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Hey XDA!
I rooted my Infuse months ago and flashed a custom ROM I found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412957) with little trouble. ZEUS has worked great ever since and rarely fails for my purposes. I have a Limited Data plan (200 MB/Month) with AT&T and no warranty to worry about voiding
Anyway, I have some specific questions that seem to be affected by the conditions I've described. I apologize in advance, I'm by no means an expert and would appreciate any guidance offered
1) Being that I'm rooted and running a custom ROM, the usual methods of changing certain preferences are complicated. Specifically, how do I enter the "saved words" or "dictionary" that autocorrect uses for inputted text? I'd like to add/edit/delete words. Is there a method? With the stock ROM, it was pretty simple, but now I don't see any similar options when I'm in the settings menu.
2) I think Swype isn't supported by the new ROM because I no longer had the option of selecting it once I rooted and I do find I miss it lol. Any way to restore it without downloading an app?
3) Recently, I tried paying for an app* in the Market (or Play Store or whatever you wanna call it, but it'll always be the Market to me lol) and found that the only way to do that was through using Google Wallet. I found that Google Wallet wasn't listed in the Play Store when I searched the exact words "Google Wallet" and somewhere in this effort, concluded that ZEUS was too outdated to support the app. I think a prompt from the Play Store confirmed this, but I'm still not sure. Isn't ZEUS just a variation of Gingerbread, anyway? So, since I'm rooted with a custom ROM, am I ineligible from purchasing in the Market?
4*) APPS: Do you guys even "buy" apps? I'm vaguely familiar with the idea of "cracked apps" but have no idea how to safely procure any.
5) Generally, should I just flash to a newer ROM? ZEUS has worked pretty well, but the above issues (the most pressing being 1 and 4) have made me rethink ZEUS. That was months ago, is it now outdated? Any good ICS ROMS (unported, because I don't like dealing with the bugs that inevitably follow ported ROMS) available?
Any help would be a appreciated, I'm sorry this was such a long post and I did scour the forums as best I could before posting this thread.
Thanks a lot!
Rayk1080 said:
Hey XDA!
I rooted my Infuse months ago and flashed a custom ROM I found here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412957) with little trouble. ZEUS has worked great ever since and rarely fails for my purposes. I have a Limited Data plan (200 MB/Month) with AT&T and no warranty to worry about voiding
Anyway, I have some specific questions that seem to be affected by the conditions I've described. I apologize in advance, I'm by no means an expert and would appreciate any guidance offered
1) Being that I'm rooted and running a custom ROM, the usual methods of changing certain preferences are complicated. Specifically, how do I enter the "saved words" or "dictionary" that autocorrect uses for inputted text? I'd like to add/edit/delete words. Is there a method? With the stock ROM, it was pretty simple, but now I don't see any similar options when I'm in the settings menu.
2) I think Swype isn't supported by the new ROM because I no longer had the option of selecting it once I rooted and I do find I miss it lol. Any way to restore it without downloading an app?
3) Recently, I tried paying for an app* in the Market (or Play Store or whatever you wanna call it, but it'll always be the Market to me lol) and found that the only way to do that was through using Google Wallet. I found that Google Wallet wasn't listed in the Play Store when I searched the exact words "Google Wallet" and somewhere in this effort, concluded that ZEUS was too outdated to support the app. I think a prompt from the Play Store confirmed this, but I'm still not sure. Isn't ZEUS just a variation of Gingerbread, anyway? So, since I'm rooted with a custom ROM, am I ineligible from purchasing in the Market?
4*) APPS: Do you guys even "buy" apps? I'm vaguely familiar with the idea of "cracked apps" but have no idea how to safely procure any.
5) Generally, should I just flash to a newer ROM? ZEUS has worked pretty well, but the above issues (the most pressing being 1 and 4) have made me rethink ZEUS. That was months ago, is it now outdated? Any good ICS ROMS (unported, because I don't like dealing with the bugs that inevitably follow ported ROMS) available?
Any help would be a appreciated, I'm sorry this was such a long post and I did scour the forums as best I could before posting this thread.
Thanks a lot!
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1) Don't know about that. It's never been an issue for me. In general you'll find the settings for that type of stuff by opening the settings in the keyboard. But in general I think most people add words one at a time as it is necessary... I don't know if you can access the whole dictionary in an easy way, and even if you could... why?
2) Swype is an app. You don't have it, you can't use it. I would just reinstall.
3) ??? No. You shouldn't have any issues like this. Never happened to me; can't think of a reason why. Maybe problem with data connection? Maybe you should install a different ROM and start from scratch.
4) You'll get in trouble for even mentioning that, probably. Buy your apps, support the devs, period.
5) Yes, IMHO. ZEUS has been surpassed (again, IMHO.) I would run AEON or Vagabond for GB... both stable, great pieces of work. ICS still has room to grow and progress to be made, I think. There are some great choices there, and exciting features too. ParanoidAndroid, RemICS, jblparisi's... great stuff, (also none of it would be possible without jt1134 and Entropy) but I always end up going back to GB for the time being because of speed and stability.
Flash a new ROM, I would suggest. If your problems persist... search xda or ask.
But to me it sounds like your ROM just isn't working for you and you need something a little different...
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1) Don't know about that. It's never been an issue for me. In general you'll find the settings for that type of stuff by opening the settings in the keyboard. But in general I think most people add words one at a time as it is necessary... I don't know if you can access the whole dictionary in an easy way, and even if you could... why?
