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[Doogee Shoot 1 ] App Android "Chromes". what's it? [TRIADA Malware]

Dear friends,
i am struggling with a strange APP named "Chromes". It seems to be undocumented (i googled a lot).
The only thing i know is that IT INSTALLS ALONE without any visibile message. After a Factory reset i found it (AGAIN) in the phone.
I couldn't SEEK what / when / Who installs it in my phone.
It gains telephone and archive rights without any ask to me.
I also know that my doogee phone suffers of a vulnerability (never closed) by DOOGEE and i don't know if it'd be related with it.
No clue.
Does anyone have had the same experience? Does anyone have EVER seen it?
Let me know please.
Best Regards.
EDIT: ****warning: I remember to everyone that ROOTING/HACKING/INSTALLING a different ROM in your phone may void the warranty AND can potentially BRICK your phone . Do it ONLY IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING . I warned you.*****
edit 13/11/2017 *LIST OF REPORTED DEVICE AFFECTED WITH CHROMES (Malware) app *:
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Doogee Shoot 1
Gretel A9
UHANS A101
NOMU S10
Leagoo M8
leagoo M8 pro
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Report if you have it. Thank you.

i just found it on my phone too and started googling it.. and yours seem to be the only instance ive found so far.. i dont know what it does or where it comes from.. i can close it from the task manager but itll start itself again 3 processes that itself have about 2-3 services.. mostly ChromesService DaemonService and ChromesService2 the main proces seems to be signed from com.appclone.lyhj the second one doesnt have the daemonService and is signed from com.android.qnsettings and the third one had com.yunshi.market listed. again i dont know there they come from or whats their purpose.. and if they have anything to do with the ad popups i get since a few days now that dont seem to be app related since its the same popups for most apps .. apps that dont have those popups natively like whatsapp or facebook. i have since uninstalled pretty much anything and tried some antivirus but i guess its gonna be rooted and gets a custom rom. it is also a china cell called nomu s20 . after googling a bit it seems there are a lot security problems with my device.
edit: ive found something on this link i cant post because i am not a trusted user yet
also after running kaspersky antivirus it did indeed find something (as opposed to the comodo antivirus that kept silent)
it found Trojan.androidOS.Boogr.gsh as the chromesBase.apk and another one i just deleted without writing the name. it seems though this might be related to the Triada-Virus/trojan .. soo.. yeah it might be a good idea to save your stuff and not only try with a factory reset but completely reinstall the whole rom.
edit2: just deinstalling them hasnt solved anything .. the problem sits way deeper meaning it is definitely related to the triada virus. it just reinstalls the software again without anything showing.
edit3: found it.. it is indeed the triada virus on my phone ..

I have been dealing with that damned "Chromes" app for two or three weeks now (BTW, they appear two of them with the same icon and logo.)
MalwareBytes detects it as malware (Avast sometimes does, sometimes does'nt)
I have trie , for sure , uninstalling (completely unuseful) stopping all the apps I can (seems to have an effect in the reinstalling time ), and also keeping them installed but removing the Phone, Storage and SMS permissions, which, surprisingly, remain removed (until you uninstall the app)
I dealed in the past with the virus app on the Shoot 1 firmware, which turnaround solution (disabling the fake app) worked OK for me. But recently there have not been any fw update, so this time is not the firmware the responsible.
Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated.
¡Cheers!

Hi guys!
I'm having the same problem as you two. I can't believe that Doogee has screwed up on this again... (I also have the shoot 1 [nice screen ]) I'm surprised that, as you said, I've not found anything on the internet about this*. In addition, the application consumes a large amount of mobile data!
I hope there is an update soon, and that the problem is solved
Thank you all for your comments! Greetings from Spain!!
*Well, here they have the same problem
https ://android.stackexchange.com/questions/185520/how-to-get-rid-of-a-malware-app-chromes

Don't wait too much from Doogee. In fact don't wait nothing at all. They didn't solved yet the firmware virus that came with the first OTA update. We're alone...

And your GPS signal how is it going? In my case it does not get fixed to any satellite. Has someone managed to root it successfully? The truth is that I do not understand much about this, that's why I'm a bit afraid to do it.
I found this in a spanish forum, look at the last post (#19). (I think you have to translate it )
http: //ww w.htcmania. com/showthread.php?t=1291106
Summing up a bit, he says that Doogee sells mobiles with malware in the system. The fact is that they do it conscientiously. And then put a "solution", which is to install a firewall, so that you can control the internet connection of the applications.
Thanks again!

Some updates...
let me give you some updates :
1) the Shoot 1 phone is not easy to root with standard tools (kingroot & others: i tried a lot of them);
1) i successfully installed twrp with the FLASHTOOL and a specific recovery image TWRP + SU (if needed i can help about it);
2) I backupped everything (included malware of course) just to be sure i could go back in case of brick;
*** 3) I downloaded and installed the FANTASTIC lineage OS without any STUPID bloatware. ***
My phone is secure and fast NOW.
i warmly RECOMMEND all of you to root and update to lineage OS 7.1.2 (ver 14). Thankx to the lineage team! **they deserve a donation!!****
* about Shoot1 GPS *
i still didn't test it with the new LINEAGE and i will update you
Before i discovered the malware inside the GPS was not fixing correctly and in general not working like my previous LG or HTC
I was using an external BLUETOOTH antenna by using a middleware driver named Bluetooth GPS. Once you configured the driveer it works like a charm with tomtom and all GPS software ( i tested a lot). The external GPS solution lets the phone cold and free to charge during long gps travel session.
I will test anyway with the internal GPS again with the new LINEAGE ROM.
For any test or info write here and send me a PV message.
UPDATE: the lineage team is releasing the version 15 (development) with OREO. Anyway i will not install it soon. I am SOOOO SOLID now!

