It basically becomes completely unusable. Takes ages to boot and apps won't open. Fortunately I backed up the apk before uninstalling it, and was able to reinstall using adb. Rebooted after and it's completely back to normal.
Disabling/freezing Chrome seems to have no adverse effects.
Not impressed.
Yes, Chrome can behave very weird. I have somewhat better stability with Chrome Beta....
I just don't like that the Google ecosystem is forced on me. They collect too much data as it is without me also using their browser.
Slikkster2k said:
It basically becomes completely unusable. Takes ages to boot and apps won't open. Fortunately I backed up the apk before uninstalling it, and was able to reinstall using adb. Rebooted after and it's completely back to normal.
Disabling/freezing Chrome seems to have no adverse effects.
Not impressed.
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Did you force remove through adb? Which variant , global?
mattie_49 said:
Did you force remove through adb? Which variant , global?
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Yes and yes.
galaxys said:
Yes, Chrome can behave very weird. I have somewhat better stability with Chrome Beta....
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Sounds like it might have some dependencies that need it.
If it's screwing up boot, it's a bad sign that could degenerate into a boot loop. That wouldn't be pretty.
Try enabling Chrome but firewall block it which is what I do with Karma Firewall* with no adverse effects. Easy to access it if needed too.
More than one way to skin an Android
*it's freeware that uses almost no battery, a near perfect app. It's logging function doesn't work on Q or above... thank Gookill for that. However it will still block apps from internet access. I'm running on Pie... Karma is great.
Slikkster2k said:
Yes and yes.
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I tried doing this same thing on the Verizon variant op8. Unlocked bl and stock Verizon a11 build. Broke rom completely. I'm on the global 9 now. But without an available msm tool I'm quite skeptical to do anything but just freeze unused apps through titanium.
You need to be sure you have a webview installed when you remove chrome. Either Android webview which is from Google or bromite. You can also try ungoogled chromium.
Mh, I froze Chrome via adb or titanium backup (it is always back on service after reboot) so I blocked it in addition via afwall...
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Hi all. Quick question; searched and didn't find a response. So...
There are a few Google apps I'd really like to lose. Namely Play Books, Play Movies/TV, Play Newstand, and Play Games. I'm never going to use them, so I'd just as soon uninstall them. My question is can I uninstall these through Titanium Backup or are they crucial system apps that I should just leave alone and learn to live with?
Thanks!
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
experience7 said:
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
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I freeze every one of those apps with Titanium backup every time I install gaaps or return to stock. No issues with them frozen on N5 at all.
experience7 said:
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
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I never thought about that. Thanks! :highfive: I feel so dumb...
Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
Actually, all deactivating them in Apps does is uninstall the updates. They're still there.
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Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
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The advantage in freezing them is you retain the ability to take OTA updates without reflashing system.
Jason_MCG said:
Actually, all deactivating them in Apps does is uninstall the updates. They're still there.
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Titanium Backup is worth the price. The UI is terrible. Still can't find a replacement I'm happy with.
experience7 said:
Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
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I would think most people who are active on these threads chose a nexus for ease of changing ROMS. I would lose my mind doing that without the pro version of TiBu. Have it anyway so used it. Also, freeze is nice because I can quickly thaw out a memory hog program, use it as I need to and then quickly refreeze it with all data in tact.
Aerowinder said:
The advantage in freezing them is you retain the ability to take OTA updates without reflashing system.
Titanium Backup is worth the price. The UI is terrible. Still can't find a replacement I'm happy with.
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Of course it is - bought it years ago.
You can delete any app with the full version of Titanium Backup.
But I'm pretty sure that you can disable them like I mentioned above and still receive OTA's Am I wrong?
Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
No ETA pls
Let's wait
funkyblue04 said:
Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
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There is no "usual" number. Some phones got root before they were even out officially. Some took a few days. Some took over a month. And some end up retired without a safe root option.
