Hi,
So, I was planning to go for the Note 10 plus but it's price has not decreased much even after the launch of the S21 series https://www.samsung.com/in/smartpho...y-note10-plus-aura-glow-256gb-sm-n975fzsdins/ Is the Note 10 lite worth it's price? It is about 20000 inr or $265 usd cheaper than the plus one. I can live with the plastic body (as a case will be used), the lower end camera is fine but the processor and no ois is a big turn off. Also I read somewhere that the note 10 plus is more 5g ready than the note 10 lite meaning the plus one supports more 5g bands. Is it true? Ofcourse a "pure 5g" phone is months away. Any suggestions?
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In my country it is a challenge to get new flagship phones shortly after launch. For that reason, I tend to resort to eBay.
At this stage I can get a 256GB Galaxy Note 10 with 8GB RAM for U$900 or the 256GB Note 10+ with 12GB RAM for U$1030. (shipped)
In comparison, the best price I can find on the Huawei is the 128GB Mate 30 Pro with 8GB RAM in black for U$1100. (shipped)
The Huawei Mate 30 Pro has better camera hardware and Face ID technology but otherwise the Note 10+ has more storage, more RAM, MicroSD slot, dual speakers, higher resolution display, S-Pen and Google Mobile Services.
I really would like a Mate 30 Pro but I honestly think that Huawei is just asking too much. The phone is great but it isn't the best in every aspect of the hardware and it's unfortunately unable to use Google services.
It is not reasonable to ask U$1100 for the Mate 30 Pro.
If it was priced at U$850 - 900, I would probably have made the purchase already but instead, I'm contemplating the Note 10 despite having my heart set on the Mate 30 Pro.
Do you agree?
Wait a bit more time to buy it. HW sell at much lower price in China and Malaysia
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Seems China price is about 30% less than Europe($810USD). If you can get someone buy you one and send to US, you probably end up paying $920-950USD(shipped) for 128GB 4G version.
And don't treat this piece of electronics same as other cheap product you found in Walmart made in China.
price on aliexpress with the Broken screen insurance
Honestly, if it's going to be hard to get Google services on this phone, then it can't compete with other flagships. Would need a massive discount for it to be considered good value.
Is there really that big a different between those two??
So far I can see there is no big different between the camera ??
999 euro for the pro.
1399 euro for the pro plus.
5 things are different:
The pro+ comes with 256gb extra storage, totalling 512gb. Since neither phones support microsd cards, it might be worth to upgrade for extra storage.
The pro+ comes with a ceramic back, instead of glass. So it wont shatter or break like glass, and can also apprantly be even more scratch resistant, while retaining the smoothness of glass.
The pro+ comes with a extra camera, that does 3x optical zoom.
The pro+ replaces the 5x optical zoom of the pro to a 10x optical zoom camera.
The pro+ comes with a little bit faster wireless charging.
Earlier post suggested that it also comes with 4gb extra ram, totalling at 12gb, this is not the case.
It's really personal preference if you want one of these features. Since the p40 pro and pro+ do not support microsd, i might need the extra storage for the games series and the lot of photo's i take. I'm quite a power user.
The extra zoom will also be quite special and certainly unique in a phone, until a competitor ofcource adds it to their phone as well. But i can see it staying a premium feature at a premium price for the whole of 2020 and first half of 2021.
The ceramic back is also welcome, since i shattered the back glass of 2 phones already while riding a rollercoaster, while i never had this problem with the iphones i owned, but never shattered front displays on any phone. I don't like to use cases. i have good insurance.
I can't care much about the extra wireless charging speed though.
So for me, while it is a extreme price, i will get the pro +. But...only if i see the normal pro thats almost released can properly handle google apps with everything working. Time will tell when users get their hands on the devices.
You can also add an NM card in the second SIM slot. The biggest you get is 256GB. If you want to add the NM but also need two SIM-cards, there is the option of using eSIM. Thirdparty NM just go up to 128GB for about 40€ and Huawei itself produces 256GB for 100€.
I think it isnot worth to pay an extra 400€, if you don't need the camera and the wireless charging with 40W but the extra space.
Just my opinion.
Flexorista said:
You can also add an NM card in the second SIM slot. The biggest you get is 256GB. If you want to add the NM but also need two SIM-cards, there is the option of using eSIM. Thirdparty NM just go up to 128GB for about 40€ and Huawei itself produces 256GB for 100€.
I think it isnot worth to pay an extra 400€, if you don't need the camera and the wireless charging with 40W but the extra space.
Just my opinion.
