 15% in just 5 hours. Two times. Also, it is not a fast ROM. It takes a couple of seconds to register touch and launch the app. It still needs several maintenance and work. But on the plus side, substratum keeps working like a charm.
The only other bug that I found is that the Menu/Recents button doesn't work, even if I change their settings. Changing settings work for the menu button.
estuardo4 said:
Thank you Tuxdude. And thank you to Roland for make me aware of this ROM.
Do you have an idea of when do you plan to post the new build? Bluetooth is really necessary.
Anyway, I'll test it, as I can live without Bluetooth for the next few days. I hope there'll be few days
EDIT: I've been trying out the ROM. So far, so good. I don't have those reboots that I had with Lineage using substratum. Almost every hour I had a reboot. Not with Carbon.
EDIT 2: After more than 24 hours of use and two times charged, I can tell that battery use, even as we know that we have to let the ROM settle, is very high. From 100% to 15% in just 5 hours. Two times. Also, it is not a fast ROM. It takes a couple of seconds to register touch and launch the app. It still needs several maintenance and work. But on the plus side, substratum keeps working like a charm.
The only other bug that I found is that the Menu/Recents button doesn't work, even if I change their settings. Changing settings work for the menu button.
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Thanks for reporting these bugs. At the moment I'm looking into fixing bluetooth, rotation etc and hope to have them working in the next build.
Battery usage is also something I'm working on. I know Deep Sleep works fine but battery management isn't the greatest. I'll try and either fix that in the next update or the update after.
Thanks for the feedback!
tuxdude143 said:
Thanks for reporting these bugs. At the moment I'm looking into fixing bluetooth, rotation etc and hope to have them working in the next build.
Battery usage is also something I'm working on. I know Deep Sleep works fine but battery management isn't the greatest. I'll try and either fix that in the next update or the update after.
Thanks for the feedback!
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Bluetooth is really important, so please help us solving this issue first.
But the reliability and choppiness issue is huge on my phone. Even with the ROM installed and no other app or tweak on it, it is really slow to launch a default app. Also, I'm using OpenGapps because on the link that you wrote for MindtheGapps, I cannot install it. The Play Store is there, but as soon as I launched it, a message saying that I don't have Google Play Services installed pops out. And going to recovery to reinstall it gets me on the same message. I even tried to install both ARM versions that are on the site, but with the same results. And in one instance, I just installed the ROM with no Gapps, and the same slow launching times happen, even launching the calculator app takes a few seconds.
estuardo4 said:
Bluetooth is really important, so please help us solving this issue first.
But the reliability and choppiness issue is huge on my phone. Even with the ROM installed and no other app or tweak on it, it is really slow to launch a default app. Also, I'm using OpenGapps because on the link that you wrote for MindtheGapps, I cannot install it. The Play Store is there, but as soon as I launched it, a message saying that I don't have Google Play Services installed pops out. And going to recovery to reinstall it gets me on the same message. I even tried to install both ARM versions that are on the site, but with the same results. And in one instance, I just installed the ROM with no Gapps, and the same slow launching times happen, even launching the calculator app takes a few seconds.
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I'm using opengapps as well. I just did a copy and paste of the thread template for carbonROM when I made the thread which is why the reference to using mindthegapps is there.
I'll probably update the OP to say you should just use openGapps since those seem to work absolutely fine.
Also apologies for no update this week. University has been keeping me busy so I've been juggling around a lot of stuff. I'll look into repairing the major bugs and releasing an update as soon as possible though
tuxdude143 said:
Also apologies for no update this week. University has been keeping me busy so I've been juggling around a lot of stuff. I'll look into repairing the major bugs and releasing an update as soon as possible though
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Take all the time you may need. As long as it's as soon as possible
I understand. I just wish more people could download and test the ROM, but I suspect Bluetooth is really needed to be working.