First rule of xda: don't ask for eta
I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
funkyblue04 said:
I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
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I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
I like to be about to restore all my data and apps with Titanium Backup. So much easier.
wolf0491 said:
I have nothing but force closes when restoring with titanium unless the ROM is very similar anyway. Like I was using AOSP on my Z before so I just came in fresh. Less issues down the road
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I've never had an issue switching ROM's being careful to avoid system apps and only restoring the call logs and SMS database, as well as non-system apps.
Everyone is different ☺ I also do nightly backups and sync with Dropbox.
Shudder123 said:
I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
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Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
Would love to see root but for now I can manage quite fine without it... There is less bloatware then with certain other brands and you can uninstall or disable quite a bit.
The few things I WOULD like:
* Completely remove unused system apps
* Change LCD Density (it's all soooo big now)
* Full SDCard read/write access for all apps. (I love quickpic as a gallery, but because I save my pics/vids to sdcard it can not remove anything now)
* Titanium backup. Have never ever had issues with this (only user apps+data for me most of the time) and that's with switching between different roms, brands, aosp/stock, etc... Never failed me
Chefproll said:
Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
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ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
cschmitt said:
ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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Not to mention Xposed and everything it offers.
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ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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ABP (please call it "Adblock Plus" so every readers knows what's meant) does not require root, but it's not too capable running under Android. It does a brilliant job with FireFox and Windows, but the Android implementation only captures a fracture of annoying ads. And: No plugin for defining your own black lists under Android.
AdAway additionally removes annoying ads from a wealth of apps. Just doesn't work without root.
Ok, I can hear you: "If everybody uses that means, app developers won't get paid."
Yes, that's correct.
But:
a) If I really like an app, I'll buy it. Example: Poweramp. NO ads, no annoyance. It just stops working after some time. I regard that as ok. I do NOT like apps getting on my nerves all the time.
My formula is simple: Annoying ads = deinstall, no purchase.
b) A majority of free app developers uses that "evil" ads, appearing at places previously occupied by regular buttons - so you tap on them although you just don't want to.
If that bad behavior gets to a stop, I'll think about disabling AdAway again. Fair play - but on BOTH sides.
So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.
are you root?
reset your phone and do it again, I dont have a problem with it. I'm on 8.1.14
johnomaz said:
So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.
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Zero problems here.
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johnomaz said:
So the two hate each other. I mean HATE. I can't use Package Disabler Pro to disable even a few bloat apps. Facebook, Instagram, Skype. If I use it for anything I get errors all over. Everything Google starts to crash. gapps, google play services, everything. I finally had to enable everything, reboot and my phone stopped crashing and randomly rebooting. Very sad to see PDP become useless. My battery life improved with all the bloat disabled.
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You disabled something that is deep in the system. Since ur testing u have to try 1 at a time over a few hours to see what is up.
I.D.F.W.Y.
Chord_Hugo87 said:
are you root?
No, I'm not rooted. Everything was going smooth until I got the new update to Google Play Services. I found that if you turned off the location services for your phone it would clear up but that only lasted maybe an hour before stuff started up again.
reset your phone and do it again, I dont have a problem with it. I'm on 8.1.14
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BACARDILIMON said:
You disabled something that is deep in the system. Since ur testing u have to try 1 at a time over a few hours to see what is up.
I.D.F.W.Y.
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I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.
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I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.
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i think if u go in with root exploer if u was rooted u find facebook in 2-3 spots. whatsapp gave me issues. i gave up on debloating. i have seen a few debloated roms that the dev went in and manually removed and made things work. freeze apps is no longer as simple as it once was .
I'm using " Disable Application " from the play store... I'm rooted, and it works great. I prefer PDP, but it doesn't work on my rooted rom.
johnomaz said:
I spent several hours yesterday tinkering. Disabling minimal stuff like the social media apps, the ANT service, Milk player and other minor stuff. Every time it would start to crash and give me issues. I disabled the social media items the old fashion way and am not using PDP right now. I'll play with it more today. I really don't want/need many of that crap running as I have zero use for any of it. I will do the one by one and see what happens.