2) Swype is an app. You don't have it, you can't use it. I would just reinstall.
3) ??? No. You shouldn't have any issues like this. Never happened to me; can't think of a reason why. Maybe problem with data connection? Maybe you should install a different ROM and start from scratch.
4) You'll get in trouble for even mentioning that, probably. Buy your apps, support the devs, period.
5) Yes, IMHO. ZEUS has been surpassed (again, IMHO.) I would run AEON or Vagabond for GB... both stable, great pieces of work. ICS still has room to grow and progress to be made, I think. There are some great choices there, and exciting features too. ParanoidAndroid, RemICS, jblparisi's... great stuff, (also none of it would be possible without jt1134 and Entropy) but I always end up going back to GB for the time being because of speed and stability.
Flash a new ROM, I would suggest. If your problems persist... search xda or ask.
But to me it sounds like your ROM just isn't working for you and you need something a little different...
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Thank you SO MUCH for that comprehensive and helpfully speedy reply! Definitely will flash one of the newer ROMs you mentioned after I do some reading up. That, I think, will resolve most of these issues
In regards to why you would access the inputted text dictionary: to add/edit/delete words that appear as suggestions for autocorrect. I have several recurring words that are either in caps lock or misspelled ("you" becomes "yoy" way too often because I accidentally saved it one day). With the stock ROM and most others, accessing the setting is pretty straightforward. Settings/Language and Input/Dictionary or something like that.
In any case, I'll just flash something else, it's time for a change. Thanks again!
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Edit: Important: The newer V4 version of LeSec may no longer be usable for non-Chinese speakers. See this post #17 here, also to discuss alternatives
For all you Lenovo users out there,
I wanted to (re-)introduce this application. Because I have the impression that many Lenovo phone users rather quicly move on to migrated ROM's from for example APKHOT/Smileyvvv/Etotalk etc, where this app is cooked out.
You may want to reconsider going back to it, if it will still work on your phone with whatever ROM you have. It is really a very useful utility:
Firstly, it is a virusscanner. Not sure how useful a virusscanner is on Android, and as I want to avoid that discussion in this thread, that is the last I say about it.
It is also anti-spam. You can black- or whitelist SMS and Calls. See screenshots for an impression. Very useful.
Anti-theft is there. Send SMS upon SIM change, or remotely instruct the phone to send location or self-destruct. I suspect, but did not try, the SMS instruction is stored in /system, so a data-wipe will not undo this. But a good hacker will fully flash, so it only protects against noob thieves, like all anti-theft apps.
But those are common functions, readily availible in other apps. But now for the interesting feature:
It has a firewall. If that is the correct name. Or an app-wall. An permission-wall? You know those apps that you download that for some reason want permission to send SMS? Why does it need that? Or why does it want to read my contacts?
Well, you can per-app decide to block a permission. This app does not need to read my contacts. That app does not need to send SMS. And it will show you if an app tried to anyway. How cool is that?
Guest- and Childmode. Hide some apps. After all, we do not want junior to see daddies tripple-X rated apps. Or the wife. Which is why you can also hide certain contact's and call-history entries (wink, wink). It may also apply to banking apps and your bookie, though that is a bit more boring. Oh, and in Child mode the radio turns of as we want to protect junior from radiation...
Some of you that use Etotalk or APKHOT ROMS may have noticed the notification area buttons to these last two that were dead because this app was missing.
We could of course worry about whether this app in itself is not a spy, reporting everything you do to the Chinese government. But you may not be aware that this is true for *any* Chinese clone you buy. Typically those clonemakers do not release the kernel or framework source, so such a spy would be in there, not in a de-installable app. And if you are really worried about it, make sure you get a phone where you can install CyanogenMod compiled from source.
Personally, I doubt either Lenovo or China is interested in me, and if they do it means they have a Infinitesimals bigger datastore to clog their machinery before they find something on people like Liu Xiaobo or Tenzin Gyatso, which is actually a good thing. But I suspect the app is simply without such sinister intentions.
Anyway, attached is the version I got from my phone. From a Lenovo A750 ICS 4.0.3 S306. But I suspect it works with any phone that uses the Lenovo Framework, so any Lenovo ICS phone that has a not too heavily modded ROM. It did also work on the ICS 4.0.3 Lenovo P700 ROW S113 (Rest Of World edition) edition.
I provide update.zip installers for MT6575 and MT6577 (because I know their partition table). It probably also works on Lenovo Framework phones based on MT6573/MT7513 or even MSM7227/MSM7527, maybe even GB ones. But then you need to take the two *.apk files from inside the zip file, and copy them manually into /system/app, as the update.zip installer will not work for that.
But do try, and please report back if it does or does not work on your phone/rom. There is also an uninstall package. Oh, and you are messing with /system, so as always, at your own risk, ensure you can always flash back a working ROM or have a Nandroid backup before you experiment.
Your zip didn't work on my A789, which is using the apkhot based rom available on forum.china-iphone.ru. After extracting the apk files, copying to /system/app and manually setting permissions, it's working like a charm.
Thanks, I really missed it. On the most recent cooked roms, I miss many things available on the Lenovo official ones, like the fm transmitter, or the butterfly-like widget on the default home screen. Some cookers tend to leave out any non standard apps without even taking some time to know what they do. Not all Chinese apps are rubbish or impossible to understand, and Lenovo is a serious company.