jmam said:
Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated.
¡Cheers!
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Unfortunately you can't get rid of it. No one knows if there is another fake app or background service that loads it again. It seems to appear (after a factory reset) some days later (i.e. just the time to download from whoknowswhere).
The fact is that I CAN'T TRUST ANYMORE the Doogee and the entire ROM so i warmly suggest you to ROOT (via TWRP + SU) , backup all, and install a LINEAGE fresh n° 14 release for shoot 1.
i did it and it worked like a charm.

Chromes
I have phone that is not rooted or changed firmware. Antivirus said that i have chomes and facebook apps that are not safe, but i do not have facebook installed. I tried factory reseting the phone twice, but it still comes back....

Have got the same "Chromes" problem on Gretel A9 mobile. Not rooted, only used Google Playstore for few apps. So frustrated and so little information on how to solve it for a non techie like me. Tried to contact Gretel who never reply. Still under an AliExpress warranty but not sure if malware stuff is covered. Needrom have the official stock rom for the A9. Do I have to root the phone to reinstall a clean stock rom? Can anyone point me to instructions on how to replace the stock rom? Thanks for any help.

I am really sorry to say that. The SUPPORT from some of these Chinese Supplier is really poor. I can't help you with your GRETEL . Please search on this XDA forum is anyone can do .
Root it and install a reliable distro. Be careful: when you root your phone you loose your WARRANTY and (sometime) some functions of your phone is not available or not available at 100%.
Custom ROMs should be considered ALWAYS as "bleeding" and "in development".
As i said i will never buy anymore low cost China phones DUE to this lack of support and this (unbelievable) disattention to release malwared firmware.

Deki-bg said:
I have phone that is not rooted or changed firmware. Antivirus said that i have chomes and facebook apps that are not safe, but i do not have facebook installed. I tried factory reseting the phone twice, but it still comes back....
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I struggled a lot to remove it with normal antivirus and antimalware.
It seems to BE NOT POSSIBLE without a rooted phone.
In my phone there were 2 problems:
1) the malware CHROMES
2) the injected system library (dunno what it does).
So , once i removed the CHROMES %$£"%$£% app....i could not know if it was related (or somehow connected) with the malware injected system library. So i couldn't trust anymore that factory o.s. and i replaced it with LINEAGE (atm something not working 100% like GPS) but at least it's clean and works.
I hope LINEAGE could support more chinaphones to get rid of the buggy malwared firmware from Doogee, Gretel and others Chinamakers

UHANS A101 affected as well!
CHROMES and
fake FACEBOOK app

garibald75 said:
I am really sorry to say that. The SUPPORT from some of these Chinese Supplier is really poor. I can't help you with your GRETEL . Please search on this XDA forum is anyone can do .
Root it and install a reliable distro. Be careful: when you root your phone you loose your WARRANTY and (sometime) some functions of your phone is not available or not available at 100%.
Custom ROMs should be considered ALWAYS as "bleeding" and "in development".
As i said i will never buy anymore low cost China phones DUE to this lack of support and this (unbelievable) disattention to release malwared firmware.
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Thanks for the reply.
Do warranties usually cover an infected Rom (I'd need to send it to a Poland service centre)
Is it hard to flash a new clean stock rom over an infected stock rom?

owlsman said:
Thanks for the reply.
Do warranties usually cover an infected Rom (I'd need to send it to a Poland service centre)
Is it hard to flash a new clean stock rom over an infected stock rom?
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If you can't ROOT it, try to open RMA or open a ticket, try (at least). I hope we can MOUNT CASE and create a bit of hype around this CRAZY THINGS .
In my case it doesn worth. The DOOGEE has a really poor website and we yellew there a lot about this malware.
No way to return. IT doesn't worth.
However tell them and try to have it swapped.

Hey guys, I just got the apk. If a dev can make it "peaceful", I will really appreciate that. Just rename the chromes(blablabla).txt to chromes(blablabla).apk

jimmy1235 said:
Hey guys, I just got the apk. If a dev can make it "peaceful", I will really appreciate that. Just rename the chromes(blablabla).txt to chromes(blablabla).apk
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WARNING for all the users: THIS APK IS FOR DEVELOPERS. This apk CONTAINS a malware. it's *ONLY* FOR RESEARCH purposes. so Don't try to install it!!

the really interesting THING would be to know if it RECALLS some system service or other RESIDENT modules to complete the cleaning and to allow US to use the original firmware again.
Let's see if anyone can help us.

Well... This is getting REALLY deeply...
https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/triada-trojan/11481/

i tested KAV and other antivirus and malware removal tools.
KAV was not able to remove and to detect it.
the 1st (maybe not the only one) that warned me has been DR WEB ANTIVIRUS and it (also) couldn't remove it without rooting.
It's impossibile, though, to know WHAT / WHICH process is linked in memory or injected in the original ROM since the Chinese CRAPPYPHONES are full of bloatware and "weirdware" .
The trust is ZERO for them ATM.

