Even though the phone cones standard with almost every Google application it you can uninstall most of these application. With no root needed to free up space on the internal memory. You can not delete the games that come preliaded though.
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Can you clarify your what you're saying? It doesn't make much sense.
Are you claiming you can remove all apps that ship pre-installed except the games?
And please be specific to which applications you can permanently delete and what apps you cannot. It would be much appreciated.
I'm sure he's talking about gapps. Since google put there apps on the market for easy updating. no way tmo gone make it easy to remove there bloat ware
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You can use TitaniumBackup donate version's freeze function for those apps you want to disable and unlist such as amazonmp3.
ovm said:
You can use TitaniumBackup donate version's freeze function for those apps you want to disable and unlist such as amazonmp3.
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How's that going to work if/when you reboot?
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How's that going to work if/when you reboot?
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You need to have the root access to completely remove them else you will not be able to remove them completely.
vikramdhani said:
You need to have the root access to completely remove them else you will not be able to remove them completely.
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Say that again?
The way I understand it is that with no real root access and therefore no real write access (and therefore delete access) to /system, you cannot delete apps off of the system partition, as they will reappear after reboot. Freezing apps by Titanium simply removes them from some sort of app database so they don't appear in the app drawer and cannot start at any time, although they do remain linked to the market and remain in the data partition so as to be unfrozen at any time.
Correct if wrong. I don't see a way to delete apps at this time, and I'm wondering how the freeze will work after a reboot.
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Say that again?
The way I understand it is that with no real root access and therefore no real write access (and therefore delete access) to /system, you cannot delete apps off of the system partition, as they will reappear after reboot. Freezing apps by Titanium simply removes them from some sort of app database so they don't appear in the app drawer and cannot start at any time, although they do remain linked to the market and remain in the data partition so as to be unfrozen at any time.
Correct if wrong. I don't see a way to delete apps at this time, and I'm wondering how the freeze will work after a reboot.
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You are correct till we don't have the root access all the methods will be temp and you will see the apps coming back after a reboot. i know it sucks but this is how it is with the phones these days.
the only good thing is that these apps don't bother me because they are not bogging the phone down
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
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That's exactly what TB does when it freezes an app. So, I suppose it works and survives a reboot?
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That's exactly what TB does when it freezes an app. So, I suppose it works and survives a reboot?
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Yes, it does. I'm a bit old school so I like to do stuff manually (unless it's super complicated of course). The best thing about this method is that you can just disable/enable packages as you please.
One thing to consider is those that did completely remove Google Goggles from their G2 had problems with OTA. Disabling/freezing apps is a way to avoid that.
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Yes, it does. I'm a bit old school so I like to do stuff manually (unless it's super complicated of course). The best thing about this method is that you can just disable/enable packages as you please.
One thing to consider is those that did completely remove Google Goggles from their G2 had problems with OTA. Disabling/freezing apps is a way to avoid that.
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I suppose this works because the writes go to the data partition?
floepie said:
I suppose this works because the writes go to the data partition?
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100% correct. Eventhough .apk file is stored in /system/app, all the settings and data for the said app are in /data/app and data/dalvik-cache which is in fact rw.
borodin1 said:
100% correct. Eventhough .apk file is stored in /system/app, all the settings and data for the said app are in /data/app and data/dalvik-cache which is in fact rw.
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I can confirm that removing games or whatever is permanent. Removed demo version of asphalt and peep and some tmobile stuff, it is gone and hasn't come back even after factory reset. Hope this doesn't interfere with update.
Did you do this in Settings? If so, T-Mo decided that they would allow that, so I'm sure that it wouldn't prevent from an OTA upgrade.
The free version of Titanium Back now has the option to delete apps permanently.
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The free version of Titanium Back now has the option to delete apps permanently.
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does it allow preinstalled apps to be deleted as well ?
kamasi36 said:
I can confirm that removing games or whatever is permanent. Removed demo version of asphalt and peep and some tmobile stuff, it is gone and hasn't come back even after factory reset. Hope this doesn't interfere with update.
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Is there a way to reinstall the full versions without it asking to replace a system app?
If I deleted amazon, and the demos that came with the phone with a temp root using titanium backup will I be able to receive OTA's on the future? Or on order to receive OTA's u need to be completely stock?
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I have an issue where my paid apps (Remote Desktop & PicSay Pro for Instance) is no longer available or found in the Apps Market. The Apps are on my phone, but when I search or try to update, they are not found.
I found this out when I put on the Fresh update and started to reload apps due to Apps2SD and I formatted my SD Card.
Any Ideas?
I havent reverted to stock yet, which I might do to figure this out.
this is just not rooted issues...it has to do with the update that htc released
it affects hero and eris owners
http://androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/19468-missing-apps-marketplace-post-patch.html
I'm having the same issue... =T
zikronix said:
this is just not rooted issues...it has to do with the update that htc released
it affects hero and eris owners
http://androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/19468-missing-apps-marketplace-post-patch.html
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Will they ever get it right?