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hmmm weird...I have no problem with it.
If you're rooted, just use titanium backup.
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rlsroufe said:
If you're rooted, just use titanium backup.
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If I root, its when its been confirmed that Samsung Pay will work with one of those new root cloaking apps (one is an xposed module) works for it. If it does, I'll be back on root in no time.
My issue may be my phone. I couldn't get it to respond for anything, error messages that wouldn't go away long enough to type a letter. I factory reset and the error codes kept coming. Its going to be replaced.
dandroid7 said:
I'm using " Disable Application " from the play store... I'm rooted, and it works great. I prefer PDP, but it doesn't work on my rooted rom.
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It always fail when i try to delete stuff why ?
There is other way,
Try to use this app "App Package Disabler (Samsung)" - NO NEED ROOT
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kunkunsoft.packagedisabler
Simple and easy to use
Anyone managed to find a working safe package disabler? I feel all this bloatware is whats really killing my battery even tho I disabled &got rid of what I could. And even turned off the features I wouldn't be using that constantly drain. But I think the processes are still running for example the fingerprint process which I refuse to even use. I'd love to root but I think the tmobile s7 has been done yet.
Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.
sbdadmak said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.
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That one requires root though.
0dBu said:
That one requires root though.
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It works without root, it just doesn't remove them and instead only disables.
The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.
AndroiderM said:
Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore
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It got taken down at this time
nest75068 said:
It got taken down at this time
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Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
mknewman said:
The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.
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It should be noted, that NO, THE BUILT IN ONE does not work fine, and while you mentioned the other tmobile apps, you (probably intentionally) didn't mention the terrible, disable-proof, insulting, MEMORY INTENSIVE harassment of code that is the pointless T mobile "my account" app, with its system monitoring, and permanent notifications you have to jump through hoops to disable.
The fact that I have 200 MORE Samsung apps that I'm forced to run than my vanilla android counter parts is almost as insulting as the fact that Facebook, (and messenger), whatsapp, 5 pointless t mobile apps (2 of which are trials for premium paid features) are considered equally important and can't be uninstalled.
Thats purely asinine, and the watered down built in version does nothing about the services or dependent processes (aka battery consumption and everything else)
The T mobile hidden package "com.tmobile.pr.adapt" is so invasive that it quietly asks for root, the SECOND it detects the binary and DOES SO AGAIN AND AGAIN, OVER AND OVER without us ever getting an explanation...now it even shows up in marshmallow with data usage access... the only reason we know it even exists, or wants root, is supersu pops up, as our battery bottoms out...
Now, package disabler pro is gone from the store..oh wait...is it? Or is it just gone for Samsung devices? Or maybe just T Mobile, Samsung devices? Hrrmmm
No. The built in watered down version which doesn't help us with a package like tmobile.pr.adapt or let us disable every single thing we choose to, is simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
flyingwolf said:
Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
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It's only gone for certain devices...
My Account is not enabled on my S7 unless I start it up myself. The com.tmobile.pr.adapt is enabled but if you disable Diagnostics under App Settings in T-Mobile for me it uses very little data, 14mb in almost a month for me, and T-Mo claims that the usage is not charged to you. You are correct you cannot stop it with the default application manager, but it will not show up in the task bar unless you manually start it.
I'm not going to get into root issues, my phone is on the Jump on Demand so I'm planning to trade up every few months and yeah root is nice but for the most part unless you are a dev (I am not) you shouldn't need it. I'd love to have my copy of Root Explorer and Titanium Backup work (for restores) but can get along without it. If I really needed that stuff I wouldn't have given up my Sony Xperia Z Ultra which was running CM to go to a new unrooted platform.
