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[Poll] Micro Arc Oxidation failure

This is just a poll thread to gather some statistics about the HTC One S body issue.
Please, vote only if you are using the device for some days (3 and more) and do not vote if you have a brand new phone out from the box.
And, if you would have this issue after your "Not issued" vote, please, leave a comment.
Thank you.
Discussion thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589364
P.S Moderators, please, merge this thread with the disscusion one.

SH23, 5 days, no issue YET
Hi,
I've been using my black One S during 5 days.
SH23 with no real issue yet, except that the USB port edges have some "micro" clear spots
I still voted "no issue" because its much smaller than what is shown on the pictures.
Hopefully this pole will be merged with the other thread

We've started a poll yesterday in a german thread. Results are:
Black issued: 40
Black not issued: 27
Silver issues: 2
Silver not issued: 10
Total number: 79
The two cases with "silver issued" hab no problem with the unibody, but the plastic sim-cover. As far as I know all devices have HT23 or SH23 SN.
http://www.android-hilfe.de/htc-one-s-forum/poll-956-hat-lackschaeden-am-htc-one-s-nicht.html

Good initiative. Hope it gets merged

I do not want to piss in the pool here, but over in the MAO failure discussion thread it was recently mentioned that the first 4 digits do not tell us anything but year and month of manufacture. It takes the first 5 to really peg it down to the exactly to the day of manufacturing.
Also I am not sure if it makes sense to throw both of the sites of manufacture into one put. HT stands for a Taiwan factory and SH for... I forgot - Shenzhen or Shanghai I think.
I think for this to be useful it should take into account the first 5 digits AND separate the locations. My reasoning: the SH facility might have had a "good" (non issued batch) during three days of March, while the HT facility produced issued phones on those dates. Then, later on, the HT facility may have had a few good days, while the SH facility put out crap. With the current setup this is meddled up and there is not really much info to be gathered, except the overall percentage of ppl who have issues with the devices made in March in both locations. It does not indicate whether SH or HT is better or worse.
Of course this would make for a complete overkill of poll options. (Assuming the first were made on the first of March it would take 30 options for each facility).
Suggestion: Change or close this thread and create a new one with the poll options "No issues (yet)" - "Major issues" - "Minor issues" and maybe a second poll asking when the first issues were noticed ("First day", "within 3 days", "within 5 days" etc.)
And then request users the users to post a picture or at least a description of the issues (at top edge, around all edges, around sim cover, around USB Port) and the first 5 digits. Then the entire thing would be much easier to follow and notice trends.
Of course that would require moderator or someone with permanent editing rights to take in all the new posts and add them to some sort of list / table in the First Post for easy reference.
But if done this way it would probably make for a useful source of info even for HTC engineers, becaue from what I gather a lot of ppl who have this problem and post in the debate thread are not ready or willing or able to send in their phones just yet for inspection by HTC.
Just my 2 cents
Just my two cents.

I'm quite short on time but wanted to quickly provide the recent numbers:
Black issued: 46
Black not issued: 32
Silver issues: 2
Silver not issued: 10
Total number: 90
But: I agree absolutely on the fact that SNs are not helping much right here!

psych0t1c, I think you are right about the S/N. It`s just the first batches. But the poll options with "days used" is not so good, cause some users are more careful than others
All we can do, is just collect the stats "Issued / Not issued". And ofcourse it`ll be very good if people post the photos and comment on if these scratches appeared after they had already voted.

psych0t1c said:
I do not want to piss in the pool here, but over in the MAO failure discussion thread it was recently mentioned that the first 4 digits do not tell us anything but year and month of manufacture. It takes the first 5 to really peg it down to the exactly to the day of manufacturing.
Also I am not sure if it makes sense to throw both of the sites of manufacture into one put. HT stands for a Taiwan factory and SH for... I forgot - Shenzhen or Shanghai I think.
I think for this to be useful it should take into account the first 5 digits AND separate the locations. My reasoning: the SH facility might have had a "good" (non issued batch) during three days of March, while the HT facility produced issued phones on those dates. Then, later on, the HT facility may have had a few good days, while the SH facility put out crap. With the current setup this is meddled up and there is not really much info to be gathered, except the overall percentage of ppl who have issues with the devices made in March in both locations. It does not indicate whether SH or HT is better or worse.
Of course this would make for a complete overkill of poll options. (Assuming the first were made on the first of March it would take 30 options for each facility).
Suggestion: Change or close this thread and create a new one with the poll options "No issues (yet)" - "Major issues" - "Minor issues" and maybe a second poll asking when the first issues were noticed ("First day", "within 3 days", "within 5 days" etc.)
And then request users the users to post a picture or at least a description of the issues (at top edge, around all edges, around sim cover, around USB Port) and the first 5 digits. Then the entire thing would be much easier to follow and notice trends.
Of course that would require moderator or someone with permanent editing rights to take in all the new posts and add them to some sort of list / table in the First Post for easy reference.
But if done this way it would probably make for a useful source of info even for HTC engineers, becaue from what I gather a lot of ppl who have this problem and post in the debate thread are not ready or willing or able to send in their phones just yet for inspection by HTC.
Just my 2 cents
Just my two cents.
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You make a very valid point, but it could very well be for nothing as well. For example the phones prone to this error could be within each batch much like processors, where the ones of lesser quality are sold as lower-end models.
My point being, we could put a lot of effort in this but the best thing is to just make a huge deal out of it so HTC will solve it for us. Of course feel free to go along, the data should be interesting anyhow