******Here's how to get around this temporarily!******
I know this isn't the best method, and some might frown upon it, but I couldn't get one of my purchased apps to show up at all in the market. This is because that publisher set copy protection to ON when publishing it. In writing the author, he said it was google's problem and that there was nothing he could do. All while he's enjoying a coffee courtesy of yours truly.
I thankfully had a nandroid backup of my modaco rom where the widget was installed, so I restored my backup (after making a backup of the fresh rom and doing the switcheroo in teh nandroid folder) and ran Astro to see if I could back it up, switch back, and restore. Much to my dismay, it said it was private. Damn.
So, what's a root user to do?
Thankfully, there's a way to restore the APK's, even if they're in a "private" status, meaning the developer doesn't want you to be able to back them up or copy the APK anywhere.
Since this info could be used to steal from developers, I'm not going to post how to do it. In my case, I cannot use an app I paid for. Not cool. Since I'm an honest person, I don't want to contribute to theft. PM me and we'll chat if necessary
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Am I safe if I backup my
/data/app
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Or will I still lose my purchased apps?
Dont want to lose them!
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Am I safe if I backup my
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Or will I still lose my purchased apps?
Dont want to lose them!
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The app-private directory should be the only one affected by this issue.
Unfortunately, I assumed I could re-download the apps from the market. I mean, after all, I did pay for them. Lesson learned.
its the same way with the free apps, there are like 9 i use on a daily basis, that i cant have now...pissed
Have the same problem as well, although I was able to download a few of my paid apps right after the update. It seems they were still available until I did my first soft reboot.
For example, I was able to re-download Album Art Grabber which cost money, but after reboot was unable to find let alone download Weatherbug Elite...
When I reinstalled the MoDaCo Rom the only app I could not get back showed up. It force closed but in my downloads in the market it is now there. It goes away if I restore to the non MoDaCo Rom. It is probl due to APP2SD, I guess it is on the SD cards ext2 partition.
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Unfortunately, I assumed I could re-download the apps from the market. I mean, after all, I did pay for them. Lesson learned.
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You normally can...the issue is just recent with the market.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=34a071cd60d59177&hl=en
The title is my question.
A few minutes, 5-10 maybe. I don't recall it taking any longer than that.
Is there any way I can keep all my data after I root or will I lose it all?
The fastboot oem unlock command wipes everything including your SD card partition. There is no way to prevent this.
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Is there any way I can keep all my data after I root or will I lose it all?
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Nope, not that I know of. The only methods I've seen require you to unlock the bootloader and the fastboot oem unlock wipes the phone, INCLUDING THE SD CARD contents...so back up any photos and app data you've taken and would be upset losing.
You might lesson the pain by getting some backup app that doesn't require root (MyBackUp Pro, perhaps?).
never tried it but the AVG app from the market is said to back up app data, not apps themselves but the data, so maybe that would work.
I would hate for you to lose all your Angry Bird progress
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never tried it but the AVG app from the market is said to back up app data, not apps themselves but the data, so maybe that would work.
I would hate for you to lose all your Angry Bird progress
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lol i know and tomorrow i will update and tell you if the avg app works.
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lol i know and tomorrow i will update and tell you if the avg app works.
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that be great
The AVG app does not back up app data (like angry bird saves).
tominater12 said:
The AVG app does not back up app data (like angry bird saves).
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for shame is this even at all possible with an app while not rooted?
pretty sure you can do it with ADB, right?
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for shame is this even at all possible with an app while not rooted?
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MyBackup won't do what you're after? It says root not required.
Well I am rooted now but when I was not rooted I could run the command "adb devices" so maybe it is possible.
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MyBackup won't do what you're after? It says root not required.
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It does not matter now but this debunks it.
"Users who have a rooted phone: You can backup apk+data as well as market links!"
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It does not matter now but this debunks it.
"Users who have a rooted phone: You can backup apk+data as well as market links!"
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Its going to piss me off, i have no problem with rooting my phone but at this time im just not ready to go ahead and root my NS nor do I see any major reason to make the jump, and before i root it id love to get atleast some of the data off like game saves and such before unlocking the bootloader
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Its going to piss me off, i have no problem with rooting my phone but at this time im just not ready to go ahead and root my NS nor do I see any major reason to make the jump, and before i root it id love to get atleast some of the data off like game saves and such before unlocking the bootloader
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That is why I rooted now so I do not have to worry about losing THAT much with my game saves. Yah though there should be someway to back up user data from apps without root.
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It does not matter now but this debunks it.
"Users who have a rooted phone: You can backup apk+data as well as market links!"
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But it also says: "MyBackup and MyBackup Pro will work on all Android mobile devices, regardless if they have root access or not."
I think the quote you're using means it adds market links, but I don't use MyBackup Pro any more. It was the first backup app I used on Android, but I don't think it was pre-root, so can't be sure.