Ok, here you have the FM radio and transmitter of the A789, but it probably does not work, as it is Odex'ed.
And I uploaded seperate installers for MT6575 and MT6577
Also, on your APKHOT, please confirm it actually blocks permissions and blacklists SMS. I am not sure how much the APKHOT deviates from the Lenovo Framework, so merely being able to install and configure may be too soon to tell.
PS: why not try my factory-cleaned A789 ROM? It comes with all those apps by default, and I now have 3 positive feedback.
Come to think of it, why did I take this security app from A750, when A789 is newer....
Edit: Because they are both the same version. In fact the LeSec has not changed since Dec 2010, according to the internal dex binary.
I have tested call blocking and it works, but it isn't so important, since call blocking is a built in feature of the Mediatek framework. You can block calls from any contact you have on your Google account just out of the box, and it works great. I've tested older phones which used older Mediatek chipsets and that feature has been part of the Mediatek framework since MT6573.
The FM transmitter won't work that way, since it is odexed. But it doesn't work deodexed, either. I've just got a deodexed version of the app, thanks to a friend from another forum, and it doesn't work very well. It works, but I had to stick the phone to the antenna on my radio in order to hear something. People I've talked to say that the transmitter works great on the stock Lenovo roms, so maybe it's just some incompatibility with the apkhot roms.
The only reason I'm not using your rom (which I have downloaded) is that I wanted to setup the phone in Spanish, and the rom I'm currently using is the only one I've found which contains that language. Just a quick question: is there any noticable performance increase on the s227 based roms? If so, I don't care using the phone in English, since I just want the most feature rich rom.
Thinking it twice, I've remembered another reason. One of the things I like most about the apkhot rom I'm using is that the external sdcard is mounted on /sdcard and not /mnt/sdcard2, which avoids problems with many apps. I tried one of the newest apkhot roms, based on s227, and none of the tricks to exchange /sdcard and /mnt/sdcard2 worked with it.
I'll reply to that in the A789 thread, as we seem to deviate from the security app.
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Edit: Because they are both the same version. In fact the LeSec has not changed since Dec 2010, according to the internal dex binary.
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I remember there was an update of that app on my A750 with your ROM. Now with apkhot I installed that package posted above and I have the older / original version. But there is no update offered...
That was probably on the S148 Gingerbread ROM. That one has an older version. I know, because I messed up trying to install it, as I had that older GB version and the new ICS one both in my Titanium backup. Also, the Dec 2010 date is probably false, I just got OTA ROW_S114, and it too had all files timestamed to Dec 2010. But I am certain the LeSec from S306 and S227 are the same, the binary compared identical. Official version is V3.5.1.3.5.2.0041 and the update button tells me there is no newer.
Every so often it does update the virus/blacklist signatures, but that is not the app itself. Current virus signature 2012.09.14 Current harasment (blacklist) 2012.07.11
But if you find a newer one, please do let me know.
I've been trying LeSec further and it works, but I found a problem I wasn't able to fix, so, until I found a solution, I've freezed it with Titanium Backup. The problem is that I'm using Go SMS Pro, instead of the default messaging app, since I need to write SMS in Spanish and the default app doesn't support Spanish characters like accents, etc. Go SMS Pro works, but every time I send an SMS, LeSec thinks an unauthorized app is trying to send an SMS in the background, and shows a popup to let you decide whether to allow it or not. I haven't found a way to disable that, and it's a bit annoying having to click two buttons everytime I want to send a message.
Its probably a silly question, but you did go into LeSec->ChargeShield-SMS and ensure that your app was allowed to send SMS in background?
Probably for reasons of 'likely form of attack' the SMS apps are (unlike other permissions) by default in a 'Warning' setting, but if the warning does not come to the foreground on your phone, it may simply not work.
Also, rather than freezing LeSec completely, you could go into ChargeShield, and simply turn of the ChargeShield.
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That was probably on the S148 Gingerbread ROM. That one has an older version. I know, because I messed up trying to install it, as I had that older GB version and the new ICS one both in my Titanium backup. Also, the Dec 2010 date is probably false, I just got OTA ROW_S114, and it too had all files timestamed to Dec 2010. But I am certain the LeSec from S306 and S227 are the same, the binary compared identical. Official version is V3.5.1.3.5.2.0041 and the update button tells me there is no newer.
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No, I used the S148 just some days and updated to your S306 V1.2 and simply stayed there, because it works very well. After some time it offered me an update and the user interface changed a bit with that update. The way how you set privacy on app level and so on. The update button itsself never worked for me either.
Sadly, backup never worked on that rom. I found that out as I wanted to try apkhot. To be honest, I didn't try on apkhot, yet.
A few minutes ago, I was offered a 4.1.4 version and installed it. Now it's purely chinese
Maybe I have to reboot the phone for english...
From the design it is a version newer than the version I wrote about...
leFloyd said:
A few minutes ago, I was offered a 4.1.4 version and installed it. Now it's purely chinese
Maybe I have to reboot the phone for english...
From the design it is a version newer than the version I wrote about...
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Well, before you put the old one back, safe this one for me will ya.
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Well, before you put the old one back, safe this one for me will ya.
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I don't want the old one back - I want this one to be english
How do I save it? Any idea where it has downloaded it's update? This was done within the app...
Well, it would have simply replaced the two apk's in the /system/app folder.
