Hi all. Quick question; searched and didn't find a response. So...
There are a few Google apps I'd really like to lose. Namely Play Books, Play Movies/TV, Play Newstand, and Play Games. I'm never going to use them, so I'd just as soon uninstall them. My question is can I uninstall these through Titanium Backup or are they crucial system apps that I should just leave alone and learn to live with?
Thanks!
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
experience7 said:
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
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I freeze every one of those apps with Titanium backup every time I install gaaps or return to stock. No issues with them frozen on N5 at all.
experience7 said:
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
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I never thought about that. Thanks! :highfive: I feel so dumb...
Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
Actually, all deactivating them in Apps does is uninstall the updates. They're still there.
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Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
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The advantage in freezing them is you retain the ability to take OTA updates without reflashing system.
Jason_MCG said:
Actually, all deactivating them in Apps does is uninstall the updates. They're still there.
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Titanium Backup is worth the price. The UI is terrible. Still can't find a replacement I'm happy with.
experience7 said:
Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
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I would think most people who are active on these threads chose a nexus for ease of changing ROMS. I would lose my mind doing that without the pro version of TiBu. Have it anyway so used it. Also, freeze is nice because I can quickly thaw out a memory hog program, use it as I need to and then quickly refreeze it with all data in tact.
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The advantage in freezing them is you retain the ability to take OTA updates without reflashing system.
Titanium Backup is worth the price. The UI is terrible. Still can't find a replacement I'm happy with.
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Of course it is - bought it years ago.
You can delete any app with the full version of Titanium Backup.
But I'm pretty sure that you can disable them like I mentioned above and still receive OTA's Am I wrong?
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Even though the phone cones standard with almost every Google application it you can uninstall most of these application. With no root needed to free up space on the internal memory. You can not delete the games that come preliaded though.
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Can you clarify your what you're saying? It doesn't make much sense.
Are you claiming you can remove all apps that ship pre-installed except the games?
And please be specific to which applications you can permanently delete and what apps you cannot. It would be much appreciated.
I'm sure he's talking about gapps. Since google put there apps on the market for easy updating. no way tmo gone make it easy to remove there bloat ware
TitaniumBackup freeze
You can use TitaniumBackup donate version's freeze function for those apps you want to disable and unlist such as amazonmp3.
ovm said:
You can use TitaniumBackup donate version's freeze function for those apps you want to disable and unlist such as amazonmp3.
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How's that going to work if/when you reboot?
floepie said:
How's that going to work if/when you reboot?
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You need to have the root access to completely remove them else you will not be able to remove them completely.
vikramdhani said:
You need to have the root access to completely remove them else you will not be able to remove them completely.
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Say that again?
The way I understand it is that with no real root access and therefore no real write access (and therefore delete access) to /system, you cannot delete apps off of the system partition, as they will reappear after reboot. Freezing apps by Titanium simply removes them from some sort of app database so they don't appear in the app drawer and cannot start at any time, although they do remain linked to the market and remain in the data partition so as to be unfrozen at any time.
Correct if wrong. I don't see a way to delete apps at this time, and I'm wondering how the freeze will work after a reboot.
floepie said:
Say that again?
The way I understand it is that with no real root access and therefore no real write access (and therefore delete access) to /system, you cannot delete apps off of the system partition, as they will reappear after reboot. Freezing apps by Titanium simply removes them from some sort of app database so they don't appear in the app drawer and cannot start at any time, although they do remain linked to the market and remain in the data partition so as to be unfrozen at any time.
Correct if wrong. I don't see a way to delete apps at this time, and I'm wondering how the freeze will work after a reboot.
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You are correct till we don't have the root access all the methods will be temp and you will see the apps coming back after a reboot. i know it sucks but this is how it is with the phones these days.
the only good thing is that these apps don't bother me because they are not bogging the phone down
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
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That's exactly what TB does when it freezes an app. So, I suppose it works and survives a reboot?
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That's exactly what TB does when it freezes an app. So, I suppose it works and survives a reboot?