The app is free 30 day trial, maybe someone who's not rooted can test it out and see what exactly it backs up.
emailed the developer asking if you can back up app data without root.
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But it also says: "MyBackup and MyBackup Pro will work on all Android mobile devices, regardless if they have root access or not."
I think the quote you're using means it adds market links, but I don't use MyBackup Pro any more. It was the first backup app I used on Android, but I don't think it was pre-root, so can't be sure.
The app is free 30 day trial, maybe someone who's not rooted can test it out and see what exactly it backs up.
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here are backup options
Contacts, call log, bookmarks, sms, mms, system settings, home, alarms, dictionary, calendar, playlist
ya im pretty sure you need root to access /data/data/
I cant even get to /data/data/ using adb permission denied
EDIT: there is a version made specifically for phones with root
Makes sense.
Ridiculous that it takes root to back up your apps and data. What the hell is Google thinking with that one?
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Makes sense.
Ridiculous that it takes root to back up your apps and data. What the hell is Google thinking with that one?
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hopefully someone devs a way to root without unlocking the bootloader like with the N1.
Only reservations I have about it is losing some of my data that cant be saved
Does anyone know what happens when you uninstall titanium backup and you have apps frozen?
They should remain frozen. Frozen is really just a name given to what TB and other similar apps do, in order to remove their visibility. Otherwise, you'd have to have a TB service continually running in the background to keep them hidden which is obviously terrible.
You'll obviously have no way to "unfreeze" them as well. Additionally then, there is no guarantee that you can unfreeze them if you re install. Depends on how TB stores the references and if you don't clear data when you uninstall.
I definitely wouldn't suggest uninstalling TB if you used it to freeze apps.
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They should remain frozen. Frozen is really just a name given to what TB and other similar apps do, in order to remove their visibility. Otherwise, you'd have to have a TB service continually running in the background to keep them hidden which is obviously terrible.
You'll obviously have no way to "unfreeze" them as well. Additionally then, there is no guarantee that you can unfreeze them if you re install. Depends on how TB stores the references and if you don't clear data when you uninstall.
I definitely wouldn't suggest uninstalling TB if you used it to freeze apps.
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As long as you used the post ICS freeze in TiBu... You can unfreeze it in Settings > Apps...
There is a disable button that becomes enable once its been frozen
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Does anyone know what happens when you uninstall titanium backup and you have apps frozen?
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Hi all. Quick question; searched and didn't find a response. So...
There are a few Google apps I'd really like to lose. Namely Play Books, Play Movies/TV, Play Newstand, and Play Games. I'm never going to use them, so I'd just as soon uninstall them. My question is can I uninstall these through Titanium Backup or are they crucial system apps that I should just leave alone and learn to live with?
Thanks!
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
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You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
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I freeze every one of those apps with Titanium backup every time I install gaaps or return to stock. No issues with them frozen on N5 at all.
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You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
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I never thought about that. Thanks! :highfive: I feel so dumb...
Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
Actually, all deactivating them in Apps does is uninstall the updates. They're still there.
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Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
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The advantage in freezing them is you retain the ability to take OTA updates without reflashing system.
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Actually, all deactivating them in Apps does is uninstall the updates. They're still there.
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Titanium Backup is worth the price. The UI is terrible. Still can't find a replacement I'm happy with.
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Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
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I would think most people who are active on these threads chose a nexus for ease of changing ROMS. I would lose my mind doing that without the pro version of TiBu. Have it anyway so used it. Also, freeze is nice because I can quickly thaw out a memory hog program, use it as I need to and then quickly refreeze it with all data in tact.
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The advantage in freezing them is you retain the ability to take OTA updates without reflashing system.
Titanium Backup is worth the price. The UI is terrible. Still can't find a replacement I'm happy with.
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Of course it is - bought it years ago.
You can delete any app with the full version of Titanium Backup.
But I'm pretty sure that you can disable them like I mentioned above and still receive OTA's Am I wrong?
Is it bad manners to ask which of the system apps in a custom ROM can be safely uninstalled? I don't want to insult anyone that put in hours and hours of work to make our lives better, But i don't see the need for Chrome and Internet, to list an example.
What you guys think?
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Is it bad manners to ask which of the system apps in a custom ROM can be safely uninstalled? I don't want to insult anyone that put in hours and hours of work to make our lives better, But i don't see the need for Chrome and Internet, to list an example.
What you guys think?
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no its not.. but there are some bad implication for removing some apps.. make sure you know which system app can be removed safely and what are not.
thanks Reyscott1968. I will be certain to ask, Also which is the most common way to remove apps from system. Using a root explorer. or some app.. the system app manager just has the "disable" feature.
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thanks Reyscott1968. I will be certain to ask, Also which is the most common way to remove apps from system. Using a root explorer. or some app.. the system app manager just has the "disable" feature.
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use titanium backup or similar app.
best to make a backup of the apps first, then if you change your mind or have an issue, you can put it back.
titanium can also freeze apps, witch is basically the same as deleting but not really gone.