Root Without Unlocking Bootloader - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?

No ETA pls
Let's wait

funkyblue04 said:
Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
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There is no "usual" number. Some phones got root before they were even out officially. Some took a few days. Some took over a month. And some end up retired without a safe root option.
First rule of xda: don't ask for eta

I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!

funkyblue04 said:
I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
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I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment

I like to be about to restore all my data and apps with Titanium Backup. So much easier.

wolf0491 said:
I have nothing but force closes when restoring with titanium unless the ROM is very similar anyway. Like I was using AOSP on my Z before so I just came in fresh. Less issues down the road
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I've never had an issue switching ROM's being careful to avoid system apps and only restoring the call logs and SMS database, as well as non-system apps.

Everyone is different ☺ I also do nightly backups and sync with Dropbox.

Shudder123 said:
I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
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Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?

Would love to see root but for now I can manage quite fine without it... There is less bloatware then with certain other brands and you can uninstall or disable quite a bit.
The few things I WOULD like:
* Completely remove unused system apps
* Change LCD Density (it's all soooo big now)
* Full SDCard read/write access for all apps. (I love quickpic as a gallery, but because I save my pics/vids to sdcard it can not remove anything now)
* Titanium backup. Have never ever had issues with this (only user apps+data for me most of the time) and that's with switching between different roms, brands, aosp/stock, etc... Never failed me

Chefproll said:
Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
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ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.

cschmitt said:
ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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Not to mention Xposed and everything it offers.
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cschmitt said:
ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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ABP (please call it "Adblock Plus" so every readers knows what's meant) does not require root, but it's not too capable running under Android. It does a brilliant job with FireFox and Windows, but the Android implementation only captures a fracture of annoying ads. And: No plugin for defining your own black lists under Android.
AdAway additionally removes annoying ads from a wealth of apps. Just doesn't work without root.
Ok, I can hear you: "If everybody uses that means, app developers won't get paid."
Yes, that's correct.
But:
a) If I really like an app, I'll buy it. Example: Poweramp. NO ads, no annoyance. It just stops working after some time. I regard that as ok. I do NOT like apps getting on my nerves all the time.
My formula is simple: Annoying ads = deinstall, no purchase.
b) A majority of free app developers uses that "evil" ads, appearing at places previously occupied by regular buttons - so you tap on them although you just don't want to.
If that bad behavior gets to a stop, I'll think about disabling AdAway again. Fair play - but on BOTH sides.

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[Q] Disable OTA updates possible?

