Does anyone know what happens when you uninstall titanium backup and you have apps frozen?
They should remain frozen. Frozen is really just a name given to what TB and other similar apps do, in order to remove their visibility. Otherwise, you'd have to have a TB service continually running in the background to keep them hidden which is obviously terrible.
You'll obviously have no way to "unfreeze" them as well. Additionally then, there is no guarantee that you can unfreeze them if you re install. Depends on how TB stores the references and if you don't clear data when you uninstall.
I definitely wouldn't suggest uninstalling TB if you used it to freeze apps.
Maverick0984 said:
They should remain frozen. Frozen is really just a name given to what TB and other similar apps do, in order to remove their visibility. Otherwise, you'd have to have a TB service continually running in the background to keep them hidden which is obviously terrible.
You'll obviously have no way to "unfreeze" them as well. Additionally then, there is no guarantee that you can unfreeze them if you re install. Depends on how TB stores the references and if you don't clear data when you uninstall.
I definitely wouldn't suggest uninstalling TB if you used it to freeze apps.
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As long as you used the post ICS freeze in TiBu... You can unfreeze it in Settings > Apps...
There is a disable button that becomes enable once its been frozen
emerica243 said:
Does anyone know what happens when you uninstall titanium backup and you have apps frozen?
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Even though the phone cones standard with almost every Google application it you can uninstall most of these application. With no root needed to free up space on the internal memory. You can not delete the games that come preliaded though.
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Can you clarify your what you're saying? It doesn't make much sense.
Are you claiming you can remove all apps that ship pre-installed except the games?
And please be specific to which applications you can permanently delete and what apps you cannot. It would be much appreciated.
I'm sure he's talking about gapps. Since google put there apps on the market for easy updating. no way tmo gone make it easy to remove there bloat ware
TitaniumBackup freeze
You can use TitaniumBackup donate version's freeze function for those apps you want to disable and unlist such as amazonmp3.
ovm said:
You can use TitaniumBackup donate version's freeze function for those apps you want to disable and unlist such as amazonmp3.
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How's that going to work if/when you reboot?
floepie said:
How's that going to work if/when you reboot?
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You need to have the root access to completely remove them else you will not be able to remove them completely.
vikramdhani said:
You need to have the root access to completely remove them else you will not be able to remove them completely.
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Say that again?
The way I understand it is that with no real root access and therefore no real write access (and therefore delete access) to /system, you cannot delete apps off of the system partition, as they will reappear after reboot. Freezing apps by Titanium simply removes them from some sort of app database so they don't appear in the app drawer and cannot start at any time, although they do remain linked to the market and remain in the data partition so as to be unfrozen at any time.
Correct if wrong. I don't see a way to delete apps at this time, and I'm wondering how the freeze will work after a reboot.
floepie said:
Say that again?
The way I understand it is that with no real root access and therefore no real write access (and therefore delete access) to /system, you cannot delete apps off of the system partition, as they will reappear after reboot. Freezing apps by Titanium simply removes them from some sort of app database so they don't appear in the app drawer and cannot start at any time, although they do remain linked to the market and remain in the data partition so as to be unfrozen at any time.
Correct if wrong. I don't see a way to delete apps at this time, and I'm wondering how the freeze will work after a reboot.
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You are correct till we don't have the root access all the methods will be temp and you will see the apps coming back after a reboot. i know it sucks but this is how it is with the phones these days.
the only good thing is that these apps don't bother me because they are not bogging the phone down
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
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That's exactly what TB does when it freezes an app. So, I suppose it works and survives a reboot?
floepie said:
That's exactly what TB does when it freezes an app. So, I suppose it works and survives a reboot?
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Yes, it does. I'm a bit old school so I like to do stuff manually (unless it's super complicated of course). The best thing about this method is that you can just disable/enable packages as you please.
One thing to consider is those that did completely remove Google Goggles from their G2 had problems with OTA. Disabling/freezing apps is a way to avoid that.
borodin1 said:
Yes, it does. I'm a bit old school so I like to do stuff manually (unless it's super complicated of course). The best thing about this method is that you can just disable/enable packages as you please.
One thing to consider is those that did completely remove Google Goggles from their G2 had problems with OTA. Disabling/freezing apps is a way to avoid that.
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I suppose this works because the writes go to the data partition?
floepie said:
I suppose this works because the writes go to the data partition?
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100% correct. Eventhough .apk file is stored in /system/app, all the settings and data for the said app are in /data/app and data/dalvik-cache which is in fact rw.
borodin1 said:
100% correct. Eventhough .apk file is stored in /system/app, all the settings and data for the said app are in /data/app and data/dalvik-cache which is in fact rw.
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I can confirm that removing games or whatever is permanent. Removed demo version of asphalt and peep and some tmobile stuff, it is gone and hasn't come back even after factory reset. Hope this doesn't interfere with update.
Did you do this in Settings? If so, T-Mo decided that they would allow that, so I'm sure that it wouldn't prevent from an OTA upgrade.
The free version of Titanium Back now has the option to delete apps permanently.
pdxmatts said:
The free version of Titanium Back now has the option to delete apps permanently.
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does it allow preinstalled apps to be deleted as well ?
kamasi36 said:
I can confirm that removing games or whatever is permanent. Removed demo version of asphalt and peep and some tmobile stuff, it is gone and hasn't come back even after factory reset. Hope this doesn't interfere with update.
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Is there a way to reinstall the full versions without it asking to replace a system app?
If I deleted amazon, and the demos that came with the phone with a temp root using titanium backup will I be able to receive OTA's on the future? Or on order to receive OTA's u need to be completely stock?
Now that I have bloat freezer instead of App Quarantine I have a lot more options here. I got just about everything AT&T except for Address Book. Any other suggestions?
