bad Manners? - General Questions and Answers

Is it bad manners to ask which of the system apps in a custom ROM can be safely uninstalled? I don't want to insult anyone that put in hours and hours of work to make our lives better, But i don't see the need for Chrome and Internet, to list an example.
What you guys think?

Ceahorse said:
Is it bad manners to ask which of the system apps in a custom ROM can be safely uninstalled? I don't want to insult anyone that put in hours and hours of work to make our lives better, But i don't see the need for Chrome and Internet, to list an example.
What you guys think?
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no its not.. but there are some bad implication for removing some apps.. make sure you know which system app can be removed safely and what are not.

thanks Reyscott1968. I will be certain to ask, Also which is the most common way to remove apps from system. Using a root explorer. or some app.. the system app manager just has the "disable" feature.

Ceahorse said:
thanks Reyscott1968. I will be certain to ask, Also which is the most common way to remove apps from system. Using a root explorer. or some app.. the system app manager just has the "disable" feature.
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use titanium backup or similar app.
best to make a backup of the apps first, then if you change your mind or have an issue, you can put it back.
titanium can also freeze apps, witch is basically the same as deleting but not really gone.

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Built in application removal

Even though the phone cones standard with almost every Google application it you can uninstall most of these application. With no root needed to free up space on the internal memory. You can not delete the games that come preliaded though.
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Can you clarify your what you're saying? It doesn't make much sense.
Are you claiming you can remove all apps that ship pre-installed except the games?
And please be specific to which applications you can permanently delete and what apps you cannot. It would be much appreciated.
I'm sure he's talking about gapps. Since google put there apps on the market for easy updating. no way tmo gone make it easy to remove there bloat ware
TitaniumBackup freeze
You can use TitaniumBackup donate version's freeze function for those apps you want to disable and unlist such as amazonmp3.
ovm said:
You can use TitaniumBackup donate version's freeze function for those apps you want to disable and unlist such as amazonmp3.
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How's that going to work if/when you reboot?
floepie said:
How's that going to work if/when you reboot?
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You need to have the root access to completely remove them else you will not be able to remove them completely.
vikramdhani said:
You need to have the root access to completely remove them else you will not be able to remove them completely.
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Say that again?
The way I understand it is that with no real root access and therefore no real write access (and therefore delete access) to /system, you cannot delete apps off of the system partition, as they will reappear after reboot. Freezing apps by Titanium simply removes them from some sort of app database so they don't appear in the app drawer and cannot start at any time, although they do remain linked to the market and remain in the data partition so as to be unfrozen at any time.
Correct if wrong. I don't see a way to delete apps at this time, and I'm wondering how the freeze will work after a reboot.
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Say that again?
The way I understand it is that with no real root access and therefore no real write access (and therefore delete access) to /system, you cannot delete apps off of the system partition, as they will reappear after reboot. Freezing apps by Titanium simply removes them from some sort of app database so they don't appear in the app drawer and cannot start at any time, although they do remain linked to the market and remain in the data partition so as to be unfrozen at any time.
Correct if wrong. I don't see a way to delete apps at this time, and I'm wondering how the freeze will work after a reboot.
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You are correct till we don't have the root access all the methods will be temp and you will see the apps coming back after a reboot. i know it sucks but this is how it is with the phones these days.
the only good thing is that these apps don't bother me because they are not bogging the phone down
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
borodin1 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
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That's exactly what TB does when it freezes an app. So, I suppose it works and survives a reboot?
floepie said:
That's exactly what TB does when it freezes an app. So, I suppose it works and survives a reboot?
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Yes, it does. I'm a bit old school so I like to do stuff manually (unless it's super complicated of course). The best thing about this method is that you can just disable/enable packages as you please.
One thing to consider is those that did completely remove Google Goggles from their G2 had problems with OTA. Disabling/freezing apps is a way to avoid that.
borodin1 said:
Yes, it does. I'm a bit old school so I like to do stuff manually (unless it's super complicated of course). The best thing about this method is that you can just disable/enable packages as you please.
One thing to consider is those that did completely remove Google Goggles from their G2 had problems with OTA. Disabling/freezing apps is a way to avoid that.
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I suppose this works because the writes go to the data partition?
floepie said:
I suppose this works because the writes go to the data partition?
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100% correct. Eventhough .apk file is stored in /system/app, all the settings and data for the said app are in /data/app and data/dalvik-cache which is in fact rw.
borodin1 said:
100% correct. Eventhough .apk file is stored in /system/app, all the settings and data for the said app are in /data/app and data/dalvik-cache which is in fact rw.
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I can confirm that removing games or whatever is permanent. Removed demo version of asphalt and peep and some tmobile stuff, it is gone and hasn't come back even after factory reset. Hope this doesn't interfere with update.
Did you do this in Settings? If so, T-Mo decided that they would allow that, so I'm sure that it wouldn't prevent from an OTA upgrade.
The free version of Titanium Back now has the option to delete apps permanently.
pdxmatts said:
The free version of Titanium Back now has the option to delete apps permanently.
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does it allow preinstalled apps to be deleted as well ?
kamasi36 said:
I can confirm that removing games or whatever is permanent. Removed demo version of asphalt and peep and some tmobile stuff, it is gone and hasn't come back even after factory reset. Hope this doesn't interfere with update.
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Is there a way to reinstall the full versions without it asking to replace a system app?
If I deleted amazon, and the demos that came with the phone with a temp root using titanium backup will I be able to receive OTA's on the future? Or on order to receive OTA's u need to be completely stock?