I am trying and getting absolutely nowhere disabling the OTA update nag screen. Even though my phone is rooted I can not disable the OTA update service nor rename the otacerts.zip file (as it still says access is denied.)
Motorola is refusing to help me aswell.
Surely there is a way of doing this?
Any help would be much appriciated.
I disabled the OTA and a whole bunch of other services using Greenify. There is a thread in this forum, with a comprehensive list of services that can be disabled (far more than I disabled). I also disabled some apps from multi tasking. I typically get 3 days of moderate usage. So its a win win situation.
Can u tell me the apps that i can disable to save battery life.
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grahamgo said:
I disabled the OTA and a whole bunch of other services using Greenify. There is a thread in this forum, with a comprehensive list of services that can be disabled (far more than I disabled). I also disabled some apps from multi tasking. I typically get 3 days of moderate usage. So its a win win situation.
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I understand to do this I have to install the xposed framework? Something that does worry me after seeing the dreaded boot loop recently.
I am under the impression from some thread in here, renaming otacerts.zip in the system folder to otacerts.bak can disable the function, but likewise I am a bit worried about bricking my phone. Motorola have informed me that updates are mandatory now and they will not tell me how to disable OTA updates.
The lack of working apps for things like this is also putting me off playing around too.
kartik sehgal said:
Can u tell me the apps that i can disable to save battery life.
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Here is the link hope it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2818992
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I got rid of the nag screen by disabling an app called "motorolaOTA" and erasing the cache in recovery to delete the OTA file. I really wouldn't recommend upgrading to 4.4.4 as I eventually did anyway about a week after disabling the nag screen (wanted to test it out lol) and in the process hard bricked my phone.
So, disable "motorolaOTA" and whatever you do DO NOT upgrade!
kartik sehgal said:
Can u tell me the apps that i can disable to save battery life.
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Sorry, I dont have access to the phone right now so cannot list the services. But I think I fed some miss-information, I now realize that I used Titanium backup to freeze the unwanted apps. This being all Motorola services. I then used Greenify on my messaging apps, like Facebook, Whatsapp and others.
But I do agree with another comment in this thread that rooting does mess up the upgrade process, it becomes a real pain! So its worth considering to not do it. Like others I have not upgraded to 4.4.4
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Sorry, I dont have access to the phone right now so cannot list the services. But I think I fed some miss-information, I now realize that I used Titanium backup to freeze the unwanted apps. This being all Motorola services. I then used Greenify on my messaging apps, like Facebook, Whatsapp and others.
But I do agree with another comment in this thread that rooting does mess up the upgrade process, it becomes a real pain! So its worth considering to not do it. Like others I have not upgraded to 4.4.4
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This helped me with the upgrade (Phone is unlocked, rooted and had xposed modules on it before the upgrade)
For me to succesfully update the OTA i had to do follow the steps in the OP of this Post. I tried a lot of flashing, but in the end only this worked:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/ota-file-indian-dual-sim-4-4-4-t2810166
Just follow the steps below the text:
REVERT TO STOCK WITHOUT LOSING DATA OR ANYTHING ELSE
After this, you have to root it again with superboot. It's worth the effort to have 4.4.4. The phone feels more responsive for me.
Problem Solved!
I installed "System app remover (ROOT) by Jumobile". Its a free app in the google play store. This allowed me to uninstall Motorola OTA service.
The upgrade nag screen has yet to re-appear, and my phone is otherwise functioning perfectly.
Well done! I had never heard of this app, it looks neat. I use Titanium primarily for backups, the ability to freeze apps is just a nice bonus. I wonder if Titanium and "System app remover" work using the same method? With Titanium its easy to restore a frozen app. I read that "System app remover" puts removed apps in the recycle bin. I'm wondering what the chances are of this storage getting erased by accident, making it harder to restore?

security concerns migrating from iOs to Android

As title suggests, coming from a so called "clean" iOS environment to Android, my main concern how susceptible is my data to being stolen. I have no (current) plans to root my next phone and will be used mainly from business, but from what I have read in the past even google play store apps have been to known to have malicious content. Am I worrying too much ? I do carry sensitive work data on my iPhone.
applefag said:
As title suggests, coming from a so called "clean" iOS environment to Android, my main concern how susceptible is my data to being stolen. I have no (current) plans to root my next phone and will be used mainly from business, but from what I have read in the past even google play store apps have been to known to have malicious content. Am I worrying too much ? I do carry sensitive work data on my iPhone.
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As long as the apps you install are from known sources (i.e. Play Store) you don't need to worry. Also every time you download an app check the permissions. If you think that the app shouldn't have those permissions then don't download it. Finally for safety reasons never install any apps from unknown sources (i.e. outside of Play Store) unless you trust the developer.
If you still find yourself worrying read this.
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Am I worrying too much ?
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Yep
I think you won't install any app outside Google Play so install apps that you know and you won't need to worry. FYI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux
kalpetros said:
Also every time you download an app check the permissions. If you think that the app shouldn't have those permissions then don't download it.
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Well only if you are sure. Sometimes apps need permissions that aren't justified for some people.
for the open nature of the android ecosystem, it is somewhat normal that you will have to be careful though there are several different techniques, i use this the most.
Root your phone, install xposed framework and install xprivacy. here is a review of what it does http://www.xda-developers.com/android/manage-individual-app-permissions-with-xprivacy/ . I know the installation pprocess may seem daunting, but it is easier than you think this module wil allow you to block apps of certain permission. IE. you can block location service for all the apps on your phone so that no app can get your location. There are bunch of other permissions that you can block like access to contact, gallery etc
My question to others is : Is antivirus application on android worth it? I mean can it protect me from real time attaks and malwares??
SaffatBokul said:
My question to others is : Is antivirus application on android worth it? I mean can it protect me from real time attaks and malwares??
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Not useful IMO. FYI I remember this article.
User sensibility is your best defense. Don't install apps not from the market. Only install apps with a lot of positive comments.
I would advise again rooting your phone. It's true that there are ways to block apps from accessing your private data on a rooted phone, but the additional vulnerability from unlocking your bootloader and rooting is not worth it. Just stick to apps from major developers.
snapper.fishes said:
User sensibility is your best defense. Don't install apps not from the market. Only install apps with a lot of positive comments.
I would advise again rooting your phone. It's true that there are ways to block apps from accessing your private data on a rooted phone, but the additional vulnerability from unlocking your bootloader and rooting is not worth it. Just stick to apps from major developers.
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I agree, rooting your phone comprimises your security even if you do it to install security apps.
Primokorn said:
Yep
I think you won't install any app outside Google Play so install apps that you know and you won't need to worry.
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Unfortunately, new apps in Google Play are rarely verified by Google staff, so there is still always a possibility of trojan or other malware.