Any way I could freeze the webdock features since I'm not using one at the moment?
you do know that a lot of the att apps could easily be uninstalled with settings > applications > app manager?
they were installed to /data, so you have permissions to uninstall those as well as some of the motorola apps
as far as what to remove/freeze
i have only froze device health, toggle widgets, homescreen tips and att address book. i had a lot more, but, when you freeze a lot of the social networking stuff, you lose functions such as syncing online photos and i even had the contacts app force closing with something that i froze as well. a lot of services are tied into core apps, so it's hard to tell what safe and what isn't and i gave up on trying.
I don't want to uninstall them, at least not while I'm on a stock ROM. Might mess up update compatibility. If I freeze them then it's no issue and they're only taking up internal memory.
Doesn't seem like there's really a whole lot to take off the top here, and it looks like the webtop takes up a good chunk of RAM just running the in the background. Argh...
Here ya go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330235
all the att bloatware that u can uninstall comes back when you do a factory reset. my guess is there's an update.zip it uses to put back on the rom somewhere. go ahead an uninstall it. i had to uninstall it all twice BC i did factory reset
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i even had the contacts app force closing with something that i froze as well.
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I think this is from the Yahoo! Mail Authenticator. Not sure the reasoning, but happened on first Atrix, too.
I've always used Titanium Backup to completely back up all of my apps just before wiping, resetting, and installing a new ROM, then restoring. Someone told me that in essence, the Google app store does the same thing, so long as your phone is set to back up your apps. If this is the case, which process does everyone here prefer?
I still use tibu. Google is unreliable. You can't force it to restore.
hartford said:
I've always used Titanium Backup to completely back up all of my apps just before wiping, resetting, and installing a new ROM, then restoring. Someone told me that in essence, the Google app store does the same thing, so long as your phone is set to back up your apps. If this is the case, which process does everyone here prefer?
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Not exactly the same. The Play Store will restore your apps without data. In essence, it just redownloads all your apps so you don't have to. TiBu will store data as well. Also, TiBu will backup and restore any app that you installed from outside the Play Store (like Swiftkey 3 Beta or the Amazon App Store) and restore apps much faster (since they are already downloaded, all it has to do is batch install them).
TiBu has a plethora of features too like automatic backups and syncing and such. However, restoring your apps with data may cause some headaches sometimes. For instance, restoring Friendcaster Pro with data after doing a wipe will break push notifications until I remove my Facebook account and re-login. Though restoring data to something like Tasker is freaking great since I don't have to go through the hassle of setting up all my profiles again.
Thank you very much for confirming my thoughts. I'm a long-time Titanium Backup user, and I don't doubt that sometimes the app store restoration process can be unreliable. I shall continue with what I know works, and works well!
Hi all. Quick question; searched and didn't find a response. So...
There are a few Google apps I'd really like to lose. Namely Play Books, Play Movies/TV, Play Newstand, and Play Games. I'm never going to use them, so I'd just as soon uninstall them. My question is can I uninstall these through Titanium Backup or are they crucial system apps that I should just leave alone and learn to live with?
Thanks!
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
experience7 said:
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
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I freeze every one of those apps with Titanium backup every time I install gaaps or return to stock. No issues with them frozen on N5 at all.
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You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
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I never thought about that. Thanks! :highfive: I feel so dumb...
Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
Actually, all deactivating them in Apps does is uninstall the updates. They're still there.
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Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
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The advantage in freezing them is you retain the ability to take OTA updates without reflashing system.
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Actually, all deactivating them in Apps does is uninstall the updates. They're still there.
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Titanium Backup is worth the price. The UI is terrible. Still can't find a replacement I'm happy with.
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Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
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I would think most people who are active on these threads chose a nexus for ease of changing ROMS. I would lose my mind doing that without the pro version of TiBu. Have it anyway so used it. Also, freeze is nice because I can quickly thaw out a memory hog program, use it as I need to and then quickly refreeze it with all data in tact.
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The advantage in freezing them is you retain the ability to take OTA updates without reflashing system.
Titanium Backup is worth the price. The UI is terrible. Still can't find a replacement I'm happy with.
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Of course it is - bought it years ago.
You can delete any app with the full version of Titanium Backup.
But I'm pretty sure that you can disable them like I mentioned above and still receive OTA's Am I wrong?
After I saw that the data generated by the MotoCare app was very large, I decided to clear this data (through settings>apps).
In Motorola Privacy settings I have disabled MotoCare.
Two weeks have passed now and again my MotoCare data has grown substantial, being at 11,62Mb now.
Does anybode else also have this growing data of MotoCare?
What is this app collecting even if it is turned off?
I completely disabled motocare app and stuff, you can do the same in easy way. For me it's an unuseful service and i completely disabled. You need it?
This is unfortunatelly one of the Moto apps that I can not disable.
Other apps I disabled but for this one the button is grayed out.
How did you disabled this one?
I used Titanium Backup
Thanks, will try that as well.
But will it be disabled or did you remove it ?
I don't want to remove any system apps so I prefer to only disable it.
No man, i only disabled them, not remove, better keep them there for sure. Oh ehm, make always a backup before you touch something in system partition
Mickeyvdb said:
Thanks, will try that as well.
But will it be disabled or did you remove it ?
I don't want to remove any system apps so I prefer to only disable it.
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Are you rooted?
If yes - you can use Unninstaller Pro. It has "Freeze" function per app.
App won`t work, but it won`t be uninstalled either and you can unfreeze it in any moment.
Cheers.
Yes, my MotoG is rooted.
I will give it a try.
Thanks.
I think that Titanium Backup is really better
Since the freeze option is only available in the pro version of Titanium, I tried another app.
App Quarantaine is doing the job very well so far.
I also read something about Greenify, is this recommended above the others?
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