Advantages of EU/Global over Chinese ROM

tldr:
What are the advantages of installing the EU ROM over just keeping the Chinese ROM and customizing it? Are there any functions that stop working and/or change for the worse?
Hi everyone. Hopefully this post will be a helpful resource if someone else wonders this same question.
For a while I had my eye on the Mi Mix 3 and after reading all the reviews I just had to get it. I wanted one with 8 gigs of ram and 256 gigs of memory so I got the Chinese variant. After reading post after post on how to change the ROM to EU or Global I finally asked why? I mean, I got the phone and promptly loaded the Google Play Store and downloaded a bunch of apps. I changed the launcher to "Poco Launcer" from the GP Store since it's basically the same as MIUI but with an app drawer, so I'm cool with that. That beings said...
What are the advantages and drawbacks of installing the EU ROM (the one I kinda decided on between the two alternates)? The only two things that bother me about the Chinese ROM are
1) The default assistant is in Chinese and you can't change the AI button to open a different one, even though you can still install the others and use them by opening the app.
2) Some of the Apps in the "App vault" (Their little slide right home screen) and the tools when you open the slider are Chinese apps that I have no interest in using, but you can't change them. My solution to this was to turn off the app vault and to make the slider do nothing, which is okay I guess.
So basically, what would I gain by switching ROMs, and what pitfalls exist in those alternate ROMs which might make a person think twice about changing?

Why run MIUI at all?

Don't waste anymore time and just flash it already. it's better and I'm not wasting my time explaining why.
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397928049

invisiblewave said:
Why run MIUI at all?
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Because MIUI works. In your signature the top one is for the "Pixel Experience" and it's 90 pages of people complaining about features that don't work or are partially broken. The culmination is on the last page where it's revealed that it's not under development anymore followed by people complaining about functions that STILL DON'T WORK.
954wrecker said:
Don't waste anymore time and just flash it already. it's better and I'm not wasting my time explaining why.
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I don't mean to waste anyones time, and especially not my own. All I need to know is, will any of the features of my phone be problematic after I flash?
Also, does that link you provided require this "twrp" thing I've read about or is it fastboot? Is it the EU version?

Cheesaw said:
Because MIUI works. In your signature the top one is for the "Pixel Experience" and it's 90 pages of people complaining about features that don't work or are partially broken. The culmination is on the last page where it's revealed that it's not under development anymore followed by people complaining about functions that STILL DON'T WORK.
I don't mean to waste anyones time, and especially not my own. All I need to know is, will any of the features of my phone be problematic after I flash?
Also, does that link you provided require this "twrp" thing I've read about or is it fastboot? Is it the EU version?
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It will work fine, it's just a tweaked version of Chinese Dev stock rom with less bloat. Their website explains the features over global
You need twrp to install it

Alright, let's do this!

Cheesaw said:
tldr:
What are the advantages of installing the EU ROM over just keeping the Chinese ROM and customizing it? Are there any functions that stop working and/or change for the worse?
Hi everyone. Hopefully this post will be a helpful resource if someone else wonders this same question.
For a while I had my eye on the Mi Mix 3 and after reading all the reviews I just had to get it. I wanted one with 8 gigs of ram and 256 gigs of memory so I got the Chinese variant. After reading post after post on how to change the ROM to EU or Global I finally asked why? I mean, I got the phone and promptly loaded the Google Play Store and downloaded a bunch of apps. I changed the launcher to "Poco Launcer" from the GP Store since it's basically the same as MIUI but with an app drawer, so I'm cool with that. That beings said...
What are the advantages and drawbacks of installing the EU ROM (the one I kinda decided on between the two alternates)? The only two things that bother me about the Chinese ROM are
1) The default assistant is in Chinese and you can't change the AI button to open a different one, even though you can still install the others and use them by opening the app.
2) Some of the Apps in the "App vault" (Their little slide right home screen) and the tools when you open the slider are Chinese apps that I have no interest in using, but you can't change them. My solution to this was to turn off the app vault and to make the slider do nothing, which is okay I guess.
So basically, what would I gain by switching ROMs, and what pitfalls exist in those alternate ROMs which might make a person think twice about changing?
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Actually, #1 is no longer valid. The ai button can be remapped in the chinese ROM if you are ROOTED because I have done it, so, if you are ROOTED, scoot on over to:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79251626&postcount=47
and get that ai button remapped.

Cheesaw said:
Because MIUI works. In your signature the top one is for the "Pixel Experience" and it's 90 pages of people complaining about features that don't work or are partially broken. The culmination is on the last page where it's revealed that it's not under development anymore followed by people complaining about functions that STILL DON'T WORK.
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Everything works on the Chinese devices, other than being able to link an action to the slider. Most of the problems are to do with initial installation, but this is the way every rom thread ends up, people only post when they have problems.

Cheesaw said:
tldr:
1) The default assistant is in Chinese
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79251626&postcount=47
Did the American sweetheart assistant come up for you, now? or is she still talking chinese to you?
Cool??

Rooting
Do i need to root my Mi Mix 3 (cn version) in order to flash to a global rom version??
Currently runningon MIUI 10.2 Stable 10.2.2.0 (PEECNXM)

TheArchangel123 said:
Do i need to root my Mi Mix 3 (cn version) in order to flash to a global rom version??
Currently runningon MIUI 10.2 Stable 10.2.2.0 (PEECNXM)
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No, you just need to install twrp and install the global zip. Then format data and reboot

MIUI Global 10.3.3 RAM Management?

