Is the Huawee Mate 30 Pro value for money compared to other flagships? - Huawei Mate 30 Pro Questions & Answers

In my country it is a challenge to get new flagship phones shortly after launch. For that reason, I tend to resort to eBay.
At this stage I can get a 256GB Galaxy Note 10 with 8GB RAM for U$900 or the 256GB Note 10+ with 12GB RAM for U$1030. (shipped)
In comparison, the best price I can find on the Huawei is the 128GB Mate 30 Pro with 8GB RAM in black for U$1100. (shipped)
The Huawei Mate 30 Pro has better camera hardware and Face ID technology but otherwise the Note 10+ has more storage, more RAM, MicroSD slot, dual speakers, higher resolution display, S-Pen and Google Mobile Services.
I really would like a Mate 30 Pro but I honestly think that Huawei is just asking too much. The phone is great but it isn't the best in every aspect of the hardware and it's unfortunately unable to use Google services.
It is not reasonable to ask U$1100 for the Mate 30 Pro.
If it was priced at U$850 - 900, I would probably have made the purchase already but instead, I'm contemplating the Note 10 despite having my heart set on the Mate 30 Pro.
Do you agree?

Wait a bit more time to buy it. HW sell at much lower price in China and Malaysia
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Seems China price is about 30% less than Europe($810USD). If you can get someone buy you one and send to US, you probably end up paying $920-950USD(shipped) for 128GB 4G version.
And don't treat this piece of electronics same as other cheap product you found in Walmart made in China.

price on aliexpress with the Broken screen insurance

Honestly, if it's going to be hard to get Google services on this phone, then it can't compete with other flagships. Would need a massive discount for it to be considered good value.

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Mate 9 Pro released today in Scandinavia