So look for:
LenovoSafeCenter.apk
LenovoSageWidget.apk
or something similar, it could have changed its name, or added a 3rd component.
Got the files?
Sent from my Lenovo A750 using xda app-developers app
Well, it seems that Lenove Security (LeSec for short, and LenovoSafeCenter officially) is becoming less usuable. As mentioned above, it is fully Chinese, no Engrish anywere.
I had a look at the new V4 of it, even decompiled it. Not only 100% Chinese, but is hardcoded in the app, there are no resource xml files that we could translate. A big pity.
Also, there is one app (Waze, a social car navigation app) that in the latest version is incompatible with LeSec. Though it is at this moment the only incompatibility I ran into, it is also a pity.
That may mean we need to find an alternative:
For now, these two has shown up:
LBE : Somehow, I think LBE is actually the company that makes Lenovo LeSec. Or at least, there logo is shown in the about menu of LeSec as part of the "in cooperation with" mentions. Maybe the reason why the free LeSec is limiting itself?
Anyway, I am trying out LBE at the moment, to see how it works.
pDroid : pDroid looks promising. Specifically, they are promising ICS support, but right now, only GB, so one to keep an eye on, but not availible to us just yet.
Permissions Denied : A Paid app. But if it works well, it may be worth it. Not looked at it yet.
So, LBE seems to work well. It does not have the hiding of apps for 'child mode' and 'privacy mode'. Nor does it have the 'anti-theft' or 'virus-scan' but it does the permissions thing well.
I tested, it nicely prompted/blocked permissions. And to be honest, using a slight more clear interface. If it is permissions, which was indeed what I was after, LBE seems to do the job. I also like I can block internet use separate for 3G and Wireless. Very useful.
One problem though: Waze is failing in the same way as with LeSec. Even if I make it a 'trusted' app. It seems the latest version of Waze simply does not like to be looked at too closely.
anti theft
I cannot input number In anti theft . for ex if I write +35989xxxxx I need two more digits but it does not allow it. If I write in national format 0899.... I have to write more digits than the phone number has. Any solution?
As mentioned, while I started enthusiastic about LeSec, it is now focussing too much on China alone. Not as good internationally.
Try using one of the other anti-theft solutions.
Hi
A friend bought a UMI diamond X a month ago.
From yesterday he stars to have some commercials each time that he takes his phone.
Did the put something in the stock rom that activate after a little time of use ?
Someone knows something?
thanks
I don't know if there is a delay or not before adds start but Chinese phones are known to have quite aggressive ad network even with stock apps & they have weak privacy often, so it could be a stock app. Some Chinese phones have also been shown to do silent upgrades, so you don't know when they update something (can't recall if Umi is one) which is why is may only start a month later.
However it could be due to malware/adware downloaded from a website or if he has used one of the Chinese app stores to get an app or any store that is not Google you are increasing your risks, those stores are not well regulated and many apps have had adware/malware inserted into legitimate looking apps like youtube etc. Did he recently download some apps from an app store that was NOT Google?
see eg
http://blog.teamleadnet.com/2015/06/how-to-remove-adware-browser-hijack-or.html
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfi6N10ARFA
(also lookout for Chinese apps (or any other unusual apps) with western alphabet like Baidu, which this guy seems to ignore)
IronRoo said:
I don't know if there is a delay or not before adds start but Chinese phones are known to have quite aggressive ad network even with stock apps & they have weak privacy often, so it could be a stock app. Some Chinese phones have also been shown to do silent upgrades, so you don't know when they update something (can't recall if Umi is one) which is why is may only start a month later.
However it could be due to malware/adware downloaded from a website or if he has used one of the Chinese app stores to get an app or any store that is not Google you are increasing your risks, those stores are not well regulated and many apps have had adware/malware inserted into legitimate looking apps like youtube etc. Did he recently download some apps from an app store that was NOT Google?
see eg
http://blog.teamleadnet.com/2015/06/how-to-remove-adware-browser-hijack-or.html
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfi6N10ARFA
(also lookout for Chinese apps (or any other unusual apps) with western alphabet like Baidu, which this guy seems to ignore)
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Thanks.
As far as I know he didn't install something for a while and on the umi diamond X there is no parallel app store.
He did a factory reset but if there are new commercial pop up i'll try your links , thank you again
Android 5.0 and above, just download, install DNS66 from Fdroid. Update all hosts file.
Cedric1127 said:
Hi
A friend bought a UMI diamond X a month ago.
From yesterday he stars to have some commercials each time that he takes his phone.
Did the put something in the stock rom that activate after a little time of use ?
Someone knows something?
thanks
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I have the same problem, couple days ago commercials started shows all time, i tried use DNS66 and it doesn't help.
Do anybody know how to root this phone?
I can tell that on UMI Super apart from the battery additions and MediaTek apps there is no of that, very little bloat.. alost AOSP.
This also should help you identify some MTK apps http://bitlog.it/re/dissecting-an-android-chinaphone/
Bringing this up .
I have exactly the same problem. Ad starts showing up on lock screen and every few day some fake app installs out of nowhere. What can I do?
Wrote about it here on xda
The only thing I haven't tried yet is going to stock but now I found this topic and not sure if even that would help. Did OP had any luck with this?
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Thanks.
As far as I know he didn't install something for a while and on the umi diamond X there is no parallel app store.