I'm not going to rant a lot here, but it's getting very annoying to the point I think I need to go here in the forum for a solution.
I'm using a 32/3GB Global version, on MIUI 10.3.3 Global with Android 9.
My phone's RAM management is utter dud it feels like a 500MB RAM phone. When I open an app, say a game, and then go home and open another app, goodbye game. Or Chrome and Music. Music plays in the background for some time but then just stops. Feels like it's thinking of Music as an unnecessary app and decided to close it. These issues did not happen with my last update before this.
My RAM usage usually hovers at 1.7/3GB.
TL;DR, Xiaomi probably trying to implement a RAM management system that is far too effective it's not efficient. Basically bye-bye multitasking. Is there anything I could do to change this?

Wonder why no one replied? Am I the only one with this problem?

jalovitrue said:
I'm not going to rant a lot here, but it's getting very annoying to the point I think I need to go here in the forum for a solution.
I'm using a 32/3GB Global version, on MIUI 10.3.3 Global with Android 9.
My phone's RAM management is utter dud it feels like a 500MB RAM phone. When I open an app, say a game, and then go home and open another app, goodbye game. Or Chrome and Music. Music plays in the background for some time but then just stops. Feels like it's thinking of Music as an unnecessary app and decided to close it. These issues did not happen with my last update before this.
My RAM usage usually hovers at 1.7/3GB.
TL;DR, Xiaomi probably trying to implement a RAM management system that is far too effective it's not efficient. Basically bye-bye multitasking. Is there anything I could do to change this?
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Same problem here 3/32 model (i am from Argentina) same rom global 10.3.3 and after update only manage 2-3 apps and close background. Any idea?
Xiaomi forum, more people same bug:
in . c . mi . com/thread-1943237-1-0.html

nix.sasl said:
Same problem here 3/32 model (i am from Argentina) same rom global 10.3.3 and after update only manage 2-3 apps and close background. Any idea?
Xiaomi forum, more people same bug:
in . c . mi . com/thread-1943237-1-0.html
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I think the management of RAM on the stock is very bad, in fact Xiaomi had to adapt it for the S2 as it has a 32 bit rom on a 64 bit Soc. I advise you to unlock the bootloader, install the Twrp and flashi the Lineage 16, and that's better.

Yeah, this is an known bug. I suggest you unlock bootloader and install the latest MIUI by Xiaomi.eu (currently, we are in 10.3.4), cause this problem was solved in there.

richardqcarvalho said:
Yeah, this is an known bug. I suggest you unlock bootloader and install the latest MIUI by Xiaomi.eu (currently, we are in 10.3.4), cause this problem was solved in there.
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Xiaomi eu ROM works fine in 3/32 ? Because i read some people with bugs in this version, no in 4/64.
The 10.3.4 was removed after hours from download site of ota Xiaomi (because lot of bug) and actually say that is beta when i try to install it manually.
So the only way is go to eu ROM. Really, lot of bug global stock version to version.

Well, today i updated to 10.3.5 global (official web site) and look solved.
Attached screenshot of a lot of apps opens and no closed, and battery intelligent of Google is enabled.
Before update, whiteout any app in task list 1.5 free, now 1.6 or 1.7 sometimes.
Additional changelog:
Camera, faster shot and video 1080 60fps
Mode digital bienestar mode.
Dark mode.
Boot faster and unlock first time faster.
https://imgur.com/a/dTSFyvV

nix.sasl said:
Well, today i updated to 10.3.5 global (official web site) and look solved.
Attached screenshot of a lot of apps opens and no closed, and battery intelligent of Google is enabled.
Before update, whiteout any app in task list 1.5 free, now 1.6 or 1.7 sometimes.
Additional changelog:
Camera, faster shot and video 1080 60fps
Mode digital bienestar mode.
Dark mode.
Boot faster and unlock first time faster.
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I've been having the same problem. After I updated to Global Stable MIUI 10.3.3.0 (PEFMIXM) I started having these issues where background apps just won't stay running. Tabs on Chrome keep reloading if I switch between them.
Can you confirm if the above solution by @nix.sasl works? @jalovitrue

ChatMuerto said:
I've been having the same problem. After I updated to Global Stable MIUI 10.3.3.0 (PEFMIXM) I started having these issues where background apps just won't stay running. Tabs on Chrome keep reloading if I switch between them.
Can you confirm if the above solution by @nix.sasl works? @jalovitrue
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Download the 10.3.5.0 PEFMIXM from miui for redmi s2 global stable
bigota. d. miui . com/V10.3.5.0.PEFMIXM/miui_HMS2Global_V10.3.5.0.PEFMIXM_4dec7b969d_9.0.zip
imgur. com/a/0wPMsSb

Thanks @nix.sasl. I too can confirm that updating from 10.3.3.0 (PEFMIXM) to 10.3.5.0 (PEFMIXM) has fixed this issue. Finally this website was useful for once.