If you as me is loving the design of the Mate 9 Porsche but not the price, there is good news. The Mate 9 Pro has been released today in Scandinavia at a event held in Copenhagen. The Mate 9 Pro is basically the Mate 9 Porsche without the Porsche branding, and at around half the price.
The Mate 9 Pro was released in China a few weeks ago, but it is great to see it released in Europe.
Avalible for preorder now, delivery starts on 20. of december.
Price 5.999 DKK (appx. 800 EUR) for 128 GB version. Preorders includes a pair of Huawei AM185 Active Noise Cancelling earphones.
Full specs: http://consumer.huawei.com/dk/support/products/technicalspecs/mate9pro-dk.htm
It's a nice phone but the screen size is to small for my tastes. Hopefully they will still release the same specs with a 5.9 inch form factor.
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Yep, 5.9 a must have!
EMF said:
If you as me is loving the design of the Mate 9 Porsche but not the price, there is good news. The Mate 9 Pro has been released today in Scandinavia at a event held in Copenhagen. The Mate 9 Pro is basically the Mate 9 Porsche without the Porsche branding, and at around half the price.
The Mate 9 Pro was released in China a few weeks ago, but it is great to see it released in Europe.
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At what price ?
Lodix said:
At what price ?
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5.999 DKK list price (about 800 EUR).
I have preordered with a 6 month contract a about 4.750 DKK / 640 EUR.
It is 128GB only + slot for SD card or a second sim (which I am going to use it for)
EMF said:
5.999 DKK list price (about 800 EUR).
I have preordered with a 6 month contract a about 4.750 DKK / 640 EUR.
It is 128GB only + slot for SD card or a second sim (which I am going to use it for)
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Please post sample photos when you receive it [emoji6]
I like a Mate series screen to be big ha ha
Quad HD would have been nice but full HD is good too in real life if you don`t use VR.
Any online shop taking preorders?
EMF said:
If you as me is loving the design of the Mate 9 Porsche but not the price, there is good news. The Mate 9 Pro has been released today in Scandinavia at a event held in Copenhagen. The Mate 9 Pro is basically the Mate 9 Porsche without the Porsche branding, and at around half the price.
The Mate 9 Pro was released in China a few weeks ago, but it is great to see it released in Europe.
Avalible for preorder now, delivery starts on 20. of december.
Price 5.999 DKK (appx. 800 EUR) for 128 GB version. Preorders includes a pair of Huawei AM185 Active Noise Cancelling earphones.
Full specs: http://consumer.huawei.com/dk/support/products/technicalspecs/mate9pro-dk.htm
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Please can you provide us the website to order this mobile ?
I second the motion. @EMF
medo18 said:
Please can you provide us the website to order this mobile ?
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Currently it is only available for pre-order. It will be delivered from december 20. It can be pre-ordered from most of the mobile service providers and a few tech-shops like http://www.elgiganten.dk/product/mo...T9PGY/huawei-mate-9-pro-smartphone-128-gb-gra and http://www.wupti.com/produkter/mobil,-gps-og-foto/mobiltelefoner/huawei/huawei-mate-9-pro-gold. I don't think they ship internationally thu, and the mobile service providers definitely dont.
The phone will probably be available from more shops after it becomes available for delivery.
It doesn't support SD card slot though. Neither does the Porsche edition apparently. They claim it's due to support for 3G/4G on the second SIM but from what I understand the regular Mate 9 does support both. Just wanted to throw that out there.
I'm currently strongly considering picking it up but I'm deeply concerned about dev support considering the Kirin SoC, multiple SKUs with varying specs and potentially few devs picking up the device due to price and availability.
The pro variant including porsche design scored less in performance and graphics compared to the full fledged Mate 9.
So choose what you want in your Mate 9. Performance or Looks.
Emerald Core said:
The pro variant including porsche design scored less in performance and graphics compared to the full fledged Mate 9.
So choose what you want in your Mate 9. Performance or Looks.
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That's a given. HIgher resolution display and the same chip in a bigger device usually gives a higher thermal headroom resulting in better benchmark scores but the difference should be negligible.
Trixanity said:
That's a given. HIgher resolution display and the same chip in a bigger device usually gives a higher thermal headroom resulting in better benchmark scores but the difference should be negligible.
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You know , I sold my Mate 9 for the only purpose of buying the Pro variant with 6gb/128 configuration.
Well until someone confirms that we can get a pro with Google play installed officially.
Emerald Core said:
You know , I sold my Mate 9 for the only purpose of buying the Pro variant with 6gb/128 configuration.
Well until someone confirms that we can get a pro with Google play installed officially.
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Well, as this thread indicates, the Pro can be bought with Google Play installed
(However, it will be released on December 20th, so that's a long way to go if you intend to install the Scandinavian ROM on what I assume is a Chinese variant?)
In fact, If I buy the Mate 9, I can only buy the Pro unless I buy from another EU country. The regular Mate 9 has not been launched in Scandinavia which disappointed many and they said at the time that they had no intentions of bringing it here. Fast forward three weeks and the Pro was announced to launch and the Pro will be the only Mate 9 variant in the Scandinavian market. So I'm guessing that the Pro might only be on the market in China and Scandinavia which makes me question the development for the device :/
It saddens me a bit that the Pro will actually be a step back in some regards compared to the regular variant: no SD card slot and slightly decreased SoC performance (as you mention), fewer color variants (only two colors for this market: gold and grey) - and some would say the fingerprint scanner moving to the front is a downgrade as well. I also saw some disappointment in the AMOLED display not being a 6" (or larger) one; the complaint being they wanted an actual big phone but I don't mind too much personally. I have a 5.2" device now and it already slips out of some of my pockets due to the size, so a 6" behemoth wouldn't help in that department
They probably couldn't source a decent AMOLED display at that size although I'm curious as to how well calibrated the display is. Huawei and other Chinese manufacturers haven't been known for their attention to that kind of detail. Samsung, the Pixel and the OnePlus 3(T) have well calibrated AMOLED displays but the rest of the market seems to neglect that.
Call me guilty, I put my Pixel XL for sale and bought a Mate 9 (second time after the gold M9) with my favorite color Space Grey (no more silly black borders).
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Call me guilty, I put my Pixel XL for sale and bought a Mate 9 (second time after the gold M9) with my favorite color Space Grey (no more silly black borders).
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Congratz! I knew you would come back...
Well, I bit the bullet and pre-ordered the Huawei Mate 9 Pro in Space Grey. So I'll be getting a nice Christmas present.
I just hope development for this device will pick up because it will certainly prolong the life of the device; however it does seem from reviews that it's a great device.
I'm coming from an LG G2 which has been somewhat of an underground success with a fantastic developer community around it, so I doubt any non-Samsung/Nexus/Pixel/OnePlus device can live up to that but hopefully it will be enough
I have the Porsche Design and placed alongside my mate 9 the screen size difference is negligible due to the on screen navigation buttons on the mate 9.