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Yes, it does. I'm a bit old school so I like to do stuff manually (unless it's super complicated of course). The best thing about this method is that you can just disable/enable packages as you please.
One thing to consider is those that did completely remove Google Goggles from their G2 had problems with OTA. Disabling/freezing apps is a way to avoid that.
borodin1 said:
Yes, it does. I'm a bit old school so I like to do stuff manually (unless it's super complicated of course). The best thing about this method is that you can just disable/enable packages as you please.
One thing to consider is those that did completely remove Google Goggles from their G2 had problems with OTA. Disabling/freezing apps is a way to avoid that.
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I suppose this works because the writes go to the data partition?
floepie said:
I suppose this works because the writes go to the data partition?
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100% correct. Eventhough .apk file is stored in /system/app, all the settings and data for the said app are in /data/app and data/dalvik-cache which is in fact rw.
borodin1 said:
100% correct. Eventhough .apk file is stored in /system/app, all the settings and data for the said app are in /data/app and data/dalvik-cache which is in fact rw.
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I can confirm that removing games or whatever is permanent. Removed demo version of asphalt and peep and some tmobile stuff, it is gone and hasn't come back even after factory reset. Hope this doesn't interfere with update.
Did you do this in Settings? If so, T-Mo decided that they would allow that, so I'm sure that it wouldn't prevent from an OTA upgrade.
The free version of Titanium Back now has the option to delete apps permanently.
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The free version of Titanium Back now has the option to delete apps permanently.
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does it allow preinstalled apps to be deleted as well ?
kamasi36 said:
I can confirm that removing games or whatever is permanent. Removed demo version of asphalt and peep and some tmobile stuff, it is gone and hasn't come back even after factory reset. Hope this doesn't interfere with update.
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Is there a way to reinstall the full versions without it asking to replace a system app?
If I deleted amazon, and the demos that came with the phone with a temp root using titanium backup will I be able to receive OTA's on the future? Or on order to receive OTA's u need to be completely stock?
Hi,
I saw that google map use RAM when he isn't launch in cm7.2.
So, is there a way to keep it killed when we don't use it ?
Thank you
Zachary57 said:
Hi,
I saw that google map use RAM when he isn't launch in cm7.2.
So, is there a way to keep it killed when we don't use it ?
Thank you
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If you've got root access you can use Titanium Backup to freeze it. Besides that you can control data usage for individual apps with the pro version of Juice Defender.
sean is here. said:
If you've got root access you can use Titanium Backup to freeze it. Besides that you can control data usage for individual apps with the pro version of Juice Defender.
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Problem is not with data usage but with RAM. Is there another way than with Titanium backup because I can kill with settings but it start a second time.
More, I want to be able to run it when I want.
Zachary57 said:
Problem is not with data usage but with RAM. Is there another way than with Titanium backup because I can kill with settings but it start a second time.
More, I want to be able to run it when I want.
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Freezing it with TiBu should do the trick.
I don't know, really. It shouldn't be starting up like that... I almost said under Accounts/Sync disable it but, that doesn't make sense. It shouldn't be there.
Have you tried uninstalling it completely... and reinstalling when necessary?
sean is here. said:
Freezing it with TiBu should do the trick.
I don't know, really. It shouldn't be starting up like that... I almost said under Accounts/Sync disable it but, that doesn't make sense. It shouldn't be there.
Have you tried uninstalling it completely... and reinstalling when necessary?
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Uninstall and reinstall is too long when I need to use it.
I use Autostarts to manage what loads at startup on my phone. Works great for me.
Is there another way than autostarts like a script to mod ?
Does anyone know what happens when you uninstall titanium backup and you have apps frozen?
They should remain frozen. Frozen is really just a name given to what TB and other similar apps do, in order to remove their visibility. Otherwise, you'd have to have a TB service continually running in the background to keep them hidden which is obviously terrible.
You'll obviously have no way to "unfreeze" them as well. Additionally then, there is no guarantee that you can unfreeze them if you re install. Depends on how TB stores the references and if you don't clear data when you uninstall.
I definitely wouldn't suggest uninstalling TB if you used it to freeze apps.
