[Q] Disable OTA updates possible? - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am trying and getting absolutely nowhere disabling the OTA update nag screen. Even though my phone is rooted I can not disable the OTA update service nor rename the otacerts.zip file (as it still says access is denied.)
Motorola is refusing to help me aswell.
Surely there is a way of doing this?
Any help would be much appriciated.

I disabled the OTA and a whole bunch of other services using Greenify. There is a thread in this forum, with a comprehensive list of services that can be disabled (far more than I disabled). I also disabled some apps from multi tasking. I typically get 3 days of moderate usage. So its a win win situation.

Can u tell me the apps that i can disable to save battery life.
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grahamgo said:
I disabled the OTA and a whole bunch of other services using Greenify. There is a thread in this forum, with a comprehensive list of services that can be disabled (far more than I disabled). I also disabled some apps from multi tasking. I typically get 3 days of moderate usage. So its a win win situation.
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I understand to do this I have to install the xposed framework? Something that does worry me after seeing the dreaded boot loop recently.
I am under the impression from some thread in here, renaming otacerts.zip in the system folder to otacerts.bak can disable the function, but likewise I am a bit worried about bricking my phone. Motorola have informed me that updates are mandatory now and they will not tell me how to disable OTA updates.
The lack of working apps for things like this is also putting me off playing around too.

kartik sehgal said:
Can u tell me the apps that i can disable to save battery life.
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Here is the link hope it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2818992
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I got rid of the nag screen by disabling an app called "motorolaOTA" and erasing the cache in recovery to delete the OTA file. I really wouldn't recommend upgrading to 4.4.4 as I eventually did anyway about a week after disabling the nag screen (wanted to test it out lol) and in the process hard bricked my phone.
So, disable "motorolaOTA" and whatever you do DO NOT upgrade!

kartik sehgal said:
Can u tell me the apps that i can disable to save battery life.
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Sorry, I dont have access to the phone right now so cannot list the services. But I think I fed some miss-information, I now realize that I used Titanium backup to freeze the unwanted apps. This being all Motorola services. I then used Greenify on my messaging apps, like Facebook, Whatsapp and others.
But I do agree with another comment in this thread that rooting does mess up the upgrade process, it becomes a real pain! So its worth considering to not do it. Like others I have not upgraded to 4.4.4

grahamgo said:
Sorry, I dont have access to the phone right now so cannot list the services. But I think I fed some miss-information, I now realize that I used Titanium backup to freeze the unwanted apps. This being all Motorola services. I then used Greenify on my messaging apps, like Facebook, Whatsapp and others.
But I do agree with another comment in this thread that rooting does mess up the upgrade process, it becomes a real pain! So its worth considering to not do it. Like others I have not upgraded to 4.4.4
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This helped me with the upgrade (Phone is unlocked, rooted and had xposed modules on it before the upgrade)
For me to succesfully update the OTA i had to do follow the steps in the OP of this Post. I tried a lot of flashing, but in the end only this worked:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/ota-file-indian-dual-sim-4-4-4-t2810166
Just follow the steps below the text:
REVERT TO STOCK WITHOUT LOSING DATA OR ANYTHING ELSE
After this, you have to root it again with superboot. It's worth the effort to have 4.4.4. The phone feels more responsive for me.

Problem Solved!
I installed "System app remover (ROOT) by Jumobile". Its a free app in the google play store. This allowed me to uninstall Motorola OTA service.
The upgrade nag screen has yet to re-appear, and my phone is otherwise functioning perfectly.

Well done! I had never heard of this app, it looks neat. I use Titanium primarily for backups, the ability to freeze apps is just a nice bonus. I wonder if Titanium and "System app remover" work using the same method? With Titanium its easy to restore a frozen app. I read that "System app remover" puts removed apps in the recycle bin. I'm wondering what the chances are of this storage getting erased by accident, making it harder to restore?