P40 Pro Vs P40 Pro +

Is there really that big a different between those two??
So far I can see there is no big different between the camera ??
999 euro for the pro.
1399 euro for the pro plus.
5 things are different:
The pro+ comes with 256gb extra storage, totalling 512gb. Since neither phones support microsd cards, it might be worth to upgrade for extra storage.
The pro+ comes with a ceramic back, instead of glass. So it wont shatter or break like glass, and can also apprantly be even more scratch resistant, while retaining the smoothness of glass.
The pro+ comes with a extra camera, that does 3x optical zoom.
The pro+ replaces the 5x optical zoom of the pro to a 10x optical zoom camera.
The pro+ comes with a little bit faster wireless charging.
Earlier post suggested that it also comes with 4gb extra ram, totalling at 12gb, this is not the case.
It's really personal preference if you want one of these features. Since the p40 pro and pro+ do not support microsd, i might need the extra storage for the games series and the lot of photo's i take. I'm quite a power user.
The extra zoom will also be quite special and certainly unique in a phone, until a competitor ofcource adds it to their phone as well. But i can see it staying a premium feature at a premium price for the whole of 2020 and first half of 2021.
The ceramic back is also welcome, since i shattered the back glass of 2 phones already while riding a rollercoaster, while i never had this problem with the iphones i owned, but never shattered front displays on any phone. I don't like to use cases. i have good insurance.
I can't care much about the extra wireless charging speed though.
So for me, while it is a extreme price, i will get the pro +. But...only if i see the normal pro thats almost released can properly handle google apps with everything working. Time will tell when users get their hands on the devices.
You can also add an NM card in the second SIM slot. The biggest you get is 256GB. If you want to add the NM but also need two SIM-cards, there is the option of using eSIM. Thirdparty NM just go up to 128GB for about 40€ and Huawei itself produces 256GB for 100€.
I think it isnot worth to pay an extra 400€, if you don't need the camera and the wireless charging with 40W but the extra space.
Just my opinion.
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You can also add an NM card in the second SIM slot. The biggest you get is 256GB. If you want to add the NM but also need two SIM-cards, there is the option of using eSIM. Thirdparty NM just go up to 128GB for about 40€ and Huawei itself produces 256GB for 100€.
I think it isnot worth to pay an extra 400€, if you don't need the camera and the wireless charging with 40W but the extra space.
Just my opinion.
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you need a new reader then as well(unless phone-only usage), and NM cards are double the price of microsd cards, and dont come in higher then 256gb at retail stores at least.
No i'd rather go for 400 euro more for 256gb extra AND then get the other features as well.
When can you buy the p40 pro+?
SmartphoneRAT said:
When can you buy the p40 pro+?
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month of june i heard
I purchased days ago a Mate 30 Pro and it shocked me for the quality of the camera... amazing.
sev7en said:
I purchased days ago a Mate 30 Pro and it shocked me for the quality of the camera... amazing.
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im confused you purchased a mate 30 pro p 40 pro
xnostra said:
im confused you purchased a mate 30 pro p 40 pro
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I think Mate 30 Pro is better for some, less for others... I watched a lot of video and I don't think P40 supersead Mate 30 Pro.
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I think Mate 30 Pro is better for some, less for others... I watched a lot of video and I don't think P40 supersead Mate 30 Pro.
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it did
look here https://www.dxomark.com/category/smartphone-reviews/

What is your favorite Android phone as of now?