I'm using it as my daily driver and I can cope with the glitches, as long as my substratum themes keep working. Also, many people probably don't know this, but with Carbon OS, if you install a layer, there's no need to reboot the system to apply it.
hi guys I want to give you great news ... the automatic rotation works ... you just have to activate all the rotations from the settings :laugh:
WHEW things have been quiet. Sorry for not having posted an update in so long. University has been preventing me from really doing any solid work on this.
I'm planning on trying to make some new builds based against the new device tree, kernel etc that highwaystar is using for the new builds of LineageOS 14.1. The hope is that will fix some of the bugs currently present. I currently have no real ETA for when I'll get that build all sorted out what with being up to my neck in university work but I'll try and get it out there at some point.
Thanks for all your patience, I know how restless you must be for an update and I can understand that. Once I have some more time on my hands then I should be able to pump out a new build

Redmi 9a flashed with Treble GSI (stock android ROM) - just saying thanks

Hi everyone,
I've been away from the ROM scene for a few years and was pleasantly surprised to find out that even a MediaTek phone these days can be flashed with a ROM different from its original. With a lot of bumps and information from this thread and others, I was able to test the Lineage, Havoc, and Treble ROMs, flashing through adb commands on fastbootd on unsigned xiaomi drivers. The one with the best compatibility so far is an older ROM, the Treble 10 GSI bundled with go gapps. Treble 11, the latest, doesn't have a working "recent apps" button (multitasker/app switcher). I'm not using this phone as a camera phone, but I did install an older Gcam (Gcam 2.3, I think) by googling the phone's mediatek processor, Helio G25.
On stock android, I do feel like the phone is much improved from the MIUI OS's bloat. I feel that Xiaomi as of late is putting too much adware, a far cry from when I bought my first phone from them (A Redmi 1S).
I would like to thank everyone here for the recovery files, twrp, etc.
I'd love to know how you accomplished this, as an otherwise decent phone is, I feel, crippled by MIUI's ridiculous bloat.
Bludwurst said:
I'd love to know how you accomplished this, as an otherwise decent phone is, I feel, crippled by MIUI's ridiculous bloat.
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Hi @Bludwurst ... I'll see if I can write something semi-coherent about it. Please give me a few days. But the general method was pretty similar to flashing other treble-based ROMs, the important thing is that the phone boots into FASTBOOTD ("elevated" fastboot) and the rom you're flashing is the correct architecture with some Google Go apps (if you want it to be easier to set up). They update every few weeks, so depending on the progress, it may even be feasible to try out the other more popular ROMs. Lineage was 2nd best in my experience, and Android 11 to boot with its own recovery, but it doesn't come bundled with Google Go apps, you'll have to flash the Google apps yourself.
Major caveat about the treble GSI i'm using though -- the Gcam with HDR on has a chance of shutting down (exiting). It's less of an issue when the setting is off. I do have a separate primary camera phone so that wasn't an issue to me.
I've had the phone for about 3 weeks now. I think the biggest difference between this ROM and the MIUI OS is that the MIUI OS is very aggressive about killing my VPN (Ad blocker) and other background apps. With this Treble GSI (Android 10, not 11), I won't claim that my mediatek phone suddenly became a snapdragon, but there's no unexpected app-killing, which is very important for Blokada to stay alive.
**Has any other app crapped out (crashed/exited) since I changed ROMs?**
I don't run games on this phone, so I can't say if there's a difference between MIUI and Treble, but most of the productivity stuff is running okay (time tracker, markdown editor, pdf viewer, etc.) there IS some slowdown when running mobile youtube on my browser (yes, i don't run the youtube app... there may be an improvement if you're using a dedicated app.
I bought this phone as my work tracker phone. Before, with the MIUI stuff, it would stutter after a few apps were loaded. This is improved, but under heavy loads (10+ tabs, video playing), the phone is likely to complain.