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Bloatware issues w/LG Motion

(Thanks to this forum) I successfully rooted my new LG Motion. However once I deleted the bloatware via ROM Toolbox Pro and rebooted; my phone said something along the lines of security violation under the LG logo and would not boot.. I fixed that problem and it's back to working and rooted again, however I still have bloatware bogging me down.
All I want to delete are the metro pcs useless apps and some extra Google crap like Google play books, movies, music, etc... Can I freeze these apps without making my cell a paperweight? Or can I delete them another way? The a ton...
–Rob
I think most of the google apps are important. But should be fine with removing carrier apps.
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Thanks but I am paranoid now... I use my Motion for work too, so I can't risk deleting carrier apps until someone is absolutely positive.. It's a pain in the *app and takes to long to fix it if it bugs out, again, ya know?
Yet at the same time I don't want all that crap on my phone...
Has anyone with an lg motion successfully deleted the bloatware?
Flashing a custom rom is the most effective way to remove bloatware from your device.
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Domoo said:
Flashing a custom rom is the most effective way to remove bloatware from your device.
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Ok great. Now is there a "full-functioning" rom for the LG Motion? I've Googled it & only found one, which had not been able to use the text messaging. Any help is greatly appreciated.

[Q] - Stupid Question - I'm Rooted and Removed Write Protection...How Do I De-Bloat?

I've got a Maxx on 12.15.15 that I successfully ran RockMyMoto as well as MotoWpNoMo but I can't figure out how to remove the bloat from the phone. Also, what other cool things can I do now?
Go to Play Store, purchase Titanium Backup Pro..the app. will freeze, uninstall, backup all your apps in a click or two, (after setup on your device) or it will backup one app at a time of your choice..without Root, SafeStrap, Root Explorer, Titanium Backup Pro, a device is so limited, the XT1080M has awesome power, once it's unleashed with the above mentioned apps..and SafeStrap, I cannot bear to think, not having SS..but Root (as you are) must be obtained first..Rooting your device opened up a whole new, way more powerful device..You will not regret gaining Root..
Advice..stay on 4.2.2_12.15.15..wait until KK is proven stable, and can be Rooted (if ever)..KK can be rooted now..but flaming hoops have to be jumped thru to gain Root..and the chance of bricking your device is very high..once on KK, there is no return to JB..
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RockMyMoto Root..SafeStrap v3.65
XT1080M (aka) Droid Maxx
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NWKENT said:
Go to Play Store, purchase Titanium Backup Pro..the app. will freeze, uninstall, backup all your apps in a click or two, (after setup on your device) or it will backup one app at a time of your choice..without Root, SafeStrap, Root Explorer, Titanium Backup Pro, a device is so limited, the XT1080M has awesome power, once it's unleashed with the above mentioned apps..and SafeStrap, I cannot bear to think, not having SS..but Root (as you are) must be obtained first..Rooting your device opened up a whole new, way more powerful device..You will not regret gaining Root..
Advice..stay on 4.2.2_12.15.15..wait until KK is proven stable, and can be Rooted (if ever)..KK can be rooted now..but flaming hoops have to be jumped thru to gain Root..and the chance of bricking your device is very high..once on KK, there is no return to JB..
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RockMyMoto Root..SafeStrap v3.65
XT1080M (aka) Droid Maxx
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Please donate to: jcase & Hashcode (if you can)
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Thanks for the info on this Last night I did install and run TB in order to uninstall specific apps, however when I look in the app section of settings it seems they are still there, they have just been moved into the "SD" card. Does this mean they are gone or did I do something wrong? I hadn't heard of SafeStrap before so thanks for the heads up, I'll look into that now.
Bumpin'
AlmostTactful said:
Thanks for the info on this Last night I did install and run TB in order to uninstall specific apps, however when I look in the app section of settings it seems they are still there, they have just been moved into the "SD" card. Does this mean they are gone or did I do something wrong? I hadn't heard of SafeStrap before so thanks for the heads up, I'll look into that now.