He did a factory reset but if there are new commercial pop up i'll try your links , thank you again
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cyryl85 said:
I have the same problem, couple days ago commercials started shows all time, i tried use DNS66 and it doesn't help.
Do anybody know how to root this phone?
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I can tell that on UMI Super apart from the battery additions and MediaTek apps there is no of that, very little bloat.. alost AOSP.
This also should help you identify some MTK apps http://bitlog.it/re/dissecting-an-android-chinaphone/
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Bringing this up .
I have exactly the same problem. Ad starts showing up on lock screen and every few day some fake app installs out of nowhere. What can I do?
Wrote about it here on xda
The only thing I haven't tried yet is going to stock but now I found this topic and not sure if even that would help. Did OP had any luck with this?
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I saw another forum where someone says you need to freeze the "super cleaner" app (can't be uninstalled) that comes with the phone to stop this & maybe any of the DU branded apps also if they
(edit: on other phone eg Zuji they have another app "battery saver " that seems to work similarly and serve ads or/or push apps to your phone in the same way that needed to be frozen)
I am having lots of problems with my umi diamond x screen keeps jumping and goes into the black screen with all your settings on like wifi aeroplane mode screen brightness etc it locks up the phone, I am also getting lots of adds and the phone is getting hot and using up the battery too, I have taken the sim out and sd card and it still does this so the issues are not sd or sim so it must be the operating system on the phone or something, I have tried everything but cant fix can anyone help or should I just buy a new phone
you can try a factory reset or you can flash the phone with an original room or a custom room but as far as I remember there are very few custom ROMs for this phone
I have ordered a Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra and am now waiting for it to be despatched and delivered. I wish I had found this forum earlier and I might have ordered from a different (recommended) seller. I'm told that despatch will be no later than Friday 4th December - we shall see.
I have ordered the Chinese version and have bookmarked a web page which explains how to access the appropriate settings, not being able to read Chinese, by using icons. I'm hoping that I can get through that to convert to English otherwise I'm stuck. I see that unlocking the bootloader is pretty straightforward so I shall start that process as soon as I receive the 'phone.
I have flashed custom ROMs and rooted most of my previous 'phones although now that I'm 84 I have to work from a printed list of instructions in order that I don't forget something. Bad memory comes with age. I haven't yet decided whether or not to flash the European ROM.
I have seen, on the web two differing opinions regarding the Chinese ROM camera and the European ROM camera. I am buying this phone because of its camera and I have seen remarks that infer that the camera in the European ROM is not as good as the one in the Chinese ROM so I am wary of flashing the EU ROM. Does anyone have any knowledge of this?
Now I just have to wait.
If your device is pristine, at first boot you will be prompted to choose the language.
Some sellers wight do that for you, so you could receive your device already in English and even with google play store installed.
This way or another, you will have to wait 1 week in order to unlock bootloader. Plenty of time for playing with stock rom.
From what I realized, I could be easily staying with stock rom. But now I am sure that switching to EU rom is the only way to go. I moved to EU rom right after unlocking and never looked back.
As for camera question - I am enjoying EU rom camera, nothing bad so far.
batareikin51 said:
If your device is pristine, at first boot you will be prompted to choose the language.
Some sellers wight do that for you, so you could receive your device already in English and even with google play store installed.
This way or another, you will have to wait 1 week in order to unlock bootloader. Plenty of time for playing with stock rom.
From what I realized, I could be easily staying with stock rom. But now I am sure that switching to EU rom is the only way to go. I moved to EU rom right after unlocking and never looked back.
As for camera question - I am enjoying EU rom camera, nothing bad so far.
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I am supposed to be getting a sealed box which means that nothing extra will have been installed. If I do get a language prompt on first boot then that will make things easy. I haven't seen anyone mention specific camera problems i.e. exposure, contrast, tonal range etc so I've really no idea what these problems might be.
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I haven't seen anyone mention specific camera problems i.e. exposure, contrast, tonal range etc so I've really no idea what these problems might be.
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Just think about it like this "Who in the world would want to create from the scratch an alternative cam application for a very sophisticated cam if this app can be ported from Chinese rom in a snap of fingers?" There is no alternative cam app for Mi 10 ultra. It is the same app. So it is buggy at the same extent as stock rom cam app. As one of devs elaborated on this issue "there might be numerous factors contributing to bad image quality on a particular device. but that not necessarily means that camera app is buggy"
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Just think about it like this "Who in the world would want to create from the scratch an alternative cam application for a very sophisticated cam if this app can be ported from Chinese rom in a snap of fingers?" There is no alternative cam app for Mi 10 ultra. It is the same app. So it is buggy at the same extent as stock rom cam app. As one of devs elaborated on this issue "there might be numerous factors contributing to bad image quality on a particular device. but that not necessarily means that camera app is buggy"
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I see your point. So there is really no reason to not install the EU ROM. Thank you for your reply.
This has now become purely theoretical as I have just discovered that my local service here in rural Wales depends on Band 20 which this phone doesn't have.
I have cancelled my order which is a great pity as I was looking forward to using this device. Quite a disappointment.
BarrySamuels said:
I have cancelled my order which is a great pity as I was looking forward to using this device. Quite a disappointment.
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Yeah, that is its Achilles heel
Luckily in my area band 20 is of less significance.
Ultra is a true legend, but there are Mi 11 series' devices coming in pipeline.
I understand that Xiaomi said that they wouldn't produce an international version of Mi 10 Ultra but perhaps that is because one of the new Mi 11 range will have similar specifications. Here's hoping.