**How's the battery life**
I bought this phone for the battery life, so I'd say I'm pretty satisfied on that front. The difference between the MIUI and the Treble GSI.... there's some small improvement with the Treble GSI. But it is (after a few weeks of use) not as much of a "battery boost" as I initially thought. Maybe this is because MIUI keeps killing background apps that now stay on? Can't tell.
**Any other issues**
I had to fix brightness and I think the headphone bug. I still have the commands somewhere, I'll dig it up.
Next, I am not sure if this phone will get security issues moving forward, or if i'll have to keep reflashing to a later GSI. I haven't checked if there's a way to sideload kernel security patches.
**Worth it to switch?**
Yeah, absolutely. Not having to reload apps is a huge deal, and not losing working data while typing helps. Tradeoff is camera hdr and security.
This all sounds very interesting.
I've admittedly not kept up with the Android scene (to call it something), so I'm a bit lost regarding Treble ROMs and such; I'll try to catch up a bit.
Take your time, I can wait.
(It goes without saying that, should I not like the results, I can always bail and reinstall an official Xiaomi ROM for this device, no?)
Yes, MIUI is extremely aggressive killing apps, and getting it to stop is rather confusing (it's not enough to turn off battery optimizations... You need to dig into Settings).
I managed to stop it from killing Netguard, at least...
I also don't play games or otherwise make extremely heavy use of the phone; I also don't care much for camera apps, so such disadvantages aren't dealbreakers for me.
Thank you for your reply
can you tell what gsi did you install? tkss
Luelu said:
can you tell what gsi did you install? tkss
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You should use arm32_binder64-ab variants for this device, and you should flash an image that is THE SAME ANDROID VERSION you currently have or 1 version above. Example if you have Android 11, Flash Android 11R version, if you have Android 10 only flash ANDROID 10Q versions, etc.
To find out what GSI image should you use, this app makes it easier, it recommends you which one to download. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=tk.hack5.treblecheck&hl=&gl=US --
#Another mirror:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/hacki...lease/treble-info-5-0-6-android-apk-download/
2 Years later, i made a guide on how to flash it , maybe it can be useful to you.
Xiaomi Redmi 9A 9i 9AT 10A
Notes about tinkering with Android Project Treble. Contribute to phhusson/treble_experimentations development by creating an account on GitHub.
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s_code said:
Hi everyone,
I've been away from the ROM scene for a few years and was pleasantly surprised to find out that even a MediaTek phone these days can be flashed with a ROM different from its original. With a lot of bumps and information from this thread and others, I was able to test the Lineage, Havoc, and Treble ROMs, flashing through adb commands on fastbootd on unsigned xiaomi drivers. The one with the best compatibility so far is an older ROM, the Treble 10 GSI bundled with go gapps. Treble 11, the latest, doesn't have a working "recent apps" button (multitasker/app switcher). I'm not using this phone as a camera phone, but I did install an older Gcam (Gcam 2.3, I think) by googling the phone's mediatek processor, Helio G25.
On stock android, I do feel like the phone is much improved from the MIUI OS's bloat. I feel that Xiaomi as of late is putting too much adware, a far cry from when I bought my first phone from them (A Redmi 1S).
I would like to thank everyone here for the recovery files, twrp, etc.
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by the way can you share the links you used to download those roms? I wanna try em out too

Development MARS_SOMs - Stock - VoLTE, VoWifi, Carrier Video Calls

MARS SOM
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Years of porting, Stock ROMs and My Patches came to an end...
Since Magisk has grown to a full root and modding Solution for Android have i switched with My Development to creating Magisk Module Patches. Or in other Words, Systemless ROMs.
Mainly focusing on extending the Android Build Props are there also pure Parts of the latest Pixel Device Firmwares. Get the full Pixel UI Expierence, get extra Pixel Functions and Apps together with a better overall Experience. Better Audio In- and Output, better Display Calibrations, better Performance, more Functions packed into a simple Magisk Module.