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Make sure you have TB setup properly..to uninstall..Also..be sure to reboot your device..many apps that uninstall..need to recollect / refresh your system information, such as apps..
Another app. I use is "Easy Uninstaller Pro"
Another way, is with system settings..do this >> settings \Apps\scroll to right to > All ..then choose the app to uninstall..
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I'll look into my TB settings again. However when I goto the apps I want to uninstall via the settings and app section, imdb mobile for example, doesn't have an uninstall option
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Anyone?
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AlmostTactful said:
I'll look into my TB settings again. However when I goto the apps I want to uninstall via the settings and app section, imdb mobile for example, doesn't have an uninstall option
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I just got my Droid Maxx and have not rooted it yet. But I have used TB a lot on other devices. Just my preference but I never uninstall. I just freeze the stuff I don't want. The reason being I've had a couple of instances in the past where I thought I didn't need something but doing away with it killed something unexpected. For example on my old phone (Droid 3) I figured I did not need the built in voice mail app because I had my voice mail set to go to Google Voice. But I quickly discovered that freezing the built in voice mail also caused the dialer to not work...so I couldn't make any calls. But since it was just frozen, all I had to do was unfreeze it. . Another example is when I froze the camera app because I was using a third party app. With the built in camera app frozen, the video camera app didn't work either. I have no clue why but it must be reliant on the built in camera app somehow. Not being a developer myself, I don't always (make that usually don't) understand the inter-dependencies so freezing is a quick, simple, and completely safe method that gets the job done and is easy to undo any changes that cause a problem.
Sorry I can't help you with uninstall since I don't do that.
ratman6161 said:
I just got my Droid Maxx and have not rooted it yet. But I have used TB a lot on other devices. Just my preference but I never uninstall. I just freeze the stuff I don't want. The reason being I've had a couple of instances in the past where I thought I didn't need something but doing away with it killed something unexpected. For example on my old phone (Droid 3) I figured I did not need the built in voice mail app because I had my voice mail set to go to Google Voice. But I quickly discovered that freezing the built in voice mail also caused the dialer to not work...so I couldn't make any calls. But since it was just frozen, all I had to do was unfreeze it. . Another example is when I froze the camera app because I was using a third party app. With the built in camera app frozen, the video camera app didn't work either. I have no clue why but it must be reliant on the built in camera app somehow. Not being a developer myself, I don't always (make that usually don't) understand the inter-dependencies so freezing is a quick, simple, and completely safe method that gets the job done and is easy to undo any changes that cause a problem.
Sorry I can't help you with uninstall since I don't do that.
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No need to apologize at all! Thanks for the input you've given, the thread has almost 150 views and only a few people have taken a moment to reply so I'm thankful for that in itself I'll look into freezing as well. As long as it removes it from my app list and it makes sure it won't run in the back ground, I'm happy with that!
AlmostTactful said:
No need to apologize at all! Thanks for the input you've given, the thread has almost 150 views and only a few people have taken a moment to reply so I'm thankful for that in itself I'll look into freezing as well. As long as it removes it from my app list and it makes sure it won't run in the back ground, I'm happy with that!
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I used to delete the system apps as well bit I don't bother anymore and here is why. Your system partition is separate from the SD partition meaning if you have say 20 gigs on SD and delete a gig of system apps your SD memeory won't increase. All it will do is make the OS smaller but it doesn't matter you can't use that memory anyway. Just freeze what you don't need and forget about it.