[Q] Google map RAM use

Hi,
I saw that google map use RAM when he isn't launch in cm7.2.
So, is there a way to keep it killed when we don't use it ?
Thank you
Zachary57 said:
Hi,
I saw that google map use RAM when he isn't launch in cm7.2.
So, is there a way to keep it killed when we don't use it ?
Thank you
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If you've got root access you can use Titanium Backup to freeze it. Besides that you can control data usage for individual apps with the pro version of Juice Defender.
sean is here. said:
If you've got root access you can use Titanium Backup to freeze it. Besides that you can control data usage for individual apps with the pro version of Juice Defender.
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Problem is not with data usage but with RAM. Is there another way than with Titanium backup because I can kill with settings but it start a second time.
More, I want to be able to run it when I want.
Zachary57 said:
Problem is not with data usage but with RAM. Is there another way than with Titanium backup because I can kill with settings but it start a second time.
More, I want to be able to run it when I want.
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Freezing it with TiBu should do the trick.
I don't know, really. It shouldn't be starting up like that... I almost said under Accounts/Sync disable it but, that doesn't make sense. It shouldn't be there.
Have you tried uninstalling it completely... and reinstalling when necessary?
sean is here. said:
Freezing it with TiBu should do the trick.
I don't know, really. It shouldn't be starting up like that... I almost said under Accounts/Sync disable it but, that doesn't make sense. It shouldn't be there.
Have you tried uninstalling it completely... and reinstalling when necessary?
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Uninstall and reinstall is too long when I need to use it.
I use Autostarts to manage what loads at startup on my phone. Works great for me.
Is there another way than autostarts like a script to mod ?