OldЕr said:
This is just a poll thread to gather some statistics about the HTC One S body issue.
Please, vote only if you are using the device for some days (3 and more) and do not vote if you have a brand new phone out from the box.
And, if you would have this issue after your "Not issued" vote, please, leave a comment.
Thank you.
Discussion thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589364
P.S Moderators, please, merge this thread with the disscusion one.
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Decided not to merge. I see you have already provided a link to the other thread and this one is closed. That should suffice
Rick

One review to rule them all - incl. tons of app reviews.

Check out this review (and hit the Thanks button once you've read it and realized how awesome it is):
http://www.appsandroid.dk/joomla/gu...ony-smartwatch-2-tanker-tips-til-apps-mm.html
Mind you, it's in Danish, but just read it using Chrome auto-translate, which doesn't screw too much with the comprehension as far as I can tell.
World's longest and most thorough review of our beloved wrist genie (Top 10 most read article of the year on the biggest Android website in Denmark which has 80-100,000 readers a month and 6-8 articles per day and it wasn't even posted till October 7). There's also reviews of screen protectors incl. links to purchase and links to all apps reviewed, so you can just open them and add them to your Google Play Wishlist, so you can easily find them on your phone later. There are lots of pictures for those considering the outdoor visibility and comparison shots with a normal sized man's watch. Photos display the metal band version incl. links to a great to-do video of how to shorten the metal strap. Also links to Sony support and feedback from the very responsive support. Sony themselves even said thanks for a great review, so I'm not just pulling this out of my ass, so to speak
Chrome got a lot better at translating in recent years and also Danish is very similar to English in sentence structure which makes any translation much more accurate than German with its odd sentence structure with the verb at the end, which always trips up Google Translate (so badly so that I mostly end up using my crappy 9th grade level German from 20 years ago when shopping through the German version of Amazon in order to not get the opposite meaning of the original text).
I apologize for not posting this back in October. Well, better late than never, right?

Also here's a couple of useful posts. Those hatin' on Google+ must be those who don't actually use it for what it's great for, namely the free-wheelin' exchange of ideas, helpful hints and recommendations. Pay it forward and all that :angel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735718
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/...6008115988060526450&oid=111835435217155668948
https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/112951098198989411354 (main Smartwatch 2 community page)
We're at 997 members so far, come on and join in so we can get to a clean one thousand

This has to be the best bumper for the S6..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DvhljsZY88
looks like it makes the phone about 1000x stronger…!

fanny，happy father's day!

Why are you guys so bad at promoting your product? Stop pretending not to work for Rhino Guard. Are there rules against posting something like: "Are you looking for a case? Check out this video review of our product, the Rhino Guard S6 Bumper"?
I have this case and I really like it, but your marketing on XDA is just weird. Also - I bought it because of some Yahoo review of the iPhone 5 version, not because of your strange XDA marketing tactics.
Edit: and now that I look at OP's post history, maybe he/she doesn't work for Rhino Guard. If so, my bad. It was just a weird post and weird reply.

KWoods41 said:
Why are you guys so bad at promoting your product? Stop pretending not to work for Rhino Guard. Are there rules against posting something like: "Are you looking for a case? Check out this video review of our product, the Rhino Guard S6 Bumper"?
I have this case and I really like it, but your marketing on XDA is just weird. Also - I bought it because of some Yahoo review of the iPhone 5 version, not because of your strange XDA marketing tactics.
Edit: and now that I look at OP's post history, maybe he/she doesn't work for Rhino Guard. If so, my bad. It was just a weird post and weird reply.
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As far as I can tell they've done almost no marketing for the s6. I was almost going to write them for a review sample as I'm interested in this bumper, but the limited reviews and pictures was definitely holding me back. The video was a very good and needed demonstration

mrapp said:
As far as I can tell they've done almost no marketing for the s6. I was almost going to write them for a review sample as I'm interested in this bumper, but the limited reviews and pictures was definitely holding me back. The video was a very good and needed demonstration
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Right. That's what has me kind of put off by them. If you want to promote your product, you should be sending out review units and getting stories out there - not posting negative comments in threads about other products (which is their typical move here on XDA).
I should point out that Android Central did a review on them a little while ago, if you're still looking for one.

KWoods41 said:
Right. That's what has me kind of put off by them. If you want to promote your product, you should be sending out review units and getting stories out there - not posting negative comments in threads about other products (which is their typical move here on XDA).
I should point out that Android Central did a review on them a little while ago, if you're still looking for one.
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I'm not sure I would call what Android Central posted a review Regardless, I just took the jump -- the promo code from the video didn't hurt

This video looks great, how much is the case?

tomatoguy said:
This video looks great, how much is the case?
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Link is with the video.