Features:
Ported Pixel Apps
Ported Pixel Features
Ported Pixel UI & Colors
Ported Pixel Black Dark Mode
Xperia Sound Enhancements
Xperia Pro-I Content Ported
HTC UI & User Sounds
Xperia Live Wallpapers
Enabled various Android Features
Enabled various Hardware Features
Enhanced Security Support
Enhanced Display Quality
Enhanced Audio Output
Enhanced Audio Input
Enhanced FHD/4K HDR Output
Enhanced Camera Functionalities
Enhanced Graphical Handling & Rendering
Enhanced Network Functionalities
Faster booting and Reboots
Requirements:
Magisk Stable 24+
Android 13 Stock Xperia FW
Magisk Init.d Injector
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How stable is this? I would like to install on my Xperia 5 III. Any known issues so far?
SPEEDHAMMER said:
How stable is this? I would like to install on my Xperia 5 III. Any known issues so far?
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I can just speak for the 2019 Xperias:
-BT AAC Codec isn't working actually
-Calls may have no Audio
But that's all on My Bug List. It seems like the latest Versions aren't booting on the Xperia 1 III so it will be the same on the 5 III. But I will help to fix that if People are willed to test around... That's why I'm also on GitHub...
Updated the Thread, MARS_SOMs and GitHub<3
Miustone said:
I can just speak for the 2019 Xperias:
-BT AAC Codec isn't working actually
-Calls may have no Audio
But that's all on My Bug List. It seems like the latest Versions aren't booting on the Xperia 1 III so it will be the same on the 5 III. But I will help to fix that if People are willed to test around... That's why I'm also on GitHub...
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Are you willing to develop a stable version for me? I am willing to donate higher amounts to fund the development. I'm quite tired of the way Sony does their software.
The auto downgrade to 60Hz everytime the phone gets slightly hot. That software feature itself drives me mad from using the phone.
SPEEDHAMMER said:
Are you willing to develop a stable version for me? I am willing to donate higher amounts to fund the development. I'm quite tired of the way Sony does their software.
The auto downgrade to 60Hz everytime the phone gets slightly hot. That software feature itself drives me mad from using the phone.
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Totally agree with You about the Software since the Z3 (Z3+/Z4). They started a Semi-Public Beta Program to optimize the Firmwares with an Bareboned AOSP. Still lacking a lot of the old famous Featurs like the Mini Apps, Extra Apps, Widgets, Brands like Cybershot, Walkman and so on... It's sad!
I'm really trying to get the best out of it (still). So i will solve the issues asap (next 24hrs).
Let's try to solve the Performance issues right after that!
I splitted My MARS SOMs into 3 Gears. Everything is explained on GitHub. Also updated the Threads and the ReadMe's. Also made huge Progress with My own Overlay. It's a firsty on Android Development (including incredible and tons of Features). Give "Gear Second" and "Gear First" a try for now. It should work fine yet (except for the Audio issues maybe)
Miustone said:
Totally agree with You about the Software since the Z3 (Z3+/Z4). They started a Semi-Public Beta Program to optimize the Firmwares with an Bareboned AOSP. Still lacking a lot of the old famous Featurs like the Mini Apps, Extra Apps, Widgets, Brands like Cybershot, Walkman and so on... It's sad!
I'm really trying to get the best out of it (still). So i will solve the issues asap (next 24hrs).
Let's try to solve the Performance issues right after that!
I splitted My MARS SOMs into 3 Gears. Everything is explained on GitHub. Also updated the Threads and the ReadMe's. Also made huge Progress with My own Overlay. It's a firsty on Android Development (including incredible and tons of Features). Give "Gear Second" and "Gear First" a try for now. It should work fine yet (except for the Audio issues maybe)
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Yes thank you for your contributions so far. I will be more than happy to test out once it can be installed. Looking forward to supporting your work by way of finance and feedback.
Are you able to integrate with Franko Kernel Manager?
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Yes thank you for your contributions so far. I will be more than happy to test out once it can be installed. Looking forward to supporting your work by way of finance and feedback.