What Bloatware Safe To Remove: Verizon S3

Is there a list of what Bloatware is safe to remove from Verizon Galaxy S3?
I ran across this spreadsheet the other day but don't recall which thread the link was from.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AqTvctlW89DtdC1qVUlLeVFTV3ZOdUtDclpBdVRQOUE&pli=1#gid=0
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I ran across this spreadsheet the other day but don't recall which thread the link was from.
GOOGLE DOCS LINK (BLEH NEWBIE USER IS LAME)
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Another noob question...What is the difference between freezing an app and uninstalling one? I mean, it's a bit obvious, but also a bit vague...
My first few questions are rather broad/major... What's the different between a "package" and a ".APK" based on the spreadsheet being linked? Does freezing keep the process from restarting upon rebooting the phone??
Do I want to freeze apps that I want to keep for possible future use? Uninstall is for anything I want to get rid of completely and never plan to use, correct? I likely know the answers to these...But I also read that freezing an app is better and frees up more system resources than uninstalling....how can that be true? I assume uninstalling an app also "freezes" it, AKA stops it from processing...Correct?
So apps I might want in the future, like clock widgets, I just want to freeze, correct? Same for calender, calculator, etc?
On the other hand, I was to uninstall items like VZW Navigator, correct?
Sorry for redundent questions but I'm just making sure I do everything right.
Weioo said:
Another noob question...What is the difference between freezing an app and uninstalling one? I mean, it's a bit obvious, but also a bit vague...
My first few questions are rather broad/major... What's the different between a "package" and a ".APK" based on the spreadsheet being linked? Does freezing keep the process from restarting upon rebooting the phone??
Do I want to freeze apps that I want to keep for possible future use? Uninstall is for anything I want to get rid of completely and never plan to use, correct? I likely know the answers to these...But I also read that freezing an app is better and frees up more system resources than uninstalling....how can that be true? I assume uninstalling an app also "freezes" it, AKA stops it from processing...Correct?
So apps I might want in the future, like clock widgets, I just want to freeze, correct? Same for calender, calculator, etc?
On the other hand, I was to uninstall items like VZW Navigator, correct?
Sorry for redundent questions but I'm just making sure I do everything right.
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From what I understand, freezing essentially deactivates the app. As long as the app is frozen, it should not start, regardless if your phone reboots. If you freeze the app, it will still be there, just not working where as uninstalling it will completely remove the app. If you are not sure if you want it, just freeze it.
Freeze disables it and leaves it in the rom and usually hides from app drawer. Uninstall deletes it from rom making rom footprint smaller but saves it in TIBU backup folder. Defrost re-enables app in rom. Uninstalled apps can be reinstalled from TIBU. Bottom line frozen app is still in rom thus not actually debloated just disabled. Uninstalled is removed from rom but saved by TIBU thus debloated.
hi all,
hope this is the right forum.
I´ve rooted my samsung s3 lte today and uninstalled some apps (bloatware). but i´ve made a mistake: my statusbar is away!!
i guess i unsinstalled an samsung feature.
can you help me?
thx
i´ve made a backup with titanium before uninstalling but it didn´t solve the problem
keiloff said:
hi all,
hope this is the right forum.
I´ve rooted my samsung s3 lte today and uninstalled some apps (bloatware). but i´ve made a mistake: my statusbar is away!!
i guess i unsinstalled an samsung feature.
can you help me?
thx
i´ve made a backup with titanium before uninstalling but it didn´t solve the problem
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reflash the rom over your setup
omair2005 said:
reflash the rom over your setup
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Sorry i´m a noob. wich setup?
i used the "Samsung_Galaxy_S3_ToolKit_v7.0" to root it. Then i reflashed the stock via odin, didn´t work.
AW: What Bloatware Safe To Remove: Verizon S3
Maybe there is an app wich i can install.
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AW: What Bloatware Safe To Remove: Verizon S3
Problem solved. I deleted some samsung apps (dont know how) and restored them manually out of my titanium backup.
Thx for your help.
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I know this is an old thread, but does anyone have an updated list for TW 4.3?
I have this link
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqTvctlW89DtdC1qVUlLeVFTV3ZOdUtDclpBdVRQOUE&pli=1#gid=0
but it's clearly old as I don't see listings for Cloud and Backup Assistant Plus, which appear to be some Verizon (not Samsung) backup options.
Anyone have a current list?

how to stop auto starting apps?