A working package disabler?

Anyone managed to find a working safe package disabler? I feel all this bloatware is whats really killing my battery even tho I disabled &got rid of what I could. And even turned off the features I wouldn't be using that constantly drain. But I think the processes are still running for example the fingerprint process which I refuse to even use. I'd love to root but I think the tmobile s7 has been done yet.
Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.
sbdadmak said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.
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That one requires root though.
0dBu said:
That one requires root though.
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It works without root, it just doesn't remove them and instead only disables.
The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.
AndroiderM said:
Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore
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It got taken down at this time
nest75068 said:
It got taken down at this time
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Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
mknewman said:
The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.
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It should be noted, that NO, THE BUILT IN ONE does not work fine, and while you mentioned the other tmobile apps, you (probably intentionally) didn't mention the terrible, disable-proof, insulting, MEMORY INTENSIVE harassment of code that is the pointless T mobile "my account" app, with its system monitoring, and permanent notifications you have to jump through hoops to disable.
The fact that I have 200 MORE Samsung apps that I'm forced to run than my vanilla android counter parts is almost as insulting as the fact that Facebook, (and messenger), whatsapp, 5 pointless t mobile apps (2 of which are trials for premium paid features) are considered equally important and can't be uninstalled.
Thats purely asinine, and the watered down built in version does nothing about the services or dependent processes (aka battery consumption and everything else)
The T mobile hidden package "com.tmobile.pr.adapt" is so invasive that it quietly asks for root, the SECOND it detects the binary and DOES SO AGAIN AND AGAIN, OVER AND OVER without us ever getting an explanation...now it even shows up in marshmallow with data usage access... the only reason we know it even exists, or wants root, is supersu pops up, as our battery bottoms out...
Now, package disabler pro is gone from the store..oh wait...is it? Or is it just gone for Samsung devices? Or maybe just T Mobile, Samsung devices? Hrrmmm
No. The built in watered down version which doesn't help us with a package like tmobile.pr.adapt or let us disable every single thing we choose to, is simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
flyingwolf said:
Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
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It's only gone for certain devices...
My Account is not enabled on my S7 unless I start it up myself. The com.tmobile.pr.adapt is enabled but if you disable Diagnostics under App Settings in T-Mobile for me it uses very little data, 14mb in almost a month for me, and T-Mo claims that the usage is not charged to you. You are correct you cannot stop it with the default application manager, but it will not show up in the task bar unless you manually start it.
I'm not going to get into root issues, my phone is on the Jump on Demand so I'm planning to trade up every few months and yeah root is nice but for the most part unless you are a dev (I am not) you shouldn't need it. I'd love to have my copy of Root Explorer and Titanium Backup work (for restores) but can get along without it. If I really needed that stuff I wouldn't have given up my Sony Xperia Z Ultra which was running CM to go to a new unrooted platform.
Hi,
I have been using EZ package disabler since I got my S7 Edge and I am happy with it. Unfortunately, when the software update came, with too much excitement, I forgot to enable all disabled apps prior to updating the firmware. I have updated the firmware with apps disabled. What problem should I be facing? What should I do? Currently I am not experiencing any problems but I suspect that the disabled apps where not optimized. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
You can still find package disabler pro. Won't post the link because forum rules but Google is your best friend. I have it in my SD card.
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Request sticky for package disabler pro safe to remove apps