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Thank You very much for Your Support! Really appreciate it! I just updated MARS again and it's free of bugs i think. I just need help to find out why it Bootloops on 2020 and 2021 Devices...
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Are you able to integrate with Franko Kernel Manager?
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I bought this App too, but do You mean a own Kernel for the Xperias? Or are You thinking about Profiles for the Stock Kernel?
Miustone said:
Thank You very much for Your Support! Really appreciate it! I just updated MARS again and it's free of bugs i think. I just need help to find out why it Bootloops on 2020 and 2021 Devices...
I bought this App too, but do You mean a own Kernel for the Xperias? Or are You thinking about Profiles for the Stock Kernel?
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We should be the one to thank you! I will try your new build out and give feedback. Yes i think the Xperia needs s custom kernel or custom profiles at least.
Something is not right with how the stock kernel processes tasks. Games do not get the phone hot. But teamviewer, uber and google maps does for some reason. One other Xperia 5 III owner reported that the Franko Kernel Manager solves this issue. Perhaps we can take reference from this and improve?
SPEEDHAMMER said:
We should be the one to thank you! I will try your new build out and give feedback. Yes i think the Xperia needs s custom kernel or custom profiles at least.
Something is not right with how the stock kernel processes tasks. Games do not get the phone hot. But teamviewer, uber and google maps does for some reason. One other Xperia 5 III owner reported that the Franko Kernel Manager solves this issue. Perhaps we can take reference from this and improve?
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The Problems with the Performance should be fixed over the MARS Base SOM. I played around with the Kernel Settings and it doesn't seems to improve stuff further. LMK and ZRAM are the bad Guys at the end. Paired with wrong rendering of certain Apps like Google Maps. Everything of that and more should be improved with My fully working SOMs. I would be glad to make it work on the last 6 Flagships from SONY (Maybe even the Pro Devices). Just need some help with the testing...
Really reached some big Goals the last week or so. Really looking forward to make it 100% stable for everyone. There are also more things planned for our Xperias which are really ambitious...
Miustone said:
The Problems with the Performance should be fixed over the MARS Base SOM. I played around with the Kernel Settings and it doesn't seems to improve stuff further. LMK and ZRAM are the bad Guys at the end. Paired with wrong rendering of certain Apps like Google Maps. Everything of that and more should be improved with My fully working SOMs. I would be glad to make it work on the last 6 Flagships from SONY (Maybe even the Pro Devices). Just need some help with the testing...
Really reached some big Goals the last week or so. Really looking forward to make it 100% stable for everyone. There are also more things planned for our Xperias which are really ambitious...
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Hey there. Just managed to install your SOM and test it out for a while. Overall stability is there and performance seems identical to stock.
Just would like to raise some stability issues:
Unable to turn on Wi-Fi on my end so far. Turning it on through notification shade shortcut causes System UI to freeze momentarily and W-Fi goes off after that. Turning it on through settings causes Settings to freeze momentarily and Wi-Fi goes off after that. It doesn't show list of Wi-Fi networks
Screen refresh rate still drops to 60Hz when phone gets warm and there is no way to force change it back to 90Hz or to turn this feature off
Also raising these suggestions:
We have to find a way to improve the time from fingerprint scan to home screen. It has taken too long since the first Xperia 5. Also, pressing the power button and resting finger on the sensor at the same time seems to get to home screen faster. Just resting finger on the sensor without pressing the power button takes a longer time. I think it is something to do with software
Is it feasible to port over Lineage OS or similar?
Thank you and looking forward to hearing from you and supporting your work!
Thanks again for Your detailed Feedback @SPEEDHAMMER ! I have just released another big Update which should improve things further...
I would really like to see You on My Disco rd Server to share more Details about my upcoming work with You!
I'm about to create an Xperia Exclusive OS with many great Features. There are already some people around and I'm sure they would like to see You too!
HUGE UPDATES INCOMING!