Root Without Unlocking Bootloader

Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
No ETA pls
Let's wait
funkyblue04 said:
Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
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There is no "usual" number. Some phones got root before they were even out officially. Some took a few days. Some took over a month. And some end up retired without a safe root option.
First rule of xda: don't ask for eta
I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
funkyblue04 said:
I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
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I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
I like to be about to restore all my data and apps with Titanium Backup. So much easier.
wolf0491 said:
I have nothing but force closes when restoring with titanium unless the ROM is very similar anyway. Like I was using AOSP on my Z before so I just came in fresh. Less issues down the road
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I've never had an issue switching ROM's being careful to avoid system apps and only restoring the call logs and SMS database, as well as non-system apps.
Everyone is different ☺ I also do nightly backups and sync with Dropbox.
Shudder123 said:
I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
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Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
Would love to see root but for now I can manage quite fine without it... There is less bloatware then with certain other brands and you can uninstall or disable quite a bit.
The few things I WOULD like:
* Completely remove unused system apps
* Change LCD Density (it's all soooo big now)
* Full SDCard read/write access for all apps. (I love quickpic as a gallery, but because I save my pics/vids to sdcard it can not remove anything now)
* Titanium backup. Have never ever had issues with this (only user apps+data for me most of the time) and that's with switching between different roms, brands, aosp/stock, etc... Never failed me
Chefproll said:
Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
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ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
cschmitt said:
ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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Not to mention Xposed and everything it offers.
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cschmitt said:
ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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ABP (please call it "Adblock Plus" so every readers knows what's meant) does not require root, but it's not too capable running under Android. It does a brilliant job with FireFox and Windows, but the Android implementation only captures a fracture of annoying ads. And: No plugin for defining your own black lists under Android.
AdAway additionally removes annoying ads from a wealth of apps. Just doesn't work without root.
Ok, I can hear you: "If everybody uses that means, app developers won't get paid."
Yes, that's correct.
But:
a) If I really like an app, I'll buy it. Example: Poweramp. NO ads, no annoyance. It just stops working after some time. I regard that as ok. I do NOT like apps getting on my nerves all the time.
My formula is simple: Annoying ads = deinstall, no purchase.
b) A majority of free app developers uses that "evil" ads, appearing at places previously occupied by regular buttons - so you tap on them although you just don't want to.
If that bad behavior gets to a stop, I'll think about disabling AdAway again. Fair play - but on BOTH sides.

Lag problems

So I recently rooted my LS996 in an attempt to remove bloatware and try and improve performance but it seems like it's doing even worse now? Any ideas on how I can fix this? I can't even run Google Maps and Google Play Music at the same time without one or the other closing out. I can't seem to improve performance using any method. I'm running 5.1.1 zv8
Did remove anything crucial? And the phone is likely kicking apps due to low memory.
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Ace42 said:
Did remove anything crucial? And the phone is likely kicking apps due to low memory.
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I haven't removed anything. I've disabled some google apps and stock voice-to-text/voice command services to force Google Now as primary. Any suggestions on what I can/should delete or disable? I was looking in to disabling some cores but that only looks like it improves run temps.
I'm nearly at my wits end here. I can't nav to save my life and driving in silence is a total pain.
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Franglestine said:
I haven't removed anything. I've disabled some google apps and stock voice-to-text/voice command services to force Google Now as primary. Any suggestions on what I can/should delete or disable? I was looking in to disabling some cores but that only looks like it improves run temps.
I'm nearly at my wits end here. I can't nav to save my life and driving in silence is a total pain.
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If you upgraded all the way from 5.0.1 ZV5 to ZV8 without doing a hard reset before rooting this might be your problem.
Something similar happened to me and then what I did was with each update I hard reset my device to have a clean install of the update.
Im on ZV8 rooted and I got no lag, just removed Gapps like playbooks newstand movies and the non crucial apps.
If you wish to disable apps use TITANIUM, never disable them or uninstall them directly from root browser or whatever.
That could result on a bootloop or a no boot of the OS.
Good luck :good:
Alex_XV6700 said:
If you upgraded all the way from 5.0.1 ZV5 to ZV8 without doing a hard reset before rooting this might be your problem.
Something similar happened to me and then what I did was with each update I hard reset my device to have a clean install of the update.
Im on ZV8 rooted and I got no lag, just removed Gapps like playbooks newstand movies and the non crucial apps.
If you wish to disable apps use TITANIUM, never disable them or uninstall them directly from root browser or whatever.
That could result on a bootloop or a no boot of the OS.
Good luck :good:
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I did a reset about a week or so before the root. I've never rooted this before. What are some good non crucial apps to disable? Would resetting my phone after the root remove the root?
Franglestine said:
I haven't removed anything. I've disabled some google apps and stock voice-to-text/voice command services to force Google Now as primary. Any suggestions on what I can/should delete or disable? I was looking in to disabling some cores but that only looks like it improves run temps.
I'm nearly at my wits end here. I can't nav to save my life and driving in silence is a total pain.
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This is most of what I disabled.
http://imgur.com/8Adk7XS
http://imgur.com/temcUOZ
http://imgur.com/iUQBsp6
http://imgur.com/1oEJAtC
http://imgur.com/iVErqaF
http://imgur.com/6WOn6MD
http://imgur.com/YQwsFkl
http://imgur.com/Z8xj1g0
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Ace42 said:
This is most of what I disabled.
http://imgur.com/8Adk7XS
http://imgur.com/temcUOZ
http://imgur.com/iUQBsp6
http://imgur.com/1oEJAtC
http://imgur.com/iVErqaF
http://imgur.com/6WOn6MD
http://imgur.com/YQwsFkl
http://imgur.com/Z8xj1g0
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Do you have any other suggestions on an app to use to disable all these? I know someone suggested Titanium Backup but I don't want to spend $6 for the pro version just so I can freeze apps.
Franglestine said:
Do you have any other suggestions on an app to use to disable all these? I know someone suggested Titanium Backup but I don't want to spend $6 for the pro version just so I can freeze apps.
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3C toolbox.
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Ace42 said:
3C toolbox.
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Well, @Ace42, I just froze several apps and performance seems to have improved, we'll see how this goes. Thanks for the help man, I appreciate it.