Maybe have a couple reserved replies for different carriers?
i just did disable bloatware, i have no issues so far
unitz0mbie said:
i just did disable bloatware, i have no issues so far
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That's what we all want to do. Which carrier are you on and what did you disable that allows you to have no issues?
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burrzoo said:
That's what we all want to do. Which carrier are you on and what did you disable that allows you to have no issues?
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att variant with cricket sim, i just did disable all bloatware option in the app itself and i have no issues
Rather than a bunch of XML files from people that think it works FOR THEM, we need one big list of the packages WITH EXPLANATIONS as to what exactly they do, and any dependencies they may have that could break other stuff. Without that its all a waste of time. I've seen several threads like this now but not one was of any use at all because its just people posting an xml saying 'look at me i disabled 94 packages", which means nothing to anyone else who might need some of the stuff they disabled, or might not even have some of the stuff they disabled if its carrier specific.
I have no issue going down the list on my phone one at a time to see if it needs disabling, the problem is for a lot of them, I have no clue what they do, and googling them using the link form within the app didnt help at all. I am not going to disable something unless i know exactly what it does, I don't want to find out in 3 months time that something isnt working and spend forever trying to figure out why, at least if i know what each disabled thing does then i will remember that i had turned it off, i can refer back to the notes on what each one does and turn that one back on.
unitz0mbie said:
i just did disable bloatware, i have no issues so far
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Held my breath and did the same....All is well on att variant.
paniro187 said:
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so all this has been went over in the s7 forum multiple times if you do a Google search the info pops up everywhere. it will be the same for s8 since they are both on 7.0. Also debloat lists are different for everyone you may use something I don't...but there are plenty of safe apps to remove lists. Side note package disabler auto debloat has about 3 to 5 things you shouldn't turn off like the enterprise stuff and a couple others.
I also did disable all bloatware. However, I noticed it misses a lot of crapware on the phone. I ended up disabling another 30 or so myself. I'm sure I missed some and when I ha e time I will continue. I don't disable anything without knowing exactly what it is so it's very slow work
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Tigerhoods said:
so all this has been went over in the s7 forum multiple times if you do a Google search the info pops up everywhere. it will be the same for s8 since they are both on 7.0. Also debloat lists are different for everyone you may use something I don't...but there are plenty of safe apps to remove lists. Side note package disabler auto debloat has about 3 to 5 things you shouldn't turn off like the enterprise stuff and a couple others.
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Different phone. So excuse me for not expecting there to be some apps added or deleted. That might be needed or may not be. So kindly get fu-cked
djxn40 said:
I also did disable all bloatware. However, I noticed it misses a lot of crapware on the phone. I ended up disabling another 30 or so myself. I'm sure I missed some and when I ha e time I will continue. I don't disable anything without knowing exactly what it is so it's very slow work
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Like which ones.
paniro187 said:
Like which ones.
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I'll try to make a list in the next day or so but first I used the disable all bloatware feature. Then I added about 30 more myself. As the disable all bloatware disables roughly 70 general bloatware processes/apps
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djxn40 said:
I'll try to make a list in the next day or so but first I used the disable all bloatware feature. Then I added about 30 more myself. As the disable all bloatware disables roughly 70 general bloatware processes/apps
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Thank you
Disabling all bloatware also disables some apps/services that some wouldn't consider, like certain camera modes.
Hello Gang! I just wanted to point out a couple of my findings from my note 7/note 5 when using package disablers..
They can do more harm then good. Especially when disabling system APKS. Over time I would notice I was losing space because some aps were just creating error logs over and over and over.. Or trying to access apps over and over that have been disabled.
The best way to do things is to go into app manager and disable the bloatware ONLY. This is facebook,NFL, verizon apps, etc. Do not disable anything system related other then the updates if you want to stop getting updates but even then I believe that might cause some issues. I have currently used package disabler to disable ONLY the "samsung update" apks and manaully disabled or removed the bloatware from verizon via app manager and have been going a week strong with 0 issues that everyone else seems to have and over 170+ apps installed and enabled.
I have done EXTENSIVE testing on this matter. You can search the note 7 and note 5 verizon forums if you wish to check my creds =D