MARS will be available over GitHub Releases so You can easily Download ready-to-use Zips of MARS for Magisk. Also included are now OTA Updates for MARS over Magisk and the focus Changed to GSIs again. Use PHH AOSP 12 or PIXEL EXPIERENCE 12 by Ponces to unleash Your Xperias
Excuse me, I've just come back after 3 years of stock ROMs. What is the order of flashing the Pixel Experience? I used to use a custom recovery, but as I see there's no such one for 5 III and I didn't find any instruction. Do I just flash the ROM via "fastboot flash system_b pe.img"?
Now I have a stock ROM with all-working Magisk. Do I need a full-wipe also? There's a GSI flashing after Magisk installation in your general instruction, right?
Graegor said:
Excuse me, I've just come back after 3 years of stock ROMs. What is the order of flashing the Pixel Experience? I used to use a custom recovery, but as I see there's no such one for 5 III and I didn't find any instruction. Do I just flash the ROM via "fastboot flash system_b pe.img"?
Now I have a stock ROM with all-working Magisk. Do I need a full-wipe also? There's a GSI flashing after Magisk installation in your general instruction, right?
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You're not alone! Just read and follow My Guide over here:
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Here was a Guide. Someone said people don't care about Me or My Work so...
forum.xda-developers.com
Thanks for your answer and the tutorial. I went through step 5, but I still don't understand how to flash Pixel Experience .img file (Android 12 GSI (Pixel Expierence ARM64 A/B VNDKLITE) . Should I extract it, use any flasher etc.?
Graegor said:
Thanks for your answer and the tutorial. I went through step 5, but I still don't understand how to flash Pixel Experience .img file (Android 12 GSI (Pixel Expierence ARM64 A/B VNDKLITE) . Should I extract it, use any flasher etc.?
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You need the Pixelsystem.img File
Place it next to fastboot and execute:
fastboot flash system_a Pixelsystem.img
Followed by
fastboot flash system_b Pixelsystem.img
Wipe Your Device or it doesnt Boot
fastboot -w
Thats it
Sorry, have the same error during step 5 and during flashing PE. I made a mistake somewhere.

Question MIUI keeps killing apps

Hello,
Not sure if it's the right place, but I'm getting depressed with my Xiaomi 12 behaviour. Since last update, MIUI global 13.2.4, the phone keeps killing apps, even if I set those with :
- not battery restriction
- auto startup
I tried a factory reset, I unlocked it, rooted it. It keeps killing apps. It's annoying, because I use Vivid and removed the navigation buttons. I let you imagine how I can be stuck sometimes when Vivid is killed. Yet, Vivid is locked... So MIUI regurlaty kills it, and sometimes, it even loses the accessibility autorisation.
How can I know what's killing it ? Obviousily, I'm not in Eco mode, and this behaviour also occurs in performance mode. Everything worked very fine until last update.
Sirguda said:
Hello,
Not sure if it's the right place, but I'm getting depressed with my Xiaomi 12 behaviour. Since last update, MIUI global 13.2.4, the phone keeps killing apps, even if I set those with :
- not battery restriction
- auto startup
I tried a factory reset, I unlocked it, rooted it. It keeps killing apps. It's annoying, because I use Vivid and removed the navigation buttons. I let you imagine how I can be stuck sometimes when Vivid is killed. Yet, Vivid is locked... So MIUI regurlaty kills it, and sometimes, it even loses the accessibility autorisation.
How can I know what's killing it ? Obviousily, I'm not in Eco mode, and this behaviour also occurs in performance mode. Everything worked very fine until last update.
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Maybe a bug in the rom which is a stable beta.
The ROM is official, it's been deployed in France last week.
Sirguda said:
The ROM is official, it's been deployed in France last week.
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And so, Xiaomi has been deploying beta roms on stable channels for a long time.
Xiaomi 12 EEAStable BetaRecoveryV13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM13.04.8 GB2022-12-01
If it worked before this update, you have the answer.