ChatMuerto said:
Thanks @nix.sasl. I too can confirm that updating from 10.3.3.0 (PEFMIXM) to 10.3.5.0 (PEFMIXM) has fixed this issue. Finally this website was useful for once.
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A tip more, if you have the launcher setting in 4x5 do notting but if you have in 5x5, back to 4x5 and look that the device allow more apps in background.

jalovitrue said:
I'm not going to rant a lot here, but it's getting very annoying to the point I think I need to go here in the forum for a solution.
I'm using a 32/3GB Global version, on MIUI 10.3.3 Global with Android 9.
My phone's RAM management is utter dud it feels like a 500MB RAM phone. When I open an app, say a game, and then go home and open another app, goodbye game. Or Chrome and Music. Music plays in the background for some time but then just stops. Feels like it's thinking of Music as an unnecessary app and decided to close it. These issues did not happen with my last update before this.
My RAM usage usually hovers at 1.7/3GB.
TL;DR, Xiaomi probably trying to implement a RAM management system that is far too effective it's not efficient. Basically bye-bye multitasking. Is there anything I could do to change this?
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I've got bad experience with MIUI on ram management, so I switch to custom rom

phantomhell said:
I've got bad experience with MIUI on ram management, so I switch to custom rom
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Which ROM are using? Bugs?

Hi, have you solved the problem? I suffer the same bugs in miui 11.
in miui 10 the phone worked perfectly for me.
I'm sorry for bad English.

Question Best custom rom for stability?

Hello there, i recently unlocked my bootloader and i'm ready leave MIUI for good. Therefore i was wondering which custom rom is the most useful for my personal use.
I rarely play games and the ones i play are light-weight and not demanding games. I usually browse social media and watch movies.
I don't need many extra features, stability is the most important thing for me.
So i'm looking for a ROM that's close to stock android with a few nice features, that's stable and hopefully battery-efficient.
Thanks in advance.

If You dont play games and want a stabile room go for Arrow OS ,If you want customization go for dot Os ,Cr droid.

I have the same user profile as you: looking for a stable ROM, with OTA updates.
So far as I've read the internet out there, most people go for Xiaomi.eu (for MIUI like experience) or ArrowOS (for a more pure Android experience).
But, of course, there's plenty of other options.
I'm more willing to go for Xiaomi.eu, but I would like to hear other users' experiences too.

marcelorodrigo said:
我和你有相同的用户资料：寻找一个稳定的 ROM，有 OTA 更新。
就我在互联网上的阅读而言，大多数人会选择小米.eu（为了类似 MIUI 的体验）或 ArrowOS（为了更纯粹的 Android 体验）。
但是，当然，还有很多其他选择。
我更愿意去小米.eu，但我也想听听其他用户的体验。
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Crdroid is the best choice.

yajdintaydemir said:
Hello there, i recently unlocked my bootloader and i'm ready leave MIUI for good. Therefore i was wondering which custom rom is the most useful for my personal use.
I rarely play games and the ones i play are light-weight and not demanding games. I usually browse social media and watch movies.
I don't need many extra features, stability is the most important thing for me.
So i'm looking for a ROM that's close to stock android with a few nice features, that's stable and hopefully battery-efficient.
Thanks in advance.
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ArrowOS version 07-09-2021 in the best one regarding smoothness and stabilty, however latest builds (from 07-23-2021 included) aren't good, scaling governor was changed for the worst, and since they switch from stock to their own vendor it have some relevant bugs.
tl:dr: ArrowOS 07-09-2021 build, both official or vanilla. Also LineageOS once it will become official can be a good choice.

pcjabuy said:
Crdroid is the best choice.
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Could you elaborate a bit and share your experience?

Cr Droid has some bugs when I tested , arrow is good but not the best , I recomand Dot OS 5.1.1 it's more stabile , now I'm on Pixel Extended and is working grateful .

marcelorodrigo said:
I have the same user profile as you: looking for a stable ROM, with OTA updates.
So far as I've read the internet out there, most people go for Xiaomi.eu (for MIUI like experience) or ArrowOS (for a more pure Android experience).
But, of course, there's plenty of other options.
I'm more willing to go for Xiaomi.eu, but I would like to hear other users' experiences too.
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My phone comes with Xiaomi EU , and is not grate ,you can go if you want but is the same ****t experience from MIUI ,go for Dot or arrow because MIUI EU is not good .
Edit: is very heavy 5.2GB and not good for games ,and has a very resorce consuming UI .

ArrowOS get worse with every OTAs so no, I won't recommend ArrowOS for now.
LineageOS as listed in its thread has its bug and with only one OTA so far, I can't judge if is good long run yet but with my past experience using it on other phones, it has been great. Still, those are by different maintainers so only time can tell.

From my experience, the best one in terms of stability is CrDroid, i can't find significant bugs on it.

I have 0 issues with ArrowOS no idea what are you people talking about. If about the CPU governor scaling it's intended and i dont see any issue with it, battery life is about the same and it's more fluid. Furthermore it's only matter of time and every custom ROM will be based on OSS vendor so better get used to it.
Can you explain how exactly it gets worse with every OTA?