A working package disabler?

Anyone managed to find a working safe package disabler? I feel all this bloatware is whats really killing my battery even tho I disabled &got rid of what I could. And even turned off the features I wouldn't be using that constantly drain. But I think the processes are still running for example the fingerprint process which I refuse to even use. I'd love to root but I think the tmobile s7 has been done yet.
Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.
sbdadmak said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.
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That one requires root though.
0dBu said:
That one requires root though.
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It works without root, it just doesn't remove them and instead only disables.
The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.
AndroiderM said:
Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore
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It got taken down at this time
nest75068 said:
It got taken down at this time
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Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
mknewman said:
The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.
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It should be noted, that NO, THE BUILT IN ONE does not work fine, and while you mentioned the other tmobile apps, you (probably intentionally) didn't mention the terrible, disable-proof, insulting, MEMORY INTENSIVE harassment of code that is the pointless T mobile "my account" app, with its system monitoring, and permanent notifications you have to jump through hoops to disable.
The fact that I have 200 MORE Samsung apps that I'm forced to run than my vanilla android counter parts is almost as insulting as the fact that Facebook, (and messenger), whatsapp, 5 pointless t mobile apps (2 of which are trials for premium paid features) are considered equally important and can't be uninstalled.
Thats purely asinine, and the watered down built in version does nothing about the services or dependent processes (aka battery consumption and everything else)
The T mobile hidden package "com.tmobile.pr.adapt" is so invasive that it quietly asks for root, the SECOND it detects the binary and DOES SO AGAIN AND AGAIN, OVER AND OVER without us ever getting an explanation...now it even shows up in marshmallow with data usage access... the only reason we know it even exists, or wants root, is supersu pops up, as our battery bottoms out...
Now, package disabler pro is gone from the store..oh wait...is it? Or is it just gone for Samsung devices? Or maybe just T Mobile, Samsung devices? Hrrmmm
No. The built in watered down version which doesn't help us with a package like tmobile.pr.adapt or let us disable every single thing we choose to, is simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
flyingwolf said:
Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
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It's only gone for certain devices...
My Account is not enabled on my S7 unless I start it up myself. The com.tmobile.pr.adapt is enabled but if you disable Diagnostics under App Settings in T-Mobile for me it uses very little data, 14mb in almost a month for me, and T-Mo claims that the usage is not charged to you. You are correct you cannot stop it with the default application manager, but it will not show up in the task bar unless you manually start it.
I'm not going to get into root issues, my phone is on the Jump on Demand so I'm planning to trade up every few months and yeah root is nice but for the most part unless you are a dev (I am not) you shouldn't need it. I'd love to have my copy of Root Explorer and Titanium Backup work (for restores) but can get along without it. If I really needed that stuff I wouldn't have given up my Sony Xperia Z Ultra which was running CM to go to a new unrooted platform.
Hi,
I have been using EZ package disabler since I got my S7 Edge and I am happy with it. Unfortunately, when the software update came, with too much excitement, I forgot to enable all disabled apps prior to updating the firmware. I have updated the firmware with apps disabled. What problem should I be facing? What should I do? Currently I am not experiencing any problems but I suspect that the disabled apps where not optimized. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
You can still find package disabler pro. Won't post the link because forum rules but Google is your best friend. I have it in my SD card.
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