NOSS8 said:
And so, Xiaomi has been deploying beta roms on stable channels for a long time.
Xiaomi 12 EEAStable BetaRecoveryV13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM13.04.8 GB2022-12-01
If it worked before this update, you have the answer.
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OTA update for an entire country are with beta ? If so, this is a joke. How can I report this to Xiaomi ?
Sirguda said:
OTA update for an entire country are with beta ? If so, this is a joke. How can I report this to Xiaomi ?
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You are not the only one to have had problems following updates, the solution if it worked before, is to flash the previous rom or to use a Xiaomi EU rom.
Sometimes Xiaomi renames a Stable Beta to stable without fixing anything.
NOSS8 said:
You are not the only one to have had problems following updates, the solution if it worked before, is to flash the previous rom or to use a Xiaomi EU rom.
Sometimes Xiaomi renames a Stable Beta to stable without fixing anything.
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Previous ROM is in Android 12. Downgrading won't be a problem ? Keeps root ? EU Roms seem far behind.
Sirguda said:
Previous ROM is in Android 12. Downgrading won't be a problem ? Keeps root ?
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Downgrading requires a clean flash and the root is lost along with your data.
Use this tool:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/flash-tool-guide-use-xiaomi-flash-tool.4262425/
And disable the update.
EDIT:
I use a Xiaomi EU rom on my 12 pro and I have several apps that must remain in the background, works very well.
With a Xiaomi EU rom you will have the certified play store without root and lots of extra options.
This is happening to me also and many other people. Fun times waking up to find that your alarm clock hasn't gone off because it was killed in the background.
There doesn't seem to be a workaround yet. There's several posts on the mi.com forums regarding it:
Xiaomi Community
new.c.mi.com
People there have discussed making a bug report via the feedback app (Settings->"Services & Feedback") might garner some support for Xiaomi to fix the issue... one can only hope.
All I can say is if you're thing of updating to V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM OTA then DONT! Teach me to apply an update without checking on it first.
bunklebeard said:
This is happening to me also and many other people. Fun times waking up to find that your alarm clock hasn't gone off because it was killed in the background.
There doesn't seem to be a workaround yet. There's several posts on the mi.com forums regarding it:
Xiaomi Community
new.c.mi.com
People there have discussed making a bug report via the feedback app (Settings->"Services & Feedback") might garner some support for Xiaomi to fix the issue... one can only hope.
All I can say is if you're thing of updating to V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM OTA then DONT! Teach me to apply an update without checking on it first.
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Go to this site if you need anything, the updates with beta roms on the stable channel do not date from today, many threads on this subject have been created without change since today the problem persists.
Reporting bugs via Services & Feedback hasn't changed anything either.
Note that since the redesign of their site, important threads have disappeared and even some devices.
As a reminder, it is the moderators of this site who report information, well that's just theory because in practice, nothing happens.
If you want answers from Xiaomi, tell them you want to buy a new phone because that's what they're interested in, selling.
I tell you this because at a certain time, I was active on this site, but some of my posts were deleted because I explained how to solve or work around the problem.
Sometimes by checking the hash of a beta rom and the following stable, it was the same.
The solution is to unlock the bootloader and downgrade or install a Xiaomi EU rom.
bunklebeard said:
This is happening to me also and many other people. Fun times waking up to find that your alarm clock hasn't gone off because it was killed in the background.
There doesn't seem to be a workaround yet. There's several posts on the mi.com forums regarding it:
Xiaomi Community
new.c.mi.com
People there have discussed making a bug report via the feedback app (Settings->"Services & Feedback") might garner some support for Xiaomi to fix the issue... one can only hope.
All I can say is if you're thing of updating to V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM OTA then DONT! Teach me to apply an update without checking on it first.
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I'm kind of relieved that's I'm not the only one with this issue. For sure I dont take a xiaomi anymore. I had doubt about MIUI, and gesture unavailable with 3rd party launcher + this killing app bug, makes me regret not have taken a Samsung S22.