I'm in South Wales and have the Ultra on the way, it was despatched a few days ago. When you mentioned band 20, I'd that only for 5g? If it is I've no problem missing out on that as 4g is plenty fast enough for me plus I have unlimited data on the 3 network.
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I'm in South Wales and have the Ultra on the way, it was despatched a few days ago. When you mentioned band 20, I'd that only for 5g? If it is I've no problem missing out on that as 4g is plenty fast enough for me plus I have unlimited data on the 3 network.
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No bro. Band 20 is for 4g. But 3g would be pretty fast too.
sunilstark 1 said:
No bro. Band 20 is for 4g. But 3g would be pretty fast too.
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Thanks for that, if I'm reading write it'll support 5g over here though and 5g is being rolled out in my area.
Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra: Price, specs and best deals
As with the vast majority of Xiaomi phones, the Mi 10 Ultra does not go unnoticed far from it. It has the well-known Snapdragon 865 that we can combine with 8GB, 12GB or 16GB of RAM and a storage capacity that has its ceiling at 512GB. With this data, the AnTuTu score reaches 589,000 points...
www.kimovil.com
If you are in UK then go onto sim that uses EE network which predominantly uses band 3 & 7 for 4G.
I use Three network and not had any issues with 4G. I live in the North East UK
Nobody asked but I am using EE here in Essex and my Ultra gets 5G... giffgaff gets 4G.
By the way, I have never flashed custom ROMs or rooted any of my devices and to be honest I am still comfortable with the Chinese ROM despite the annoying notifications in Chinese. I haven't had the chance to try everything tho, I received my device a week ago.
What do you guys think? Should I aim to flash the European ROM anyway? I think that the warranty is void if the phone is flashed or rooted.
It's up to you if you want to change to EU or not. Yes gifgaf is based on O2, so no band 20 as you have found out. I'm the same too with Sky and EE.
I did move over to the EU ROM as it gives you full GMS over the hacked version installed by the seller but also for the great additional extras to the ROM and the support from the Xiaomi EU forum.
If you've not done any modifications or flashed ROMs it can be daunting but with this phone and it ability to access fastboot, you can practically never brick it. There is always a way of getting back to a working phone. You will need to unlock your bootloader and wait a further 168 hours to do anything but I have produced a guide that takes you through all this if you want and I'm here if you need help, just message me. I have in the past even helped over Skype and remote pc for some.
As all the most recent ROMs are now twrp compatible, you only need your pc to push twrp from fastboot to replace your stock recovery, then install your first EU ROM by twrp. After that you can just use the inbuilt updater to update. Of course it's your preference. If you don't like it, you can always go back stock Chinese, this will remove twrp and you can lock your bootloader again ( can't do this while on EU ROM) and you will be back to how you were. My only advise as you will get your phone formatted when you unlock after 168 hour wait and you must if you change ROM branches too, so make a good off phone back up so you can restore your data.
Here is a list of the EU ROM extras...
Based on China Stable / Weekly builds
Enabled search gesture (swipe up) on the desktop
3way reboot menu (in dev settings)
Dark Mode (Night Mode) for all devices
Removed ads in MIUI system apps
MIUI Dialer and Messages apps
Face Unlock for all devices
Vertical clock widget on lockscreen
Steps counter in Assistant screen
More shortcuts on left lockscreen
Wake up gestures for all devices
AI preloading option in MIUI Lab for all devices
Fullscreen gestures for all devices
Option to auto-expand first notification
Notifications priority settings
More edit options in Gallery app
Enabled MiDrive in File Explorer
Added landscape mode for SMS app
Sunrise/Sunset in the weather app
Google apps support integrated
Removed 5GHz region restrictions
Confirm dials from call logs
Morning report on alarm at morning
More apps supported for AOD notifications
More styles for AOD screen
Raise to wake gesture
AOD notification received animation
Default volume control stream toggle
Tap fingerprint sensor to wake toggle
More Camera features
Double tap to lock screen
Battery AI scenes
Allowed disabling specific system apps
Importing theme .mtz from zhuti.xiaomi.com via ThemeManager
No useless Chinese bloatware apps
More free RAM due to less background processes
Unified flat style app icons for both system and 3rd party apps
Advanced menu with color icons
No any Chinese character under the full system
Mi Video, Mi Music, Mi Browser: No any useless Chinese content
No possibility to re-lock bootloader accidentally with flash any xiaomi.eu release
Added real 27 languages translation made by Official MIUI Fansites and MIUI Fans
Added EU T9 dialer support
Added charging sound switch
Added Screen-OFF animation
Optimized GPS settings for EU
Optimized Battery consumption
Optimized RAM consumption
Added 3D Touch to MI5S 3GB RAM version
Added GSMalphabet into SMS app options
Added more icons grid layout 4x5, 4x6, 4x7, 5x5, 5x6, 5x7 (depends on device)
SafetyNet passed (Google Pay)
Play Store Certified
Deodexed
Added automated tasks in Security app
Added game speed booster
Added erase module (magic elimination) to Gallery photo edit options
Fixed low volume sound via headphone
Charging screen for all devices
Widevine L1 (for supported devices)
And more, and more made by our 9 years MIUI mods experience.
Hey, thanks for that and the document, really appreciate it!