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you need a new reader then as well(unless phone-only usage), and NM cards are double the price of microsd cards, and dont come in higher then 256gb at retail stores at least.
No i'd rather go for 400 euro more for 256gb extra AND then get the other features as well.
When can you buy the p40 pro+?
SmartphoneRAT said:
When can you buy the p40 pro+?
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month of june i heard
I purchased days ago a Mate 30 Pro and it shocked me for the quality of the camera... amazing.
sev7en said:
I purchased days ago a Mate 30 Pro and it shocked me for the quality of the camera... amazing.
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im confused you purchased a mate 30 pro p 40 pro
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im confused you purchased a mate 30 pro p 40 pro
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I think Mate 30 Pro is better for some, less for others... I watched a lot of video and I don't think P40 supersead Mate 30 Pro.
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I think Mate 30 Pro is better for some, less for others... I watched a lot of video and I don't think P40 supersead Mate 30 Pro.
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it did
look here https://www.dxomark.com/category/smartphone-reviews/
2 years have gone by and my OnePlus 7T Pro despite its gorgeous full-screen display and privacy pop-up camera is disappointing me. I have 5G coverage now, want a 120 Hz display, AOD and a better camera. It served me well since April 2020 but the lack of software support, OnePlus' direction and other things pushed me away.
I tried to decide between the S21 Ultra and the Pixel 6 Pro, but the Pixel's software issues, lack of a macro camera and other little things made me choose the S21 Ultra.
Now to the real thing
At our retail store MediaMarkt I could get the S22 Ultra 256GB for € 1249 (instead of € 134) + Galaxy Buds Pro that I could sell. But only until February 24th. The S21 Ultra 256 GB is € 1099 new and € 980 used but like new. 128 GB is not an option (especially due to 8 GB RAM on the S22 Ultra).
I consider the S-Pen a gimmick I might use every now and then but not a deal breaker.
I don't really like curved displays so the less the better.
I struggle between having a tested phone with mostly stable software vs. being early adopter. Also the S22 Ultra is going to get Android 13 faster and longer support.
I'm not sure how comfortable the boxy design of the S22 Ultra is as my last boxy design was the iPhone 5 probably
The price difference by selling the Galaxy Buds Pro would be something like € 1170 vs. € 1099 (but the S21 Ultra will drop in price soon I guess). In the best case scenario it would be € 80 price difference. It truly is tempting but I'm hesistant on pulling the trigger. If I were to do it, I would receive it on March 12th with a 14 day return window.
I could try the S22 Ultra in store already and will do so again tomorrow. Maybe someone has some arguments and valid points to make or was in the same position I am now. Feel free to also tell me why you pulled or didn't pull the trigger.
(Also due to bootloader unlocks, warranty, import and other factors, I am only considering the Exynos variants of both devices. If it turns out rooting is kind of an issue, I would go S21 Ultra either way as I do not have any time to deal with using the stock software and wiping weeks later to finally being able to root).
I particularly have not and will not pul the plug on my order, honestly I had the N20U and S21U and I liked the N20U design more but loved the S21 specs. For me the S22U is a winner combining both phones. I know there will be bugs but the same happened with S21 Ultra and it's just a matter of being patient.
I do use the SPEN with no issues (favorite feature of the note of course).
For anyone else wondering: I've decided to go with the S21 Ultra. I've got both and tested them.
There were several reasons (keep in mind I'm coming from a OnePlus 7T Pro):
No important use-case for the S Pen for me (I got a € 26 used one for the S21 Ultra and will keep it in my backpack)
Display brightness is the same. The only difference is that the S22 Ultra allows a higher manual brightness but even when adaptive brightness is off, both S21 Ultra and S22 Ultra will detect a high ambient brightness and ramp up the extra mile despite not having adaptive mode on. There is no reason for me to manually trigger it in moderate lit environments.
The S22 Ultra is a bit wider and its boxy shape makes one handed use almost impossible while with the S21 Ultra it is possible for me.
I got the S21 Ultra for € 900 "like new" meaning it has been opened and then returned. The S22 Ultra would be at least € 1150 even with selling the Galaxy Buds Pro.
Exynos 2100 vs 2200 in my tests was hilarious. Single core performance in Geekbench on the S22 Ultra was very low sometimes and the device got hot (already installed the day one patch though. CPU were almost the same only OpenCL was better with the S22 Ultra. A CPU stress test running for 15 minutes resulted in 2% average difference but the S21 Ultra wasn't dropping as quickly and had higher results when throttling.