" I had doubt about MIUI, and gesture una aimable with 3rd party launcher"
Xiaomi blocks this function with third-party apps (not new).
NOSS8 said:
" I had doubt about MIUI, and gesture una aimable with 3rd party launcher"
Xiaomi blocks this function with third-party apps (not new).
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Not new, but it's a detail you have trouble knowing before buying. With Vivid Gesture, I was plainly satisfied, but this new bug is really frustrating.
Regarding "Xiaomi EU rom", how well tested is it? Do they have an issue tracker and a list of known bugs?
I've rooted and flashed community ROMs in the past only to find out they are poorly tested / have horrible QA and although superficially they work fine other aspects didn't like Bluetooth, Android Auto or certain camera modes etc.
It has been a while though since I last attempted one, maybe things have moved on since then?
Xiaomi has removed so much of the Google framework that even push notifications isn't working. Take note that the Global ROM is based on the CN variant which is known for aggressive background killing of apps.
In Xiaomi's defense, they are "freeing up" up to 800mb of your internal storage by removing most of Google's API but in the expense of all the issues encountered by Global ROM users.
So if anyone is interested, I'm trying to see if disabling com.miui.powerkeeper works round this issue of background apps being killed in V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM .
I followed this tutorial:
How to disable any pre-installed system app bloatware on Android without root
If you hate the bloatware or pre-installed apps on your Android smartphone, here's how to disable them even if Android doesn't normally let you.
www.xda-developers.com
Will report back if I notice any improvement.
Maybe someone more knowledgable might be able to tell me if there are any downside to disabling this package?
I am suffering the exact same problem with my device since the 13.2.4 update, what i nightmare to use the device since then ! As the other users already reported, it s even killing the alarm app which prevents it to ring ! But it also impacts all app notifications, like whatsapp, outlook, etc. After being killed I don't get the new notifications for those.
I can't believe that they are pushing such an update globally, they are gonna lose a lot of customers which such a poor strategy, as this is not just a "little" bug.
I am interested in the Xiaomi.EU rom, looks like they released one 2 days ago with version number 13.2.6, but I have to investigate if we can install that over our official version on an original EU device, and if it requires a full data wipe or not.
kalhimeo said:
I am suffering the exact same problem with my device since the 13.2.4 update, what i nightmare to use the device since then ! As the other users already reported, it s even killing the alarm app which prevents it to ring ! But it also impacts all app notifications, like whatsapp, outlook, etc. After being killed I don't get the new notifications for those.
I can't believe that they are pushing such an update globally, they are gonna lose a lot of customers which such a poor strategy, as this is not just a "little" bug.
I am interested in the Xiaomi.EU rom, looks like they released one 2 days ago with version number 13.2.6, but I have to investigate if we can install that over our official version on an original EU device, and if it requires a full data wipe or not.
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Welcome to XIAOMI.
You can check below the version of the rom proposed for the update, before performing it.
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/archive/miui/cupid/
EDIT:
You can either update the rom with the update.bat file included in the Fastboot.zip folder but since it is an A13 version, it is preferable to format the data with the first install.bat file .
Obviously the bootloader must be unlocked.
Also remove the security from the lock screen and restart the system.
Hello. I have exactly the same problem. I just bought the phone, after a week I got that update and it made me completely regret that I bought it. Is there any "clean" way to return to the version of MIUI I bought the phone with?
Would a reset return me to the old version? Since i got almost nothing important in the phone, it wouldnt be a big deal.
zazajin said:
Hello. I have exactly the same problem. I just bought the phone, after a week I got that update and it made me completely regret that I bought it. Is there any "clean" way to return to the version of MIUI I bought the phone with?
Would a reset return me to the old version? Since i got almost nothing important in the phone, it wouldnt be a big deal.
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Bootloader must be Unlocked.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/miui-keeps-killing-apps.4529641/post-87852189

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