Wrong topic

Thanks.

OP8 vs 7T vs Nord

My 6T is on its last legs, there is something wrong with the phone reception, everyone tells me that they can barely understand me when I am on the phone (but not on Whatsapp or other VOIP apps).
Things that are important to me, arranged in order of priority
a) Best in class battery life
b) Rootable - the only two mods I do that require root are install AdBlocker and AFWall+, then I Magisk hide the InTune crap
c) 6.4-6.5" screen - smaller is too small, larger requires 2-handed opertion
d) Screen that is readable in daylight - the 6T really struggles there
e) Reasonable update schedule
f) Clean-ish Android experience
g) $800 or less price, preferably $600 or less
Things that are a don't care
1) Camera - the phone is a utility camera for me, when I want great pics I reach for a real camera
2) High pixel count or referesh rate - I mostly read news/blogs/articles on the phone
3) 5G - it ain't gonna be viable in the US for a few years, so why pay for something that just sucks battery and does nothing useful
4) Selfie lens, optical telephoto, portrait mode, etc - see #1 above
Based on the above the Nord hits all the right specs, but I am going to have to take a flier on importing it via some shady channel.
By all accounts the Pixel4a is a good phone with a sh*tty battery. The Pixel 4 is a great phone with a marginal battery. And battery is #1 for me.
Samsung prices are ridiculous
Moto software updates are non-existent
Which kind of leaves me with the OP line. From what I have read the primary difference between the 7T and the 8 is the 5G and a slight QCOM processor upgrade, which I don't care about. At this point the 8 will also get software updates a year or so longer than the 7T. But I can get the 7T for $450 tax free from B&H, while the 8 will set me back a minimum of $700+tax, for allegedly a very similar phone .
Am I missing any other important differences between the 7T and the 8?
Any suggestions on where to "safely" get a Nord?
Any other phones I should cosnider?
TIA

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@GroovyGeek THREAD CLOSED as duplicate of https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-nord/help/nord-vs-8-vs-7t-t4153317#post83358647 and https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/7t-vs-8-vs-nord-t4153313, although the first one has also been closed and the latter one moved to the General forum.
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Nord vs 8 vs 7T

My 6T is on its last legs, there is something wrong with the phone reception, everyone tells me that they can barely understand me when I am on the phone (but not on Whatsapp or other VOIP apps).
Things that are important to me, arranged in order of priority
a) Best in class battery life
b) Rootable - the only two mods I do that require root are install AdBlocker and AFWall+, then I Magisk hide the InTune crap
c) 6.4-6.5" screen - smaller is too small, larger requires 2-handed opertion
d) Screen that is readable in daylight - the 6T really struggles there
e) Reasonable update schedule
f) Clean-ish Android experience
g) $800 or less price, preferably $600 or less
Things that are a don't care
1) Camera - the phone is a utility camera for me, when I want great pics I reach for a real camera
2) High pixel count or referesh rate - I mostly read news/blogs/articles on the phone
3) 5G - it ain't gonna be viable in the US for a few years, so why pay for something that just sucks battery and does nothing useful
4) Selfie lens, optical telephoto, portrait mode, etc - see #1 above
Based on the above the Nord hits all the right specs, but I am going to have to take a flier on importing it via some shady channel.
By all accounts the Pixel4a is a good phone with a sh*tty battery. The Pixel 4 is a great phone with a marginal battery. And battery is #1 for me.
Samsung prices are ridiculous
Moto software updates are non-existent
Which kind of leaves me with the OP line. From what I have read the primary difference between the 7T and the 8 is the 5G and a slight QCOM processor upgrade, which I don't care about. At this point the 8 will also get software updates a year or so longer than the 7T. But I can get the 7T for $450 tax free from B&H, while the 8 will set me back a minimum of $700+tax, for allegedly a very similar phone .
Am I missing any other important differences between the 7T and the 8?
Any suggestions on where to "safely" get a Nord in the US?
Any other phones I should cosnider?
TIA

I think you may have to wait for special Nord launch in US with snapdragon 665/662. Price about 300usd or chose Google pixel 4a with 765g snap. Smart chose. Nord wins for me cuz it's cheapest phone with best oxygen os experience. One Plus switch (APK) rock!

i would think 7T is the model to go after..
8 is as you mentioned not much an upgrade except in the price domain..
for nord (or its vairant) no matter which is imported into the US will be (subjectively) slightly worse than 7T anyway..
as an OT note, i just got myself a nord with a nearly identical set of criteria (and dis-criteria)..

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@GroovyGeek THREAD CLOSED as duplicate of https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8/help/op8-vs-7t-vs-nord-t4153315 and https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/7t-vs-8-vs-nord-t4153313, although the first one has also been closed and the latter one moved to the General forum.
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