currently, i'm using hotmail apps and espn fc apps.
the problem is, they keep auto start by themselves, is there any way to stop that?
thanks.
Use es task manager and disable the app you want in startup manager
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I havent found a way to stop the hotmail app so I just uninstalled it. Its really annoying since I dont use push notification so why should it always be running.
You can use either Autostarts and Gemini App Manager to do that.
polobunny said:
You can use either Autostarts and Gemini App Manager to do that.
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Autostarts is the better of the two IMO. ROM Manager also has the functionality built into it.
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mrengineer said:
the problem is, they keep auto start by themselves, is there any way to stop that?
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I feel you, man. I'm also annoyed with apps that just keep running in the background no matter what I do. In my case, these are apps like Facebook and Google Maps. What I do with them, since there are instances where I actually need them to, is just freeze them using Titanium Backup and then defrost them when I want or need to use them. It's a bit cumbersome but at least I can have the best of both worlds - use of the apps when I need them and said apps not using precious resources when I don't. < via xda app>
apatal said:
I feel you, man. I'm also annoyed with apps that just keep running in the background no matter what I do. In my case, these are apps like Facebook and Google Maps. What I do with them, since there are instances where I actually need them to, is just freeze them using Titanium Backup and then defrost them when I want or need to use them. It's a bit cumbersome but at least I can have the best of both worlds - use of the apps when I need them and said apps not using precious resources when I don't. < via xda app>
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This is exactly what I do as well. I have them on my phone (because downloading when you need them is silly), but use TB and freeze them. You don't ever see them but they are there for when you need them. Weather apps, FB, Poweramp, etc. They are always running stealing RAM and battery.
apatal said:
I feel you, man. I'm also annoyed with apps that just keep running in the background no matter what I do. In my case, these are apps like Facebook and Google Maps. What I do with them, since there are instances where I actually need them to, is just freeze them using Titanium Backup and then defrost them when I want or need to use them. It's a bit cumbersome but at least I can have the best of both worlds - use of the apps when I need them and said apps not using precious resources when I don't. < via xda app>
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jayjay3333 said:
This is exactly what I do as well. I have them on my phone (because downloading when you need them is silly), but use TB and freeze them. You don't ever see them but they are there for when you need them. Weather apps, FB, Poweramp, etc. They are always running stealing RAM and battery.
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A tip for both of you guys, if you don't know:
You can create a widget with Titanium Backup, select Titanium Backup (Actions), Action, scroll up a bit and select Freeze/Defrost/Launch an app. Select the app and choose Facebook or any other app you want to freeze.
What will this do? When you click the 1x1 widget, it will defrost the app and automagically launch it. When you exit and click it again, it will freeze the app. Reclicking it will defrost and launch and so on. Makes it much less cumbersome.
polobunny said:
A tip for both of you guys, if you don't know:
You can create a widget with Titanium Backup, select Titanium Backup (Actions), Action, scroll up a bit and select Freeze/Defrost/Launch an app. Select the app and choose Facebook or any other app you want to freeze.
What will this do? When you click the 1x1 widget, it will defrost the app and automagically launch it. When you exit and click it again, it will freeze the app. Reclicking it will defrost and launch and so on. Makes it much less cumbersome.
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Nice find. I had no idea that feature existed. It is a lot less steps isn't it. Thanks for that polobunny.
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jayjay3333 said:
Nice find. I had no idea that feature existed. It is a lot less steps isn't it. Thanks for that polobunny.
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No problem!
Totally fell on it by accident myself, Titanium Backup really is a great app.
another app (requires root) is rom toolbox:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wxLDMsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkubGliZXJ0eS50b29sYm94Il0.
it also has an autostart manager!
WIth CM10 I can completely kill facebook and google maps by long pressing the back button. They dont automatically restart like they would if you just force stop them.
Gambler_3 said:
WIth CM10 I can completely kill facebook and google maps by long pressing the back button. They dont automatically restart like they would if you just force stop them.
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That's the same as going in the app details and Force stopping the app.
Doesn't stop Maps from restarting if you have location services enabled of just prefetcherservice feeling like it should be prefetching.
yea rom toolbox for me
polobunny said:
No problem!
Totally fell on it by accident myself, Titanium Backup really is a great app.
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Thanks for the tip, man. TiBu is indeed a very robust tool. It's the most worthwhile purchase I've ever made from the Play Store and I doubt I take advantage of half of what it can do. < via xda app>
Has someone compared LBE security master & ROM toolbox ? LBE inconvenient is that it is always on so...

Deleting Google Apps

Hi all. Quick question; searched and didn't find a response. So...
There are a few Google apps I'd really like to lose. Namely Play Books, Play Movies/TV, Play Newstand, and Play Games. I'm never going to use them, so I'd just as soon uninstall them. My question is can I uninstall these through Titanium Backup or are they crucial system apps that I should just leave alone and learn to live with?
Thanks!
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
experience7 said:
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
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I freeze every one of those apps with Titanium backup every time I install gaaps or return to stock. No issues with them frozen on N5 at all.
experience7 said:
You can deactivate them in settings -> apps. You will not gain more storage, but the apps will disappear. They can be enabled again of course
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I never thought about that. Thanks! :highfive: I feel so dumb...
Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
Actually, all deactivating them in Apps does is uninstall the updates. They're still there.
experience7 said:
Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
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The advantage in freezing them is you retain the ability to take OTA updates without reflashing system.
Jason_MCG said:
Actually, all deactivating them in Apps does is uninstall the updates. They're still there.
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Titanium Backup is worth the price. The UI is terrible. Still can't find a replacement I'm happy with.
experience7 said:
Well, I don't see any advantage in freezing them with TiBa. Of course it works flawlessly, but my method also does plus you don't need a third-party app
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I would think most people who are active on these threads chose a nexus for ease of changing ROMS. I would lose my mind doing that without the pro version of TiBu. Have it anyway so used it. Also, freeze is nice because I can quickly thaw out a memory hog program, use it as I need to and then quickly refreeze it with all data in tact.
Aerowinder said:
The advantage in freezing them is you retain the ability to take OTA updates without reflashing system.
Titanium Backup is worth the price. The UI is terrible. Still can't find a replacement I'm happy with.
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Of course it is - bought it years ago.
You can delete any app with the full version of Titanium Backup.
But I'm pretty sure that you can disable them like I mentioned above and still receive OTA's Am I wrong?

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