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They should remain frozen. Frozen is really just a name given to what TB and other similar apps do, in order to remove their visibility. Otherwise, you'd have to have a TB service continually running in the background to keep them hidden which is obviously terrible.
You'll obviously have no way to "unfreeze" them as well. Additionally then, there is no guarantee that you can unfreeze them if you re install. Depends on how TB stores the references and if you don't clear data when you uninstall.
I definitely wouldn't suggest uninstalling TB if you used it to freeze apps.
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As long as you used the post ICS freeze in TiBu... You can unfreeze it in Settings > Apps...
There is a disable button that becomes enable once its been frozen
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Does anyone know what happens when you uninstall titanium backup and you have apps frozen?
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Hey guys,
Dumb question that I'm pretty sure I know the answer to, but I'll ask anyway just to double check:
Stock, rooted N5: Can I use TiBu to uninstall Google apps that are pre installed as system apps, then turn around and install those same apps through the Play Store as regular user apps? Any ill effects to this? Primarily looking at Google Music, so I can then Greenify it once it's installed as a regular app. Everything I know tells me this is fine but it never hurts to ask, right? May do the same with Keep, Currents, G+, etc...
Thanks in advance
slider112 said:
Hey guys,
Dumb question that I'm pretty sure I know the answer to, but I'll ask anyway just to double check:
Stock, rooted N5: Can I use TiBu to uninstall Google apps that are pre installed as system apps, then turn around and install those same apps through the Play Store as regular user apps? Any ill effects to this? Primarily looking at Google Music, so I can then Greenify it once it's installed as a regular app. Everything I know tells me this is fine but it never hurts to ask, right? May do the same with Keep, Currents, G+, etc...
Thanks in advance
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Yep, you can uninstall Google apps, like music, plus, magazine, etc... and download as user apps, then greenify them.
I removed some them on day 1 when was on stock and now whenever I flash a new Rom with Gapps. Just be careful with what you choose. I recommend to first back them up then if everything is fine, delete backups.
GUGUITOMTG4 said:
Yep, you can uninstall Google apps, like music, plus, magazine, etc... and download as user apps, then greenify them.
I removed some them on day 1 when was on stock and now whenever I flash a new Rom with Gapps. Just be careful with what you choose. I recommend to first back them up then if everything is fine, delete backups.
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Great, thanks for confirming. Just gonna stick to the basics, but will back up through TiBu first as a precaution. Google Music was at the forefront because at times it runs in the background when bluetooth is turned on. It was either go this route or purchase the full version of Greenify so I could hibernate all system apps. Greenify is well worth the support, but would rather just de-clutter things this way.
Thanks again, much appreciated. :good:
Don't delete. Freeze. There is nothing to gain by deleting
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You lose OTA ability if you outright delete.
Like was stated, freeze them. If you were going to uninstall them through Titanium anyway.....
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rootSU said:
Don't delete. Freeze. There is nothing to gain by deleting
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So freeze Google Music as a system app, then install as a user app from the play store? Seems kind of redundant. I understand that logic and have followed that for other system apps in the past on other devices, but is that really the preferred method if I'm only dealing with Google apps that were installed as system apps from the factory, only by default, and can be easily reinstalled via the play store? Oh, and I'm running Franco's kernel so the OTA capability ship has already sailed anyway...
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So freeze Google Music as a system app, then install as a user app from the play store? Seems kind of redundant. I understand that logic and have followed that for other system apps in the past on other devices, but is that really the preferred method if I'm only dealing with Google apps that were installed as system apps from the factory, only by default, and can be easily reinstalled via the play store? Oh, and I'm running Franco's kernel so the OTA capability ship has already sailed anyway...
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Why would you then install it as a user app? System apps that are also available in play can still be updated via play anyway.
rootSU said:
Why would you then install it as a user app? System apps that are also available in play can still be updated via play anyway.
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Yes, I know that. So I can greenify it. Google Music will run in the background once bluetooth is turned on. Can't greenify system apps with the basic app, so for that particular app I think this would be the easiest method.