Just be careful. We found out with the S7 that disabling certain packages actually caused an increase in battery drain. What happens is that a certain process keeps pinging another process over and over again because it's not getting an answer in return.
I would recommend disabling 5 packages at a time and see what kind of effect it has on things.
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ars0n said:
Hello Gang! I just wanted to point out a couple of my findings from my note 7/note 5 when using package disablers..
They can do more harm then good. Especially when disabling system APKS. Over time I would notice I was losing space because some aps were just creating error logs over and over and over.. Or trying to access apps over and over that have been disabled.
The best way to do things is to go into app manager and disable the bloatware ONLY. This is facebook,NFL, verizon apps, etc. Do not disable anything system related other then the updates if you want to stop getting updates but even then I believe that might cause some issues. I have currently used package disabler to disable ONLY the "samsung update" apks and manaully disabled or removed the bloatware from verizon via app manager and have been going a week strong with 0 issues that everyone else seems to have and over 170+ apps installed and enabled.
I have done EXTENSIVE testing on this matter. You can search the note 7 and note 5 verizon forums if you wish to check my creds =D
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Could you tell me where to look for error logs to see if this is happening? That sounds like it could cause major battery drain.
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If you click disable all bloat ware it disable the external media package which then makes it where you cannot access your sd card
You cant jus blindly disabled the stuff that package disabler has classed as bloatware and coloured pink because some of it is CLEARLY not bloatware and a lotof the bloatware is not even coloured pink.
What we need to know (still) is what ones are safe to disable, and what ones are NOT safe to disable. There are 4 ANT services it has coloured pink, i am not sure what they are but stuff to do with antennas doesnt sound like bloatware to me? I disabled them anyway and not noticed anything bad. I left all the knox stuff enabled because i use Secure Folder and I expect it needs all the knox stuff to work.
I have disabled things like DEX, bixby, S Health, anything to do with Edge stuff, blue light filter which i dont need, carmode stub (for some drivelink car thing that i dont have), the clock, "CNN for edge panel" which is obviously bloat but isnt even coloured pink, enterprise sim pin services, enterprise vpn servcices, epdgtestapp, anything to do with Gear VR, google play music, gooogle play movies and tv, nfc service, photos, professional audio. and the obvious bloatware like excel etc.
My battery life is good, but now im worried something might be creating logs and filling up my space!
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You cant jus blindly disabled the stuff that package disabler has classed as bloatware and coloured pink because some of it is CLEARLY not bloatware and a lotof the bloatware is not even coloured pink.
What we need to know (still) is what ones are safe to disable, and what ones are NOT safe to disable. There are 4 ANT services it has coloured pink, i am not sure what they are but stuff to do with antennas doesnt sound like bloatware to me? I disabled them anyway and not noticed anything bad. I left all the knox stuff enabled because i use Secure Folder and I expect it needs all the knox stuff to work.
I have disabled things like DEX, bixby, S Health, anything to do with Edge stuff, blue light filter which i dont need, carmode stub (for some drivelink car thing that i dont have), the clock, "CNN for edge panel" which is obviously bloat but isnt even coloured pink, enterprise sim pin services, enterprise vpn servcices, epdgtestapp, anything to do with Gear VR, google play music, gooogle play movies and tv, nfc service, photos, professional audio. and the obvious bloatware like excel etc.
My battery life is good, but now im worried something might be creating logs and filling up my space!
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I disabled all things that said att at this point.
ars0n said:
Hello Gang! I just wanted to point out a couple of my findings from my note 7/note 5 when using package disablers..
They can do more harm then good. Especially when disabling system APKS. Over time I would notice I was losing space because some aps were just creating error logs over and over and over.. Or trying to access apps over and over that have been disabled.
The best way to do things is to go into app manager and disable the bloatware ONLY. This is facebook,NFL, verizon apps, etc. Do not disable anything system related other then the updates if you want to stop getting updates but even then I believe that might cause some issues. I have currently used package disabler to disable ONLY the "samsung update" apks and manaully disabled or removed the bloatware from verizon via app manager and have been going a week strong with 0 issues that everyone else seems to have and over 170+ apps installed and enabled.
I have done EXTENSIVE testing on this matter. You can search the note 7 and note 5 verizon forums if you wish to check my creds =D
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This is dead on. Unless you know exactly what dependancies the app is that you are using package disabler depends on, you are going to do a lot more harm than good. This phone sleeps apps not used after a few days and the rest you need to be very careful with killing, because the phone could check for the app or an app that depends on it could check over and over and over, causing slowdowns, powerloss etc.