I am still thinking about having giffgaff as my main SIM despite getting 4G. I have 5G with EE on my Ultra but the problem with EE is its signal indoors. For any reason it is pretty bad, even when I am in Central London, while giffgaff runs smoothly. I don't know how many calls I have missed due to that, and apparently I am not the only one with this issue.
This has been happening with my Redmi Note 4 in the last 3+ years and now happens with my Ultra as well, so defo the problem is the network not the phone. I also use giffgaff for international calls, EE tariffs are 5x or more expensive for int'l calls to the same country... crazy!
Regarding the EU ROM procedure, I will try doing so in the next days following your instructions and I will write down my experience here. I reckon I am a bit scared to do so, it's first time I spend that much money on buying a flagship phone (and on any electronics I think) and don't wanna mess it up. However I will post any issues I encounter.
Cheers!
Good luck if you do make the plunge to go EU. As I said, you can always go back if you want to.
Just make sure you have an off phone back up before you start and you have the new ROM ready to copy over from your PC or usb stick. This way you can use fastboot to push twrp, then reboot straight to recovery (twrp) and flash your ROM. There is a good chance the twrp may be in Chinese, so you will need to change it to English. Once done, format data and reboot. Then wait as it will take ages but as long as you see 5G and miui then it will be fine. If you need any support, message me.
Hello,
Not sure if it's the right place, but I'm getting depressed with my Xiaomi 12 behaviour. Since last update, MIUI global 13.2.4, the phone keeps killing apps, even if I set those with :
- not battery restriction
- auto startup
I tried a factory reset, I unlocked it, rooted it. It keeps killing apps. It's annoying, because I use Vivid and removed the navigation buttons. I let you imagine how I can be stuck sometimes when Vivid is killed. Yet, Vivid is locked... So MIUI regurlaty kills it, and sometimes, it even loses the accessibility autorisation.
How can I know what's killing it ? Obviousily, I'm not in Eco mode, and this behaviour also occurs in performance mode. Everything worked very fine until last update.
Sirguda said:
Hello,
Not sure if it's the right place, but I'm getting depressed with my Xiaomi 12 behaviour. Since last update, MIUI global 13.2.4, the phone keeps killing apps, even if I set those with :
- not battery restriction
- auto startup
I tried a factory reset, I unlocked it, rooted it. It keeps killing apps. It's annoying, because I use Vivid and removed the navigation buttons. I let you imagine how I can be stuck sometimes when Vivid is killed. Yet, Vivid is locked... So MIUI regurlaty kills it, and sometimes, it even loses the accessibility autorisation.
How can I know what's killing it ? Obviousily, I'm not in Eco mode, and this behaviour also occurs in performance mode. Everything worked very fine until last update.
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Maybe a bug in the rom which is a stable beta.
The ROM is official, it's been deployed in France last week.
Sirguda said:
The ROM is official, it's been deployed in France last week.
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And so, Xiaomi has been deploying beta roms on stable channels for a long time.
Xiaomi 12 EEAStable BetaRecoveryV13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM13.04.8 GB2022-12-01
If it worked before this update, you have the answer.
NOSS8 said:
And so, Xiaomi has been deploying beta roms on stable channels for a long time.
Xiaomi 12 EEAStable BetaRecoveryV13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM13.04.8 GB2022-12-01
If it worked before this update, you have the answer.
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OTA update for an entire country are with beta ? If so, this is a joke. How can I report this to Xiaomi ?
Sirguda said:
OTA update for an entire country are with beta ? If so, this is a joke. How can I report this to Xiaomi ?
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You are not the only one to have had problems following updates, the solution if it worked before, is to flash the previous rom or to use a Xiaomi EU rom.
Sometimes Xiaomi renames a Stable Beta to stable without fixing anything.
NOSS8 said:
You are not the only one to have had problems following updates, the solution if it worked before, is to flash the previous rom or to use a Xiaomi EU rom.
Sometimes Xiaomi renames a Stable Beta to stable without fixing anything.
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Previous ROM is in Android 12. Downgrading won't be a problem ? Keeps root ? EU Roms seem far behind.
Sirguda said:
Previous ROM is in Android 12. Downgrading won't be a problem ? Keeps root ?
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Downgrading requires a clean flash and the root is lost along with your data.
Use this tool:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/flash-tool-guide-use-xiaomi-flash-tool.4262425/
And disable the update.
EDIT:
I use a Xiaomi EU rom on my 12 pro and I have several apps that must remain in the background, works very well.
With a Xiaomi EU rom you will have the certified play store without root and lots of extra options.
This is happening to me also and many other people. Fun times waking up to find that your alarm clock hasn't gone off because it was killed in the background.
There doesn't seem to be a workaround yet. There's several posts on the mi.com forums regarding it:
Xiaomi Community
new.c.mi.com
People there have discussed making a bug report via the feedback app (Settings->"Services & Feedback") might garner some support for Xiaomi to fix the issue... one can only hope.
All I can say is if you're thing of updating to V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM OTA then DONT! Teach me to apply an update without checking on it first.
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This is happening to me also and many other people. Fun times waking up to find that your alarm clock hasn't gone off because it was killed in the background.
There doesn't seem to be a workaround yet. There's several posts on the mi.com forums regarding it:
Xiaomi Community
new.c.mi.com
People there have discussed making a bug report via the feedback app (Settings->"Services & Feedback") might garner some support for Xiaomi to fix the issue... one can only hope.