As long as ROMs keeps get updates, there's always chance getting bugs or issues when update, so there's no "Best custom rom for stability".
Don't update if the ROM is working well makes the ROM stable.
The most stable ROM is the ROM that don't get updates. Everything is always the same. Bug is the same, issue is the same, security vulnerabilities are still there. So stable .

k3lcior said:
I have 0 issues with ArrowOS no idea what are you people talking about. If about the CPU governor scaling it's intended and i dont see any issue with it, battery life is about the same and it's more fluid. Furthermore it's only matter of time and every custom ROM will be based on OSS vendor so better get used to it.
Can you explain how exactly it gets worse with every OTA?
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Personally, I am a power user and the first problem I encountered is how difficult to install Viper4AndriodFX on ArrowOS and only to learn that the "sound feature" is in conflict with it. Most roms don't have such "feature" and when I report such feature is in conflict with other sounds apps, they simply reply "not my problem". Imagine microsoft telling you drivers not working on windows because of a "feature" isn't their problem.
Now, moving on to my first OTA, not the scaling update but the one before that. The first problem I notice is it broke one of my google app, I had to reinstall and reboot 3 times to get it working again. I also do root my phone, if is not obvious enough from the previous paragraph. While the ota did reinstall the magisk but that's that. My bank apps and whatever apps stop working (detecting root) even though it was fine before OTA. Fortunately, google app start updating plenty of apps (not the banks ones), I don't know which apps are the main culprit but it start working again. Now that's a problem, do I have to reinstall all the apps every time I do OTA?
Now, moving on to the previous OTA, the scaling update one. You say is intended but with my experience so far, I call that bs, more like when they syncing with kernel source, they replace the value from that kernel source. Furthermore, "governor" exist for a reason and if you gonna interfere with the job of "governor", why have "governor" in the first place?
Now, looking at the bug reports in ArrowOS page, other device is experiencing "NFC" issues. Now that a big one, I don't know about your country but my country has been utilizing contactless payment for years. While it isn't this device that is bugged but it does worry me.
If you do not have any issues, doesn't mean others don't. It could be just that you don't use your phone extensively like others or you not a power user. Last but not least, you are not the only user and I do appreciate if you don't ridicule others' users feedbacks just because you don't have issue yourself. This statement also apply to @pl1992aw.

All your "issues" (except CPU governor which is not issue or a bug) you have mentioned are related to third party mods (Viper4Android and Magisk specifically).
Also FYI - NFC and Gpay works without Magisk, i use it daily with 5 different banking apps (Nest, Santander, Paypal, Revolut and Gpay). So maybe next time before you blame the ROM try using it without mods?
Also you just discovered why majority of devs ignore bug reports coming from users which are using mods, including ArrowOS. https://blog.arrowos.net/how-to-report-a-bug/
WHAT NOT to report!​
Bugs which are present in unofficial builds or anything that is nit downloaded from our official download server.
Asking about device support, unlocking bootloader, getting TWRP installed and similar queries are not encouraged.
Bugs on a device which has root priveleges from SuperSU, Magisk, Magisk modules or any other rooting methods that exists etc.
Issues which suggest feature requests.
Issues which suggest supporting a new device which we do not own.
Bugs which arise after replacing default apps.
Bugs in devices which occur in third party apps.
Bugs in devices we do not support anymore.
Bugs in ArrowOS experimental builds.
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Lu5ck said:
Last but not least, you are not the only user and I do appreciate if you don't ridicule others' users feedbacks just because you don't have issue yourself. This statement also apply to @pl1992aw.
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Ha ha ha I'm tagged.
I'm not sure which part you thought ridicules other users' feedbacks.
Maybe this part?
The most stable ROM is the ROM that don't get updates. Everything is always the same. Bug is the same, issue is the same, security vulnerabilities are still there. So stable .
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This part is mainly talking about updates of anything in general.
Example: Windows 7.
Windows 7 don't get updates anymore. Everything is always the same. Bug is the same, issue is the same, security vulnerabilities are still there. So stable.
When one updates from Windows 7 to Windows 10, there's many compatibility issues and many complaint from users.
So is Windows 7 not stable? It's still stable as it is and nothing changed.
So is Windows 10 not stable? It's still stable as Microsoft keeps fixing it and update it, but never Best stable, never exist.
Is it forced to update Windows 10 from Windows 7? Yeah maybe when it just came out, but not now. You can choose not to update. Some banking ATM is even still using Windows XP because of compatibility issues, but they also take the risk of vulnerabilities and bugs.
Is Windows the Best OS on the market? Well, maybe, at least from the coverage; maybe not, there's still whole bunch of complaint every time there's update.
What's the whole point? The whole point is that this kind of topic is dynamic.
When there's update with issues, "This ROM is bad".
When there's update that fix all the pre-existing issues, "This ROM is good".
When the new update brings other issues alongside with patch of pre-existing issues, "This ROM is bad".
Question - This ROM is good or bad?
Answer - Subjective and dynamic.
Be prepared with updates. This also applies to MIUI. How's the opinion when people update from MIUI 12.0 to MIUI 12.5? Why do you quit using MIUI?
I do appreciate if you respect one another users' positive feedbacks just because you don't have positive feedbacks.