How to completely delete stock apps without root

How to completely delete stock apps from Galaxy S8 without root access, like Microsoft apps last night I was trying to remove Excel and Powerpoint but I couldn't, looks weird!
Without root you can use the well known app Package Disabler Pro Samsung:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Apps are disabled (removing is not possible) but disappear completely.
themissionimpossible said:
Without root you can use the well known app Package Disabler Pro Samsung:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Apps are disabled (removing is not possible) but disappear completely.
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They will still takes up space yeah?
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These apps are in the system partition and take space there.
Disabling them also doesn't stop them getting updated by "Galaxy Apps". I had powerpoint and word updating themselves yesterday despite the fact I have them both disabled *AND* have turned off automatic updates in Galaxy Apps! (and if that wasn't bad enough, it was using up my mobile data allowance when doing it!!).
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I had powerpoint and word updating themselves yesterday despite the fact I have them both disabled *AND* have turned off automatic updates in Galaxy Apps!
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You have to permanently disable the Samsung Push Service (the first thing I do), and disable Galaxy Apps and enable it only when needed....
itsmohsink said:
How to completely delete stock apps from Galaxy S8 without root access, like Microsoft apps last night I was trying to remove Excel and Powerpoint but I couldn't, looks weird!
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You can't remove any stock apps without root access. If you can root your S8 then Download Lucky Patcher Apk and you can remove unnecessary stock apps.
ewokuk said:
Disabling them also doesn't stop them getting updated by "Galaxy Apps". I had powerpoint and word updating themselves yesterday despite the fact I have them both disabled *AND* have turned off automatic updates in Galaxy Apps! (and if that wasn't bad enough, it was using up my mobile data allowance when doing it!!).
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I don't understand how they're able to update on your phone even with the option disabled. Since buying my phone two weeks ago I've seen either Samsung apps asking to be updating before being used or the app shows as update is available but never updating on tis own without my permission. You got a rooted phone, or something?
Sailor Gerry said:
I don't understand how they're able to update on your phone even with the option disabled. Since buying my phone two weeks ago I've seen either Samsung apps asking to be updating before being used or the app shows as update is available but never updating on tis own without my permission. You got a rooted phone, or something?
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I don't understand either. no, if I was rooted then those apps wouldn't even be on the phone! I haven't spotted it lately so it may have been a bug or something that was fixed (of course Samsung as usual can't be bothered providing proper changelogs so that we have a clue what they have done), but they don't update that often so it might also be that I just didn't see it when it was doing it.
try this one. apps will still take up place in system partition,
but I don't think they will auto update after this.
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Sailor Gerry said:
I don't understand how they're able to update on your phone even with the option disabled. Since buying my phone two weeks ago I've seen either Samsung apps asking to be updating before being used or the app shows as update is available but never updating on tis own without my permission. You got a rooted phone, or something?
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ewokuk said:
I don't understand either. no, if I was rooted then those apps wouldn't even be on the phone! I haven't spotted it lately so it may have been a bug or something that was fixed (of course Samsung as usual can't be bothered providing proper changelogs so that we have a clue what they have done), but they don't update that often so it might also be that I just didn't see it when it was doing it.
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I have quite a few packages disabled with Package Disabler Pro and have had two system updates without an issue.
ggrant3876 said:
I have quite a few packages disabled with Package Disabler Pro and have had two system updates without an issue.
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That's strange. Also, I'm not using any package disablers. Maybe that's related? The app you're using?
roaduardo said:
That's strange. Also, I'm not using any package disablers. Maybe that's related? The app you're using?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en

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