Many options out there!
I have my second Xiaomi smartphone now. I've been with this brand for 7 years now. My father and brother also use Xiaomi phones. I am generally satisfied of how they work though I sometimes have connection problems (not sure whether it's me or the phone). Before Xiaomi I had Samsung back in 2012. I guess Samsung nowadays is getting better but I still don't really trust them after that experience
To be honest, for me Android-based phones are the best :highfive:
Well depends on the budget of course, I can name a $1,000 phone but I don't have the money.
I like the LG G7 ThinQ or a V40 they are a good bang for buck. I am tired of glass phones though they break too easy, so I would put it in a case. For the price this phone offer so much.
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What'd be nice is another HTC M8 style phone but more modern hardware and design but still metal back and dual speakers but also all glass screen, put the speakers under the glass somehow make the chin appear smaller.
Android is my favorite...on the OnePlus 8 Pro for now! Cheers
I used to have Redmi 8, enjoyed it a lot. Now I decided to try a Honor 10i and I am just in love with it.
Mate 10 was awesome, I think that was Best 16:9 phone by far.
Now, I agree, Note 20 is so good.
Galaxy Note 20 is the best for me
Sure, if we have an unlimited budget I also will go for the Note 20
Myself I won't spend more than $200 on a phone and no post paid, not getting it from a carrier since I only use very few minutes and mostly just wifi. Like right now my plan is 250 minutes or text a month for free, so I haven't had to spend even $10 on my cell service in at least 3 months Hence why I just buy my phones used and not more than $200 budget, anything more is a waste for me.
But if I didn't have access to a PC with broadband cable internet 24 hours a day it might be different for me.
Also I would always be worrying about my phone if it were that expensive. You can buy a used car or motorcycle for the same price as a Samsung Note 20!
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Galaxy Note 20 is the best for me
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There are some massive mobile phones are below that gives an amazing performance and worth able features for your money. These are my favorites because of their performance and ratings. If you will buy any mobile phone from below, you feel that it is an amazing mobile for your budget. you can exclusively get these from amazon.
1.Redmi 8A Dual (Midnight Grey, 3GB RAM, 32GB Storage) – Dual Cameras & 5,000 mAH Battery) with No Cost EMI/Additional Exchange Offers – 31,279 ratings
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4.Samsung Galaxy M01 (Black, 3GB RAM, 32GB Storage) with No Cost EMI/Additional Exchange Offers – 7,766ratings.
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So far my zenpad tablet has been performing well for a while, minus the reboot issue. Much better performance than my old tablet which was an insignia model... the zpad has 2Gigs of RAM, the old one didnt. Love that RAM
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Samsung Galaxy J10
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no that phone doesn't exist. I have Galaxy J7 pro
not rich
so galaxy s8 is amazing good screen good battery good speed
The Pixel 3 XL, since it's supported by GrapheneOS and should be supported for a few more years. I used to enjoy the Pixel 2, but it's no longer being upgraded by the GrapheneOS team, which sucks, because it's a very capable device.
karthikn030297 said:
There are some massive mobile phones are below that gives an amazing performance and worth able features for your money. These are my favorites because of their performance and ratings. If you will buy any mobile phone from below, you feel that it is an amazing mobile for your budget. you can exclusively get these from amazon.
1.Redmi 8A Dual (Midnight Grey, 3GB RAM, 32GB Storage) – Dual Cameras & 5,000 mAH Battery) with No Cost EMI/Additional Exchange Offers – 31,279 ratings
2.OPPO A5 2020 (Mirror Black, 3GB RAM, 64GB Storage) with No Cost EMI/Additional Exchange Offers – 3,263ratings
3.Redmi 9A (Midnight Black, 3GB Ram, 32GB Storage) with No Cost EMI/Additional Exchange Offers -9,239 ratings.
4.Samsung Galaxy M01 (Black, 3GB RAM, 32GB Storage) with No Cost EMI/Additional Exchange Offers – 7,766ratings.
5.Redmi 9 Prime (Space Blue, 4GB RAM, 64GB Storage)- Full HD+ Display & AI Quad Camera) with No Cost EMI/Additional Exchange Offers – 9,414 ratings.
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Which one is supported by lineage MicroG?
I have Redmi Note 4 and it is working fine.

Is it worth it?