I did have some stuttering and lagging when apps were installed in the background or while the CPU is doing something in the background. This doesn't happen with the S21 Ultra. It seems like the Exynos 2200 has issues with multiple tasks. This could be fixed with an update I guess, but I don't buy a device in the hopes that it will be fixed in the future. If it were a hardware issue, I'm very much out of luck.
If I get my pre-order device from Samsung's online shop, I definitely shouldn't root it right away as it wouldn't terminate the warranty in Europe, but certainly the 14 day return window. I don't want to test the device for a few days or even set it up just to wipe it again.
Only thing that I couldn't confirm is that the S22 Ultra has a high AOD idle drain. The battery drain with AOD was the same at 1.1%/h and about 0.3–0.5%/h without AOD.
In the end I thought: is the € 300 price difference worth it? My answer was no. Deciding between both devices when the S21 Ultra is about € 1099 and the S22 Ultra € 1212 - Galaxy Buds Pro (I had a 10% coupon) would be another story. But saving € 200 for a 14 day return device is a good deal in my opinion and brings me closer to realistic phone prices. 2 years ago I struggled to pay € 750 for the OnePlus 7T Pro. Paying over € 1000 or even € 1200 is simply too much.
It's odd that the higher the prices are, the higher the tolerance for price differences become. If I were to decide between a € 300 and a € 600 phone, I would be much more hesitant to buy the expensive one while something like € 1100 and € 1400 suddenly becomes less of an issue. It's still a lot of money even though the proportion is different. Maybe this thread and post helped someone decide. Who knows
Anyone here have a RedMagic phone? How are they? Do they work with a lot of US carriers? I kind of want to use a budget carrier like Boost for $25 a month, but I may go back to Mint because it gets better service.
That new RedMagic 8 looks sexy if you ask me. Even the 7S Pro doesn't look too bad.I love the no notch display. Has some kind of cooling system in it.
8 has Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, 6000mAh battery (dual 3000mAh), 65w fast charting, 12 or 16GB memory, 6.8" screen.
The 7S Pro has Snapdragon 8 Gen 1, 5000mAh battery, 12 or 18GB memory, 6.8" screen.
Hi all.
I'm currently looking for a new phone, and currently have 3 choices.
Honor Magic 5 Pro 512GB: USD 930 (Honor Official)
Samsung S22 Ultra 256GB: About USD 600 (Like New Second-hand with no warranty)
OnePlus 11 256GB: About USD 812 (OnePlus Official)
Which one is a better value for money? Appreciate all comments, thanks.
salted.caramel said:
Hi all.
I'm currently looking for a new phone, and currently have 3 choices.
Honor Magic 5 Pro 512GB: USD 930 (Honor Official)
Samsung S22 Ultra 256GB: About USD 600 (Like New Second-hand with no warranty)
OnePlus 11 256GB: About USD 812 (OnePlus Official)
Which one is a better value for money? Appreciate all comments, thanks.
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I would never buy a used phone. No way to know how it was used by the previous owner.
S22U would have been my pick had it been new.
I don't have too much idea about the software on Honor device. But it is a very good phone based on reviews.
In this case, I'll go with OnePlus 11 just to be on the safe side.
Have you considered other phones like Vivo X90 and iQOO 11?
Ah, the vivo and iqoo aren't available in the region, but the s22u is "Certified" by the marketplace app.
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Ah, the vivo and iqoo aren't available in the region, but the s22u is "Certified" by the marketplace app.
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Those certifications mean nothing. Avoid a used phone if you can.
How about a brand new for USD740? Is it worth it? I'm concerned about the soc mainly...
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How about a brand new for USD740? Is it worth it? I'm concerned about the soc mainly...
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The S22U tends to run slightly warmer. The battery life is average at best. On an average, I get about 5 hours SOT (mostly on WiFi) and a standby time of about 15 hours when the battery is at 15%. They have sorted this out on the S23U, so if you can stretch your budget, you should consider getting that instead.
Everything else is excellent, even if the software has a few bugs here and there.
Between the S22U and the OnePlus 11, I'll go with the S22U only because of it's cameras (S-Pen is a bonus). This is not to say that the OnePlus 11 cameras are bad. They are very good too. But the S22U is better.
OnePlus 11 has the better SOC and lighter software on its side. So it will give you a snappier performance and better battery life.
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How about a brand new for USD740? Is it worth it? I'm concerned about the soc mainly...
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Brand new is better. If you read through the forums here, you'll read about people who bought used phones that were essentially paper weights because they were either stolen, or bought then resold without being paid off, and Samsung locked them.