Ah well, yep. Non-donators are forced to do weird things.
rootSU said:
Ah well, yep. Non-donators are forced to do weird things.
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Lol. Nothing weird about it. Worked fine. Google apps really shouldn't be installed as system apps if they're available in the play store. The user should have the choice of what they want and don't want. Easily corrected.
They do. Its called "custom rom"
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rootSU said:
They do. Its called "custom rom"
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They also have "titanium backup". Uninstalled. Done. "Custom roms" aren't for everyone. I've run plenty since my original droid days and just never use half the features included. I want rooted stock, and I have it. Thanks for everyones input.
Yep. Can get custom roms based on stock that have skeleton gapps. To answer your statement earlier
"Google apps really shouldn't be installed as system apps if they're available in the play store"
Well yes they should as that is where they are designed to be. They are on the play store to allow updating outside the scope of OTA.
And of course it's your prerogative to remove apps as system apps and make them user apps, but I do get the feeling you're only doing it to continue using greenify without donating. But then again, it's none of my business whether you donate or not.
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Yep. Can get custom roms based on stock that have skeleton gapps. To answer your statement earlier
"Google apps really shouldn't be installed as system apps if they're available in the play store"
Well yes they should as that is where they are designed to be. They are on the play store to allow updating outside the scope of OTA.
And of course it's your prerogative to remove apps as system apps and make them user apps, but I do get the feeling you're only doing it to continue using greenify without donating. But then again, it's none of my business whether you donate or not.
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Yep. Can get custom roms based on stock that have skeleton gapps. To answer your statement earlier.
- Yep. Know that. I only flash core/mini gapps packages on the "custom roms" I've run. But "based on stock" isn't stock. Point was more about not needing/wanting the extra features that "custom roms" provide. Especially on a pure google device like the N5.
"Google apps really shouldn't be installed as system apps if they're available in the play store"
Well yes they should as that is where they are designed to be. They are on the play store to allow updating outside the scope of OTA.
- Opinion. They're not designed to be system apps and there is no benefit having them installed as such. They're system apps on Nexus devices because they're made by Google, only reason. They're on the play store to allow for users of non google devices to install/uninstall as they please.
And of course it's your prerogative to remove apps as system apps and make them user apps, but I do get the feeling you're only doing it to continue using greenify without donating. But then again, it's none of my business whether you donate or not.
- You get that feeling because that's exactly why I'm doing it. Never implied otherwise. Let's not go down the "you should support all developers for their hard work" road here. I've purchased more apps over the years than I care to admit, and continue to support developers and their hard work. Case in point: Titanium Backup Pro; which I used as the alternative here.
After I saw that the data generated by the MotoCare app was very large, I decided to clear this data (through settings>apps).
In Motorola Privacy settings I have disabled MotoCare.
Two weeks have passed now and again my MotoCare data has grown substantial, being at 11,62Mb now.
Does anybode else also have this growing data of MotoCare?
What is this app collecting even if it is turned off?
I completely disabled motocare app and stuff, you can do the same in easy way. For me it's an unuseful service and i completely disabled. You need it?
This is unfortunatelly one of the Moto apps that I can not disable.
Other apps I disabled but for this one the button is grayed out.
How did you disabled this one?
I used Titanium Backup
Thanks, will try that as well.
But will it be disabled or did you remove it ?
I don't want to remove any system apps so I prefer to only disable it.
No man, i only disabled them, not remove, better keep them there for sure. Oh ehm, make always a backup before you touch something in system partition
Mickeyvdb said:
Thanks, will try that as well.
But will it be disabled or did you remove it ?
I don't want to remove any system apps so I prefer to only disable it.
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Are you rooted?
If yes - you can use Unninstaller Pro. It has "Freeze" function per app.
App won`t work, but it won`t be uninstalled either and you can unfreeze it in any moment.
Cheers.
Yes, my MotoG is rooted.
I will give it a try.
Thanks.
I think that Titanium Backup is really better
Since the freeze option is only available in the pro version of Titanium, I tried another app.
App Quarantaine is doing the job very well so far.
I also read something about Greenify, is this recommended above the others?
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