Hi,
I have been using EZ package disabler since I got my S7 Edge and I am happy with it. Unfortunately, when the software update came, with too much excitement, I forgot to enable all disabled apps prior to updating the firmware. I have updated the firmware with apps disabled. What problem should I be facing? What should I do? Currently I am not experiencing any problems but I suspect that the disabled apps where not optimized. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
You can still find package disabler pro. Won't post the link because forum rules but Google is your best friend. I have it in my SD card.
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How to completely delete stock apps from Galaxy S8 without root access, like Microsoft apps last night I was trying to remove Excel and Powerpoint but I couldn't, looks weird!
Without root you can use the well known app Package Disabler Pro Samsung:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Apps are disabled (removing is not possible) but disappear completely.
themissionimpossible said:
Without root you can use the well known app Package Disabler Pro Samsung:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Apps are disabled (removing is not possible) but disappear completely.
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They will still takes up space yeah?
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These apps are in the system partition and take space there.
Disabling them also doesn't stop them getting updated by "Galaxy Apps". I had powerpoint and word updating themselves yesterday despite the fact I have them both disabled *AND* have turned off automatic updates in Galaxy Apps! (and if that wasn't bad enough, it was using up my mobile data allowance when doing it!!).
ewokuk said:
I had powerpoint and word updating themselves yesterday despite the fact I have them both disabled *AND* have turned off automatic updates in Galaxy Apps!
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You have to permanently disable the Samsung Push Service (the first thing I do), and disable Galaxy Apps and enable it only when needed....
itsmohsink said:
How to completely delete stock apps from Galaxy S8 without root access, like Microsoft apps last night I was trying to remove Excel and Powerpoint but I couldn't, looks weird!
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You can't remove any stock apps without root access. If you can root your S8 then Download Lucky Patcher Apk and you can remove unnecessary stock apps.
ewokuk said:
Disabling them also doesn't stop them getting updated by "Galaxy Apps". I had powerpoint and word updating themselves yesterday despite the fact I have them both disabled *AND* have turned off automatic updates in Galaxy Apps! (and if that wasn't bad enough, it was using up my mobile data allowance when doing it!!).
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I don't understand how they're able to update on your phone even with the option disabled. Since buying my phone two weeks ago I've seen either Samsung apps asking to be updating before being used or the app shows as update is available but never updating on tis own without my permission. You got a rooted phone, or something?
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I don't understand how they're able to update on your phone even with the option disabled. Since buying my phone two weeks ago I've seen either Samsung apps asking to be updating before being used or the app shows as update is available but never updating on tis own without my permission. You got a rooted phone, or something?
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I don't understand either. no, if I was rooted then those apps wouldn't even be on the phone! I haven't spotted it lately so it may have been a bug or something that was fixed (of course Samsung as usual can't be bothered providing proper changelogs so that we have a clue what they have done), but they don't update that often so it might also be that I just didn't see it when it was doing it.
try this one. apps will still take up place in system partition,
but I don't think they will auto update after this.
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Sailor Gerry said:
I don't understand how they're able to update on your phone even with the option disabled. Since buying my phone two weeks ago I've seen either Samsung apps asking to be updating before being used or the app shows as update is available but never updating on tis own without my permission. You got a rooted phone, or something?
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I don't understand either. no, if I was rooted then those apps wouldn't even be on the phone! I haven't spotted it lately so it may have been a bug or something that was fixed (of course Samsung as usual can't be bothered providing proper changelogs so that we have a clue what they have done), but they don't update that often so it might also be that I just didn't see it when it was doing it.
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I have quite a few packages disabled with Package Disabler Pro and have had two system updates without an issue.
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I have quite a few packages disabled with Package Disabler Pro and have had two system updates without an issue.
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That's strange. Also, I'm not using any package disablers. Maybe that's related? The app you're using?
roaduardo said:
That's strange. Also, I'm not using any package disablers. Maybe that's related? The app you're using?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en