k3lcior said:
All your "issues" (except CPU governor which is not issue or a bug) you have mentioned are related to third party mods (Viper4Android and Magisk specifically).
Also FYI - NFC and Gpay works without Magisk, i use it daily with 5 different banking apps (Nest, Santander, Paypal, Revolut and Gpay). So maybe next time before you blame the ROM try using it without mods?
Also you just discovered why majority of devs ignore bug reports coming from users which are using mods, including ArrowOS. https://blog.arrowos.net/how-to-report-a-bug/
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Like I have said, you are not a power user or use it extensively like others, your experience is different to others. So, is the power users experience less than that of your experience?
Can you not ridicule other users' experience? Or is your experience more important than others?
Lastly, you seem to selectively read some of things as well.
pl1992aw said:
Ha ha ha I'm tagged.
I'm not sure which part you thought ridicules other users' feedbacks.
Maybe this part?
This part is mainly talking about updates of anything in general.
Example: Windows 7.
Windows 7 don't get updates anymore. Everything is always the same. Bug is the same, issue is the same, security vulnerabilities are still there. So stable.
When one updates from Windows 7 to Windows 10, there's many compatibility issues and many complaint from users.
So is Windows 7 not stable? It's still stable as it is and nothing changed.
So is Windows 10 not stable? It's still stable as Microsoft keeps fixing it and update it, but never Best stable, never exist.
Is it forced to update Windows 10 from Windows 7? Yeah maybe when it just came out, but not now. You can choose not to update. Some banking ATM is even still using Windows XP because of compatibility issues, but they also take the risk of vulnerabilities and bugs.
Is Windows the Best OS on the market? Well, maybe, at least from the coverage; maybe not, there's still whole bunch of complaint every time there's update.
What's the whole point? The whole point is that this kind of topic is dynamic.
When there's update with issues, "This ROM is bad".
When there's update that fix all the pre-existing issues, "This ROM is good".
When the new update brings other issues alongside with patch of pre-existing issues, "This ROM is bad".
Question - This ROM is good or bad?
Answer - Subjective and dynamic.
Be prepared with updates. This also applies to MIUI. How's the opinion when people update from MIUI 12.0 to MIUI 12.5? Why do you quit using MIUI?
I do appreciate if you take up one another users' positive feedbacks just because you don't have positive feedbacks.
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You are mocking others, if that isn't clear enough for you.

Lu5ck said:
You are mocking others, if that isn't clear enough for you.
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Yeah not clear for me. I'm not that smart as you are.
How?

pl1992aw said:
Yeah not clear for me. I'm not that smart as you are.
How?
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Well, it may or may not be your intention. For example
You could write
Yeah not clear for me. How?
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But you chose to include another line
I'm not that smart as you are
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You are already passively doing so.

I've been using Havos OS on previous xiaomi redmi 5 plus... and I think its the best out there... (big fan).... buuuut....I always end up finding some minor bug in ASOP/vanilla based custom roms.... and Havoc isn't official yet for the x3 pro.. so I've install Xiaomi.eu rom last week and I guess that the best rom you can get for POCO x3 pro right now...it's basically same as stock miui rom except you dont get all the anoying ads..and will get all the goodies from china based xiaomi rom

marcelorodrigo said:
I'm more willing to go for Xiaomi.eu, but I would like to hear other users' experiences too.
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can't go wrong with it.... I've been using it for 5 days now.. you wouldn't even notice its custom rom until you check "My device" in settings...
-it comes with MIUI dialer which enables call recording... (which was kinda important for me)
-no ads.... all bloatware removed...
-some stock 'MI apps" (files/email/music/video app) can be disabled (I strongly suggest not to root uninstall them if you don't want issues with future updates)
-minimal preloaded google apps (can be installed from store if needed)
-can be updated easily with a dirty flash from what I read from the website
-also chances of having bugs are minimal since it's basically the same rom as stock miui rom
NOTE: first boot takes a while after flash...be patient....if its more than 15minutes...then its a bootloop. Mine took like 7minutes for initial boot; it will be laggy during the first hour of use as its processing stuff in background....but after that performance should be back to normal
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Question What is the benefits of Rooting these days?

I used to do it to flash firmwares but that does not seem to be prevalent any more, so why do I need to root?

I know this is a developer/modding site but I have to agree with the OP.
I come here for the general forum information that is "usually" more technical for obvious reasons. But to risk a very expensive tool for unlocking and modding....the risks far outweigh the benefits...IMO...YMMV

App & system theming (with Substratum + Swift Black, Repainter for pure system AMOLED black & Project Themer for different notification styles, lockscreen clock etc.). System-wide equaliser (currently with JamesDSP but will await VIper4Android working on A13 hopefully), system-wide ad-blocking. Revanced Youtube for background play etc.
Plus with AOSP Mods via Magisk it adds tons on features like customisable quick toggle column/row quantities + label text size, clock position, removing carrier label from status bar, long press power button screen off for torch and so much more! Plus not to mention custom rom support which whilst sometimes buggy, come with a wealth of benefits. I like to stick to stock these days with AOSP Mods & Magisk, as that module has many features and saves having any custom rom bugs (e.g. on Pixel 6 Pro, a custom rom would lose Magic Eraser whereas having a modded stock, retained it)/
I get the risks, but we do plenty of research and tread carefully and all is generally ok!
Got my Pixel 7 Pro just today and bootloader unlocked after the first OTA came through. It's now rooted and without passing safetynet currently, all cards successfully added to my Google Wallet.
Running like a dream

I used to root every one of my previous phones, but I've not done so on my Noted 10 Plus as I find Samsung Pay too useful. And rooting destroys it forever. Not sure if Google Pay still works when rooted, that may nudge me to do it.
I have no plans to root my 7 Pro when it arrives. But that may change.

Naughty boy client for Pokemon GO and system-wide AdBlock

For me the main thing is working app backup, since the Google solution is absolutely unreasonable (I have several non-play-store apps that I have had on every smartphone I've owned, and data generally isn't saved with Google anyway) But also tons of little things like being able to set a limit on battery charge level, full (to the extent still possible) filesystem access, a floating CPU monitor I like, Greenify, Island, Tasker stuff, etc.