All I can say is if you're thing of updating to V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM OTA then DONT! Teach me to apply an update without checking on it first.
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Go to this site if you need anything, the updates with beta roms on the stable channel do not date from today, many threads on this subject have been created without change since today the problem persists.
Reporting bugs via Services & Feedback hasn't changed anything either.
Note that since the redesign of their site, important threads have disappeared and even some devices.
As a reminder, it is the moderators of this site who report information, well that's just theory because in practice, nothing happens.
If you want answers from Xiaomi, tell them you want to buy a new phone because that's what they're interested in, selling.
I tell you this because at a certain time, I was active on this site, but some of my posts were deleted because I explained how to solve or work around the problem.
Sometimes by checking the hash of a beta rom and the following stable, it was the same.
The solution is to unlock the bootloader and downgrade or install a Xiaomi EU rom.
bunklebeard said:
This is happening to me also and many other people. Fun times waking up to find that your alarm clock hasn't gone off because it was killed in the background.
There doesn't seem to be a workaround yet. There's several posts on the mi.com forums regarding it:
Xiaomi Community
new.c.mi.com
People there have discussed making a bug report via the feedback app (Settings->"Services & Feedback") might garner some support for Xiaomi to fix the issue... one can only hope.
All I can say is if you're thing of updating to V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM OTA then DONT! Teach me to apply an update without checking on it first.
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I'm kind of relieved that's I'm not the only one with this issue. For sure I dont take a xiaomi anymore. I had doubt about MIUI, and gesture unavailable with 3rd party launcher + this killing app bug, makes me regret not have taken a Samsung S22.
" I had doubt about MIUI, and gesture una aimable with 3rd party launcher"
Xiaomi blocks this function with third-party apps (not new).
NOSS8 said:
" I had doubt about MIUI, and gesture una aimable with 3rd party launcher"
Xiaomi blocks this function with third-party apps (not new).
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Not new, but it's a detail you have trouble knowing before buying. With Vivid Gesture, I was plainly satisfied, but this new bug is really frustrating.
Regarding "Xiaomi EU rom", how well tested is it? Do they have an issue tracker and a list of known bugs?
I've rooted and flashed community ROMs in the past only to find out they are poorly tested / have horrible QA and although superficially they work fine other aspects didn't like Bluetooth, Android Auto or certain camera modes etc.
It has been a while though since I last attempted one, maybe things have moved on since then?
Xiaomi has removed so much of the Google framework that even push notifications isn't working. Take note that the Global ROM is based on the CN variant which is known for aggressive background killing of apps.
In Xiaomi's defense, they are "freeing up" up to 800mb of your internal storage by removing most of Google's API but in the expense of all the issues encountered by Global ROM users.
So if anyone is interested, I'm trying to see if disabling com.miui.powerkeeper works round this issue of background apps being killed in V13.2.4.0.TLCEUXM .
I followed this tutorial:
How to disable any pre-installed system app bloatware on Android without root
If you hate the bloatware or pre-installed apps on your Android smartphone, here's how to disable them even if Android doesn't normally let you.
www.xda-developers.com
Will report back if I notice any improvement.
Maybe someone more knowledgable might be able to tell me if there are any downside to disabling this package?
I am suffering the exact same problem with my device since the 13.2.4 update, what i nightmare to use the device since then ! As the other users already reported, it s even killing the alarm app which prevents it to ring ! But it also impacts all app notifications, like whatsapp, outlook, etc. After being killed I don't get the new notifications for those.
I can't believe that they are pushing such an update globally, they are gonna lose a lot of customers which such a poor strategy, as this is not just a "little" bug.
I am interested in the Xiaomi.EU rom, looks like they released one 2 days ago with version number 13.2.6, but I have to investigate if we can install that over our official version on an original EU device, and if it requires a full data wipe or not.
kalhimeo said:
I am suffering the exact same problem with my device since the 13.2.4 update, what i nightmare to use the device since then ! As the other users already reported, it s even killing the alarm app which prevents it to ring ! But it also impacts all app notifications, like whatsapp, outlook, etc. After being killed I don't get the new notifications for those.
I can't believe that they are pushing such an update globally, they are gonna lose a lot of customers which such a poor strategy, as this is not just a "little" bug.
I am interested in the Xiaomi.EU rom, looks like they released one 2 days ago with version number 13.2.6, but I have to investigate if we can install that over our official version on an original EU device, and if it requires a full data wipe or not.
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Welcome to XIAOMI.
You can check below the version of the rom proposed for the update, before performing it.
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/archive/miui/cupid/
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You can either update the rom with the update.bat file included in the Fastboot.zip folder but since it is an A13 version, it is preferable to format the data with the first install.bat file .
Obviously the bootloader must be unlocked.
Also remove the security from the lock screen and restart the system.
Hello. I have exactly the same problem. I just bought the phone, after a week I got that update and it made me completely regret that I bought it. Is there any "clean" way to return to the version of MIUI I bought the phone with?
Would a reset return me to the old version? Since i got almost nothing important in the phone, it wouldnt be a big deal.
zazajin said:
Hello. I have exactly the same problem. I just bought the phone, after a week I got that update and it made me completely regret that I bought it. Is there any "clean" way to return to the version of MIUI I bought the phone with?
Would a reset return me to the old version? Since i got almost nothing important in the phone, it wouldnt be a big deal.
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Bootloader must be Unlocked.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/miui-keeps-killing-apps.4529641/post-87852189