Hi,
So, I was planning to go for the Note 10 plus but it's price has not decreased much even after the launch of the S21 series https://www.samsung.com/in/smartpho...y-note10-plus-aura-glow-256gb-sm-n975fzsdins/ Is the Note 10 lite worth it's price? It is about 20000 inr or $265 usd cheaper than the plus one. I can live with the plastic body (as a case will be used), the lower end camera is fine but the processor and no ois is a big turn off. Also I read somewhere that the note 10 plus is more 5g ready than the note 10 lite meaning the plus one supports more 5g bands. Is it true? Ofcourse a "pure 5g" phone is months away. Any suggestions?
Thanks

Question Best honest places to buy 12 Ultra from EU

As above, any recomendations where to buy a 12 ultra from? I see most sellers on Ali sell ultra with Global version, which is guess is just a rom reflash. Id prefer to buy an original chinese rm and then flash the eu ROM myself.
thanks
Evo400 said:
As above, any recomendations where to buy a 12 ultra from? I see most sellers on Ali sell ultra with Global version, which is guess is just a rom reflash. Id prefer to buy an original chinese rm and then flash the eu ROM myself.
thanks
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On Ali you have the Cn or global choice.
tradingshenzhen.:the price seems lower.
From China (takes 10 days and no extra fees) - Also includes a 5€ coupon ^^
Xiaomi 12S ULTRA - 12GB/256GB - Leica Camera - 120 Hz LTPO
The Xiaomi 12S Ultra is a high-end flagship with Snapdragon 8 Plus Gen 1, 12 GB LPDDR5 RAM, 256 GB UFS 3.1 ROM, 4860 mAh battery with 67W Charge, 50W Wireless Charge, and a 6.73-inch Dolby Vision True Color LTPO 120 Hz display. The triple camera is made in cooperation with Leica and is led by a...
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I've been buying from there for ages and all perfect, you can even email them to send a sealed version (they usually open the box to check if everything is ok and install play store)
I've bought from Wanda mobile for several years without any issues or import duties.
SirTAVARES​Sathelp​What about the warranty?
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SirTAVARES​Sathelp​What about the warranty?
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1 year warranty. you send the device to germany i think where they have the warehouse.
I also have great experience with TradingShenzhen. I also have after sales experience. You can read more about it here. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-40-ultra.4445957/post-87356365 I used the refund to buy the S12 Ultra, which should arrive in about 10-14 days from China. They have the 256 Gb version in stock in Europe, which should arrive in a few days without additional shipping costs. Good luck!
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1 year warranty. you send the device to germany i think where they have the warehouse.
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1 year return to them in China but I can confirm they do honour this and if you use the right route, it doesn't has to cost much more to ship there than it does to Germany now we're not part of EU . Both good service.
Aliexpress to avoid.
In comparison with the 12 pro:
A bigger battery, ip 68 but no 480 Hz sampling frequency, camera less good, 3 bands less, I find it expensive compared to the 12 pro.
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Aliexpress to avoid.
In comparison with the 12 pro:
A bigger battery, ip 68 but no 480 Hz sampling frequency, camera less good, 3 bands less, I find it expensive compared to the 12 pro.
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Also 12S pro is very good phone also with Leica camera that doesnt get much attention
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Also 12S pro is very good phone also with Leica camera that doesnt get much attention
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Battery identical to the 12 pro and it's really the fault of this phone, the autonomy.
Lack too many 4g bands for my region
I would rather go for a Mi 11 ultra.
I bit the bullet today and ordered the 12 S Ultra. I have done some testing and only once I saw band B20 so we'll see. The current demand for 12 Ultras in Europe is huge so selling it back won't be a problem if im not happy with it
I bought it from Quickmobile.ro very nice price, 20% off and QUICK202 is a 3% off voucher.
I paid 6199 RON, which is about 1250 EUR. Waited 7 business days to arrive via courier, right at my door.
I'm waiting for the original case now, bought from giztop
I got mine from tradingshenzen. They even emailed me to say that they have a same spec device that a customer didn't collect, in a distribution center in Germany, and would I accept it instead of a new delivery from China. It arrived the next day. I've seen them recommended on other forums too.
Word of Caution!!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/tradingshenzhen-caution.4495495/

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