System wide as blocking since 2012. No other phone does it better and easier.

How about Banking? I ditched rooting since all Banking apps denied to work. Workaround didn't work anymore.

Custom kernels that save on battery
Better Internet Tiles
ACC (Advanced Charging Controller) and AccA (Advanced Charging Controller App)
@siavash79's thread [MOD][Xposed+Magisk][Pre-Release] AOSP Mods - System modifications for AOSP-based Android 12+. This is a big one for me, personally.
Classic Power Menu
Swift Backup

hey_malik said:
How about Banking? I ditched rooting since all Banking apps denied to work. Workaround didn't work anymore.
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Just use their website? Or switch banks? I have my primary bank with a local outfit that doesn't care about rooting (although that's not why I got them, it certainly helps keep me there) if I need to deposit a check and everything else can be done on their mobile website.

My main reason would be for the custom Kernels and for Viper4Android. I didn't have a bunch of $ to fork out for 2 new phones so I went with Verizon so I won't be getting either unless I hit the lottery and then buy a Google Version of the P7P.
Anyone remember what made us able to root/ unlock the bootloader On the OG Verizon pixel?
Any chance of that happening on this device or should I just go ahead and do the system update that's waiting? For instance, I know the Samsung Galaxy Note Ultra 20 5G on Verizon(The Device I'm switching from) was locked down but apparently some guy on XDA started an Unlock service and would unlock it for ~$100.

I root since it's my XDA addiction!
Also add Titanium to the attached list!

bryan1854 said:
Any chance of that happening on this device or should I just go ahead and do the system update that's waiting? For instance, I know the Samsung Galaxy Note Ultra 20 5G on Verizon(The Device I'm switching from) was locked down but apparently some guy on XDA started an Unlock service and would unlock it for ~$100.
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From memory on the Verizon Pixel 1, there was a bug on Android 7.10, I believe it was, that fully just allowed us to toggle OEM unlocking on. From there it was a done deal. They patched it in 7.11. Again, from memory but it was either that or 7.11 before and 7.12 after.
And no, not likely to happen again. It would be very, very rare and like hitting the lottery. Didn't happen on the Pixel 6 Pro.

roirraW edor ehT said:
From memory on the Verizon Pixel 1, there was a bug on Android 7.10, I believe it was, that fully just allowed us to toggle OEM unlocking on. From there it was a done deal. They patched it in 7.11. Again, from memory but it was either that or 7.11 before and 7.12 after.
And no, not likely to happen again. It would be very, very rare and like hitting the lottery. Didn't happen on the Pixel 6 Pro.
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Maybe I will contact the guy doing it for the note 20 ultra and see if he thinks whatever he's doing to those phones is possible here.
Thanks for the reply.

galaxys said:
I root since it's my XDA addiction!
Also add Titanium to the attached list!
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holy crap, when you mention "Titanium", do you mean the backup?! or even the "tweaker"? either way, aren't those EOL for years???

EtherealRemnant said:
Just use their website? Or switch banks? I have my primary bank with a local outfit that doesn't care about rooting (although that's not why I got them, it certainly helps keep me there) if I need to deposit a check and everything else can be done on their mobile website.
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I don't see how that again helps with tan apps. But sure just don't use it is always an option.

hey_malik said:
I don't see how that again helps with tan apps. But sure just don't use it is always an option.
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The reality is that forced hardware attestation and the Play Integrity API will soon put an end to the tricks used to get around detection so people will have to figure out what root is worth to them. I decided awhile ago that I can live without it. Adb pull /sdcard does a nice enough backup job for me and Google's cloud backup pulls partial app data and will restore it where applicable.
Of course it does seem that there isn't a way to disable 5G SA on Pixels without disabling 5G altogether so I may have a use for root in the end anyway, time will tell, as I get sick of being stuck on T-Mobile's slow as molasses SA when midband is available.

Well i have rooted every other phone and rooting, installing kernel or roms solve some problem where oem is lazy or will not solve. Previously i was using OnePlus 7 pro with unlocked bootloader initially with Android 9. During Android 10 i prefer to lock bootloader again as during that time i was damm busy and getting time for root and transfer data was not possible. During Android 11 Oneplus had really ****ed up, device was getting hot like frying pan in summer. I really had no choice but to unlock bootloader and installed a stable custom rom(CR Droid) . Everything was perfect. After 9-10 months i thought i willl go to stock again and lock bootloader. But to my surprise cts profile was not getting matched. My phone was constantly recognized as Google pixel 6 pro (no NFC payment and play store dont recognize netfix) . Only safety net fix with Magisk was able to fix it. What really surprise is when i again installed Oxygen OS 10 cts profile was showing match with locked bootloader and with Oxygen OS 11,12 will show CTS profile mismatch. I really don't know what i had done wrong and there is no solution for locked bootloader.
So my suggestion is if anybody really want to unlock bootloader and have magisk prefer with your secondary device.

Is it possible to unlock 5G in another countries with root while having functional google wallet?

I only do it for AdAway. Would be wonderful if I could avoid rooting for blocking ads since it makes a few apps unusable (specificly Norwegian with no rooting community support). But I'll probably root my P7P when I get it on monday.